Coming in having JUST beaten this fight. My main advice is utilise the pillars/ bags to keep some distance and for God's sake, make sure the youngest is dead BEFORE the Eldest comes back
For the Eldest, you can cheese him by staying at the stone pillar. Just run around it, and wait for him to do red attacks to attack him. His attacks will be blocked by the stone wall.
@@andreacolombo7128 flamberge hits him over the sacks when you're on opposite side and none of his swings hit you, he still gets around but it's a million times easier than trying to fight him. That's with upgraded flamberge has more range
I wouldn't even say the boss is "bad". I enjoyed it. Sure it felt really dumb at multiple points, but it also wasn't too difficult (because the three younger brothers didn't do much damage). Eso is pissed because he had to do it HITLESS. When I got to this fight, my first thought was "how the hell is he going to do this hitless"
@@TrickyTricky914 If a boss is this tedious to do hitless, I think it's not a very good fight. This boss is absolutely miserable; throwing a second phase onto a boss that's already guaranteed to take 3-5 minutes is insane.
This should have been 2 seperate fights. Give them more dmg output and a checkpoint afterwards to fight Eldest on his own. Absolute chore just to get to the Eldest to try learn his attacks only to get whomped by constant tracking red attacks. Loved the game but this was the lowest point of the whole thing for me. Also, admittedly it's not as bad as when I wrote this comment, much more tolerable after the patch since the summon can actually survive more than 30 seconds now
@@Snacks256 fair opinion honestly. While I didn’t mind the fight, yeah, I’d still rank it fairly low on a boss tier list. Maybe even last. Possibly right above the Green Monster. I had way more trouble with that one than I should have and the runback, while not that bad, was longer than it needed to be (kept getting pissed that getting hit by a single special move would affect you with decay. Ran out of the purifying ampoules many times. Had to keep doing loops to farm ergo for them. When I finally got the fight down, I still got hit with it once or twice in the second phase). It’s not even that I disliked that boss either. It was just getting on my nerves and took me the longest out of all the bosses I’ve faced so far (the last main boss I have fought was the brotherhood pt 2). And just because I want to vent, screw the King of Puppet’s phase 2 arm attacks (phase 2 meaning when he’s still the big puppet, but after he gains a different moveset). Even if you parry them, they push you back meaning you can’t get a follow up. Romeo wasn’t even that difficult, but getting to him was the annoying part and only having one or two pulse cells didn’t help.
@@TrickyTricky914 I would put Green Monster in top 5 maybe. It usually uses the spray attack when it's far away, so you have to let it approach you rather than rushing in during a standoff. Romeo's fire attack is too much. Getting 3/4 through a boss fight and dying instantly because he has some Elden Ring combo is really annoying. But his attacks in general are trivially easy to dodge. But I don't know why games still insist on using multi bosses. Sekiro has some of the best bosses ever and zero of them are anything other than 1 on 1.
At first attempt i was like..." Oooh easy " Later, " Oh not that easy but fine" In third attempt.... " Oh my god!! I was getting hit left and right, front and back, roasted, electrocuted, and decayed at the same time "
7:18 may be the cheapest trick the devs implemented in this game, there's plenty of bosses who perform several hits before even getting staggered, BRUH...
Viktor does the same, tho, and same with the green monster, iirc. I don't think it's bs cause it gives you ample time to see the riposte mark to go away *and* get out of range or perfect parry. Might just be me, but this and the first brotherhood fights are so good, and genuinely Fromsoft and other devs should take notes cause they're gank fights that aren't "you fight two guys, they both are the same speed and aggro while 2 shotting you. Good luck!"
@@jatinmarcob2128 Victor and Green Swamp Monster did a pretty good job of pulling that "surprise attack before stunned" gimmick. And yeah From should take notes, that being said, I think demon prince from Dark Souls 3 and shadow of yharnam from Bloodborne are better gank boss. Rabbit Brotherhood 1st fight is good but I don't think it gives the best example of gank boss. If anything, From should take a look back on their previous works.
@@jatinmarcob2128 i went into this battle with lv9 bonecutting saw blade and 8 pulse cells, one of my favorite battles took me like 5 tries, i dont get why people hate it so much
Well you made me realized I'd been completely approaching this fight incorrectly and was getting my ass smacked because of it. Thank you for your video!!
@@TakerAndy Going for longer weapons helps here. I'd advise staying away from the passive brotherhood members (Getting near them causes them to attack relentlessly). Stock up on throwables and ampoules for the status effects. In phase 1, make sure NOT to get your second member kill unless the third member is also close to death, as the eldest will come out if there's only one member left. Also, make sure to tune your weapon and legion arm for the fight. You can do this!
This would be a fair fight without the Eldest. Would be a little harder Shadows of Yharnam, basically. But no, everything has to be agony in this game. I wish I got a coin everytime he uses a bs insufferable fury attack, then I would have enough money to buy the Lies of P studio.
It's not unfair. The trick Is leaving the last 2 with Little to no health and then killing them both quickly. Once only the Eldest remains, it's Easy to deal with him with the obstacles in the arena and a mid-range weapon, legion arm or consumables
"Accept your fate. Death has come for you." Me : Ah good. Denial, how noble thou art .....thy arrogant as the very source for me to referee thee, I'll make sure thou feel like home, for thou have chosen death.
After watching a few videos of this fight, I’m starting to think that no summon might better for this fight as I’ve realized you’ll get the agro of all the siblings at once when you have a summon in there
With no summon you can take individual attention and focus on the one that's aggro'd. The summon can speed up the first phase a bit but will get himself killed quick, and you have to be extra vigilant not to follow the aggro'd rabbit into the gangr*** going on in the center. Very viable to get them all to 50% health or so by just being cautious and picking off backstabs when they're available
@@chasebrammer851 you only get aggro from one at a time, whoever has an elemental buff - the others will still attack if you get close though, and tend to be more inclined to attack when the summon is there as he is inside their aggro range. Also the summon is WAY more viable since the patch. Before they buffed him he would be dead halfway through the first phase, now he can survive to the end if you're lucky.
This boss fight is horseshit. One mistake and you are poisoned, with a broken weapon and 3 opponents playing dirty. I got hit by all three at the same time. The combos freeze Carlo and I die.
It took me over 20 attempts to beat them the first time. I just got to this post yesterday and I'm not looking forward to it. Funny thing is though that happened on my PS5 with a motivity or strength build. On my Xbox i am running a technical or dexterity build and used the acidic crystal spear and beat him on my first try. I learned a lot in that first fight. The problem with the second is all of them being there at once. On the positive side of looks like only one real aggros to you at a time and if you get the last two to where they're able to be beaten at close to the same time you mostly do the entire bid fight one in one
Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are
Solid, solid strat. Keep the last two at relatively the same HP and make sure they are dead before the eldest, killing the little bastard first of course 😅. I was tired of getting tagged with the string from Battle Maniac so I equipped my own, focused on killing whoever spoke first, and then chipped away at the last two, even waiting for the tag in when i got too close to triggering the Eldest. I will also try no dmg. Terrible fight but gratifying if you can pull it off. I’m thinking the Deus Ex could be great for managing the last two bros and if done right, you can set a few charges around Eldest’s coffin before he emerges
have you beaten this boss with no damage? how about at level 1? are you good at lies of P? if you were, you'd know that trying to fight them straight up risks unavoidable damage due to how fast their projectiles are. Attacking is technically unsafe while more than one is alive
@@tortoise-chan i don't have the time of day to sink all of what little time I have into any game, all I'll say is I've seen people do better in comparison when play styles come into question, in short, this one is boring, not much flare to it, but I should've known that given the title, I just expected something that would wow me rather than just "this is how I did it"
Agree. So bad design. I hate this game because of Rabbits. I'm trying to do no dmg without leveling and upgrades. Full of bugs, bad mechanics, backstabs dont' work well. It's fucking nightmare. I will finish my challenge but I'll never play this game if they will release DLC or Lies of P 2. It ruined my mental health.
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the fact that doing no consumables makes this nearly a TEN MINUTE FIGHT is insane to me
Bad boss design lol
Me when I don't use all the mechanics a game provides:
@@historicflame972 throwable (limited) items shouldn’t be essential to a boss fight to make it bearable lol
@@eliwilson8242nah, just get good. I got rid of them without consumables
If you want to no hit it and dont use parries in the first phase, sure. Going for back stabs in the first phase makes it fairly quick
Coming in having JUST beaten this fight. My main advice is utilise the pillars/ bags to keep some distance and for God's sake, make sure the youngest is dead BEFORE the Eldest comes back
For the Eldest, you can cheese him by staying at the stone pillar. Just run around it, and wait for him to do red attacks to attack him. His attacks will be blocked by the stone wall.
Easier to use the sacks on the opposite side, exact same principle but you can also use flamberge over the sacks while he's throwing combos at the air
@@IconOfSin you don't hit with the flamberge from side to side of the sacks, just tried, only hits when you are almost on the same side.
@@andreacolombo7128 flamberge hits him over the sacks when you're on opposite side and none of his swings hit you, he still gets around but it's a million times easier than trying to fight him. That's with upgraded flamberge has more range
I did this because this boss was making me so mad lmao. Definitely the worst boss in Lies of P imo
8:50 you know a boss is really bad when Eso is pissed off after beating it 😂
I wouldn't even say the boss is "bad". I enjoyed it. Sure it felt really dumb at multiple points, but it also wasn't too difficult (because the three younger brothers didn't do much damage). Eso is pissed because he had to do it HITLESS. When I got to this fight, my first thought was "how the hell is he going to do this hitless"
@@TrickyTricky914 If a boss is this tedious to do hitless, I think it's not a very good fight. This boss is absolutely miserable; throwing a second phase onto a boss that's already guaranteed to take 3-5 minutes is insane.
This should have been 2 seperate fights. Give them more dmg output and a checkpoint afterwards to fight Eldest on his own. Absolute chore just to get to the Eldest to try learn his attacks only to get whomped by constant tracking red attacks. Loved the game but this was the lowest point of the whole thing for me. Also, admittedly it's not as bad as when I wrote this comment, much more tolerable after the patch since the summon can actually survive more than 30 seconds now
@@Snacks256 fair opinion honestly. While I didn’t mind the fight, yeah, I’d still rank it fairly low on a boss tier list. Maybe even last. Possibly right above the Green Monster. I had way more trouble with that one than I should have and the runback, while not that bad, was longer than it needed to be (kept getting pissed that getting hit by a single special move would affect you with decay. Ran out of the purifying ampoules many times. Had to keep doing loops to farm ergo for them. When I finally got the fight down, I still got hit with it once or twice in the second phase).
It’s not even that I disliked that boss either. It was just getting on my nerves and took me the longest out of all the bosses I’ve faced so far (the last main boss I have fought was the brotherhood pt 2).
And just because I want to vent, screw the King of Puppet’s phase 2 arm attacks (phase 2 meaning when he’s still the big puppet, but after he gains a different moveset). Even if you parry them, they push you back meaning you can’t get a follow up. Romeo wasn’t even that difficult, but getting to him was the annoying part and only having one or two pulse cells didn’t help.
@@TrickyTricky914 I would put Green Monster in top 5 maybe. It usually uses the spray attack when it's far away, so you have to let it approach you rather than rushing in during a standoff.
Romeo's fire attack is too much. Getting 3/4 through a boss fight and dying instantly because he has some Elden Ring combo is really annoying. But his attacks in general are trivially easy to dodge.
But I don't know why games still insist on using multi bosses. Sekiro has some of the best bosses ever and zero of them are anything other than 1 on 1.
maan, you made this fight look so easy... Great job
At first attempt i was like..." Oooh easy "
Later, " Oh not that easy but fine"
In third attempt.... " Oh my god!! I was getting hit left and right, front and back, roasted, electrocuted, and decayed at the same time "
First attempt always feel kinda easy for some reason. It's strange
7:18 may be the cheapest trick the devs implemented in this game, there's plenty of bosses who perform several hits before even getting staggered, BRUH...
Viktor does the same, tho, and same with the green monster, iirc. I don't think it's bs cause it gives you ample time to see the riposte mark to go away *and* get out of range or perfect parry. Might just be me, but this and the first brotherhood fights are so good, and genuinely Fromsoft and other devs should take notes cause they're gank fights that aren't "you fight two guys, they both are the same speed and aggro while 2 shotting you. Good luck!"
@@jatinmarcob2128
Victor and Green Swamp Monster did a pretty good job of pulling that "surprise attack before stunned" gimmick.
And yeah From should take notes, that being said, I think demon prince from Dark Souls 3 and shadow of yharnam from Bloodborne are better gank boss.
Rabbit Brotherhood 1st fight is good but I don't think it gives the best example of gank boss. If anything, From should take a look back on their previous works.
@@jatinmarcob2128 i went into this battle with lv9 bonecutting saw blade and 8 pulse cells, one of my favorite battles took me like 5 tries, i dont get why people hate it so much
@oredaniel how much did they pay you to say that
I know I’m little late but holy shit I never thought something worse than the godskin duo can be done.
Well you made me realized I'd been completely approaching this fight incorrectly and was getting my ass smacked because of it. Thank you for your video!!
Only fight that I summoned for. If you’re gonna gank me so am i
im currently stuck in this boss, because in this game you have 0 poise and those guys just keep hitting me faster than my character.
Then lower your equip load so you're not 'slightly heavy' or worse. No poise means you can't just face tank, lol.
They have no poise either, so I had a very good time with my long weapon. Give it a try!
way too hard stuck aswell idk what to do
@@TakerAndy Going for longer weapons helps here. I'd advise staying away from the passive brotherhood members (Getting near them causes them to attack relentlessly). Stock up on throwables and ampoules for the status effects. In phase 1, make sure NOT to get your second member kill unless the third member is also close to death, as the eldest will come out if there's only one member left. Also, make sure to tune your weapon and legion arm for the fight.
You can do this!
@@technopriest3019the npcs can face tank
Sekiro and bloodborne already did this better. Human npcs get staggered just like you
JUST LOOK AT THAT BROTHERHOOD
This would be a fair fight without the Eldest. Would be a little harder Shadows of Yharnam, basically. But no, everything has to be agony in this game. I wish I got a coin everytime he uses a bs insufferable fury attack, then I would have enough money to buy the Lies of P studio.
It's not unfair. The trick Is leaving the last 2 with Little to no health and then killing them both quickly. Once only the Eldest remains, it's Easy to deal with him with the obstacles in the arena and a mid-range weapon, legion arm or consumables
Noticing a trend with this game tho, seeing lotads of people saying its annoying. Just interesting really cuz we all seem to have the same issues.
This makes me not sleep at night
It would be great to see him upload some of his failed attempts just so we know he is not an AI :)
Broski really thinkin someone out there would code an AI to no hit bosses in a game that came out a week ago 💀💀💀
@@Grey-The-Skeleton/whoooosh
@@Trevelyan2 Brother get outta here with that shit, it's not the 1600s anymore ffs
@@Grey-The-Skeleton don’t feed the trolls don’t feed the trolls don’t feed the trolls don’t feed the trolls don’t feed the trolls …
@@Trevelyan2 Oh yea fair enough, sorry
"Accept your fate. Death has come for you."
Me : Ah good. Denial, how noble thou art .....thy arrogant as the very source for me to referee thee, I'll make sure thou feel like home, for thou have chosen death.
I know everyone hates this fight but this has probably one of the best themes in the game
But king flame said you stay here forever
Yo missing that fable attack at 7:38 would have pissed me tf off
After watching a few videos of this fight, I’m starting to think that no summon might better for this fight as I’ve realized you’ll get the agro of all the siblings at once when you have a summon in there
With no summon you can take individual attention and focus on the one that's aggro'd. The summon can speed up the first phase a bit but will get himself killed quick, and you have to be extra vigilant not to follow the aggro'd rabbit into the gangr*** going on in the center. Very viable to get them all to 50% health or so by just being cautious and picking off backstabs when they're available
Yea but it depends on the run My runs I seem to get aggro from multiple ones instead of solo I have to use summons
@@chasebrammer851 you only get aggro from one at a time, whoever has an elemental buff - the others will still attack if you get close though, and tend to be more inclined to attack when the summon is there as he is inside their aggro range.
Also the summon is WAY more viable since the patch. Before they buffed him he would be dead halfway through the first phase, now he can survive to the end if you're lucky.
@@IconOfSingood advice :)
Actually the worst opinion on the Internet imo
Nice description
Yea
Montage with master of puppets please
This boss fight is horseshit. One mistake and you are poisoned, with a broken weapon and 3 opponents playing dirty.
I got hit by all three at the same time. The combos freeze Carlo and I die.
Shadows of yharnam?
Yep
Worse
Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are
Is this the default field of view? Is there an option to increase FoV?
no, lock on changes FoV
The only thing that actually piss me off... Is that lady, she is so annoying!
What was the handle you were using
acidic crystal spear handle
Man I struggled on the other fight with them and their big brother lol
It took me over 20 attempts to beat them the first time. I just got to this post yesterday and I'm not looking forward to it. Funny thing is though that happened on my PS5 with a motivity or strength build. On my Xbox i am running a technical or dexterity build and used the acidic crystal spear and beat him on my first try. I learned a lot in that first fight.
The problem with the second is all of them being there at once. On the positive side of looks like only one real aggros to you at a time and if you get the last two to where they're able to be beaten at close to the same time you mostly do the entire bid fight one in one
Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are
Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are
Second Black Rabbit Brotherhood Fight proves how shitty the devs are
bro is mad
Nice work. This fight sucked. I absolutely loved the first go round and the way they did it. But this one was terrible.
I really liked the first fight between these four. Shame this one sucks
How anticlimactic, i was expecting some cutscene here, or even just dialog of them reacting to each other's deaths...
Solid, solid strat. Keep the last two at relatively the same HP and make sure they are dead before the eldest, killing the little bastard first of course 😅.
I was tired of getting tagged with the string from Battle Maniac so I equipped my own, focused on killing whoever spoke first, and then chipped away at the last two, even waiting for the tag in when i got too close to triggering the Eldest.
I will also try no dmg. Terrible fight but gratifying if you can pull it off.
I’m thinking the Deus Ex could be great for managing the last two bros and if done right, you can set a few charges around Eldest’s coffin before he emerges
This is unfair
Me too
Good job, these guys are annoying af
Receiving no damage is hardly a flex if you have to resort to cheesing and gimmicks while not displaying any actual skill
have you beaten this boss with no damage? how about at level 1? are you good at lies of P?
if you were, you'd know that trying to fight them straight up risks unavoidable damage due to how fast their projectiles are. Attacking is technically unsafe while more than one is alive
@@tortoise-chan i don't have the time of day to sink all of what little time I have into any game, all I'll say is I've seen people do better in comparison when play styles come into question, in short, this one is boring, not much flare to it, but I should've known that given the title, I just expected something that would wow me rather than just "this is how I did it"
he is playing safe so he doesn't die, also do you think this guy is bad at the game, he literally did all bosses no hit lol
If this game didn’t have the player NPC enemies as required bosses to pass through an area I would like the game more
These 3 are a good example
Agree. So bad design. I hate this game because of Rabbits. I'm trying to do no dmg without leveling and upgrades. Full of bugs, bad mechanics, backstabs dont' work well. It's fucking nightmare. I will finish my challenge but I'll never play this game if they will release DLC or Lies of P 2. It ruined my mental health.
skill issue
@@placeholder670 You have brain issue.
@@placeholder670 You have brain issue.
Ffs. I’ve just tried this boss 6-7 times. I get destroyed every time. 😡😡😡😡😡😡