The strategy category is just a big joke and the roblox innovation awards in itself is a whole circus, if tsb is gonna win i dont mind atleast we could get something out of it
When the biggest game on roblox (Blox Fruits) gets LESS THAN HALF of the votes that TSB has gotten, something is off. Roblox needs to do something about this, cause even if those votes somehow aren't botted, the promises that the developers of TSB are giving is basically rigging the vote. I have seen people saying that they just voted TSB for KJ, not even because of its so called "strategy". I have heard people say , that in the end, roblox will still pick the winners. I hope that this is true, because TSB does NOT deserve "Best Strategy Game".
TSB is a strategy focused figthing game as it requires a lot of coordiantion and reading players movements at a higher skill level and it belongs in strategy. However, it is NOT the best strategy game. I personally believe that TDS is a much better game at strategy.
@@Maaboopby your logic I can say that tds is a fighting game because you fight zombies Strategy game and a game that has strategy isn't the same shit dawg💀💀💀😭😭😭
has everyone forgotten the fact that the voting hub is a prediction hub where people predict what game is gonna win each category in every single bloxy/inno award thing roblox has decided the winners
Tsb is not an strategy game tsb is an fighting game like what the hell they well put blox fruit on Strategy that make no sense that tsb is saying we are an strategy game cuz there combos...
Honestly Roblox should just remove any games from being nominated if they try to bribe their community to vote for games. Hot example is Dress to Impress & CAC situation
Calling tsb greedy crazy? All because they made a shirt saying vote for them? If tsb game creator was truly greeedy the creator wouldn’t have made two free ugcs with millions of copies..
@@Eurofrostisfr if its a fighting game then its fighting not strategy of course they're physical strategy but TSB should rather anime fighting game cus all the characters and the fight is from JJK and one pouch man
this is all bullshit cause there are games out there that are better than the winners but aren't trying to lure as many kids as possible with paid youtubers and stuff to play some shitty copy and paste anime game
Have you ever played The Strongest Battlegrounds or interacted with the community? I'm sure The Strongest Battlegrounds doesn't need to pay UA-camrs because they average about 100K+ players each day.
@@demongiyu he describes what tsb is in such a bad way its obvious he has never really played the game before, i was just saying that cause the game takes a lot more skill than what he displays it as
@@grandtacosinternational tsb has strategy in it, but it is mostly skill and coordination, it is different from strategy games. dear tsb player, prove me wrong and don't cry if I offended tsb
Tsb didn't deserve to be in the strategy section though, it's legit pressing m1 and pressing 1234, and they are bribing their community for votes when the judges are probably gonna select the actual games that deserve it, like TDS, tsb is not gonna actually win
@@shadow_gaming20098 They modified the original post saying that they'll rush the development of boros, but now it says that they promise good things, but they maybe lied Abt boros
hello, as a player tsb the game requires alot of coordination and strategy in the game at a high skill level in ranked. I wouldn't say its the best strategy game on roblox though. I believe that the "botting" issue could be from other players who want KJ and not from the devs so it could be partially rigged or its somehow legit.
This could be a fair take, if tds wasn't on there, tds is THE strategy game, it requires a lot more thinking, combos are not strategic anymore, if this your point, that combos are strategic, then tds could be called a fighting game. And with that same logic, any fighting game is a "strategy" game
0:18 The strongest battle grounds: 6.2B visits Anime defenders: 900M visits Tower defense simulator: 3B visits a dusty trip: 800M visits In conclusion, it isnt suspiscious at all and your claim that all the games are similarly popular is incorrect. 1:40 The reason why he doesn't show evidence and only makes claims is because he expects that anyone judging him has already played the game before, and anyone whos played TSG would know that it IS a very stragedy based game. You bring up how combos are stragedy, using the basic M'1s as examples. However, with skill you can put the 4 base moves in particular orders that do much more damage. This is STRAGEDY. 2:20 The most stragedy you can use in tower defense games is placing your towers in correct positions, but outside that, thats about it. You are not understanding his logic at all, thats why it isn't making sense to you. 3:30 This is a fair reward, it isn't unfair to motivate your community to vote for you. It isnt "ruining how voting works" as that would be the equivilant of looking at trumps promises to end the ukraine war and going "Well thats unfair and gonna swade the votes" Like, thats how politics works dude. 4:40 It isn't forcing people to vote for the game. If a fan wants TSB to win, then they can help by wearing that shirt. It isn't stupid, but I can see how some people would view it as greedy. 5:30 "There is nothing to confirm that" So theres no evidence of them doing it, and the average person doesn't understand how coding works, so ill shortly sum it up and say that a bot that votes for TSB would be an egrious amount of work. I think if you were smart you would be aware of all the counterpoints, and it would explain why you don't elaborate much in your points. However, I don't think thats the case. In my opinion, you are not fit for Commentary/video essays, you have shown incredible lack of IQ and EQ.
100% agree with all these points. We're talking abt an online vote on a platform for children, ofc it's gonna be popularity contest. If we js look at the average players of tsbg, compared to every other game in the poll, it's obvious that tsbg would win from the very start. That saying, it might've been unfair for it to be in the category in the first place.
Another thing to point out is that these are literally predictions and not actual voting. Roblox has already confirmed in twitter (via RTC) that there will be a jury who will choose who is the winner of the prediction categories. No one actually knows who won, and only voted for who they *think* they will win.
1: It's not about the amount of visits the game has received. By that logic, it would make it a lot more suspicious that TSB has over seven times the votes that TDS earned considering it only has slightly over double the total visits. He also never says anything about the games having a similar popularity, because they all have fluctuating active player bases. You've also ignored the fact that Blox Fruits (The second biggest game on roblox as of now, with 36.3B visits according to your logic.) has only received less than a third of the votes that TSB has. 2: Strategy involves real time thinking, so yes, TSB is somewhat of a strategy game. But being a fighting game gives you that free pass. TSB doesn't give you time to think when you're 2 feet away from the opponent(s), so you try to get out by spamming whatever you can. And I think you glossed over the example that he gave for ''Strategy with a lot of inputs'' was TEKKEN 5, one of the most complex fighting games franchises of all time in terms of inputs. TSB having 4 moves at most is pretty sad when you take into account that the average fighting game has many more. The amount of strategy in TSB is the equivalent to the amount of effort you put into making a ham and cheese sandwich. And quit calling it ''Stragedy'' will you? 3: Clearly, you are not qualified to critique the TD genre as a whole. There is no specific correct position. Close to the path is the de facto method. The real time thinking you have is proportional to the amount of money you have to invest in your limited choice of towers that YOU chose to bring BEFORE the beginning of the game. You even have access to a wide library of pre-made strategies by the community. You need to also take into account that there are abilities in most of TD games. You need to properly time them, whether it boosts your towers, sends out road units or or straight up damages enemies. As well, there are some modifiers that make enemies stronger in TDS, which forces you to change how you need to think. Real strategy involves thinking ahead of time as well, not just current. I can come up with 100 reasons why TDS has more strategy than TSB. 4: Have you even considered the size of that promise? The issue with that award is that it is basically trying to guarantee their win, representing the pinnacle of bribery in the process. And if fans pay for shit that was sold by the devs and only serves to convince people and nothing else, that is also greed from the part of the devs. Politics are not the same as Roblox Innovation Awards, you're sending a false signal for comparison. 5: He never makes any claims of the shirt forcing people to vote for the game. Again, you're sending a false signal. For the 3rd time. 6: Literally the whole point of that section he addressed was ''They're being accused of this, but there isn't enough proof to confirm it.'' He's talking about a possibility, not a probability. 7: So the point of this whole stupid comment was to defend your opinion by insulting him? You have demonstrated wrath at its finest, just to defend a fighting game based on anime. If you had anything other than hatred on your mind while writing a whole ass essay, you would have avoided calling him names and would have developed actual arguments.
They bribed their community with KJ which then caused the players to make bots and vote for SBG. Then they DIDN'T give KJ saying it would be given at the end of the the votes and KJ would be in the game longer for each category they win. They edited the discord message that bribed their community to NOT include KJ AFTER THEY WON The reason its weird for SBG to have 1.5m vote is a huge chunk of the community doesnt vote in these types of events always been like that. What the admins did were scummy and not fair for other games. The TDS community never got toxic about it but was just dissapointed that roblox would allow this
1.5m is NOT surprising. the game barely drops below 100k concurrent on most days. 100k concurrent. also why aren't we talking about blox fruits vs deepwoken? a game of skill or a game of pressing z,x,c,v and then spending 5k robux on a "perm fruit"
Brookhaven and Blox Fruits (the 2 biggest games on the platform) don't get remotely close to half of those votes. Even if you combine the votes given for both, you're still around 500k votes away.
Xeno has never played tab and wants to yap cuz he glazes TDS XD although tds was easily the best strategy game lying that it isn't cuz you glaze tds is sad edit: for the dudes who are going to say ive never played tds or something i have im level 300 on the game my win ratio is 3.5 tsb is a fucking strategy game but your too blind to see that but tds shouldve won and also the votes dont decide what game wins its roblox and youir predictions edit: i am aware tsb shouldnt have won and i think tds should have so quit tryna argue in the comments
1: What the heck is TAB? 2: What the heck do you mean by glazing? 3: The entire video revolves around him saying why TDS got robbed from winning best strategy. He easily thinks TDS was the best strategy game on there. Did you even watch the video my guy?
@@EurofrostisfrGlazing is slang for overly complimenting somebody or overly praising or hyping up another person to such an extent that it makes the person who is praising look inferior. It can also be used when a person simply over compliments another person for the sake of appreciation or other benefits from that person.
ua-cam.com/video/UlvTFiSpTDo/v-deo.html bruh the innovation/bloxy awards have always been a popularity contest that's how all forms of voting are its about who or what people like more that's the point of a vote its to choose what the most people like.
The strategy category is just a big joke and the roblox innovation awards in itself is a whole circus, if tsb is gonna win i dont mind atleast we could get something out of it
tsb devs will do work if they win 😱
Als they are prediction not awards
none of the games are strategy. where the fuck is noobs in combat?
@@ramenslug1383 They actually will work on their game instead of making a cashgrab gamepass? Heck no.
And the real strategy game of Roblox named
"Noobs in combat"
Won't even be nominated
When the biggest game on roblox (Blox Fruits) gets LESS THAN HALF of the votes that TSB has gotten, something is off.
Roblox needs to do something about this, cause even if those votes somehow aren't botted, the promises that the developers of TSB are giving is basically rigging the vote. I have seen people saying that they just voted TSB for KJ, not even because of its so called "strategy".
I have heard people say , that in the end, roblox will still pick the winners. I hope that this is true, because TSB does NOT deserve "Best Strategy Game".
100% agree
TSB is a strategy focused figthing game as it requires a lot of coordiantion and reading players movements at a higher skill level and it belongs in strategy. However, it is NOT the best strategy game. I personally believe that TDS is a much better game at strategy.
Look bro respect our opinions and your opinion could be somewhat valid
@@Maaboopby your logic I can say that tds is a fighting game because you fight zombies
Strategy game and a game that has strategy isn't the same shit dawg💀💀💀😭😭😭
@@Maaboop By your filthy logic phantom force is also strategy
watch kj get added then everyone will be mad beacuse it isnt cool anymore
"and when everyones super, no one will be"
syndrome
yup
😂
you do realize they said he will be available for a limited time if they win, right?
@@T_M.EI’m willing to bet kids will get mad at it not being permanent
tsb devs be greedy, mods, GP them.
GOT TOO GREEDY🤑🤑🤑💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑🤑
NO GOLDEN PRESENT ISNT ENOUGH GIVE THEM THE PLATINUM PRESENT AT THAT POINT
has everyone forgotten the fact that the voting hub is a prediction hub where people predict what game is gonna win each category in every single bloxy/inno award thing roblox has decided the winners
The Strongest battlegrounds just turned their community to the shittest battlegrounds
Tsb is not an strategy game tsb is an fighting game like what the hell they well put blox fruit on Strategy that make no sense that tsb is saying we are an strategy game cuz there combos...
anime defender is full of alts in game, alts make up for more than half of their player base
Honestly Roblox should just remove any games from being nominated if they try to bribe their community to vote for games. Hot example is Dress to Impress & CAC situation
Btw they also ban you from their server if you try to point out that they bot their votes :)
Bit too late for that one
That 1 dislike: Tsb kid
Calling tsb greedy crazy? All because they made a shirt saying vote for them? If tsb game creator was truly greeedy the creator wouldn’t have made two free ugcs with millions of copies..
ok why the strongest battleground is in strategy, it must be in fighting category
It's in both of those categories AND People's choice :/
@@Eurofrostisfr ok i don't know why the fuck its in the strategy game if its a fighting game
also they have scammed by two upcoming characters
Fighting games are another way of calling them Physical Strategy games, which is just cheap.
@@Eurofrostisfr if its a fighting game then its fighting not strategy of course they're physical strategy but TSB should rather anime fighting game cus all the characters and the fight is from JJK and one pouch man
this is all bullshit cause there are games out there that are better than the winners but aren't trying to lure as many kids as possible with paid youtubers and stuff to play some shitty copy and paste anime game
Have you ever played The Strongest Battlegrounds or interacted with the community? I'm sure The Strongest Battlegrounds doesn't need to pay UA-camrs because they average about 100K+ players each day.
it seems you clearly have never played tsb before 💀💀 (but i agree with ur point)
He's right?
Problem with that for not playing the greediest battleground ?
@@demongiyu he describes what tsb is in such a bad way its obvious he has never really played the game before, i was just saying that cause the game takes a lot more skill than what he displays it as
@@grandtacosinternational tsb has strategy in it, but it is mostly skill and coordination, it is different from strategy games. dear tsb player, prove me wrong and don't cry if I offended tsb
@@demongiyu u still have to strategize like adapting to their moves and figuring out their patterns and attack style
@@grandtacosinternational Yes, for the second time it has strategy in it, but it's not a STRATEGY GAME.
turn up the music i cant hear u
the tsb should delete game, NOW
and give tds, all the voting u have
cuz what are u here for?
to worship me? DELETE YOU'RESELF
⛈⛈
tds community when there is a slight inconvenience:
(tower skin vs new perm character + temp admin character)
"and when everyones super, no one will be" -syndrome
yea, one's extremely desperate for the votes and the other one isn't
Tsb didn't deserve to be in the strategy section though, it's legit pressing m1 and pressing 1234, and they are bribing their community for votes when the judges are probably gonna select the actual games that deserve it, like TDS, tsb is not gonna actually win
Did he forget that they will work faster on boris( a char that people wanted). This mean that they will do their job......
or its that they will be more motivated??
i think they changed it to "we're work on good updates" or something like that
@@shadow_gaming20098 They modified the original post saying that they'll rush the development of boros, but now it says that they promise good things, but they maybe lied Abt boros
@@demongiyu yea thats what i heard
holy F! 1.5 million?
tsbg is somewhat of a strategy game✅
tsbg is the BEST strategy game❌❌❌❌
hello, as a player tsb the game requires alot of coordination and strategy in the game at a high skill level in ranked. I wouldn't say its the best strategy game on roblox though. I believe that the "botting" issue could be from other players who want KJ and not from the devs so it could be partially rigged or its somehow legit.
besides, the roblox innovation/bloxy awards are popularity contests since forever
This could be a fair take, if tds wasn't on there, tds is THE strategy game, it requires a lot more thinking, combos are not strategic anymore, if this your point, that combos are strategic, then tds could be called a fighting game. And with that same logic, any fighting game is a "strategy" game
tds deserves the win for that category either way, whether tsb has strategy or not
0:18
The strongest battle grounds: 6.2B visits
Anime defenders: 900M visits
Tower defense simulator: 3B visits
a dusty trip: 800M visits
In conclusion, it isnt suspiscious at all and your claim that all the games are similarly popular is incorrect.
1:40 The reason why he doesn't show evidence and only makes claims is because he expects that anyone judging him has already played the game before, and anyone whos played TSG would know that it IS a very stragedy based game. You bring up how combos are stragedy, using the basic M'1s as examples. However, with skill you can put the 4 base moves in particular orders that do much more damage. This is STRAGEDY.
2:20 The most stragedy you can use in tower defense games is placing your towers in correct positions, but outside that, thats about it. You are not understanding his logic at all, thats why it isn't making sense to you.
3:30 This is a fair reward, it isn't unfair to motivate your community to vote for you. It isnt "ruining how voting works" as that would be the equivilant of looking at trumps promises to end the ukraine war and going "Well thats unfair and gonna swade the votes" Like, thats how politics works dude.
4:40 It isn't forcing people to vote for the game. If a fan wants TSB to win, then they can help by wearing that shirt. It isn't stupid, but I can see how some people would view it as greedy.
5:30 "There is nothing to confirm that" So theres no evidence of them doing it, and the average person doesn't understand how coding works, so ill shortly sum it up and say that a bot that votes for TSB would be an egrious amount of work.
I think if you were smart you would be aware of all the counterpoints, and it would explain why you don't elaborate much in your points. However, I don't think thats the case. In my opinion, you are not fit for Commentary/video essays, you have shown incredible lack of IQ and EQ.
100% agree with all these points. We're talking abt an online vote on a platform for children, ofc it's gonna be popularity contest. If we js look at the average players of tsbg, compared to every other game in the poll, it's obvious that tsbg would win from the very start. That saying, it might've been unfair for it to be in the category in the first place.
Honestly even though even if TSB didnt bot votes its just highly suspicous that in the first 10 minutes that TSB have over 100k votes
Another thing to point out is that these are literally predictions and not actual voting. Roblox has already confirmed in twitter (via RTC) that there will be a jury who will choose who is the winner of the prediction categories. No one actually knows who won, and only voted for who they *think* they will win.
1: It's not about the amount of visits the game has received. By that logic, it would make it a lot more suspicious that TSB has over seven times the votes that TDS earned considering it only has slightly over double the total visits. He also never says anything about the games having a similar popularity, because they all have fluctuating active player bases. You've also ignored the fact that Blox Fruits (The second biggest game on roblox as of now, with 36.3B visits according to your logic.) has only received less than a third of the votes that TSB has.
2: Strategy involves real time thinking, so yes, TSB is somewhat of a strategy game. But being a fighting game gives you that free pass. TSB doesn't give you time to think when you're 2 feet away from the opponent(s), so you try to get out by spamming whatever you can. And I think you glossed over the example that he gave for ''Strategy with a lot of inputs'' was TEKKEN 5, one of the most complex fighting games franchises of all time in terms of inputs. TSB having 4 moves at most is pretty sad when you take into account that the average fighting game has many more. The amount of strategy in TSB is the equivalent to the amount of effort you put into making a ham and cheese sandwich. And quit calling it ''Stragedy'' will you?
3: Clearly, you are not qualified to critique the TD genre as a whole. There is no specific correct position. Close to the path is the de facto method. The real time thinking you have is proportional to the amount of money you have to invest in your limited choice of towers that YOU chose to bring BEFORE the beginning of the game. You even have access to a wide library of pre-made strategies by the community. You need to also take into account that there are abilities in most of TD games. You need to properly time them, whether it boosts your towers, sends out road units or or straight up damages enemies. As well, there are some modifiers that make enemies stronger in TDS, which forces you to change how you need to think. Real strategy involves thinking ahead of time as well, not just current. I can come up with 100 reasons why TDS has more strategy than TSB.
4: Have you even considered the size of that promise? The issue with that award is that it is basically trying to guarantee their win, representing the pinnacle of bribery in the process. And if fans pay for shit that was sold by the devs and only serves to convince people and nothing else, that is also greed from the part of the devs. Politics are not the same as Roblox Innovation Awards, you're sending a false signal for comparison.
5: He never makes any claims of the shirt forcing people to vote for the game. Again, you're sending a false signal. For the 3rd time.
6: Literally the whole point of that section he addressed was ''They're being accused of this, but there isn't enough proof to confirm it.'' He's talking about a possibility, not a probability.
7: So the point of this whole stupid comment was to defend your opinion by insulting him? You have demonstrated wrath at its finest, just to defend a fighting game based on anime. If you had anything other than hatred on your mind while writing a whole ass essay, you would have avoided calling him names and would have developed actual arguments.
ok nerd
In my opinion they sbg should be disqualified
the game has 200-500k average active players why are we suprised it has 1.5 mil?
They bribed their community with KJ which then caused the players to make bots and vote for SBG. Then they DIDN'T give KJ saying it would be given at the end of the the votes and KJ would be in the game longer for each category they win. They edited the discord message that bribed their community to NOT include KJ AFTER THEY WON
The reason its weird for SBG to have 1.5m vote is a huge chunk of the community doesnt vote in these types of events always been like that. What the admins did were scummy and not fair for other games.
The TDS community never got toxic about it but was just dissapointed that roblox would allow this
Is surprising when the most popular game on Roblox (blox fruits) has so much less votes than TSB, don't you see smth wrong with that??
Not even Brookhaven (the biggest game on roblox) has half of those votes.
1.5m is NOT surprising. the game barely drops below 100k concurrent on most days. 100k concurrent. also why aren't we talking about blox fruits vs deepwoken? a game of skill or a game of pressing z,x,c,v and then spending 5k robux on a "perm fruit"
did you watch this video with your eyes and ears closed
1.5m is surprising when the game is so much less popular than bloxfruits and has way more votes which does not make sense 💀
Brookhaven and Blox Fruits (the 2 biggest games on the platform) don't get remotely close to half of those votes. Even if you combine the votes given for both, you're still around 500k votes away.
@@Eurofrostisfr the fans prob botted it for a something that (from what i know) isnt available in public
Fair point, but a lot of kids want KJ.
Xeno has never played tab and wants to yap cuz he glazes TDS XD although tds was easily the best strategy game lying that it isn't cuz you glaze tds is sad
edit: for the dudes who are going to say ive never played tds or something i have im level 300 on the game my win ratio is 3.5 tsb is a fucking strategy game but your too blind to see that but tds shouldve won and also the votes dont decide what game wins its roblox and youir predictions
edit: i am aware tsb shouldnt have won and i think tds should have so quit tryna argue in the comments
1: What the heck is TAB?
2: What the heck do you mean by glazing?
3: The entire video revolves around him saying why TDS got robbed from winning best strategy. He easily thinks TDS was the best strategy game on there. Did you even watch the video my guy?
I have almost 12,000 kills on TSB, and I can confidently say that TSB is a FIGHTING game, not a STRATEGY game.
@@EurofrostisfrGlazing is slang for overly complimenting somebody or overly praising or hyping up another person to such an extent that it makes the person who is praising look inferior. It can also be used when a person simply over compliments another person for the sake of appreciation or other benefits from that person.
shut up, i don't even think tsb deserves to be in best strategy, + tsb is bribing
@@Eurofrostisfr yes i did and hes saying tsb isnt strategy when it is
ua-cam.com/video/UlvTFiSpTDo/v-deo.html bruh the innovation/bloxy awards have always been a popularity contest that's how all forms of voting are its about who or what people like more that's the point of a vote its to choose what the most people like.