In any case, the troops had snappy uniforms AND enfield rifles. Interesting story about the accuasations of larceny, but sldo consider the source. Thank you again for this video…
Very interesting ! When you first mentioned that Betts was a lawyer, I thought he was going to argue about everything, because that is what lawyers do best. I had heard about other lawyers or public officials who were suddenly immersed into the military at the beginning of the war and sometimes put into positions of power where they publicly argued with everybody. Gen. Butler at Fort Monroe was this type of person. This situation creates quite a comedy, and the dialogue is memorable. There was a lot of disorganization at the beginning of the war and sometimes people didn't know who was in charge, were ill-equipped and didn't know what to do if leaders were not career military men. The military is hierarchical, not democratic! The internal power struggles within an army can make for very interesting reading, and the correspondence and dialogue give the stories a certain kind of mental energy. This is different from the physical energy of battles. The power struggles between geographical "Departments," Armies, and the Navy make interesting stories. The coming of the portable field telegraphs preserved these interactions, and almost promoted them, because the discussions could involve wider participation. The book, "Lincoln in the Telegraph Office," gives an interesting framework for this topic. The correspondence between Goldsborough and McClellan during the Seven Days Battles is comical. Goldsborough is demanding proper respect, and McClellan is having his staff, and even Washington, to run interference on the telegrams, while McClellan is in the midst of carnage at the Front. Another example is in 1863 during Dix's Peninsula Campaign to Richmond, diverted by Gettysburg. Dix commands the geographical "Department" based in Fort Monroe, but also commands another Corps under the "Army." Dix is older and has kind of been the switch-board-operator at the Fort for the last year, and knows Everything. He also commanded some operations on the peninsula throughout the winter. Meanwhile, Keyes commands another corps under Dix, but he was in the 1862 Peninsula Campaign and knows Everything about the Front. Keyes had bunkered down and occupied Yorktown for the winter and doesn't want to get too far out of his comfort zone. Dix tries to micro-manage Keyes in getting to Richmond, without many forces and supplies compared to McClellan's huge operation in 1862. So Keyes is having none of it. Dix is trying to send Keyes on a "hopeless" mission, not even taking into consideration the barrier of the Chickahominy River which was the downfall in 1862. They are not even on the correct road for the mission - they should be going towards Mechanicsville or Meadow Bridge, not Quinton and Bottom's Bridge. So Dix is saving ALL his painful telegram correspondence with Keyes in order to justify to Washington why things don't just magically happen. Meanwhile, Washington is dealing with Gettysburg! It is pretty comical. .
Butler was not the worst political general same to McClernand. I think Butler lost his temper with the famouse 28th general order with the women of New Orleans. He fired the New Orleans city council and the major and he and his subordinate to put in order New Orleans. This was extrem excellent step, because the New Orleans civil leaders did a little sabotage. After Butler and his subordinates did well in the occupied city, because no yellow fever, no rubish and there were organized jobs for the poor, food for everybody. The Federal Army had to wait 3-4 weeks and the ardent confederate minority women became silent in New Orleans. (I will say something surprising) His and his brother's corruption helped New Orleans and South Louisina economial revival. Butler's women order did international problem for Seward, because Parlmerston crtizcritized Butler in the London Parliament. Capital puneshment against Mumford did a Confederacy martyr, instead of this Butler could have said Mumford's tearing down the flag was a military action and therefore could have been sent as a prisoner of war as a civilian. Butler began to muster white prounionist soldiers and 5000 were of them for 1865. Same to Fort Monroe he began to use the colored people as team workers and cooks for the Army and Navy and later Butler founded the first African American regiments. Chase liked him, because Butler organized the cheapest military troops. I think a good field army leader would have been to assist (Banks had the other Sherman.). He could have remained in the Gulf of Mexico area leader with Farragut. Perhaps there was no Red River campaign and Farragut would have started the Mobile Bay campaign in 1863 instead of 1864 after Vicksburg and Port Hudson. Perhaps because general Asboth was Hungarian I am interested in Pensacola (fort Pickens) Florida and Winfield Scott's Anakonda plan I think key thing in the Federal victory, I am curiouse why Penscola had so little role after 10 May 1862? Pensacola had rairoad line to Montgomery Alabama. We knows in the XXIst Century the River, Naval and rairoad transports were important in the Civil War. The South gave a railroad line possibility on tray from Pensacola to Montgomery Alabama. A railroad a possibility for army or a strong corp to get good logistic..................Instead of Red River campaign + Mobile in 1863..............
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Very interesting Maybe he was double dipping? We look forward to many more in the new year. Hope you feel better
In any case, the troops had snappy uniforms AND enfield rifles. Interesting story about the accuasations of larceny, but sldo consider the source. Thank you again for this video…
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Very interesting !
When you first mentioned that Betts was a lawyer, I thought he was going to argue about everything, because that is what lawyers do best.
I had heard about other lawyers or public officials who were suddenly immersed into the military at the beginning of the war and sometimes put into positions of power where they publicly argued with everybody. Gen. Butler at Fort Monroe was this type of person. This situation creates quite a comedy, and the dialogue is memorable.
There was a lot of disorganization at the beginning of the war and sometimes people didn't know who was in charge, were ill-equipped and didn't know what to do if leaders were not career military men. The military is hierarchical, not democratic!
The internal power struggles within an army can make for very interesting reading, and the correspondence and dialogue give the stories a certain kind of mental energy. This is different from the physical energy of battles. The power struggles between geographical "Departments," Armies, and the Navy make interesting stories.
The coming of the portable field telegraphs preserved these interactions, and almost promoted them, because the discussions could involve wider participation. The book, "Lincoln in the Telegraph Office," gives an interesting framework for this topic.
The correspondence between Goldsborough and McClellan during the Seven Days Battles is comical. Goldsborough is demanding proper respect, and McClellan is having his staff, and even Washington, to run interference on the telegrams, while McClellan is in the midst of carnage at the Front.
Another example is in 1863 during Dix's Peninsula Campaign to Richmond, diverted by Gettysburg. Dix commands the geographical "Department" based in Fort Monroe, but also commands another Corps under the "Army." Dix is older and has kind of been the switch-board-operator at the Fort for the last year, and knows Everything. He also commanded some operations on the peninsula throughout the winter.
Meanwhile, Keyes commands another corps under Dix, but he was in the 1862 Peninsula Campaign and knows Everything about the Front. Keyes had bunkered down and occupied Yorktown for the winter and doesn't want to get too far out of his comfort zone. Dix tries to micro-manage Keyes in getting to Richmond, without many forces and supplies compared to McClellan's huge operation in 1862. So Keyes is having none of it.
Dix is trying to send Keyes on a "hopeless" mission, not even taking into consideration the barrier of the Chickahominy River which was the downfall in 1862. They are not even on the correct road for the mission - they should be going towards Mechanicsville or Meadow Bridge, not Quinton and Bottom's Bridge.
So Dix is saving ALL his painful telegram correspondence with Keyes in order to justify to Washington why things don't just magically happen. Meanwhile, Washington is dealing with Gettysburg! It is pretty comical.
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Butler was not the worst political general same to McClernand. I think Butler lost his temper with the famouse 28th general order with the women of New Orleans. He fired the New Orleans city council and the major and he and his subordinate to put in order New Orleans. This was extrem excellent step, because the New Orleans civil leaders did a little sabotage. After Butler and his subordinates did well in the occupied city, because no yellow fever, no rubish and there were organized jobs for the poor, food for everybody. The Federal Army had to wait 3-4 weeks and the ardent confederate minority women became silent in New Orleans. (I will say something surprising) His and his brother's corruption helped New Orleans and South Louisina economial revival. Butler's women order did international problem for Seward, because Parlmerston crtizcritized Butler in the London Parliament. Capital puneshment against Mumford did a Confederacy martyr, instead of this Butler could have said Mumford's tearing down the flag was a military action and therefore could have been sent as a prisoner of war as a civilian. Butler began to muster white prounionist soldiers and 5000 were of them for 1865. Same to Fort Monroe he began to use the colored people as team workers and cooks for the Army and Navy and later Butler founded the first African American regiments. Chase liked him, because Butler organized the cheapest military troops.
I think a good field army leader would have been to assist (Banks had the other Sherman.). He could have remained in the Gulf of Mexico area leader with Farragut. Perhaps there was no Red River campaign and Farragut would have started the Mobile Bay campaign in 1863 instead of 1864 after Vicksburg and Port Hudson.
Perhaps because general Asboth was Hungarian I am interested in Pensacola (fort Pickens) Florida and Winfield Scott's Anakonda plan I think key thing in the Federal victory, I am curiouse why Penscola had so little role after 10 May 1862?
Pensacola had rairoad line to Montgomery Alabama. We knows in the XXIst Century the River, Naval and rairoad transports were important in the Civil War. The South gave a railroad line possibility on tray from Pensacola to Montgomery Alabama.
A railroad a possibility for army or a strong corp to get good logistic..................Instead of Red River campaign + Mobile in 1863..............
This seems a bit off - like an AI generated video, both the audio and video. Strange.
It's just another wonderful Ron's video, just different light and place :)
I think he's using auto tune
Corrupt public officials??? Surely not…
Given the New York Tammany Hall gang, and the massive corruption endemic in that city from then to now, I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
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Sounds a bit like Chinese generals