Sorry but it's almost like the pros are trying to peak for the Olympics rather than mid may. These athletes peaked for the NCAA and the pros for paris 2024. That's just how it goes
@@sev9258They’re still fast but the pros will be faster come Olympic Time. The majority of the collegiate athletes probably won’t make the Olympic team or medal at the Olympics. Maybe a few but not a lot
i just jumped 6’1 and won regionals first year jumping now i’m going to states i think i can honestly jump 6’5 love your videos keep talking about high jump and jumps in general love your vids
This isn’t anything new at all, and it definitely isn’t a problem. Of all world class 100m performances (sub 10.1 for men and 11.1 for women), less than 13% have occurred prior to May 14th, and only 13 have been sub 9.90 for the men. Compare that to June, July, and August, which make up 23%, 24%, and 26% of sub 10.10, and have 69, 52, and 76 sub 9.90 performances, respectively. We’re not even close to being in the “middle of the season” like you said. Heck, there was even snow on the ground outside my house two weeks ago.
An interesting fact: the true “middle” of the season for the men’s 100m - with 49.94% of sub 10.10 performances occurring before it - is July 5th. Though, even then, less than 40% of sub 9.90s have occurred by that point, so it could still be argued that the true middle of the season is even later, depending on the quality of performance being used as a benchmark. July 22 is the middle of season for sub 9.90 performances. It gets pushed back even further as the threshold gets raised. August 6-12 is the middle for 9.80, for example.
The pros arent at the same stage in training. College track is improving and this intandem with their earlier championship season makes them faster at the moment….until the beast come out😈
Congrats to SR Mckenzie Long for defending her SEC Title, has developed a good rivalry with FR JaMeesia Ford who equalled Allyson Felix's US U20 Record which was done at altitude in Mexico City, so that's really impressive as she goes #2 all-time on the WU20 200m list! Given her 11.13/22.21/50.81 PBs, crazy to think that next yr as a 20yr old Sophomore, could be looking at a sub 11/22/50s combo sprinter! Even if JaMeesia doesn't make the individual 200m Team @Olympic Trials, hope USATF is brave enough to select her for at least the Mixed 4x4 Pool like they rightly did with Abby in the W4x4 Pool in '22 given the amount of impressive sub 50s splits she's run this year as a Freshman! Kaylyn Brown is another quarter-miler I hope gets selected for that pool as well! Congrats Tarsis Orogot - #3 all-time NCAA with his 19.75 win, M200m is shaping up to be one of the events of the year both in the NCAA & Pros! Well done to Wanya McCoy for good performances in both 100/200m. What a W400m race; Nickisha joint #2 JAM all-time, Kaylyn #8 US all-time, Amber #3 GBR all-time & Aaliyah #24 US all-time! Arkansas also had Rosey Effiong finish in 5th place, the way her left arm cuts across her body when she runs needs to be addressed. In the M400m, both CAN & NGR have got a couple of special talents on their hands in CMW & 17yr old Samuel Ogazi respectively! Was a shame re what happened to talented all-rounder Rachel Glenn in the W400mH, been worried about something like that happening with the way Arkansas tends to overwork their athletes esp Rachel Glenn & their quarter-milers like they did Britton Wilson last yr :(
Keep up the grind, becoming one of the best T&F youtubers 💪 If Orogot can get his raw speed up to sub 10 level he can go 19.5 and challenge for medals in Paris
I hope the pros will go fast in the summer so that every month there is another hype. The summer olympics will probably will be spectacular anyways. It is true that in may 2012, 6 performances below 9.9 but that was peak sprinting. I think especially the Paris 200m will be the most historic 200m race ever. They hopefully peak at the right time
Yeah, I get the feeling we might be looking at our best chance of seeing anyone come close to Bolt's 19.19 200m time. Not saying it will happen, but many times someone like Lyles is very close, but only pushed by maybe one other sprinter. I'm hoping for a crowded final, in which multiple runners are on pace for 19.5 or better. A lot to ask for, but I'm a 200m fanatic and so, ask I will lol!
The improvements in training and specialization of events are finally going to start showing that “peak athletic age” is probably earlier than we think. 17-22
Hey I see you saw the Phoebe Gill thing I mentioned in your last video (either thst or you already knew about it lmao), love the MORE than weekly vids Jumpman!
Please don't go the Total Running Production's way (I can't bear listening to the channel anymore) clickbaiting and hyperbolic story-telling: students' season peak differently than pro's who are preparing for the Olympics, and I'm sure you know that. Your content is treasure, don't waste it!
It sucked to unsubscribe to TRP, but felt so good when I did it last year. Every post is hyperbole and clickbait. They quickly became "the boy who cried wolf" and I just expected everything to be a lie or hyped up.
@@persistentconsistency TRP also does the lamest analysis. Like learn to comment with something other than "these were the splits. wow! those are fast splits"
hahaa it will be junior pro that goes on to sink Elaine @10.54 first not a Collegiate. Next we will have high schoolers flogging @10.8's @10-7's in a basic conditioning program. The Volume of racing at college level is insane! Burn out will be massive on going issue.
I'm starting to wonder if we aren't overly-obsessed with times, maybe due to the bonuses given at DL for breaking WR and the use of wavelights and pacers in everything now except the Olympics and world champs. There's more to racing at elite level, it's not just about peaking physically, it's also about mental preparation and controlling their nerves when lining up against world record breakers and champions in the big leagues.
@@JumpmanTF But so many elite track athletes prefer ann Olympic gold medal over a win at WC or even a WR so for them at least winning the Olympics is more important than fast times now. Fans are different, we want times!
Hyping up a 10.09 lmao. I'm sure Tebogo who just ran 43.4 at world relays and broke the 300m record, Kenny Bednarek, and shericka jackson who starts racing this weekend are scared xD
Its crazy to compare a diamond league race and college race.Diamond League races are all over the world so u have to factor in jet lag a long flight were u are seated very long not ur normal bed food and so and so these are all things that can change ur performance because ur not in ur normal habitat.For these college meets they have a max of 4 hours travel time are still in the same country and timezone huge factors that determine if u go as fast or faster as in training at ur hometrack or slower
And college students train around 40+ hours of classes and study, while also travelling around the country for meets. Often training at 5am then after classes. Harder to be a student by far
@@JumpmanTF Why do the mojority of the college athletes who sign a contract after college are getting worse results in pro programs then if its harder to be a student?
@@gustaaf1892 I’ve been really skeptical of track results post pandemic because the jump in performances over the last three seasons across the board from high school to the pros feels very 1980’s
@@hovhyhov I've always been sceptical, but when during the late and post pandemic period athletes started to improve by huge margins and some in the mid 30s started to run PBs it was obvious that the virtually zero testing due to travel restrictions had given athletes licence to take PEDs at the levels that were standard in the 80s. The Tokyo men's 400mhurdles final was probably the most obvious piece of evidence of that.
They are not racing vs the Pros. How can you say they are dominating ? By comparing times ran in different events over different surfaces across different countries, climates, wind etc ? If they do the same vs Pros in a race both run together, then they are "dominating". "College kids are just better" .. its like comparing a shark and monkey and saying the monkey is better at climbing trees. Both are not doing the same thing. Unsubscribed.
Yep! Besides them being on different schedules, there is the element of true head-to-head competition, which tends to bring out the psychological factors. I remember destroying everyone in high school meets where I knew the next fastest person had a slower PR than me in an event. The confidence you gain from knowing you're supposed to win is wondrous. I'd set a PR in so many of these races. Whenever I went head-to-head with someone more my speed, it was a battle, and my times would sometimes be much slower than in less competitive races. Now, of course, not everyone is gonna perform the same in these sort of scenarios, but I am never surprised when a college athlete who, say, ran a 19.7 200m faces off against a pro who's only run 20.0 in the current season, and loses to this pro. The psychology of the sport is a really big deal.
I respect it, more so leaderboards are being dominated rn. Ik what a lot of you are saying, but im going off my intuition, i think this year is going to suprise us. Especially the mens 100m.
5:42 these 2000s kids are something else that’s all I can say lol GB building up a good 800m women stable 🫡 And she would be doing her A Levels here in the UK (she would be either Junior or Senior year HS in the USA)
Its because theyre competing for american colleges. So its assumed theyre american unless they arent. I usually mention US if its an international comp.
Sorry but it's almost like the pros are trying to peak for the Olympics rather than mid may. These athletes peaked for the NCAA and the pros for paris 2024. That's just how it goes
NCAA athletes make Olympic teams so that excuse is not that valid
Yeah but these college athletes have pretty much burnt themselves out by the conference championships and are still running qualifying times.
@@dcole4741what do they do at the Olympics? It’s mostly the pros that medal at the championships
It still doesn’t change the fact how the results are INSANE. Olympics or not!
@@sev9258They’re still fast but the pros will be faster come Olympic Time. The majority of the collegiate athletes probably won’t make the Olympic team or medal at the Olympics. Maybe a few but not a lot
this man is doing god's work for the track&field community without favoring any particular event. thank you
i just jumped 6’1 and won regionals first year jumping now i’m going to states i think i can honestly jump 6’5 love your videos keep talking about high jump and jumps in general love your vids
Congrats bro 💪
Hell yeah
King bruv!
Good luck bro! Aim for 6'6"...
@@richardtominaga8957 i will try my best i cleared 6’3 but my legs hit it which sucked
Thank you once again Jumpman for spoiling us with content , glad to see how fast you're growing after being here for a while
This isn’t anything new at all, and it definitely isn’t a problem. Of all world class 100m performances (sub 10.1 for men and 11.1 for women), less than 13% have occurred prior to May 14th, and only 13 have been sub 9.90 for the men. Compare that to June, July, and August, which make up 23%, 24%, and 26% of sub 10.10, and have 69, 52, and 76 sub 9.90 performances, respectively. We’re not even close to being in the “middle of the season” like you said. Heck, there was even snow on the ground outside my house two weeks ago.
An interesting fact: the true “middle” of the season for the men’s 100m - with 49.94% of sub 10.10 performances occurring before it - is July 5th. Though, even then, less than 40% of sub 9.90s have occurred by that point, so it could still be argued that the true middle of the season is even later, depending on the quality of performance being used as a benchmark. July 22 is the middle of season for sub 9.90 performances. It gets pushed back even further as the threshold gets raised. August 6-12 is the middle for 9.80, for example.
@@Elliottklassen Excellent post!
@@persistentconsistency Thanks!
lol at the jab at trp at the end.
Hype video once again
0:54 OH NAH 💀
You better hope Johnson doesn't see this video 😂😂
The TRP jab at the end lmaooo
All in love :)
The national 300m record for HS Boys was shattered over the weekend by Vance Nilsson, he ran 34.83 for AZ State finals.
300m hurdles to be specific
The pros arent at the same stage in training. College track is improving and this intandem with their earlier championship season makes them faster at the moment….until the beast come out😈
When it happens, you know ill be jumping ships! Hahahha
Congrats to SR Mckenzie Long for defending her SEC Title, has developed a good rivalry with FR JaMeesia Ford who equalled Allyson Felix's US U20 Record which was done at altitude in Mexico City, so that's really impressive as she goes #2 all-time on the WU20 200m list! Given her 11.13/22.21/50.81 PBs, crazy to think that next yr as a 20yr old Sophomore, could be looking at a sub 11/22/50s combo sprinter! Even if JaMeesia doesn't make the individual 200m Team @Olympic Trials, hope USATF is brave enough to select her for at least the Mixed 4x4 Pool like they rightly did with Abby in the W4x4 Pool in '22 given the amount of impressive sub 50s splits she's run this year as a Freshman! Kaylyn Brown is another quarter-miler I hope gets selected for that pool as well!
Congrats Tarsis Orogot - #3 all-time NCAA with his 19.75 win, M200m is shaping up to be one of the events of the year both in the NCAA & Pros! Well done to Wanya McCoy for good performances in both 100/200m. What a W400m race; Nickisha joint #2 JAM all-time, Kaylyn #8 US all-time, Amber #3 GBR all-time & Aaliyah #24 US all-time! Arkansas also had Rosey Effiong finish in 5th place, the way her left arm cuts across her body when she runs needs to be addressed. In the M400m, both CAN & NGR have got a couple of special talents on their hands in CMW & 17yr old Samuel Ogazi respectively! Was a shame re what happened to talented all-rounder Rachel Glenn in the W400mH, been worried about something like that happening with the way Arkansas tends to overwork their athletes esp Rachel Glenn & their quarter-milers like they did Britton Wilson last yr :(
Jump man I didn’t know you also knew Michael Johnson wasn’t hurt when he pulled up in that 150. Lol
Keep up the grind, becoming one of the best T&F youtubers 💪 If Orogot can get his raw speed up to sub 10 level he can go 19.5 and challenge for medals in Paris
They look great but the pros are gonna obliterate them at trials because the former will peak later
Love the TRP jab at the end lmao
All in love ahahha
I hope the pros will go fast in the summer so that every month there is another hype. The summer olympics will probably will be spectacular anyways. It is true that in may 2012, 6 performances below 9.9 but that was peak sprinting. I think especially the Paris 200m will be the most historic 200m race ever. They hopefully peak at the right time
Yeah, I get the feeling we might be looking at our best chance of seeing anyone come close to Bolt's 19.19 200m time. Not saying it will happen, but many times someone like Lyles is very close, but only pushed by maybe one other sprinter. I'm hoping for a crowded final, in which multiple runners are on pace for 19.5 or better. A lot to ask for, but I'm a 200m fanatic and so, ask I will lol!
Your content is the best bro 👊🏼
5:13 I said wtf at exactly the same time hahaha 9.88 is astonishing
The improvements in training and specialization of events are finally going to start showing that “peak athletic age” is probably earlier than we think. 17-22
Heck, high school sprinters like Christian Miller are starting to dominate the pros as well.
all i have to say is DAMN SON
Hey I see you saw the Phoebe Gill thing I mentioned in your last video (either thst or you already knew about it lmao), love the MORE than weekly vids Jumpman!
I saw it in a few places haha. Hard for a result like that not to get atttention!
@@JumpmanTF Of course! Can’t wait for this weeks video!
Pulled a Michael Johnson, but was actually hurt. 🤣🤣🤣
Godson Oghenebrune is him, the name said it all
Lol did you know the college season and pro season run at different times?
Did you know its mid may and a high schooler still has the 100m world lead? No excuses.
SMH didn't even mention the 9.98 out of the Mac conference meet
Please don't go the Total Running Production's way (I can't bear listening to the channel anymore) clickbaiting and hyperbolic story-telling: students' season peak differently than pro's who are preparing for the Olympics, and I'm sure you know that. Your content is treasure, don't waste it!
6:08
It sucked to unsubscribe to TRP, but felt so good when I did it last year. Every post is hyperbole and clickbait. They quickly became "the boy who cried wolf" and I just expected everything to be a lie or hyped up.
@@persistentconsistency TRP also does the lamest analysis. Like learn to comment with something other than "these were the splits. wow! those are fast splits"
@@pugsnhogz Hahaha! They really do think breaking down splits makes them top-tier detectives haha!
@@persistentconsistency Yeh and that's unfortunate because otherwise the content and the quality is great. But as you, I coudn't stand it anymore.
hahaa it will be junior pro that goes on to sink Elaine @10.54 first not a Collegiate. Next we will have high schoolers flogging @10.8's @10-7's in a basic conditioning program. The Volume of racing at college level is insane! Burn out will be massive on going issue.
i know you saw vance nillson 34 in the 300 hurdles
I'm starting to wonder if we aren't overly-obsessed with times, maybe due to the bonuses given at DL for breaking WR and the use of wavelights and pacers in everything now except the Olympics and world champs. There's more to racing at elite level, it's not just about peaking physically, it's also about mental preparation and controlling their nerves when lining up against world record breakers and champions in the big leagues.
A little, but unlike other sports, thats kind of what track is about. Its a numbers game.
@@JumpmanTF But so many elite track athletes prefer ann Olympic gold medal over a win at WC or even a WR so for them at least winning the Olympics is more important than fast times now. Fans are different, we want times!
Hyping up a 10.09 lmao. I'm sure Tebogo who just ran 43.4 at world relays and broke the 300m record, Kenny Bednarek, and shericka jackson who starts racing this weekend are scared xD
10.09 by a student with literally 0 money backing him? Thats most countries 100m national records.
Its crazy to compare a diamond league race and college race.Diamond League races are all over the world so u have to factor in jet lag a long flight were u are seated very long not ur normal bed food and so and so these are all things that can change ur performance because ur not in ur normal habitat.For these college meets they have a max of 4 hours travel time are still in the same country and timezone huge factors that determine if u go as fast or faster as in training at ur hometrack or slower
And college students train around 40+ hours of classes and study, while also travelling around the country for meets. Often training at 5am then after classes. Harder to be a student by far
@@JumpmanTF Why do the mojority of the college athletes who sign a contract after college are getting worse results in pro programs then if its harder to be a student?
@@JumpmanTF also the studying and there classes are put to there liking so they can train when its best for them
We not gon talk about 2.30 in the big 10 championships???
Pro track athletes don't get paid enough which is why many college athletes can compete.
Why is it "a problem"? its interesting, but?
“Cusa” 💀💀💀, just so you know that’s the Conference USA, people usually say C USA when talking about it
Haha cheers, still learning. ncaa so confusing for someone not from the us haha.
@@JumpmanTF haha no worries, I’m from here and have no idea what any of the conferences that aren’t like the top 10 are
Go college athletes. Big pay coming soon.
one word....Performance Enhancing Drugs.
When is one of them women going to figure out they can run faster without 3 pounds of hair bouncing around on their head?
Then we most get to the US trails they get smoked and dont run anywhere near these times.
Different this time i rekon. Ill be keeping count.
The College athletes will be worn out and peaked before the Olympics they rarely make it into the finals at the Olympics
While true, i feel its a special year :)
do they drug test in college?
Haha, that did occur to me as well when I wondered at what age they go on the gear.
@@gustaaf1892 I’ve been really skeptical of track results post pandemic because the jump in performances over the last three seasons across the board from high school to the pros feels very 1980’s
@@hovhyhov I've always been sceptical, but when during the late and post pandemic period athletes started to improve by huge margins and some in the mid 30s started to run PBs it was obvious that the virtually zero testing due to travel restrictions had given athletes licence to take PEDs at the levels that were standard in the 80s. The Tokyo men's 400mhurdles final was probably the most obvious piece of evidence of that.
They are not racing vs the Pros. How can you say they are dominating ? By comparing times ran in different events over different surfaces across different countries, climates, wind etc ?
If they do the same vs Pros in a race both run together, then they are "dominating".
"College kids are just better" .. its like comparing a shark and monkey and saying the monkey is better at climbing trees. Both are not doing the same thing.
Unsubscribed.
Yep! Besides them being on different schedules, there is the element of true head-to-head competition, which tends to bring out the psychological factors. I remember destroying everyone in high school meets where I knew the next fastest person had a slower PR than me in an event. The confidence you gain from knowing you're supposed to win is wondrous. I'd set a PR in so many of these races. Whenever I went head-to-head with someone more my speed, it was a battle, and my times would sometimes be much slower than in less competitive races.
Now, of course, not everyone is gonna perform the same in these sort of scenarios, but I am never surprised when a college athlete who, say, ran a 19.7 200m faces off against a pro who's only run 20.0 in the current season, and loses to this pro. The psychology of the sport is a really big deal.
I respect it, more so leaderboards are being dominated rn.
Ik what a lot of you are saying, but im going off my intuition, i think this year is going to suprise us. Especially the mens 100m.
let's be honest 💉💉
5:42 these 2000s kids are something else that’s all I can say lol
GB building up a good 800m women stable 🫡
And she would be doing her A Levels here in the UK (she would be either Junior or Senior year HS in the USA)
It's funny how the only time this guy states a runner's nationality is when the runner is NOT American.
Its because theyre competing for american colleges. So its assumed theyre american unless they arent. I usually mention US if its an international comp.