It's the fact that Kate blamed Collin for having gum and getting gum on his bear when the adult in charge GAVE IT TO HIM. Like he was 3. He didn't know he wasn't allowed to have it.
Also - some kids get so attached to their stuffed animals (and Collin clearly was), that to treat their little friend like an object to throw away when it’s inconvenient is insensitive if not cruel! (Their aunt definitely shouldn’t have given them gum - that’s a choking hazard for young kids - but, like you said, the whole issue is on the adult!)
@@tkay7950 I think in the full episode she said she didn't actually throw the stuffed animal away but it's still messed up that she pretended she was going to. A safe adult offered him something and he took it... why wouldn't he? I'm not sure why the aunt gave them gum especially without watching them with it but with as annoying as Kate is and as much as Jody babysits them I could definitely see her doing it on purpose just to make Kate mad lol. She probably had no idea Kate would blame and be angry with the kids about it because who does that?
The fact that Mady who was, what, 7? at the time had more sense and emotional maturity handling that situation - recognizing it was an accident and that Kate's reaction was way too much, and trying to comfort and defend her little brother - is genuinely so embarrassing for Kate.
I WILL say that Jon continued hearing his children...especially when poor Collin sent him a desperate letter, written in crayon, pleading for his father to come rescue him from the institution his mother had thrown him in. He is now living with Jon (as is Hannah) and seems to be doing MUCH better than when he was with his Mom.
I think all of the kids are so cute but I've noticed since they were little Colin and Hannah both have unique eyes. I don't mean it in a bad way but I think it's always bothered Kate
I have a 3 year old boy whose teddy bear is his best friend. The part where she threw his bear away absolutely breaks my heart as a mother. My son would be heartbroken if he lost his bear.
What trips me out is how young Jon and Kate actually were. Growing up I had always thought they were in their mid to late 30s, especially since they went the fertility treatment route to have their kids. To me, that was always something older couples did after trying for years. To think that they had only tried for a few months and were in their 20s is so wild to me. I’m 29 now and can’t imagine having 8 children under the age of 10. Like..? No wonder their parenting styles were such a mess!
@@edithnackers7127Yes that’s what I love about Jon, he’s more empathetic and willing to listen to his children. Kate on the other hand is all about order and control
Can confirm that Kate was a nurse before the show started. I have a family member who worked closely with her and apparently, she was a terrible person long before she was famous lol. I also went to the same pediatric dentist as the kids and one time we were there at the same time as Kate and the twins. She cornered the dentist and talked to her for like an hour, holding up the entire office.
I watched this show when I was a kid and seeing the bear scene as a child makes me so sad. Especially since reading a psychology of children book where it says ages 1-3, kids can't feel guilt and they discouraged trying to make them feel guilt as punishment at that age because it can mess them up...
My mom used to love Kate plus Eight. Even back then, she recognized how awful Kate was to Colin. It was all about Kate controlling and intimidating the children. Colin wasn’t cowed by her. If this is what was shown, imagine what wasn’t.
I remember when i came across this on TV one day because i was bored, and my mom walked by and saw a part of the episode, and this was before ( Kate & Johns Divorce) she straight out said " they will Divorce before those kids are 6 " 😂😂😂 Even SHE knew how dysfunctional and unhappy they were as a couple 😂
You sent me into a deep dive of watching this show again 😂 I spent all week watching in disbelief that this show actually shaped my childhood lmao I swear I was like 10 watching this every day 😂 I didn’t remember Jon and Kate hating each other so much 💀
Hi Dani. I just discovered your channel last week and I am hooked. You are the only youtuber reviewing episodes of infamous TLC content and as someone who group up with the "Monday Nights are Family Nights" era, this is both nostalgic and depressing. Regardless, I love your work.
Hearing about how different Colin is when he's away from Kate just makes me sad. It's one thing to be the least favorite child, but imagine your mom's dislike for you being broadcast to the world.
Geez. Hearing that poor boy cry over his bear broke my heart. I've got 2 little ones and would never do something so cruel. I'm glad she didn't end up throwing it away, but that was awful!
"They hang out differently than I do" this took me straight tf out!!!!😂😂😂 I watched it like seven times istg! Thank you so much for these videos🫡 I cannot fathom the stress watching so much of Kate would produce🥴
I loved watching this show growing up with my Grandma. But we would discuss how NOT to be like Jon and Kate as a couple. She would talk to me about how partners should be to each other. Basically a how to not be a miserable wife or husband lol
I’m definitely very aware of how Jon may come off better just from our biased expectations for how ‘moms’ are supposed to be vs. ‘dads’ - though, I think part of why Kate comes off worse is that she tends to instigate the fights and has a clear need for control. Then again, women also tend to get stuck with extra responsibilities for managing their families, remembering important dates, etc., and that can look like being controlling - that is, one partner not doing their fair share can force the other partner into being the ‘bad guy’. I don’t know if this necessarily applies here (since Jon does clearly do a lot of the chores and kid-rearing), but that’s something to consider… 🤷♀️
It's also interesting to remember that most people don't think about them in at all anymore, I haven't thought about this family for a couple of years until this happened to pop up in my feed due to another video I watched
Why is she constantly body shaming this man? Like i don't think i ever realized it growing up but i swear shes constantly shaming him and he probably has an ED because of the way she treated him sesh.
John just looks so f&@king defeated in these episodes. You can tell he is just hanging in there for the kids… of course Kate wouldn’t let that last long. And then she was free to brainwash her kids without anyone interfering .
Dani what you said at 7:04 made me think of what the character Z from the movie “Antz” said to Princess Bala, he said “What have you got to lose? I mean think about it, so you really wanna be Mrs. Raving Lunatic?”
They did and Kate lied and said she didn’t believe in it. You can often see her with a wooden spoon in her hand while dragging her youngests to time out
I used to love this show but now I am like. I could not be Aunt Jodi. She watches thd kids a lot. I have twins and when they were babies and toddlers it was hard enyto get a babysitter for 2
You should watch outdaughterd it’s a lot like Jon and Kate plus 8 but they have only 6 kids (that are all girls). they talk about abt financial issues and not having much baby sitting options.their oldest daughter blayke is 4 at the beginning the other five girls are quintuplets Ava ,Parker ,hazel ,Olivia, and Riley it has 10 seasons and is still going in 2024
Outdaughtered sucks. All the kids are spoiled brats and Adam and Danielle are so rude, especially to the fans. They literally say that people hate on them because they're jealous of them. I hate on them because all of their kids are brats.
I do feel bad for the baby when i see him crying over the bear, I understand kates reaction, because growing up we were banned from chewing gum or eating sunflower seeds in the house. My mother would have reacted just like kate unlike my dad because she would be the one that would have to clean the dam gum out of our chlothes and hair, not my dad 😅
i dont know how old kids usually are when they start using a scooter but my 20 month old nephew tries to use his sisters scooter its adorable he cant get it to move but he does get the idea of it
I dont understand churches that send the kids off to a nursery. In Catholicism these little ones are as welcome as anyone else during Mass. They are our brothers and sisters. And they can be taught with quality parenting to be quiet in a quiet environment. It's a necessary skill.
@@Viteaification True but I wish they had the same thing in Catholic churches. If I ever went to a Catholic church, I'd make sure to have a place for my young kids to sit and learn how to behave and also have fun too.
I struggle sm with throw up and medical/surgery stuff and watched this as a kid. I’m struggling to watch you describe this last episode as an adult so Ik I hated it as a child, ick 🥴
Well I feel guilty I don’t put gas in or take out the trash :/ I could and have but my husband just does it for me!! But there are things I do he doesn’t
I found it disgusting that Jodi literally says to Joel that he looks pathetic being sick as a 3 or 4 year old. How gross are you to say such a thing when your children are sick as well and only one of them is healthy? That's gross to me.
Discipline makes your nervous? Parents who don't discipline are awful parents. Letting your kids do what they want without consequence is ridiculous. When they're little no one expects apologies to be heartfelt. You're teaching the idea on a basic level ... They learn more as they get older. But you have to start early.
sticking a kid into a corner and making them apologize as opposed to teaching them why something isn’t okay doesn’t make someone a good parent and inherently doesn’t make a person grow up to be a well equipped adult. you can literally use these kids and who they’ve all grown up to be and the relationships they do/don’t have with their parents as an example.
It's the fact that Kate blamed Collin for having gum and getting gum on his bear when the adult in charge GAVE IT TO HIM.
Like he was 3. He didn't know he wasn't allowed to have it.
Also - some kids get so attached to their stuffed animals (and Collin clearly was), that to treat their little friend like an object to throw away when it’s inconvenient is insensitive if not cruel! (Their aunt definitely shouldn’t have given them gum - that’s a choking hazard for young kids - but, like you said, the whole issue is on the adult!)
@@tkay7950 I think in the full episode she said she didn't actually throw the stuffed animal away but it's still messed up that she pretended she was going to. A safe adult offered him something and he took it... why wouldn't he? I'm not sure why the aunt gave them gum especially without watching them with it but with as annoying as Kate is and as much as Jody babysits them I could definitely see her doing it on purpose just to make Kate mad lol. She probably had no idea Kate would blame and be angry with the kids about it because who does that?
The fact that Mady who was, what, 7? at the time had more sense and emotional maturity handling that situation - recognizing it was an accident and that Kate's reaction was way too much, and trying to comfort and defend her little brother - is genuinely so embarrassing for Kate.
Even if he did know, kids do stuff they shouldn’t all the time. Kate reacts the exact way a parent shouldn’t
Kate actually threw the bear away when cameras weren't rolling Alexis mentioned it one of the seasons of Kate Plus 8.
I WILL say that Jon continued hearing his children...especially when poor Collin sent him a desperate letter, written in crayon, pleading for his father to come rescue him from the institution his mother had thrown him in. He is now living with Jon (as is Hannah) and seems to be doing MUCH better than when he was with his Mom.
I think all of the kids are so cute but I've noticed since they were little Colin and Hannah both have unique eyes. I don't mean it in a bad way but I think it's always bothered Kate
I have a 3 year old boy whose teddy bear is his best friend. The part where she threw his bear away absolutely breaks my heart as a mother. My son would be heartbroken if he lost his bear.
I feel like that’s emotional damaging to a child that small
Peanut butter gets gum out :(((
She acted like peanut butter on a Teddy bear was the literal end of the world. Talk about making mountains out of mole hills, she a psychopath
Could have just cut the gum part out of the bear toy, jeepers
At the age of 30 I would be fuming even now if my mom touched my childhood stuffy
What trips me out is how young Jon and Kate actually were. Growing up I had always thought they were in their mid to late 30s, especially since they went the fertility treatment route to have their kids. To me, that was always something older couples did after trying for years. To think that they had only tried for a few months and were in their 20s is so wild to me. I’m 29 now and can’t imagine having 8 children under the age of 10. Like..? No wonder their parenting styles were such a mess!
Kate is just a miserable person. Sure, John has his faults, but IMO Kate is 1,000x worse.
Jon shows empathy, that's the big difference for me.
@@edithnackers7127Yes that’s what I love about Jon, he’s more empathetic and willing to listen to his children. Kate on the other hand is all about order and control
kate is just a nag she whines the most out of everyone. she'll start an argument about nothing
wait throwing up on command when mad is CRAZY 😂😂😂😂
May be an anxiety thing, not so much they are mad just mislabeled anxiety.
Can confirm that Kate was a nurse before the show started. I have a family member who worked closely with her and apparently, she was a terrible person long before she was famous lol.
I also went to the same pediatric dentist as the kids and one time we were there at the same time as Kate and the twins. She cornered the dentist and talked to her for like an hour, holding up the entire office.
Why am I not surprised?
Am I correct in remembering that the pediatric dental office they went to was originally owned by Jon’s late dad, who was a peds dentist?
She seems like a total Karen
@@SoCalJellybean I think so, though I didn’t know that until Dani recently mentioned it in a video
@@SoCalJellybeanYes. It was bought out by another dentist when he passed away.
It’s weird how Kate didn’t go out with the boys she only went out with the girls
She had plenty of boys only days
Total favoritism right there! She always favored the girls, it was so obvious.
I watched this show when I was a kid and seeing the bear scene as a child makes me so sad. Especially since reading a psychology of children book where it says ages 1-3, kids can't feel guilt and they discouraged trying to make them feel guilt as punishment at that age because it can mess them up...
Makes sense. Before age 3 all that’s there is survival instinct,
Cry when something is needed,
My mom used to love Kate plus Eight. Even back then, she recognized how awful Kate was to Colin. It was all about Kate controlling and intimidating the children. Colin wasn’t cowed by her. If this is what was shown, imagine what wasn’t.
I remember when i came across this on TV one day because i was bored, and my mom walked by and saw a part of the episode, and this was before ( Kate & Johns Divorce) she straight out said " they will Divorce before those kids are 6 " 😂😂😂
Even SHE knew how dysfunctional and unhappy they were as a couple 😂
I’m actually cackling at Jon and Kate “hanging out in the kitchen talking”
I feel like Jon annoys me less because it seems like his outbursts are more rare and usually in response to Kate pushing at him. From what I recall.
I'd be snappy and angry too if I had to deal with and be married to Kate.
You sent me into a deep dive of watching this show again 😂 I spent all week watching in disbelief that this show actually shaped my childhood lmao I swear I was like 10 watching this every day 😂 I didn’t remember Jon and Kate hating each other so much 💀
@@sarahmarie3317 me too. I watched this show constantly and thought they were a great family 😳.
Hi Dani. I just discovered your channel last week and I am hooked. You are the only youtuber reviewing episodes of infamous TLC content and as someone who group up with the "Monday Nights are Family Nights" era, this is both nostalgic and depressing. Regardless, I love your work.
“No. *She* and Maddie. 🙄” omfg
Hearing about how different Colin is when he's away from Kate just makes me sad. It's one thing to be the least favorite child, but imagine your mom's dislike for you being broadcast to the world.
DEFINITELY watch Kate + 8 when you get to it. VERY telling with all the stuff with Collin at that time.
My family used to call it “Jon and Hate Plus 8” because she was so mean
How do you think aunt Jody feels 😂 ah this had me laughing so hard
Geez. Hearing that poor boy cry over his bear broke my heart. I've got 2 little ones and would never do something so cruel. I'm glad she didn't end up throwing it away, but that was awful!
"They hang out differently than I do" this took me straight tf out!!!!😂😂😂 I watched it like seven times istg! Thank you so much for these videos🫡 I cannot fathom the stress watching so much of Kate would produce🥴
I loved watching this show growing up with my Grandma. But we would discuss how NOT to be like Jon and Kate as a couple. She would talk to me about how partners should be to each other. Basically a how to not be a miserable wife or husband lol
as vile as the gum scene is, it is sweet how mady comforted colin. but alarming that a 7 or 8 y/o child has more emotional intelligence than a mother
I’m definitely very aware of how Jon may come off better just from our biased expectations for how ‘moms’ are supposed to be vs. ‘dads’ - though, I think part of why Kate comes off worse is that she tends to instigate the fights and has a clear need for control. Then again, women also tend to get stuck with extra responsibilities for managing their families, remembering important dates, etc., and that can look like being controlling - that is, one partner not doing their fair share can force the other partner into being the ‘bad guy’. I don’t know if this necessarily applies here (since Jon does clearly do a lot of the chores and kid-rearing), but that’s something to consider… 🤷♀️
I always look forward to seeing your videos Dani 🥰
It's also interesting to remember that most people don't think about them in at all anymore, I haven't thought about this family for a couple of years until this happened to pop up in my feed due to another video I watched
Why is she constantly body shaming this man? Like i don't think i ever realized it growing up but i swear shes constantly shaming him and he probably has an ED because of the way she treated him sesh.
Hey Dani, just wanna thank you for the closed caption, I have a hard time hearing. I’ve been binging your videos and the captions help so much.
I'm so happy you benefit from them! Even as a hearing person, I always prefer CC and love providing them for my viewers!!!
11:44 you gagged me
Ahahahaha oh my lanta. I thought my daughter was the only one who made herself throw up when she gets upset 😂
Love this channel so glad I discovered it! Every video is so good 🤌
John just looks so f&@king defeated in these episodes.
You can tell he is just hanging in there for the kids… of course Kate wouldn’t let that last long. And then she was free to brainwash her kids without anyone interfering .
I was just thinking about your jon and Kate series! Thanks for the vids keep it up!!!
Kate is a classic narcissist. What did she do when the cameras weren't on? What a freak!
Dani what you said at 7:04 made me think of what the character Z from the movie “Antz” said to Princess Bala, he said “What have you got to lose? I mean think about it, so you really wanna be Mrs. Raving Lunatic?”
Never stop making videos, I love this channel
I wonder if they go into the corporal punishment during the discipline episode. That shocked people when it was released via tabloids.
They did and Kate lied and said she didn’t believe in it. You can often see her with a wooden spoon in her hand while dragging her youngests to time out
If you do decided to start doing the episode of Kate +8 that would be awesome so we can see the difference that would be really cool and
awesome
Colin looks so much like the dad , that’s probably one of the reasons she dislikes him. Too sad
I can't believe how insufferable Kate is. Good God. How could anyone be ok with her behavior?
I used to love this show but now I am like. I could not be Aunt Jodi. She watches thd kids a lot. I have twins and when they were babies and toddlers it was hard enyto get a babysitter for 2
THE WAY I INSTA CLICKED
You should watch outdaughterd it’s a lot like Jon and Kate plus 8 but they have only 6 kids (that are all girls). they talk about abt financial issues and not having much baby sitting options.their oldest daughter blayke is 4 at the beginning the other five girls are quintuplets Ava ,Parker ,hazel ,Olivia, and Riley it has 10 seasons and is still going in 2024
Outdaughtered sucks. All the kids are spoiled brats and Adam and Danielle are so rude, especially to the fans. They literally say that people hate on them because they're jealous of them. I hate on them because all of their kids are brats.
Love this series! My vote is please do Kate Plus 8 as well!
Been waiting for this video aaaaa
Just found this series and so hoping you continue it!!!
I wonder if they had gotten couples counseling early on in their parenthood, maybe they would still be together?
She really needed it more though.
“It’s well known Kate doesn’t like Colin” what? 🥺🥺
Aunt Jodi had better been getting paid handsomely!
I love your recaps of all these different shows and hearing your opinions ❤
I do feel bad for the baby when i see him crying over the bear, I understand kates reaction, because growing up we were banned from chewing gum or eating sunflower seeds in the house. My mother would have reacted just like kate unlike my dad because she would be the one that would have to clean the dam gum out of our chlothes and hair, not my dad 😅
I just wanna know why they got married, and had kids😭😭 I wonder if they ever liked each other.
She is horrible.
I believe there was an episode in this season where they had a family movie night
Kate was and is a narcissist. It was obvious also that she favored Maddie, who coincidentally had Kates personality.
I don’t take out the trash, not because I can’t- I just don’t like to lol
It’s funny seeing this & then seeing the accusations that Kate & Maddie made towards Collin if you ask me Kate always had it out for him.
i dont know how old kids usually are when they start using a scooter but my 20 month old nephew tries to use his sisters scooter its adorable he cant get it to move but he does get the idea of it
I dont understand churches that send the kids off to a nursery. In Catholicism these little ones are as welcome as anyone else during Mass. They are our brothers and sisters. And they can be taught with quality parenting to be quiet in a quiet environment. It's a necessary skill.
its boring for them and church in protestant denominations can take up an entire morning. there's but so much patience a 3 year old has
I agree
@@Viteaification True but I wish they had the same thing in Catholic churches. If I ever went to a Catholic church, I'd make sure to have a place for my young kids to sit and learn how to behave and also have fun too.
He only annoys you less because you’re watching him being degraded nonstop.
1:52 am I going crazy or is the 3ds eshop loading sound effect playing in the background there
I struggle sm with throw up and medical/surgery stuff and watched this as a kid. I’m struggling to watch you describe this last episode as an adult so Ik I hated it as a child, ick 🥴
AND FOR MADY TO BE MEAN TO COLLIN IS WRONG SHE SAID HE'S THE BEHAVIOR PROBLEM CHILD IN ONE INTERVIEW
They were my neighbors i hated Kate always fucking screaming
Maddy really had some behavioral issues, I just knew she’d grow up and be a criminal or something, she was abusive but also super manipulative
Weird thing to say about a literal child. How are you beefing with a 7 year old at your big age?
16:36 why do I see a NACKED child on my screen
Well I feel guilty I don’t put gas in or take out the trash :/ I could and have but my husband just does it for me!! But there are things I do he doesn’t
I found it disgusting that Jodi literally says to Joel that he looks pathetic being sick as a 3 or 4 year old. How gross are you to say such a thing when your children are sick as well and only one of them is healthy? That's gross to me.
Discipline makes your nervous? Parents who don't discipline are awful parents. Letting your kids do what they want without consequence is ridiculous.
When they're little no one expects apologies to be heartfelt. You're teaching the idea on a basic level ... They learn more as they get older. But you have to start early.
sticking a kid into a corner and making them apologize as opposed to teaching them why something isn’t okay doesn’t make someone a good parent and inherently doesn’t make a person grow up to be a well equipped adult.
you can literally use these kids and who they’ve all grown up to be and the relationships they do/don’t have with their parents as an example.
Always irritated me that Kate pronounced it as "are life" instead of "our life."
Idk who worse John or Kate also I never wanted to grab a belt so bad these kids too much 😂
Belting 3 year olds? Grow up for fucks sake 🙄 how embarrassing a child can rile you up so bad.
Physically abusing kids isn't funny. Sorry for whatever happened to you, I hope you don't continue the cycle.
Why does Kate keep implying Jon is fat what is going ONNN