Having an error of a few % in the SoC estimate (yes, it's an estimate) is normal, it's difficult to get it completely right especially if the battery hasn't been driven empty in a long time. Part of the reason for the buffer is to "eat" this error where necessary. Anyway, not being able to drive for a bit after charging 1kWh is a bad user experience, even though it makes sense for the BMS as it recalibrated itself when it saw the true bottom.
Björn, you should add a foldable two-wheeled shopping cart to your gear you carry around for this test. So you can put the two heavy ecoflows on it when you have to charge them at a gas station.
It's a shame that we didn't see the voltage on each cell or what the lowest cell voltage was, because the lowest cell voltage is probably the main factor for battery cut off. Each battery may behave a little differently depending on the voltage imbalance between the cells.
THE OLD DAREDEVIL BJORN IS BACK PULLING RABBITS FROM HIS HAT!! This was fun to watch but too risky man. Thanks for the video and if you plan to empty the car again, make sure the Equaflow is at 100%
Suggestion for VAG cars: they seem to "reset and reboot" any errors if they stay off and locked for at least ~10 minutes. So, leave the Ecoflow charging, but stay outside for a while next time.
Just some information for ENBW 51 cents/Kwh for ex ADAC customers in Germany. Beware your replacement for your ADAC/ENBW card will NOT arrive before 6-8 weeks, just in time for the end of the special price (51 cents). If you have already received a new card from ENBW (I ordered mine in advance) it will NOT entitle you to the special discount, you will have to pay the full price of 59 cents.
Funfact, this is also what happens if i drive my id.3 below 0% at least they are somewhat consistent with there own cars but my id.3 only has the 58kw batterie
I think cars should have a "Bjorn mode", 1kWh from e.g. EcoFlow or Anker or some such thing, should be enough to go 5-10km to a nearest charger somewhere in Norway. Car software dudes need to make this happen.
"Building up speed" while dumping 22kW in the motor isn't how you conserve battery power on a downhill. You either coast (0kW) or use just enough regen to keep speed under control.
@@bjornnyland Wind resistance scales with roughly v^1.3. When genuinely concerned about getting to the next charger, every watt wasted going faster than absolutely necessary is one watt too many. Telling people to "build up speed on downhills" by spending more power doing so than needed to maintain highway speed on a flat stretch is flat out wrong. "Building up speed" only makes sense as a range preservation strategy if you are coasting (~0W) downhill.
Love the way you have a laugh about the click bait thumbnail...lol Whats the best way to make a donation? I was going to give a single donation but would you get more of the money if I did a subscription for a few months then cancelled it?
@@supra800 I think probably not. That's a somewhat uncommon comparison that he or someone else who's driven both would have to make though. Not sure whether he's spoken of that comparison before. The EQE has airmatic suspension though... The Lexus just has MacPherson struts front and double wishbone rear and no fancy active or adaptive stuff... Just steel springs... So not on the same level... Although the Lexus isn't terrible either so who knows... It's an interesting match up
@@josephcullen2512 thank you for the advice, my 2024 Mercedes EQE SUV 500 don't have airmatick suspension,still drive wandufull , I'm thinking to buy the Lexus RZ450e ,I want to get feedback before I buy .I hope I get answers.
@@supra800 oh right cool... You're welcome! I wasn't sure if airmatic was standard or an option on the EQE... Well definitely worth a long test drive then or even a short term loan of the Lexus if you could organize it... Then you could compare them for yourself! It would be an interesting match up as I say... All the best with it
Hi Bjørn. If you receive any feedback from VW, it would be nice if you shared those. Seemed weird that the buffer is different for the MEB cars. Do you know why the SoC Display from Carscanner and what the car is showing in cockpit is different when you do the back up charge? And have you considered to leave the back up battery in trunk, and have the cable go out of the rear right window? 🤷😁 BTW... Love all your videos and different tests... ❤❤
Nice vidéo🎉. About CarScaner, how it is possible than in my EV6 LR RWD it says that ta 100% SOC my car has 67,5kwh but in a 100-1% SOC trip the dashboard car data give me 72,1 kwh used? Descalibrated BMS!
All these laybys and parking spots on motorways should have 7kwh chargers added to them. That way you can laugh in the face of a petrol car driver having to wait for someone to bring them car juice :D
i like it, the old MEB Cars had 5 kwh buffer which was little bit to high... so 100-0% was only around 72 Kwh usable and the 77 kwh which was advertised ...was never reached... the most people are driving till 10%, so now you have a accurate indication of your exact battery...
The 58kwh battery had effectively a 2kwh top and 2kwh bottom buffer which ment almost 10 % less was available for driving. You just have to charge in time.
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That zero buffer design is absolut horrible, if someone would switch from a Tesla to a VW they might get stranded cause you used to reach chargers with < 3% :D On every gas car we also have a 0 buffer for good reasons...
The buffer on gas cars is for two reasons: cooling and sloshing. The tank is a good way to shed heat from the fuel, and it needs some remaining fuel to ensure no air is being picked up.
"this is just for the clickbaity thumbnail" this why I love this channel 😂
It was soo close for the thumbnail to become true this time 😈
Different cars, even from the same manufacturers have different capacities "below 0%", I'm not surprised. Nice of you to try it so we don't have to.
so VW cannot program their cars behaving equally? wtf is that conclusion
@@hardywoodaway9912 They can, but they don't need to, and this video shows that they didn't. wtf is your comment?
Having an error of a few % in the SoC estimate (yes, it's an estimate) is normal, it's difficult to get it completely right especially if the battery hasn't been driven empty in a long time. Part of the reason for the buffer is to "eat" this error where necessary.
Anyway, not being able to drive for a bit after charging 1kWh is a bad user experience, even though it makes sense for the BMS as it recalibrated itself when it saw the true bottom.
For this reason it's not necessarily any different to the Buzz. It just happened to be in a bad state.
@@BubbaBearsFriend Why do you think they don't need to do this?
Björn, you should add a foldable two-wheeled shopping cart to your gear you carry around for this test. So you can put the two heavy ecoflows on it when you have to charge them at a gas station.
I already have one at home. Good idea.
I admire your patience... staying there for almost 2 hours with all this issues for this video... I would have been frustrated and stressed like hell.
Thank you Bjørn, for these very useful tests. 👍
It's a shame that we didn't see the voltage on each cell or what the lowest cell voltage was, because the lowest cell voltage is probably the main factor for battery cut off. Each battery may behave a little differently depending on the voltage imbalance between the cells.
Even in a VW; in s new pack they should be really close.. Whatever were the Tesla quoted numbers.. 5mV across the whole pack with no load.
you could leave battery in trunk and run the cable through car out of the back seat window
Cheers Bjorn!
THE OLD DAREDEVIL BJORN IS BACK PULLING RABBITS FROM HIS HAT!! This was fun to watch but too risky man. Thanks for the video and if you plan to empty the car again, make sure the Equaflow is at 100%
You’re a genius my friend ❤
Suggestion for VAG cars: they seem to "reset and reboot" any errors if they stay off and locked for at least ~10 minutes. So, leave the Ecoflow charging, but stay outside for a while next time.
0:50 Oh Björn, missed opportunity to say "Before The Sun goes away" :D
Just some information for ENBW 51 cents/Kwh for ex ADAC customers in Germany.
Beware your replacement for your ADAC/ENBW card will NOT arrive before 6-8 weeks, just in time for the end of the special price (51 cents). If you have already received a new card from ENBW (I ordered mine in advance) it will NOT entitle you to the special discount, you will have to pay the full price of 59 cents.
Leaf is the worst. You have to charge ~2kWh to start moving again. No crawl mode at all.
Luckily not anymore with the Ariya!
Funfact, this is also what happens if i drive my id.3 below 0% at least they are somewhat consistent with there own cars but my id.3 only has the 58kw batterie
I think cars should have a "Bjorn mode", 1kWh from e.g. EcoFlow or Anker or some such thing, should be enough to go 5-10km to a nearest charger somewhere in Norway. Car software dudes need to make this happen.
I checked on apple maps where u drive around.. yes i‘m always that curious 🤣 … as a german i love your little german words in the sentences haha 🤣🤣
You can fold the seat and roll down the window then u don’t need to put eco flow outside of the car
Unfortunately the trailer driver forgot his Ecoflow 21:33
Very helpful video ❤
Put the ecoflows in the back seat and open the window with the cable out to charge. Then you can still charge while having the trunk closed.
It would be nice to see the jaguar I pace tested
The Stellantis E-CMP cars brick below 0%, brick themselves in park.
"... ancient chinese secret ..." didn't work on the germans 🤣
The conculsion is you need a co pilot with V2L car in the next test🙂
Why don‘t use the eFlow App ? Should give you voltage Monitoring of each cell + way more Details
"Building up speed" while dumping 22kW in the motor isn't how you conserve battery power on a downhill. You either coast (0kW) or use just enough regen to keep speed under control.
22 kW is way better than 50 kW output.
@@bjornnyland Wind resistance scales with roughly v^1.3. When genuinely concerned about getting to the next charger, every watt wasted going faster than absolutely necessary is one watt too many.
Telling people to "build up speed on downhills" by spending more power doing so than needed to maintain highway speed on a flat stretch is flat out wrong. "Building up speed" only makes sense as a range preservation strategy if you are coasting (~0W) downhill.
Love the way you have a laugh about the click bait thumbnail...lol
Whats the best way to make a donation?
I was going to give a single donation but would you get more of the money if I did a subscription for a few months then cancelled it?
The best would be to use the streamlabs link.
Hello Bjorn.When you will test Renault Scenic E-tech?
20-26 August
Hi , did you test drive Lexus RZ450e ?
Yes he did
Is it same level as Mercedes EQE SUV? In comfort
@@supra800 I think probably not. That's a somewhat uncommon comparison that he or someone else who's driven both would have to make though. Not sure whether he's spoken of that comparison before. The EQE has airmatic suspension though... The Lexus just has MacPherson struts front and double wishbone rear and no fancy active or adaptive stuff... Just steel springs... So not on the same level... Although the Lexus isn't terrible either so who knows... It's an interesting match up
@@josephcullen2512 thank you for the advice, my 2024 Mercedes EQE SUV 500 don't have airmatick suspension,still drive wandufull , I'm thinking to buy the Lexus RZ450e ,I want to get feedback before I buy .I hope I get answers.
@@supra800 oh right cool... You're welcome! I wasn't sure if airmatic was standard or an option on the EQE... Well definitely worth a long test drive then or even a short term loan of the Lexus if you could organize it... Then you could compare them for yourself! It would be an interesting match up as I say... All the best with it
Maybe you need a diesel generator to be on the safe side :P
They are too big and heavy
@@bjornnyland honda eu22i only 20kg or the eu32i small silent models
Hi Bjørn. If you receive any feedback from VW, it would be nice if you shared those. Seemed weird that the buffer is different for the MEB cars. Do you know why the SoC Display from Carscanner and what the car is showing in cockpit is different when you do the back up charge?
And have you considered to leave the back up battery in trunk, and have the cable go out of the rear right window? 🤷😁
BTW... Love all your videos and different tests... ❤❤
Might be for better marketing, decreasing buffer means more range on paper
Nice vidéo🎉. About CarScaner, how it is possible than in my EV6 LR RWD it says that ta 100% SOC my car has 67,5kwh but in a 100-1% SOC trip the dashboard car data give me 72,1 kwh used? Descalibrated BMS!
is it being afected by the regen?
@@rubencaixeiro9762 Dashboard data is affected by regen so the difference is not due to that possibility
All these laybys and parking spots on motorways should have 7kwh chargers added to them. That way you can laugh in the face of a petrol car driver having to wait for someone to bring them car juice :D
*kW
1kWh zero buffer is very very little...
i like it, the old MEB Cars had 5 kwh buffer which was little bit to high... so 100-0% was only around 72 Kwh usable and the 77 kwh which was advertised ...was never reached... the most people are driving till 10%, so now you have a accurate indication of your exact battery...
@@TechnikFreak775 The more you squeeze the battery to its limits, the faster it will degrade. A bigger energy buffer certainly makes sense.
The 58kwh battery had effectively a 2kwh top and 2kwh bottom buffer which ment almost 10 % less was available for driving. You just have to charge in time.
@@davidbelecci6970 well that wqs certainly too much
Size doesn't matter. What was scary was that it stopped suddenly with around 50 kW power limit.
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11:38 yeah that's me in the Livestream chat, giving the Erklärbär 🥳
That zero buffer design is absolut horrible, if someone would switch from a Tesla to a VW they might get stranded cause you used to reach chargers with < 3% :D On every gas car we also have a 0 buffer for good reasons...
Better don't switch anyway.
The buffer on gas cars is for two reasons: cooling and sloshing. The tank is a good way to shed heat from the fuel, and it needs some remaining fuel to ensure no air is being picked up.
@@kain0m Same for EV, you don't want to regular deep discharge the battery
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You can fold the seat and roll down the window then u don’t need to put eco flow outside of the car.
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