Weird Places: Devil's Kettle Falls

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  • A waterfall that seems to just disappear into the ground sounds pretty unbelievable, but scientists are still bewildered by the mysteries of Devil's Kettle Falls.
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  • @Wazgrel
    @Wazgrel 8 років тому +1178

    Great place to dispose of a body. Thanks SciShow!

    • @caelvanir8557
      @caelvanir8557 8 років тому +15

      It's quite useful.

    • @King-wb7fq
      @King-wb7fq 8 років тому +5

      +Konstantine Rymaruk where is it location

    • @Deven_McKee
      @Deven_McKee 8 років тому +218

      +Konstantine Rymaruk Imagine if someone threw a body into the falls and later saw on the news that that same body appeared floating in Lake Superior. They'd be the only person in the world to know exactly where Devil's Kettle Falls flows into, but they'd never be able to tell anyone.

    • @alexgonzalez514
      @alexgonzalez514 8 років тому +33

      Drop my new mixtape
      Then it will explode
      Then u know where it leads to

    • @horrorkesh
      @horrorkesh 8 років тому +8

      +Konstantine Rymaruk LOL i can picture a body head first sticking out of that hole

  • @JasonKlein97
    @JasonKlein97 8 років тому +326

    Everyone is coming up with all of these fancy shmancy ways to figure out.... here, hold my beer. I'm goin diving!

    • @disherace8099
      @disherace8099 8 років тому +6

      I'm coming with

    • @flubs2298
      @flubs2298 8 років тому +43

      Question:
      I drank the beer

    • @crazysquirrel879
      @crazysquirrel879 8 років тому +12

      Don't forget a water proof camera and...don't die we don't want to see two dead body's and a camera floating around somewhere in a lake weeks later

    • @PikaPetey
      @PikaPetey 8 років тому +4

      lol! go dude go!!

    • @flubs2298
      @flubs2298 8 років тому +2

      crazysquirrel TWO BODIES?!?!?

  • @Detschizm
    @Detschizm 8 років тому +81

    I would just send a whole ton of fish down there with trackers on them. They won't likely get stuck... can breath underwater and will try everything they can do to get out.

    • @SlyPearTree
      @SlyPearTree 8 років тому +3

      +Detschizm
      I was thinking about sending in a wired control submarine/probe but I think your idea is great.

    • @iSirButters
      @iSirButters 8 років тому +1

      +Detschizm
      Yeah your idea is better. I was thinking sending a GPS device but that would get stuck somewhere.

    • @Lithobrake0
      @Lithobrake0 8 років тому +2

      +iSirButters you could just send a whole bunch of gps devices

    • @KingYoite
      @KingYoite 8 років тому

      +fucduck Can you take your opinions and go home please? Nobody likes negativity on the internet, and you're making it worse. Thanks.

    • @jonathanescobar6482
      @jonathanescobar6482 8 років тому +1

      +fucduck You're right, the rest need to go back to school.

  • @Master_Therion
    @Master_Therion 8 років тому +171

    OBVIOUSLY, the water from Devil's Kettle Falls goes into making Satan's tea... duh.

    • @tiggerbiggo
      @tiggerbiggo 4 роки тому

      Of course the devil would make cold tea, this explanation satisfies me :P

    • @klikitzsmith8416
      @klikitzsmith8416 4 роки тому +1

      @@tiggerbiggo Well he needs to cool down every now and then

    • @espasol9395
      @espasol9395 3 роки тому

      @NotDarkWolf you right😂😂

    • @quietcorner293
      @quietcorner293 3 роки тому

      Green or Earl Grey?

  • @YoungTheFish
    @YoungTheFish 8 років тому +253

    It's a glitch in the matrix.

    • @phlimy
      @phlimy 8 років тому +1

      Exactly, just a regular glitch. Happens all the time

    • @jackofknives3592
      @jackofknives3592 8 років тому +4

      +Phlimy aren't there any updates on that yet? there has to be a bugfix.

    • @adrianmatuszewski8999
      @adrianmatuszewski8999 8 років тому +4

      +Jack of Knives Developer says it will be out soon™ in the next patch along with rapture and world hunger bugfix.

    • @sparkysjoint1616
      @sparkysjoint1616 8 років тому +1

      I am still waiting for that alien download.

    • @jackofknives3592
      @jackofknives3592 8 років тому +2

      +Adrian Matuszewski
      maybe for the meantime we can abuse this glitch. this open world game needs to have mods. i want to replace everyone's skins into happy tree friends characters. i bet the world hunger patch would be too large for my remaining storage :(

  • @BenjiSun
    @BenjiSun 8 років тому +39

    SciShow needs a video teaching people about how radio waves don't work so well through several feet of rock, nevermind several hundreds of feet of rock. even NOAA's tethered ROVs max out at around 4km.

    • @junopresken9940
      @junopresken9940 8 років тому +4

      You could at least find out where it empties into the lake.

    • @BenjiSun
      @BenjiSun 8 років тому +1

      +Jacob Presken possibly. i wonder if they've done any cave mapping yet because the way SciShow reports it, it seems no one's done much other than dyes and ping pong balls. no laser mapping, no LIDAR, no SONAR, ...

    • @TheJaredtheJaredlong
      @TheJaredtheJaredlong 8 років тому +1

      +Benji Sun Those cost money, and nobody benefits from knowing where it drains. In fact, I'm sure the park benefits from keeping it a mystery and getting extra tourism.

    • @BenjiSun
      @BenjiSun 8 років тому +1

      TheJaredtheJaredlong Jacob seems to care where it empties, go talk to him. i care more about SciShow educating the comment section on how GPS doesn't really do well penetrating rock or concrete.

    • @TheJaredtheJaredlong
      @TheJaredtheJaredlong 8 років тому +1

      Benji Sun It's not a matter of "caring" it's about a financial return on investment.

  • @Sammie1053
    @Sammie1053 8 років тому +17

    If the colored dye plan didn't work, pretty much nothing short of extremely powerful ground penetrating radar will work.
    To give some perspective here, there's a river like this in Oregon (I don't remember what river specifically) that geologists knew went underground for some distance before resurfacing further down. They couldn't send a camera or sensor in (the rock functioned as a sort of porous mesh the water passed through; any solid objects would just get stuck) so to determine how long it takes for water to traverse the underground portion of the river, they dumped a blue dye into the river that was the right density, viscosity, etc. to flow unobstructed through the river, pass through porous rock, and form visible blobs on its way out.
    The dye didn't resurface for ten years.

    • @lavish_1717
      @lavish_1717 5 років тому +2

      Sammie1053
      That's scary

  • @MarcusfotosDe
    @MarcusfotosDe 8 років тому +58

    We need a scishow crowdfunding to build a thing that has a camera, gps and transmitter then trow it in there, wait for it to come up somewhere, transmit its location and see were it went!

  • @Niker107
    @Niker107 8 років тому +285

    Isn't it possible to send something like a tiny robot/drone down there?

    • @RandomGuy666100
      @RandomGuy666100 8 років тому +21

      +Niker107 Signals don't go through solid matter well, meaning it wouldn't be able to be controlled. A GPS would likely work to find out where it's going though, as long as it doesn't get stuck.

    • @BrandEver117
      @BrandEver117 8 років тому +19

      +RandomGuy Have it hooked up to a cable...?

    • @RandomGuy666100
      @RandomGuy666100 8 років тому +26

      Brandon S The cable would probably need to be really strong due to sharp rocks, and the cable might need to be many kilometers long in the worst case since we have no idea how long it is.

    • @TheIcyhydra
      @TheIcyhydra 8 років тому +4

      +RandomGuy i guess a 2 KM fiber optic cable would be too much to invest in... i mean what would you possibly do with the cable after!?

    • @UnproductiveSunbeam
      @UnproductiveSunbeam 8 років тому +2

      +Brandon S or just make it wireless? Granted rocks would make it difficult for the signal but with a strong enough transmitter and delicate enough reciever I don't see why not

  • @kgmotte2363
    @kgmotte2363 8 років тому +2

    it's been a long time since the last "weird places", was beginning to wonder if you guys were ever gonna make an other, Glad you did, love these episodes!

  • @Bauks
    @Bauks 8 років тому +12

    I walk past this every hiking season ...Love it ...

  • @isaac10231
    @isaac10231 8 років тому +112

    imagine how many bodies are in there.

    • @gro_skunk
      @gro_skunk 8 років тому +73

      I've dropped two or three down there myself.

    • @solokiwidestroyer
      @solokiwidestroyer 8 років тому +16

      imagine how many the cia dropped down there

    • @Okayand33
      @Okayand33 8 років тому +2

      +isaac10231 No I cant because i am not at the least a sociopath

    • @jasonvanw
      @jasonvanw 8 років тому +1

      +isaac10231 You down there Jimmy?

    • @Ariranhaa
      @Ariranhaa 8 років тому +1

      +isaac10231 It's not that big of a whole, so, unless you're talking about mice bodies or bird bodies, there's not that much inside. Sorry to end up with the speculation.

  • @Che8t
    @Che8t 8 років тому +90

    /gamemode 3 that shit

  • @stiimuli
    @stiimuli 8 років тому +39

    Somewhere in China they marvel at a water spring that seems to flow from nowhere.
    Problem solved.
    You're welcome.

    • @minnarewers3573
      @minnarewers3573 7 років тому

      stiimuli you have a point. It might be possible that thats where the water from the devils kettle resurface

  • @Shwee113
    @Shwee113 8 років тому +18

    Yes talk about cool things in my state. Inflate my ego. Minnesota is amazing.

    • @SOCOM955555
      @SOCOM955555 8 років тому +2

      +Jsuis14 Texas, the end. I win the bigger internet dick contest.

    • @The-Tech-Man
      @The-Tech-Man 8 років тому

      +SOCOM95 Tennessee is pretty awesome too.

    • @SOCOM955555
      @SOCOM955555 8 років тому

      ***** Damn Alaska and their taking Texas' rightful place as most badass state. You win.

    • @keenanirwin6702
      @keenanirwin6702 8 років тому +1

      I live in Minnesota and I can confirm that minnesotans have huge egos.

    • @The-Tech-Man
      @The-Tech-Man 8 років тому +1

      +keenan irwin I'm from Minnesota and grew up there, can confirm your statement.

  • @PinchOfLuck
    @PinchOfLuck 8 років тому +234

    Simply redirect it to the right and go exploring.
    Easy.

    • @BlazingLightSword
      @BlazingLightSword 8 років тому +7

      +Robert Ra
      Yes, this! ^
      No silly robots or waterproof cameras, just divert the water and actually explore it

    • @luc1ferous
      @luc1ferous 8 років тому +51

      +Chris C What if the flow of water is providing water to a unique ecology?

    • @PinchOfLuck
      @PinchOfLuck 8 років тому +11

      Alien base and underworld await.
      It is near that lake.

    • @PinchOfLuck
      @PinchOfLuck 8 років тому +2

      Shane Firth
      It won't kill anything as the hole will not be dried out completely.

    • @luc1ferous
      @luc1ferous 8 років тому +27

      That's assuming any organisms down there don't require flowing water, or to be submerged to live. Any fish would most likely suffocate without the flow.

  • @docopoper
    @docopoper 8 років тому +113

    Why don't people just noclip into the ground and take a look at the back of the mesh?

    • @RainbowPowerRangerX
      @RainbowPowerRangerX 8 років тому +2

      +docopoper You kid, but is there any reason we can't just drop a camera in there and see where it goes?

    • @Cynic667
      @Cynic667 8 років тому

      +SelfAwarePedant I guess when we come up with such an idea, many before did. Problem: more than likely you won't get any signals from a camera deep underground and a recording camera doesn't do you any good when you just don't have any clue where that river arm resurfaces...if at all.

    • @AGFuzzyPancake
      @AGFuzzyPancake 8 років тому +9

      +docopoper *Looks at keyboard
      *~*
      *noclip*
      *'Enter' key*
      Does the real world not use the Source engine?

    • @docopoper
      @docopoper 8 років тому +2

      AGFuzzyPancake Nah, the real world is written in COBOL.

    • @Aiijuin
      @Aiijuin 6 років тому

      IDSPISPOPD

  • @packbadge
    @packbadge 8 років тому +11

    This has been fascinating me for quite a few years now. I really hope that they can figure the mystery out in my lifetime.

    • @shiny_x3
      @shiny_x3 5 років тому +2

      they did. motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/594byq/where-the-devils-kettle-waterfall-to-nowhere-really-goes

  • @balloonatic1215
    @balloonatic1215 8 років тому +33

    There is such thing as a "sinking stream," in which a stream flows directly into a groundwater aquifer through a fracture in the rock (or a sinkhole, if you have that limestone).
    I'm just entering the geology field, so I don't know enough to provide a more specific theory, but I think it would be a possibility

    • @AuRelixRa
      @AuRelixRa 8 років тому +3

      +Balloonatic121 That's interesting! I've heard a little bit about these falls before but never heard that theory (I'm just an undergrad myself). Should provide some interesting reading either way!

    • @wakeupandsmellthecoffee1626
      @wakeupandsmellthecoffee1626 8 років тому +2

      Yeah- like if there was some sort of an earthquake that left the rock moved enough in that spot to create a gap. But that would have to be on a major fault line for that to happen. What about a meteor creating a hole?

    • @AuRelixRa
      @AuRelixRa 8 років тому +3

      wakeupand smellthecoffee I'm not sure an impact crater would be deep enough to account for that sort of a hole. In order to be that deep it'd probably have to have a much bigger circumference than it does

    • @placeholderforfuturehandle
      @placeholderforfuturehandle 8 років тому +1

      Why don't we just toss fizz down there and see where he goes

  • @alphis7431
    @alphis7431 8 років тому +48

    Why don't they take all the water and PUSH IT somewhere else!!!!

  • @luc1ferous
    @luc1ferous 8 років тому +162

    Send a GPS tracker down there encased in a shock absorbing ball, monitor for the signal re-emerging.

    • @luc1ferous
      @luc1ferous 8 років тому +11

      illyounotme I've always wondered why people don't get that you need an opening for a satellite to spot you... Oh well.

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 8 років тому

      +Shane Firth (Red Potion) That was what I thought as well.

    • @andrewpalim1978
      @andrewpalim1978 8 років тому

      exactly what I was thinking!

    • @AngelousSpike
      @AngelousSpike 8 років тому +7

      +illyounotme well it has to pop up somewhere so then u have a start point and an end point

    • @Ngamotu83
      @Ngamotu83 8 років тому +1

      +Shane Firth (Red Potion) That's roughly what I was thinking. Although, admittedly I didn't know that line of sight was necessary for GPS until I read the first reply.

  • @HB-yv5os
    @HB-yv5os 8 років тому +123

    This may seem a bit stupid, but why does no one just dam the river on the Eastern side, and then go into the cave?

    • @iRecordRandomVids
      @iRecordRandomVids 8 років тому +3

      This comment is great xD

    • @enigma647
      @enigma647 8 років тому +5

      +Bambii just redirect western one to eastern and see if water level goes down. if it does get in there

    • @_Niels__
      @_Niels__ 8 років тому +4

      +Bambii best idea ever :D

    • @sephkurai
      @sephkurai 8 років тому +25

      +Bambii People always worry about altering nature especially rivers. Who knows what kind of damage all that extra water diverted to the east side could do. The west side is the side that goes into the kettle.

    • @tron-8140
      @tron-8140 8 років тому +3

      +Bambii This is the simplest and easiest solution.

  • @PoorManMods
    @PoorManMods 8 років тому +72

    how about a drone submarine with a camera?

    • @cilvrado
      @cilvrado 8 років тому +7

      +Poor Man Mods and a GPS transmitter.

    • @Cryten0
      @Cryten0 8 років тому +7

      +Poor Man Mods Doubtful a signal would get far through solid rock. Thats one expensive ping pong ball you would send down the tube.

    • @drink15
      @drink15 8 років тому

      +Poor Man Mods Submarines are way to big and heavy to move all the way to a water fall.

    • @jpmac098
      @jpmac098 8 років тому +18

      +Cryten0 I think people are saying if the water ever resurfaced, the gps would detect where the object came out at. Truth is, it probably wouldn't be difficult at all to figure out where the water goes. It's not hard to make a mile or 2 of steel cable and attach a small camera to the end. Really, no one capable has cared enough to figure it out, that's the only reason why no one knows where it goes.

    • @Darxide23
      @Darxide23 8 років тому

      +Poor Man Mods Depends on how deep it goes. Too deep and signal won't make it up through all the rock. If the water exits the ground somewhere you can maybe find out where this way, but that's about it.

  • @mimimarcus
    @mimimarcus 8 років тому +6

    1. Buy a GoPro, LED lights, and a big clear plastic ball
    2. Anchor the LED GoPro in a clear plastic ball so that it doesn't bounce around
    3. Seal the ball
    4. Enjoy the ride
    5. ???
    6. Profits?

  • @darkwoodmovies
    @darkwoodmovies 8 років тому +45

    Throw a small floating waterproof beacon in there with GPS. When it pings you'll know where it came out.

    • @Mathkinz
      @Mathkinz 8 років тому +5

      that's what I was thinking

    • @gro_skunk
      @gro_skunk 8 років тому +1

      what if it never comes out?

    • @Horstroad
      @Horstroad 8 років тому +6

      +darkwoodmovies First problem is that GPS does not work underground. You need direct line of sight to at least 4 GPS satellites. Secondly a floating device would get stuck at the first underground air pocket and will never see daylight again

    • @RunItsTheCat
      @RunItsTheCat 8 років тому

      +darkwoodmovies It's hard because water can absorb much of the electromagnetic radiation of radio waves, like the way they absorb them in microwave ovens (and the Very-Low Freq Radio used in Submarines require large space). This is also why ships and submarines use SONAR for underwater operations.

    • @getefix3
      @getefix3 8 років тому +1

      +RunItsTheCat he means look out for it when it leaves the river, problem is - you might never get it back - would sonar work?

  • @JohnnyHikesSW
    @JohnnyHikesSW 8 років тому +5

    That area of Minnesota is really gorgeous btw

  • @tron-8140
    @tron-8140 8 років тому +48

    Scishow episode idea: How does GPS work?
    From looking at the comment section its clear that a high percentage of people have no idea.

    • @phlexy
      @phlexy 8 років тому

      +illyounotme Alright, arent there any devices that can record a path based on acceleration? I think ive seen that somwehere.

    • @Matt19634
      @Matt19634 8 років тому +2

      SciShow Episode Idea: make people realize that the GPS might surface somewhere.
      Crazy idea, I know.

    • @Sauvenil
      @Sauvenil 8 років тому

      +Prescription Cocaine I think people have this crazy idea that it surfaces.

    • @ChrisConnett
      @ChrisConnett 5 років тому +1

      @@phlexy This is called 'dead reckoning'. The problem is that the map you get is extremely sensitive to even the slightest errors in the accelerometers.

    • @phlexy
      @phlexy 5 років тому

      That was 3 years ago, im getting older...

  • @jappperon7012
    @jappperon7012 8 років тому +2

    I am actually working on a probe design that will help map and explore the "unknown" side of the devils kettle. so glad to see a video on it from you.

  • @JorneDeSmedt
    @JorneDeSmedt 8 років тому +56

    So... Is the kettle big enough to send some sort of robot with a camera through?

    • @RandomGuy666100
      @RandomGuy666100 8 років тому +2

      +TheRexDark A robot probably wouldn't work since it'd be almost impossible for signals to reach it most likely.

    • @theflyingsquirrel4467
      @theflyingsquirrel4467 8 років тому

      Probably been there before

    • @AntimatePcCustom
      @AntimatePcCustom 8 років тому +2

      +RandomGuy it's called a cable :P

    • @Frykin
      @Frykin 8 років тому +1

      +RandomGuy they have tethered robots that can reach the bottom of the ocean. this wouldn't be any different.

    • @RandomGuy666100
      @RandomGuy666100 8 років тому +1

      ugenemcbean1 Yeah, but that's also ignoring the fact that the water flow is almost certain to suck at some parts, meaning it's likely to get stuck, and we can't give commands to the robot since the signal probably wouldn't reach it.

  • @disherace8099
    @disherace8099 8 років тому +76

    Was Devils kettle boiled for safety?

    • @seabb
      @seabb 8 років тому +16

      The Beasts are taking over.

    • @aligatorWINGS
      @aligatorWINGS 8 років тому +1

      +Brayden Nelson ahh ! GMM

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 8 років тому

      +Brayden Nelson Boiling won't help, it has too much lead in it.

    • @bbekah
      @bbekah 8 років тому

      YES

    • @angolin9352
      @angolin9352 6 років тому

      Yes. For extra safety, it was boiled twice, and now nobody will drink from it because they think it'll give them cancer AIDS.

  • @fmaz1952
    @fmaz1952 8 років тому +8

    Throw an IPhone in a ZipLock bag. Then test how good Find My IPhone really is.

  • @amberbydreamsart5467
    @amberbydreamsart5467 8 років тому +1

    I've been to the falls! My family's lived in minnesota my whole life, we just saw the signs for the trail to it when driving up on vacation to canada once and were in no rush so we figured why not? We'd never heard of the falls before and I didn't know it was actually a mystery where the water went until now! very cool

  • @Grove332
    @Grove332 8 років тому +33

    You could try redirecting the river into the West river and then sending an expedition down into the Kettle.

    • @gro_skunk
      @gro_skunk 8 років тому +11

      what if demons come crawling out?

    • @JoeCrush_
      @JoeCrush_ 8 років тому

      +Skunkdog Gro dementia N

    • @Outland9000
      @Outland9000 8 років тому +4

      +Skunkdog Gro Guns.

    • @MUtley-rf8vg
      @MUtley-rf8vg 8 років тому +1

      +Grove332
      Doggone it... why do you have to go and suggest such an obvious solution as that?

    • @Vykk_Draygo
      @Vykk_Draygo 8 років тому +3

      +Grove332 That would be a very destructive method of studying it. That also doesn't account for the likelihood that the kettle wouldn't be the only water source.

  • @imtired222333
    @imtired222333 8 років тому +14

    Can you post the answer when/if they figure it out?

    • @shiny_x3
      @shiny_x3 5 років тому +3

      here you go: motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/594byq/where-the-devils-kettle-waterfall-to-nowhere-really-goes

  • @kienesel7
    @kienesel7 8 років тому +17

    The perfect place to hide a body...

  • @DisgruntledWhiteGuy
    @DisgruntledWhiteGuy 8 років тому +5

    Dear SciShow, Please make a video explaining why GPS doesn't work underground. The number of people suggesting that should tell you that some education is in order.

  • @funpheonix9752
    @funpheonix9752 7 років тому

    I was born and raised in Minnesota. I feel so happy when Minnesota gets mentioned in videos. I so want to visit Devil's Kettle Falls. It'll take me 5 hours to get there though... sigh. That's what I get for living in the Twin Cities.

  • @coureurdebois
    @coureurdebois 8 років тому +32

    why not put a sensor down there? and have like a built in GPS or travel sensor or something and let it record, then wait till it surfaces and get the data from it, or have a super long wire? idk.

    • @tron-8140
      @tron-8140 8 років тому +6

      +justin bouche GPS doesn't work underground. It needs direct line of sight to satellites
      in space. I am amazed at the number of people who do not understand how
      GPS works.

    • @coureurdebois
      @coureurdebois 8 років тому +2

      Mote of Dust thats why i said travel sensor or long wire.

    • @tron-8140
      @tron-8140 8 років тому +1

      +justin bouche GPS does not work underground. Period.

    • @Tjita1
      @Tjita1 8 років тому +2

      +Mote of Dust If you make it streamlined enough and the correct density, you might have a lucky day and catch it surfacing somewhere, though..

    • @lejink
      @lejink 8 років тому +2

      +Mote of Dust lol... there is tunnel mapping equipment that directional drillers use that can send signals to the surface
      GPS is obviously not an option ffs

  • @xavierrst5380
    @xavierrst5380 8 років тому +8

    No one is going to mention the hot Megan Fox demon movie that takes place in the town named after that freak thing? Jennifer's body? Really? No one?

    • @shiningarmor2838
      @shiningarmor2838 6 років тому

      You're on the wrong channel for that. We're all nerds here.

  • @MauroTamm
    @MauroTamm 8 років тому +27

    With all the tech available, they just guess? cameras on a rope, radio beacons (high power pulsing signal) etc.... Seems more like they don't want to know so they can rake in tourist money.

    • @khinzaw77
      @khinzaw77 8 років тому +12

      +Mauro Tamm Likely it hasn't been deemed important enough to warrant a serious geological investigation considering it looks pretty small.

    • @beaconrider
      @beaconrider 8 років тому

      +Mauro Tamm Do you really think less tourists would show up if they knew where the water was going? If they decide to use hi-tech equipment and a team of geologists to solve this little mystery, are you going to pay for it?

    • @pp-nx1ck
      @pp-nx1ck 8 років тому

      +beaconrider all you need is a water tight container (maybe something to weigh it down a bit) and something that you can track with gps. that's like.. maybe 20-30 bucks.

    • @photon_shines
      @photon_shines 8 років тому

      +[REDACTED] Whatever you throw down there will probably lose the GPS signal as soon as it gets underground though.

    • @pp-nx1ck
      @pp-nx1ck 8 років тому

      Julia Mak Its not a very thorough investigation i know, but here's what i was trying to get at,
      If you never get a signal again, then you know the water most likely ends up somewhere underground,
      If it does eventually surface again, then you would be able to track it again and find where the water ends up.
      Its more of just a "does it end underground or somewhere above ground" test, seeing as they didn't even know that much.

  • @Focie
    @Focie 8 років тому +5

    Interesting. I am fairly sure we have the same phenomenon in Norway. I believe it was called "huldergryten", but I am actually very unsure. I tried googling it, but I couldn't find anything. Strange.

  • @ceasebenjaminbeast3947
    @ceasebenjaminbeast3947 8 років тому +11

    lol i thought he said the lake was the size of Australia :o

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 8 років тому

      +Cease Beast: That would be impressive, given that Aus is 7M sqkm, vs USA at 9M sqkm

    • @masterofmundus1304
      @masterofmundus1304 6 років тому

      Steve Cheetah To be fair, the lake is also in Canada, but yeah that would be an awesome lake

  • @PTNLemay
    @PTNLemay 8 років тому +1

    That sounds terrifying. I mean, just imagine how many small animals have fallen in. Or even people.

  • @PikaPetey
    @PikaPetey 8 років тому +79

    use radioactive dye.

    • @Kibaoftheleaves
      @Kibaoftheleaves 8 років тому

      +Pikapetey Petey! Hey, you :D

    • @madararyuzaki9233
      @madararyuzaki9233 8 років тому

      Oh you! :D

    • @Creaform003
      @Creaform003 8 років тому +1

      +Pikapetey I was scrolling through the comments to find this.

    • @rushyscoper1651
      @rushyscoper1651 8 років тому +1

      was thinking about it

    • @JackSparrow-tn6ic
      @JackSparrow-tn6ic 8 років тому +2

      +Pikapetey Isotopes are actually are commonly used method for tracing in hydrogeology. The problem is, you have to find your isotopes again and noone seems to know where to look, in this case.
      Edit: Those are not radioactive, my bad.

  • @MegaAstroFan18
    @MegaAstroFan18 6 років тому +1

    This has been solved since this video, and it's pretty underwhelming; the water just rejoins the river. It just joins back up with the river underwater, and stuff that's been thrown in ends up being shoved to the bottom by the force of the water coming down, and then pops back up once it's out of sight.

  • @Dee-jp7ek
    @Dee-jp7ek 8 років тому +3

    oh my god this place is real? O.O I remeber hearing of it in Jennifer's Body but I didnt think it was actually real xD

  • @delahaven
    @delahaven 8 років тому

    Seeing the water just disappear before your eyes is quite the experience. I've made my way out to the middle of the river and just sat on a rock for a while, watching it happen

  • @Heritagepostfarms
    @Heritagepostfarms 8 років тому +3

    For all you people saying to send a gopro/gps down there. Go right ahead! No one is stopping you!

  • @TheGamblermusic
    @TheGamblermusic 8 років тому +2

    a volleyball sized ball with light and camera inside, attached to a strong thread. Unroll 2 or 3 km then pull it back. Also put an altimeter and maybe a strong gps device, then you can map it for a fraction of the cost of sending someone.

    • @cyb3ar897
      @cyb3ar897 8 років тому

      +The Gambler The problem with that is that GPS signals don't penetrate through solid objects very well.

  • @PandemOnium01
    @PandemOnium01 8 років тому +13

    I've been to devils kettle and almost fell :/

    • @ryanresa
      @ryanresa 8 років тому +1

      +Marble Studios I was there last with an 18 month-old in a hiking baby carrier backpack...I was very careful NOT to risk falling. :)
      But its awesome....I miss The North Shore so...I need me some Betty's Pies..... ;)

    • @HALLish-bl3bm
      @HALLish-bl3bm 8 років тому +10

      Shit... It's the perfect place to dispose of a body.

    • @labradorretriever3051
      @labradorretriever3051 8 років тому +1

      +Marble Studios LOL

  • @fastcarenjoyer8008
    @fastcarenjoyer8008 8 років тому +1

    I love near there, it's truly a sight to see.

  • @pierrestober3423
    @pierrestober3423 8 років тому +7

    It's going to the bat cave !

  • @zenfer
    @zenfer 8 років тому

    Let's go Minnesota is on scishow. Life complete.

  • @MilitantPeaceist
    @MilitantPeaceist 8 років тому +3

    The only signal that can be detected at an indeterminate depth is a neutrino, build a neutrino generator which will stand out against other neutrino's & you will be able to map the entire underground system dynamically.

  • @Nimaway12
    @Nimaway12 8 років тому

    This makes me so happy because I hike up to devils kettle every year lol. Its really pretty!

  • @wenderajade
    @wenderajade 8 років тому +4

    Why don't they just chuck a tag down there like they use to track marine life migration?

  • @Adakechi
    @Adakechi 8 років тому +1

    This is literally so fascinating...or maybe I just really like waterfalls.

  • @humungusfungus1063
    @humungusfungus1063 8 років тому +18

    goPro

  • @DragoniteSpam
    @DragoniteSpam 8 років тому

    You guys should eventually do a compilation list for Weird Places with the Coolest Names.

  • @The_CoreyBrown
    @The_CoreyBrown 8 років тому +9

    Why doesn't somebody just throw a tracker or something in there... Like the ones they tag fish with???

    • @kellygoodfellow1316
      @kellygoodfellow1316 8 років тому +3

      +Corey Brown I think people have tried, but the signal can't get through the rock and if any have resurfaced they haven't been found.

  • @carlolmstead518
    @carlolmstead518 8 років тому

    This is one of my favorite paces in MN.

  • @derek_ma
    @derek_ma 8 років тому +5

    but WHY are there RAT TRAPS in the CAR CARE section of the supermarket?

    • @skyr8449
      @skyr8449 8 років тому +1

      +Prodlax because rats love cars

    • @nettlescats3796
      @nettlescats3796 8 років тому

      +Prodlax If you have ever parked a vehicle in a barn or in rural areas for an extended period of time, you would know why;)

    • @Glockenspheal
      @Glockenspheal 8 років тому

      +Prodlax You are not going to be the next litojonny :P

    • @nettlescats3796
      @nettlescats3796 8 років тому

      Yep. Home Improvement section at Target.

  • @silentdeath933
    @silentdeath933 8 років тому +2

    So first of all GPS won't work underground. Second of all a camera would be useless as the water would prevent it from getting good shots.
    Also I'm surprised that many people don't know how a GPS works. They should do a topic on it.

  • @Oracle428
    @Oracle428 8 років тому +12

    How about dropping some water proof GPS trackers down the hole... maybe attached to some fishing bobbers, so they float when they come back out somewhere... and, well, track them... if it goes too deep underground that it loses the signal, maybe they will pick up when they resurface... then investigate that location for the inflow point.

    • @Hannah-hl2el
      @Hannah-hl2el 8 років тому

      +Oracle428 Yea for real like something waterproof.

    • @anikaithbhardwaj
      @anikaithbhardwaj 8 років тому

      +Oracle428 exactly. Or some sort of drone to control and go thru the cave.

    • @Hannah-hl2el
      @Hannah-hl2el 8 років тому

      AnixTheAnix Inc. I think it would have to super small, though. Because it does "just disappear into the ground"

    • @Evello37
      @Evello37 8 років тому +1

      +Oracle428 Making a tracker float might not be a good idea. If the water is traveling in some kind of underground cave (unlikely as that may be) then the tracker could get caught by a rock formation on the roof of the cavern.

    • @aepceo1
      @aepceo1 8 років тому

      +Oracle428 GPS doesn't work underground. It would be better to attach a tracker with an extremely long cable. Though, it might end up getting caught on something. *shrug*

  • @MissLilyputt
    @MissLilyputt 8 років тому

    I'm gonna be singin' that Van Halen song all day now. Thanks SciShow. 😂

  • @KishoreShenoy1994
    @KishoreShenoy1994 8 років тому +4

    What ever the theory is, I will just go with the flow...

  • @al_khalid_248
    @al_khalid_248 8 років тому +1

    I'm so glad I chose geology as my main subject in uni. I actually understand what he said about basalt vs rhyolite and their differences.

    • @SolarShado
      @SolarShado 8 років тому

      I played a lot of Dwarf Fortress and followed most of it.

  • @ravenhullum6390
    @ravenhullum6390 8 років тому +6

    All this scientific words, obviously there is a village under there and that is their water source. Duh.
    Ive watched too many movies.

  • @ThunderNinja12
    @ThunderNinja12 8 років тому +1

    Thank you, I am now going to have nightmares of falling and drowning in this dark, mysterious, endless cave.

  • @tealeyevisuals7446
    @tealeyevisuals7446 8 років тому +5

    Did anyone consider blocking the waterflow so they can examine it?

    • @buttmandbutthurt1391
      @buttmandbutthurt1391 8 років тому +1

      exactly my thoughts

    • @crazysquirrel879
      @crazysquirrel879 8 років тому +1

      But what about the creatures that may live there...........so mean they have lives to

    • @tealeyevisuals7446
      @tealeyevisuals7446 8 років тому +2

      crazysquirrel We could always redirect the waterflow.

  • @BoyanYurukov
    @BoyanYurukov 8 років тому

    We have a river with the same phenomenon in Bulgaria. It enters a cave - Devil's throat - and exits on the other side. Tree trunks and even paint don't make it out. The cave also boasts the highest underground waterfall in Europe and has prehistoric paintings and remains. one can visit the large chamber - it's quite laud actually.

  • @Huntracony
    @Huntracony 8 років тому +4

    I love how there are litterally three suggestions repeated all over the comment section.
    "Why not send something wireless in there?" Because it won't have a signal in there.
    "Why not put something on a rope and throw it in?" Because it'd need to be really strong which would make it increadibly costly.
    "Why not block it and send someone in there?" because it'd be expensive, would hurt nature, and we don't even know if it's large enough to fit someone in.
    My question is why not put a floating thing with whatever science would be usefull in there that sends a GPS signal when it detects light? So it'd come out somewhere, floats to the top, detect daylight, send a signal and a boat couild come retrieve it to get the data. No connection required, you won't disturb nature, and it'd be fairly cheap.

    • @moffboffjoe
      @moffboffjoe 8 років тому

      +Huntracony "Secondly a floating device
      would get stuck at the first underground air pocket and will never see
      daylight again" Your suggestion has already been answered too :3

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 8 років тому

      Joseph Young I don't think it would. If it's anything like a normal cave there is air above the entire thing as the water would've been eroding away at the cave, making it larger. And even if that isn't true, I think the water would be fast enough for it to hit the ceiling and be pushed back down.

    • @nettlescats3796
      @nettlescats3796 8 років тому

      +Huntracony It may drain into a huge water table and never be able to send out any signal from under hard pan. But maybe if it sunk to just the right depth it would eventually get sucked up by somebody's well pump, lol;)

    • @Huntracony
      @Huntracony 8 років тому

      MsDiz N From the Wikipedia-ing I just did water tables have to do with aquafers, not underground caves, which is what we're talking about. Am I wrong?

    • @nettlescats3796
      @nettlescats3796 8 років тому +1

      Flowing water going underground through caves or any other means ends up where most likely when there is no visible outlet? Take a wild guess.

  • @albaliscool
    @albaliscool 8 років тому +1

    I know a GPS tracker won't work beneath the rock, but surely if it flowed into another river above ground you would get a signal and could see where it was, which is the whole mystery.

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 8 років тому +3

    Maybe it just goes into an aquifer after hittng some fracture or rocky aggregate layer. It's not like the area is lacking in that regard.

  • @LeTtRrZ
    @LeTtRrZ 8 років тому +2

    Maybe it goes to an underground body of water. Maybe a giant gas bubble punched a hole in the magma rock which caused this hole to appear.

  • @JazzyJacksJokeShack
    @JazzyJacksJokeShack 8 років тому +8

    Is it not possible for people to just put a drone or camera or tracker into the waterfall?

    • @00ChaosSaber00
      @00ChaosSaber00 8 років тому +2

      +SirBlazinGames Radio waves (including GPS) don't penetrate rock very well.

    • @JazzyJacksJokeShack
      @JazzyJacksJokeShack 8 років тому

      NopeNopeNope Well it would at least show it doesn't come out to somewhere else wouldn't it?

    • @JazzyJacksJokeShack
      @JazzyJacksJokeShack 8 років тому

      mrman991 Hmmm true.

  • @I_am_Lauren
    @I_am_Lauren 8 років тому

    Woah cool! loved the information in this episode!

  • @falaqueeuajudo
    @falaqueeuajudo 8 років тому +4

    Impressive how actually NOBODY has just thrown a GPS transmitter down there ant tracked its path. Not that difficult unless it actually goes to hell

    • @Horstroad
      @Horstroad 8 років тому +3

      +Fala que Eu Ajudo GPS does not work underground. You need direct line of sight to at least 4 GPS satellites.

    • @gro_skunk
      @gro_skunk 8 років тому +5

      except the GPS would stop working only a few feet under the ground because GPS signals don't penetrate rock very well.
      kind of how GPS stops working when going through a tunnel.

    • @DamnZodiak
      @DamnZodiak 8 років тому

      It is fairly surprising that no one's done that yet, but the results might not be as expected. GPS signals don't really go through solid rock and it's not unlikely that whatever you put in there might not show up in a really long time.

    • @tron-8140
      @tron-8140 8 років тому +1

      +Fala que Eu Ajudo What is even more impressive is the sheer number of people who have no clue how GPS works.

    • @electropigeon5472
      @electropigeon5472 8 років тому +2

      +Mote of Dust What is even more impressive is the amount of times you have commented this.

  • @samvoigt21
    @samvoigt21 8 років тому

    I've been there!! It's so cool looking, and strange to think of how the water is just lost completely after it goes in

  • @feynstein1004
    @feynstein1004 8 років тому +2

    Why not simply direct the discharge on the western side into the eastern side? The cavern should now be dry and much easier to explore manually.

  • @rigrentals5297
    @rigrentals5297 8 років тому

    Stefan Chin is the BEst!!!!!!! Thanks again SciSHow~~~~~~

  •  8 років тому +19

    Just throw a GPS tracking unit in there.

    • @PeninjaPlaysTheThing
      @PeninjaPlaysTheThing 8 років тому +2

      Um..pal...

    • @FakeButt
      @FakeButt 8 років тому

      +Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson it won't get any signal from the GPS satellites under the ground so you'll just lose the device.

    •  8 років тому +3

      FakeButt Then throw a person in there tied to a really long rope.

    • @PeninjaPlaysTheThing
      @PeninjaPlaysTheThing 8 років тому +13

      Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson Um..pal....

    • @frosty9392
      @frosty9392 8 років тому

      +FakeButt you would when/if it came back out

  • @creepystares9853
    @creepystares9853 8 років тому +1

    why doesn't someone make a small submersible with the ability to record it's location, with the potential of exiting the thing, popping out and saying 'hi!'? Seems like a grant waiting to happen.

  • @superalibros
    @superalibros 8 років тому +3

    GET A FREAKING YELLOW SUBMARINE AND TRAVEL IN IT

  • @pastelab
    @pastelab 8 років тому

    Radioactive dye, robot drones, ping pong balls with trackers, I mean someone do these things- I can't reach there!

  • @whoeveriam0iam14222
    @whoeveriam0iam14222 8 років тому +4

    dam up the side that goes into the hole and then send something in to check

    • @Efreeti
      @Efreeti 8 років тому

      +whoeveriam0iam14222 This is actually probably the easiest way to do it. But what if that its water later on comes back to the surface under earth and it's extremely important for ground water in some area, or is somehow otherwise an important source to someone?

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 8 років тому +1

      +Efreeti Well, when they complain, then you'll know the answer.

  • @Car0linaPh03nix
    @Car0linaPh03nix 8 років тому

    I feel like I could design a device that would figure out very quickly where the water ends up. Connect a GPS radio, cell radio, and sizable battery to a microcontroller and seal it up inside a waterproof container, maybe add some weight to make it neutrally buoyant in water. Have it record its GPS location whenever it can get a triangulation lock, and have it attempt to broadcast its location/the saved location history when it has coverage. Then just turn it on and drop it in the kettle. Make sure you have a server running to listen for contact from the unit.

  • @fbcvxbnfgdgh
    @fbcvxbnfgdgh 8 років тому +3

    MINNESNOWTA REPRESENT

  • @NatureShy
    @NatureShy 6 років тому

    Correction, I think the "Disappearing Lake" mentioned is actually in Washington, not Oregon. South Prairie Meadows forms a "lake" in the spring, and in early summer, it drains away into a lava tube at the base of Big Lava Bed. But if there's one in Oregon, I do not know of it.
    And speaking of lava tubes, probably the best example of one in the U.S. is actually in Washington, not California. The Ape Caves located at the base of Mt. St. Helens. There are other lava tubes in the state, such as the Natural Bridges lava trench "partially collapsed lava tube," the Ice Caves, Cheese Cave, the Windholes, and various other lava tubes around Trout Lake.

  • @macey75
    @macey75 8 років тому +4

    Perfect place to get rid of a body huh?

  • @kennethross786
    @kennethross786 2 роки тому

    Virgin Falls State Natural Area in Tennessee does that. It's officially 110' but it's really more like 180-200' as it drops into a limestone cave directly below the falls and vanishes.

  • @abbiegandy7117
    @abbiegandy7117 8 років тому +16

    Jennifer's Body anyone?

  • @taylorperrier158
    @taylorperrier158 8 років тому

    Why do we roll our eyes when people annoy us? Also awesome video, I've been there and it's crazy awesome!

  • @Glockenspheal
    @Glockenspheal 8 років тому +11

    Dear people in the comments, GPS don't work, neither stopping/redirecting the river, nor a floating device, nor something strapped onto a rope. we need to be REAL creative if we want to solve this.

    • @Glockenspheal
      @Glockenspheal 8 років тому

      Dogeasaurus Rex It could get stuck, so it could never be retrieved. or be stuck inside an underground cavern

    • @anikaithbhardwaj
      @anikaithbhardwaj 8 років тому

      +Bluespheal A drone. Or something that you could control down there?

    • @Glockenspheal
      @Glockenspheal 8 років тому +1

      AnixTheAnix Inc. The problem is the wireless range, too deep and too far and the drone would not respond anymore.

    • @anikaithbhardwaj
      @anikaithbhardwaj 8 років тому

      +Bluespheal very true. Although we have technologies that help us communicate with far away robots. So we have to use those as opposed to a commercial kind of fun. If this makes sense. That was what I meant by drones, so I apologize for the confusion.

    • @Glockenspheal
      @Glockenspheal 8 років тому

      AnixTheAnix Inc. Maybe, but far away is not the same as deep in a cave, there is a reason why we can communicate with satelites in the void of space and not inside of underwater caverns.

  • @nathanaeld.striker7191
    @nathanaeld.striker7191 7 років тому

    This gets me thinking. Perhaps a waterproof camera that one can drop into the west side that feeds live footage to a researcher's computer? Maybe?

  • @SolinariXi
    @SolinariXi 8 років тому +3

    Here for Jennifer's Body.

  • @matt_heinen
    @matt_heinen 8 років тому

    I've been to Devils Kettle before, it's amazing!

  • @scottvelez3154
    @scottvelez3154 8 років тому +6

    Just throw a water proof camera down there

    • @tron-8140
      @tron-8140 8 років тому

      +Scott Velez You wouldn't be able to see anything, all you would see are bubbles rushing past and perhaps a few flashes of rock.

    • @DarkLordToturials
      @DarkLordToturials 8 років тому

      +Mote of Dust Plus the water must be going REALLY fast, making it even harder to get a good image.

    • @_hector__
      @_hector__ 8 років тому +1

      Is this nigga dumb af or what

    • @starmoon1987
      @starmoon1987 8 років тому

      +Scott Velez with flashlight on and a GPS :D

    • @scottvelez3154
      @scottvelez3154 8 років тому

      starmoon1987 exactly friend

  • @leadfarmer4life335
    @leadfarmer4life335 8 років тому

    Cool episode guys!

  • @kcvriess
    @kcvriess 8 років тому +7

    Throw repeated sex offenders in and see where and/or if they come out.

    • @Stickmanzed
      @Stickmanzed 8 років тому +1

      +FUCKNewChannelLayout rofl

    • @johnytiger5826
      @johnytiger5826 8 років тому

      +FUCKNewChannelLayout then at least we know where it ends now

    • @Stickmanzed
      @Stickmanzed 8 років тому

      Johny Trejo BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!