The truth is that the 16megapixel sensors were great, I have plenty of awesome night pics shot with my (now sold) em10.2; the lower pixel count in low light becomes a blessing
If you hate carrying a heavy tripod with you, make a small bean sack. You need bean, a piece of cloth, a needle and thread. Mine has cca. 40dkg beans in it. You can use almost every vertical or horizontal surface. Push the bean sack to the surface, and your camera to the bean sack and the magic starts. My EM-10 II and bean sack work perfectly in low light.
After 30 years in photography (professionally) I can 100% agree with everything you have said regarding low-light photography . A superb video on the subject.
Love the blind test :) I was surprised I picked the EM5 every single time! I'm clearly a fan of vibrant warm rather than colder blue tones straight out of camera.
A modern proverb I heard somewhere on a photo blog: "Amatures worry about sensor and the newest camera body, pros worry about galss, but masters only think about how to add lighting".
When you see how well the EM5 did... just shows you can have some serious photography power for not a lot of money. Arguably the it's one of the best times to get into Photography.
Honestly, the volume of useful information with examples is amazing. It blows many photographers' value versus fluff ratios completely away - even though they have 1M+ subscribers.
This was an excellent video. I've literally shot thousands of photographs, at night (or indoors under low light) with both of those cameras, and won a few awards with both. You're absolutely right in that the E-M5 mk1 can capture some amazing low light images. But, if you are planning on printing anything larger than 11x14," noise begins to be noticeable around ISO 1600 on the E-M5; the OM-1 delivers about the same amount of noise somewhere between ISO 3200-6400, plus, the dynamic range has been improved quite a bit. Also, the in-body image stabilization is markedly better on the OM-1, allowing for longer exposures without noticeable blurring from hand shake--something which can be critical with street photography when you're trying to snag something which has suddenly happened. But the most critical advance made with the OM-1 over the E-M5 mk1, is the speed and accuracy of the autofocus in low light. Unfortunately, I can't rely on my own eyes to manually focus a shot any more, so I must rely on whatever camera's autofocus capabilities that I'm using. In low light, the original E-M5 was often painfully slow to focus when the light was really dim. The OM-1 is in a different league all together in this regard. I'm grateful that I can afford the OM-1 (though I'm not burdened with your hefty VAT), but someone with less means could do very well with a good minimally used E-M5 mk1, shooting at night with the right lens--I did. BTW, the P/L 25mm f/1.4 was my go-to lens on that camera as well.
great one again! special thanks for the rain framerates! On holding your breath: As a former singer (can prove it: search for my name and "sound of silence" - since you quoted that song :) i got aware that i intuitively hold my breath to stand still. it reduces the shakes but can cause some jitter. instead i tried it the singer-way: let the exhalation release the action you might get a bit more "slow flowing wobble" but less jitter: 1. breath normally till you "know what you are after", then 2. inhale deeply and aware of the fresh air you have now 3. your body will initiate exhale at an optimum 4. ask your lungs to press the shutter 5. watch and marvel It is always shocking how confident this body is if "I don't MIND"
This wasn't really the question you asked, but I just went for the pics I liked best out of the two choices. Each time I preferred the EM5 bar one. I did attempt one guess as to which was the OM1. I got that wrong 😅 Great pics, tips and of course great video 😊
Me too, At some point I just knew and accepted, that I prefer the 200€ camera pictures. Not for the nostalgic feeling, but because I thought they were better looking (mostly), at least in a youtube video. I'm sure if I looked at the RAWs and tried to process them, I'd prefer the newer model.
Fantastic video - I love a good "guess which is which" video! and I got most of them wrong! 😂 Definitely thought the older camera had better colours and was warmer. I also really liked your edits - I think that made all the pictures really shine!
Tip 5 for handheld .. multishot. It’s a variation on the two second timer, but is generally useful for when the shutter speed drops lower. I always shoot with it enabled. If each shot is delayed more than usual, this is a handy prompt that the shutter speed is low.
I thought I guessed them right, but after the first half of the video, things changed and couldn’t tell which was which properly. Awesome challenge, would love to see more of them!
Excellent vid, thanks. As an ex squaddie, I use 'firing positions' such as kneeling or squatting. Another tip which compliments your 'hold your breath' is to hold your breath between breaths. If you notice, between breaths there's a pause before you breath in again; that's the point to hold your breath. That would also be the point where you fire your rifle, but also works with depressing your shutter release button. Love your two-second timer tip; never thought of that one.
A friendly correction: do not click and then hold your breath. First hold your breath, and a few counts in gently click. Have been pushing the limits of hand-held long exposures all my life (I'm 70 now!) and one of my famed specialties is hand-held shots down to 1/8th sec with success. Great stuff on your channel!
Good video. I have the EM5 from 2012 and in 2022 i bought the EM1 MarkIII. The quality in the EM1 Mark III is very good . The only thing that i like in EM5 more in the EM1 MarkIII is the tilted screen.
Just to say thank you for very helpful videos, including this one. As I struggle to sleep at night, I use the time to watch videos, and yours are always illuminating and pleasant to watch. Thanks!
At the scale of Social Media it's always difficult to tell. It always seems to come down to what the intented use for the images are. While I could pick out the right camera in most of your shots, I am certain that the RAW image, enlarged for printing would really show the difference. Once again, your point is well made. Buy cheap, have fun and unless you're selling beautiful hi res landscape photos or doing product photography it won't matter. There's something for everyone nowadays. It would be interesting to start one's YT channel with as inexpensive camera as possible and succeed because of your personality and what you have to say to the world. Your videos and professionalism have increased exponentially in quality over the past year or so. Don't stop. Thanks.
When shooting in low light learn to “spot meter” on the bright areas and dial those highlights back appropriately… -1/3 to -2 letting the shadows go black… after all you are shooting in the dark! Also, all of my MFT cameras are from 2014-2018, I don’t shoot birds in flight, so I see NO reason to upgrade. Not surprised at your results, the image quality I get from the 2014-2018 cameras is sooooo much better than my film days. I tend to use my smaller MFT cameras (i.e. Pen-F) more than my larger MFT cameras.
Really enjoyed that, I consistently got it wrong every single time. Preferred the look of the cheaper camera in every comparison. Guess there's no need for me to be buying an expensive camera any time soon.
if you know what to look for it's not hard to pick out which was which. I suppose that if I didn't have the better photo to compare against, the em5 would be good enough. is anyone else wondering what the tower had to smile about at 2:47?
I am an owner of em10. In terms of picture quality I don't see a huge difference on om1 and g9 II. I am quite curious though about upgrading and currently deciding between those two. On one side I like working with raw files on OM and their computational abilities, but I prefer video quality and luts on g9 II. Can't decide, because both of them suffer from same thing: noise, washed out colours and mush instead of image when it comes to shooting in low light. I guess, I'm just afraid of being disappointed in the end, because it's quite a lot of money for me 😢
I get what you mean!! Neither will set the world alight with low light performance, but having used both the OM1 and G9ii on safari in challenging light and high shutter speeds, I have found the g9ii to be a bit better in low light. I don't know if it's a pay-off of the super fast stacked sensor in the OM1, but I did find some of the OM1 images a bit more grainy and muddy. I could pull back the g9ii images a lot more. But as I say: neither is perfect in this regard! The g9ii sensor is the best I've used in low light on m43, for what that is worth haha
Two things: Completely agree with the breathing tip. My photographer friends are always arguing about whether clicking at breath in or breath out (I’m a breath out type of clicker). Also love your MMPR/Sentai collection. Incredible stuff!
Hi, great video, I almost always went for the cheapest camera 😅 I'm in the process of buying my first camera and I need your help. Would you choose the Olympus OMD 5 over the Lumix G80? I'll be doing photo and video (occasionally).
That was awesome and extremely informative. Was contemplating upgrading my SL3 to the R series but I figured out there's still life in my lady. It all ends up to clever shooting and Lightroom.
IBIS easily makes up for more than anything else for this, more than you can afford for aperture, more than crop vs large, more than wide angle, anything. (maybe not all those combined). It's flipping amazing, I can take 1/2 second or if I do a burst sometimes 1s exposures handheld (with all those stability techniques). Absolutely bonkers.
I have the Em5 and the Sony A7III the image difference is staggering when used in an environment like a pub or music event. But during the day it’s not that much different ❤ m4/3 are lighter and easier to carry around + the colours the Oly makes are smoother and more pleasing.
Nice video. Though to me is more about inprovements in AF rather than quality. I have the EM5 mark II, and it suffices in terms of IQ. However tracking my 2yo kid its quite challenging. Why not making the om5 with same specs as om1 but with lighter classy body? It looks as if the new om5 is alteady old in terms of tech… would it worth to upgrade?
This was a great vid. I guessed wrong most of the time. I think because it _looked_ like the OM5 was dealing better with blown-out highlights. I use a 10+ year old camera mostly, so this was a good reminder. I consider myself quite well versed in camera technique knowledge (whether or not I always apply it in the moment) but you taught me a couple of things I didn't know.
I think color handling has probably changed a lot. The OM-1 is slightly more blue-biased compared to previous models. I can tell that when compared to my Panasonic G7. Though it's not terrible. It also depends on the lighting and how the auto white balance adapts. In raw, it isn't really an issue. Though I tend to prefer jpegs out of camera.
@@Paul_anderson_creative Most raw processing engines, whether Lightroom, DXO, CaptureOne, etc., will read the info from the file and honor the basic color profile and white balance unless you opt to change it. Not to mention, each sensor and software in a camera can produce different potential in their raw files. So color science exists.
As for the test, I couldn’t find one that I preferred over the other! I have an E-M1 and an E-M10 mk2 and I love them, so that might be why 😅 great video for alleviating GAS during the barrage of sales during Black Friday/November
I drift around UA-cam watching photography professionals, you managed to keep my attention to the end of the video 👍 very informative and well presented.
Great video! I appreciate the detailed comparison between the EM5 and OM1. also, I had no idea webcams could be this exciting. The Obsbot Tiny Two sounds like a fantastic addition to any content creator's toolkit:)
Using the viewfinder is a much stabler position for handheld in low light. I've found not holding my breath, but breathing out as I take the photo is good for avoiding camera shake. The other thing I do when doing handheld shots at night is set my camera to a high frame rate and take a burst of photos and I usually will get a few which don't have shake. However what you can get with a tripod and low iso at night is always much better. Actually often I shoot at night with a high-end point and shoot (like Nikon P series or Canon G series) and a light weight tripod and get very good results.
Ok, so I picked the wrong camera most (not all) of the time AND often preferred the EM5. That surprised me, but then I realized effectively what you said…’most cameras for the last many years can produce wonderful photos’…I would add you just need someone who knows how to use it! Just another tool! Nice job Emily..wonder if the Mk111 would have worked much the same as the Mk1. Loved the Star Trek reference btw…And to close a quote from the Matrix (aligns with all the great tips you provided here) : “ I Can Only Show You The Door. You're The One That Has To Walk Through It."
I printed a picture of the EM5 and taped it to my desk until several paydays later I bought this camera the year it was launched only in black because silver was sold out. It has been with me to Canada,Japan, Singapore across the Usa and in the Philippines in all kinds of weather from freezing to hard rains and salt water beaches. Weather sealed easily rinsed off with the WR lens and Even now that I own numerous other Brands from Fuji, Canon, Pentax, Sony and Lumix I still to this day if just running out the door Grab my Trusty friend Olympus EM5 without hesitation knowing I can get both beautiful photos and stabilisation for video. I'm not a one camera does all believer if you can afford other cameras more specialised for specific tasks but if I could only afford one camera to sufficiently do everything this one would be it. I also own the EPL5 and an electronic viewfinder added and picture/video quality is identical. But the view finder cost me as much as a used camera so its a great camera if using the back screen only making it a steal on the used market. Plus MFT lenses fit any MFT camera even the ones from china. I've watched your videos from the first one you ever posted and love that your not prideful you've remained a lovely person and a joy to view
Based on your great little video on your EM5, I went looking for an OM-D bargain as an everyday carry. I've just bought an E-M10 ii plus two lenses for under £350! (the extra lens was a bonus). After this video, I can't wait to go out and have some fun.
Hello. Instead of holding your breath while inhaling, it is better to exhale slowly and press down at the end of the exhale. Inspiration increases the heart rate, exhalation decreases it. These are shooting techniques. The best is to exhale slowly, and wait between 2 beats to trigger.
Nice comparison and a real eye opener! I have the E-M5 Mk I and Mk III models. Have to admit, I probably wouldn't be able to tell the two apart in a blind test either. So why did I guy the Mk III? Sucked in by the allure of the 20MP sensor. But I still much prefer the lovely magnesium alloy feel of the Mk I over the plastic Mk III.
Pretty consistently picked the EM5, very surprised! Great video. Goes to show how much is down to how you use the tools you have and not how expensive or cutting edge they happen to be.
Nicely done! You've really illustrated how it's how you use the camera than how great the specs are in cameras! This really supports the notion of spending on glass rather than bodies when GAS hits!
Great video Emily, both cameras are capable of great shots. What matters more is subject, composition and "soul" of the image. As Cartier-Bresson said "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept”. I'd much rather look at a less than sharp image that makes me feel something than a tac-sharp ultimately boring or cliché photo.
Great video. Thanks, Emily. The points you made get talked about a lot, but are rarely demonstrated. That said, the OM1 clearly made better final images, but it was good to see the EM5mk1 holding its own. But I'm sure the OM1's RAWs provided quite a bit more latitude for postprocessing, which is important in its own way.
i really liked the EM5's Photos, heck i would even take them over my old 250D from Canon! it really "Shines" in the Competition and once again shows how good old and now affordable Cameras are still holding up...
I learned tonight that I'm keeping my E-M5. Its files look similar enough to the new camera that I feel like I don't need to drop two grand on the new body, versus using the money for lenses. Truthfully, the biggest shooting difference is the 2022 EVF vs the 2012 EVF. Great comparison, thank you!!
Another tip for hand-held long exposures, set to high-speed burst and hold the shutter down for a bit. Then in post you can select whichever of the 10 frames was sharpest - even if you're moving a bit, usually there'll be a couple that are sharp, and because you're holding the shutter most of the images won't be affected by the movement of your finger.
A friend told me to watch your videos after wanting to get into more budget friendly photography (I shot on Sony Full frame until recently, which I sold recently for funding another hobby) and honestly this is a fantastic channel. Very well delivered content! Thank you! Subscribed 😁
Your pace is great, really friendly and charming. I'd like to add than when in doubt, just shot another one, slightly different. 10 Times less money invested on a piece on machinery is 9 times more money invested in humankind ;) Regards from Argentina
Some great practical tips! Another thing I think can be useful to remember is that “small” sensor cameras should be operated at smaller numerical f-stops than “large” sensor cameras to obtain the same depth of field. This means that when taking a night scene, for example, a micro 4/3 camera will be operating at two stops lower ISO than a full frame camera. This is why sensor size has very little effect on practical low light noise performance. However, larger sensors are still better at dealing with scenes with high dynamic ranges - common in night scenes - and will require less careful exposure to avoid blown out highlights etc. Of course it’s all about creativity and skill, but nevertheless understanding these things are important in translating mere settings into how an image ultimately looks.
The EM5 I was just the thing when I wanted an inexpensive mirrorless. Still selling for about $200, it's a terrific value and a very solid performer. I'm planning on acquiring an EM1 II one of these days (c $500), but cannot justify the cost of the new OM1.
Thanks Emily, good advice. I used to have gear envy and would listen to influencers who would extol a new camera model that was "100% faster focusing" or "Has amazing improved ISO performance." Sadly, I would sometimes purchase said camera only to find that it was only slightly better in both areas than my previous camera. Lesson learned. There are certain times when I use my giant pro-level DSLR (yes, I still have a DSLR), but generally, a small camera does the trick for me. As an aside I was at a friend's birthday party in a dark restaurant. I took a shot with my iPhone (no flash) and even that gadget produced a very nice photo.
i got about half of it right, and my main camera is an OM-1 :D just shows that the person and the skill is much more important than the equipment itself!
Then you have the other aspect, Emily:When you actually don’t have two different pictures of the identical scene to compare with each other, the one you show as perhaps being the lesser shot actually is fine! Right?😊 and to tell you the truth, I kept making the wrong choice: I kept choosing the OM 5 as the OM 1 shot!
This is the best video that I have found on this topic. (you nailed it) I'm jumping into the photography and videography game for next summer. I don't have much experience but am confident that I will grow into it on time for my 30,000 island trip in September. My first search was at a second hand store. I have been checking out Canon Rebels T3, T7 and T7i for $199C, $399C with lens and $399C with no lens respectively. Any one have some thoughts to share? Thanks from Ontario Canada.
Great low light tips, framed in an interesting comparison of the two cameras. (I could mostly guess which was which, but the quality of the low priced camera was quite good.)
Great video. Makes me and my brand new camera feel a bit silly. You’re an inspiration. love your photographs no matter what camera you shoot, however expensive, or dinky, or spray painted.
I’m late to respond, but in a lot of cases I preferred the E-M1 over the OM1. In a transitional switch from Canon FF DSLR where I opted to go with f4 ”L” lenses to reduce lens size I purchased a well underused E-M1. After happily using the E-M1 for a time, along side the Canon, I decided to sell all of the Canon gear and the E-M1 and pick up an E-M1 Mk III. My only regret was not keeping the E-M1 body that I used to qualify my switch. I might add that I do use HR mode for static product photography. It performs brilliantly. When I make prints, I’m rarely disappointed and if I am it’s usually a fault of my own doing.
when I started with micro four thirds, I read that you should buy the cheapest body as they all have the same sensor. Buying an e-pm2 held me back compared to the OM-1.
This was a great video. I was able to tell all but 2 images you provided that was from the cheaper and the more expensive camera. TThe two that was missed was from missed/out of focusing. The dynamic range of the newer camera is very noticeable (in RAW of course), although in your edits, the sharpness made the difference since it was very noticeable between the two. But with that said, most people are not looking at photos on a large screen nor do they have them blown up and displayed on the wall. Everything looks great on a small screen. So, a cheap $200 camera is more than enough. Most people even ditched the camera altogether and rely on their camera phones, who now have crazy low f-stops. But as you said, its fun and there is no real need for the most expensive gear if you learn the proper fundamentals in shooting. Great advice and looking forward to more. You have a new subscriber!!
I've owned two em5 OG. moved on, upgraded, even moved to canon ff. I look back at my old photos and just feel like I miss that camera and the images it made. It wasn't prefect, but it had a nice character in the images.
The higher dynamic range makes a visible difference. I once did a low-light shoot with E-M5II (mine) and E-M1II (borrowed), and not only resolution/detail and noise were visibly different - but especially highlight-retention was much better with the E-M1II (an all-around capable camera, so I would possibly look for a used one if I'll need a new camera). YT can't show it, but watching full-screen on a 4K display already does (no pixel-peeping necessary, not for the noise, not for the highlight retention, maybe for resolution/detail).
Great points! Thanks for highlighting the sensor size debate. I have a TG5 that has been accused of being my Somy Full frame. 😅. And I secretly shoot APSC sometimes . Thanks again.
Subscribed! 😊 Now I'm curious about Olympus cameras, the oldest most used camera that I own was the fujifilm xt1. Couldn't agree more with you, your knowledge as a photographer comes first and the rest comes second.
This is a great kind of question to ask. One potential difficulty here, though, is simply that these images are significantly reduced in size to fit in a video frame (or, when viewing side-by-side, half of one) and then on top of that compressed into a lossy video codec for UA-cam. And then resized again during playback to fit in whatever portion of whatever screen is being used to view them. It's a neat side-by-side thing to compare, but evaluating stills in a video is really difficult to do effectively because so much data is lost, and in particular resizing downward from original resolution is going to cut back on the visible noise. Would be interesting to see the original shots posted as jpegs on a web page rather than in a video, which would make for a much more clear comparison.
I got more right, than I expected. There is a difference, it's just very expensive to get those tiny bit better results. I shoot concert photography indoors in a dark venue where flash is prohibited every couple of months with micro 4/3 gear. High ISO is unavoidable - especially for the photos of the guests, who are sitting or standing in really murky light conditions. But, I have made it work so far. Next time, I'll be bringing an E-M5 iii (mostly with a 45mm f1.8 lens) for the first time, and I worry quite a bit, if it can perform as well as my GX8. Anyway, I found your video very interesting. Low light photography is always challenging - especially since I only use free software to edit my photos, and it just isn't that good at dealing with high ISO noise. But, that's the deal as a happy amateur.
If you're using an Olympus body you may be able to use the AI Noise Reduction add-on for the (free) OM Workspace software. You'll need to check that your camera hardware is supported but if it is, try it.
@@ianparr1533 The E-M5 iii is indeed supported by the AI Noise Reduction in OM Workspace. I hope it will make up for the low auto ISO compared the GX8, but I have my doubts.
The image quality was a lot close than I thought it would be! Do you have any low light photography tips that I might have missed?
What is the software you use to edit the pictures in this video?
@@elzafir just Adobe Lightroom 😊
@@MicroFourNerds noted
The truth is that the 16megapixel sensors were great, I have plenty of awesome night pics shot with my (now sold) em10.2; the lower pixel count in low light becomes a blessing
If you hate carrying a heavy tripod with you, make a small bean sack. You need bean, a piece of cloth, a needle and thread. Mine has cca. 40dkg beans in it. You can use almost every vertical or horizontal surface. Push the bean sack to the surface, and your camera to the bean sack and the magic starts. My EM-10 II and bean sack work perfectly in low light.
"Buy cheap cameras and go and have fun" that's the best advise in all of the internet.
After 30 years in photography (professionally) I can 100% agree with everything you have said regarding low-light
photography . A superb video on the subject.
Love the blind test :) I was surprised I picked the EM5 every single time! I'm clearly a fan of vibrant warm rather than colder blue tones straight out of camera.
Same here: every single time
Me too, and I have the OM1…🤣
Same. Preferred every time!
I feel like the OG EM5 is one of those special cameras like the Leica M9
E-M5 has by default setting enabled "Keep warm colors" that can be found in White Balance settings.
Disable that and you get WB set to neutral white.
A modern proverb I heard somewhere on a photo blog: "Amatures worry about sensor and the newest camera body, pros worry about galss, but masters only think about how to add lighting".
“Hello Darkness, My old Friend” Nice musical link 😂😂😂
When you see how well the EM5 did... just shows you can have some serious photography power for not a lot of money. Arguably the it's one of the best times to get into Photography.
Honestly, the volume of useful information with examples is amazing. It blows many photographers' value versus fluff ratios completely away - even though they have 1M+ subscribers.
This was an excellent video. I've literally shot thousands of photographs, at night (or indoors under low light) with both of those cameras, and won a few awards with both. You're absolutely right in that the E-M5 mk1 can capture some amazing low light images. But, if you are planning on printing anything larger than 11x14," noise begins to be noticeable around ISO 1600 on the E-M5; the OM-1 delivers about the same amount of noise somewhere between ISO 3200-6400, plus, the dynamic range has been improved quite a bit. Also, the in-body image stabilization is markedly better on the OM-1, allowing for longer exposures without noticeable blurring from hand shake--something which can be critical with street photography when you're trying to snag something which has suddenly happened. But the most critical advance made with the OM-1 over the E-M5 mk1, is the speed and accuracy of the autofocus in low light. Unfortunately, I can't rely on my own eyes to manually focus a shot any more, so I must rely on whatever camera's autofocus capabilities that I'm using. In low light, the original E-M5 was often painfully slow to focus when the light was really dim. The OM-1 is in a different league all together in this regard. I'm grateful that I can afford the OM-1 (though I'm not burdened with your hefty VAT), but someone with less means could do very well with a good minimally used E-M5 mk1, shooting at night with the right lens--I did. BTW, the P/L 25mm f/1.4 was my go-to lens on that camera as well.
great one again!
special thanks for the rain framerates!
On holding your breath: As a former singer (can prove it: search for my name and "sound of silence" - since you quoted that song :) i got aware that i intuitively hold my breath to stand still. it reduces the shakes but can cause some jitter. instead i tried it the singer-way: let the exhalation release the action
you might get a bit more "slow flowing wobble" but less jitter:
1. breath normally till you "know what you are after", then
2. inhale deeply and aware of the fresh air you have now
3. your body will initiate exhale at an optimum
4. ask your lungs to press the shutter
5. watch and marvel
It is always shocking how confident this body is if "I don't MIND"
Loved the Liverpool shots ❤ Hits different, coz I've been to the city myself. Crazy but lovely city indeed 🎉
I randomly clicked on this. The rain tip alone was worth the view, very nice, something I'll remember.
This wasn't really the question you asked, but I just went for the pics I liked best out of the two choices. Each time I preferred the EM5 bar one. I did attempt one guess as to which was the OM1. I got that wrong 😅 Great pics, tips and of course great video 😊
Hmm! Thats actually a really interesting point! Is there something inherently more pleasing (maybe nostalgic?) About the older images !
Me too, At some point I just knew and accepted, that I prefer the 200€ camera pictures. Not for the nostalgic feeling, but because I thought they were better looking (mostly), at least in a youtube video. I'm sure if I looked at the RAWs and tried to process them, I'd prefer the newer model.
The OM1 had better highlight detail and colour rendition.
Fantastic video - I love a good "guess which is which" video! and I got most of them wrong! 😂 Definitely thought the older camera had better colours and was warmer. I also really liked your edits - I think that made all the pictures really shine!
Can't watch this vid without appreciating how well you know the ins and outs of your autofocus! Great work!
Tip 5 for handheld .. multishot. It’s a variation on the two second timer, but is generally useful for when the shutter speed drops lower. I always shoot with it enabled. If each shot is delayed more than usual, this is a handy prompt that the shutter speed is low.
I thought I guessed them right, but after the first half of the video, things changed and couldn’t tell which was which properly. Awesome challenge, would love to see more of them!
Excellent vid, thanks. As an ex squaddie, I use 'firing positions' such as kneeling or squatting. Another tip which compliments your 'hold your breath' is to hold your breath between breaths. If you notice, between breaths there's a pause before you breath in again; that's the point to hold your breath. That would also be the point where you fire your rifle, but also works with depressing your shutter release button.
Love your two-second timer tip; never thought of that one.
A friendly correction: do not click and then hold your breath. First hold your breath, and a few counts in gently click. Have been pushing the limits of hand-held long exposures all my life (I'm 70 now!) and one of my famed specialties is hand-held shots down to 1/8th sec with success. Great stuff on your channel!
Good video. I have the EM5 from 2012 and in 2022 i bought the EM1 MarkIII. The quality in the EM1 Mark III is very good . The only thing that i like in EM5 more in the EM1 MarkIII is the tilted screen.
Just to say thank you for very helpful videos, including this one. As I struggle to sleep at night, I use the time to watch videos, and yours are always illuminating and pleasant to watch. Thanks!
At the scale of Social Media it's always difficult to tell. It always seems to come down to what the intented use for the images are. While I could pick out the right camera in most of your shots, I am certain that the RAW image, enlarged for printing would really show the difference. Once again, your point is well made. Buy cheap, have fun and unless you're selling beautiful hi res landscape photos or doing product photography it won't matter. There's something for everyone nowadays. It would be interesting to start one's YT channel with as inexpensive camera as possible and succeed because of your personality and what you have to say to the world. Your videos and professionalism have increased exponentially in quality over the past year or so. Don't stop. Thanks.
At 6:30 I much preferred the $200 camera's look. Kinda crazy. Also speaks to your talent to extract as much as possible.
When shooting in low light learn to “spot meter” on the bright areas and dial those highlights back appropriately… -1/3 to -2 letting the shadows go black… after all you are shooting in the dark! Also, all of my MFT cameras are from 2014-2018, I don’t shoot birds in flight, so I see NO reason to upgrade. Not surprised at your results, the image quality I get from the 2014-2018 cameras is sooooo much better than my film days. I tend to use my smaller MFT cameras (i.e. Pen-F) more than my larger MFT cameras.
The EM5 is no slouch. It was my first camera before upgrading to my Em1 Mk2 and then, OM1. All great cameras.
Really enjoyed that, I consistently got it wrong every single time.
Preferred the look of the cheaper camera in every comparison.
Guess there's no need for me to be buying an expensive camera any time soon.
if you know what to look for it's not hard to pick out which was which. I suppose that if I didn't have the better photo to compare against, the em5 would be good enough. is anyone else wondering what the tower had to smile about at 2:47?
I am an owner of em10. In terms of picture quality I don't see a huge difference on om1 and g9 II. I am quite curious though about upgrading and currently deciding between those two. On one side I like working with raw files on OM and their computational abilities, but I prefer video quality and luts on g9 II. Can't decide, because both of them suffer from same thing: noise, washed out colours and mush instead of image when it comes to shooting in low light. I guess, I'm just afraid of being disappointed in the end, because it's quite a lot of money for me 😢
I get what you mean!! Neither will set the world alight with low light performance, but having used both the OM1 and G9ii on safari in challenging light and high shutter speeds, I have found the g9ii to be a bit better in low light.
I don't know if it's a pay-off of the super fast stacked sensor in the OM1, but I did find some of the OM1 images a bit more grainy and muddy. I could pull back the g9ii images a lot more.
But as I say: neither is perfect in this regard! The g9ii sensor is the best I've used in low light on m43, for what that is worth haha
Two things:
Completely agree with the breathing tip. My photographer friends are always arguing about whether clicking at breath in or breath out (I’m a breath out type of clicker).
Also love your MMPR/Sentai collection. Incredible stuff!
I love the energy first of all! Everything else is awesome. And yea, grading! Beautiful. Ok, let me continue watching the video :D
Hi, great video, I almost always went for the cheapest camera 😅
I'm in the process of buying my first camera and I need your help.
Would you choose the Olympus OMD 5 over the Lumix G80? I'll be doing photo and video (occasionally).
That was awesome and extremely informative. Was contemplating upgrading my SL3 to the R series but I figured out there's still life in my lady. It all ends up to clever shooting and Lightroom.
IBIS easily makes up for more than anything else for this, more than you can afford for aperture, more than crop vs large, more than wide angle, anything. (maybe not all those combined). It's flipping amazing, I can take 1/2 second or if I do a burst sometimes 1s exposures handheld (with all those stability techniques). Absolutely bonkers.
I have the Em5 and the Sony A7III the image difference is staggering when used in an environment like a pub or music event. But during the day it’s not that much different ❤ m4/3 are lighter and easier to carry around + the colours the Oly makes are smoother and more pleasing.
I sold my A7iii years ago. Just fired up my PC the other night and god damn the portraits on the Sony were incredible.
Get the S5ii and its best of both worlds
I honestly preferred the older camera’s images for almost every shot except for 1. I’m still shooting with my Fuji xt2 for professional headshots.
Nice video. Though to me is more about inprovements in AF rather than quality. I have the EM5 mark II, and it suffices in terms of IQ. However tracking my 2yo kid its quite challenging. Why not making the om5 with same specs as om1 but with lighter classy body? It looks as if the new om5 is alteady old in terms of tech… would it worth to upgrade?
Big thank you! I recently picked up the OM-D E m5 and I had my doubts. This review/demo and your top 10 #1 video have changed my mind.
You are absolutely right! Nowadays, I am shooting most of my phots with my S23 Ultra...and it's a lot of fun!😉
This was a great vid. I guessed wrong most of the time. I think because it _looked_ like the OM5 was dealing better with blown-out highlights. I use a 10+ year old camera mostly, so this was a good reminder. I consider myself quite well versed in camera technique knowledge (whether or not I always apply it in the moment) but you taught me a couple of things I didn't know.
I much preferred the images taken with the EM5, they were warmer and I really liked them. OM1 was cold looking. Great test 👏
I think color handling has probably changed a lot. The OM-1 is slightly more blue-biased compared to previous models. I can tell that when compared to my Panasonic G7. Though it's not terrible. It also depends on the lighting and how the auto white balance adapts. In raw, it isn't really an issue. Though I tend to prefer jpegs out of camera.
These are RAWs they are only as 'warm' as the sliders setting..🤷♂️
@@Paul_anderson_creative Most raw processing engines, whether Lightroom, DXO, CaptureOne, etc., will read the info from the file and honor the basic color profile and white balance unless you opt to change it. Not to mention, each sensor and software in a camera can produce different potential in their raw files. So color science exists.
As for the test, I couldn’t find one that I preferred over the other! I have an E-M1 and an E-M10 mk2 and I love them, so that might be why 😅 great video for alleviating GAS during the barrage of sales during Black Friday/November
You have a Kenesis keyboard! So do I. Also, I super love your channel and I don't even own any micro four thirds gear, so good job!
That is high praise indeed! Thank you! Yes I adore my kenesis, I used to suffer from rsi from typing a lot and this is sooooo amazing now
I drift around UA-cam watching photography professionals, you managed to keep my attention to the end of the video 👍 very informative and well presented.
Great video! I appreciate the detailed comparison between the EM5 and OM1. also, I had no idea webcams could be this exciting. The Obsbot Tiny Two sounds like a fantastic addition to any content creator's toolkit:)
Great video. I ended up selecting the EM5 shots every time in your tests. 🙂
Using the viewfinder is a much stabler position for handheld in low light. I've found not holding my breath, but breathing out as I take the photo is good for avoiding camera shake. The other thing I do when doing handheld shots at night is set my camera to a high frame rate and take a burst of photos and I usually will get a few which don't have shake. However what you can get with a tripod and low iso at night is always much better. Actually often I shoot at night with a high-end point and shoot (like Nikon P series or Canon G series) and a light weight tripod and get very good results.
Ok, so I picked the wrong camera most (not all) of the time AND often preferred the EM5. That surprised me, but then I realized effectively what you said…’most cameras for the last many years can produce wonderful photos’…I would add you just need someone who knows how to use it! Just another tool! Nice job Emily..wonder if the Mk111 would have worked much the same as the Mk1. Loved the Star Trek reference btw…And to close a quote from the Matrix (aligns with all the great tips you provided here) : “ I Can Only Show You The Door. You're The One That Has To Walk Through It."
I printed a picture of the EM5 and taped it to my desk until several paydays later I bought this camera the year it was launched only in black because silver was sold out. It has been with me to Canada,Japan, Singapore across the Usa and in the Philippines in all kinds of weather from freezing to hard rains and salt water beaches. Weather sealed easily rinsed off with the WR lens and Even now that I own numerous other Brands from Fuji, Canon, Pentax, Sony and Lumix I still to this day if just running out the door Grab my Trusty friend Olympus EM5 without hesitation knowing I can get both beautiful photos and stabilisation for video. I'm not a one camera does all believer if you can afford other cameras more specialised for specific tasks but if I could only afford one camera to sufficiently do everything this one would be it. I also own the EPL5 and an electronic viewfinder added and picture/video quality is identical. But the view finder cost me as much as a used camera so its a great camera if using the back screen only making it a steal on the used market. Plus MFT lenses fit any MFT camera even the ones from china. I've watched your videos from the first one you ever posted and love that your not prideful you've remained a lovely person and a joy to view
Based on your great little video on your EM5, I went looking for an OM-D bargain as an everyday carry. I've just bought an E-M10 ii plus two lenses for under £350! (the extra lens was a bonus). After this video, I can't wait to go out and have some fun.
Hello. Instead of holding your breath while inhaling, it is better to exhale slowly and press down at the end of the exhale. Inspiration increases the heart rate, exhalation decreases it. These are shooting techniques. The best is to exhale slowly, and wait between 2 beats to trigger.
Nice comparison and a real eye opener! I have the E-M5 Mk I and Mk III models. Have to admit, I probably wouldn't be able to tell the two apart in a blind test either. So why did I guy the Mk III? Sucked in by the allure of the 20MP sensor. But I still much prefer the lovely magnesium alloy feel of the Mk I over the plastic Mk III.
Pretty consistently picked the EM5, very surprised! Great video. Goes to show how much is down to how you use the tools you have and not how expensive or cutting edge they happen to be.
Merci j’ai choisi l’EM5 à chaque fois 😮 l’EM5 semble avoir un meilleur piqué ?
I like watching your videos. So simple about photography!
Nicely done! You've really illustrated how it's how you use the camera than how great the specs are in cameras! This really supports the notion of spending on glass rather than bodies when GAS hits!
I think that's a great takeaway! Glass is king! 😁📷
@@MicroFourNerds The aphorism is you date the body but marry the lens.
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Great video Emily, both cameras are capable of great shots. What matters more is subject, composition and "soul" of the image. As Cartier-Bresson said "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept”. I'd much rather look at a less than sharp image that makes me feel something than a tac-sharp ultimately boring or cliché photo.
Great video. Thanks, Emily. The points you made get talked about a lot, but are rarely demonstrated. That said, the OM1 clearly made better final images, but it was good to see the EM5mk1 holding its own. But I'm sure the OM1's RAWs provided quite a bit more latitude for postprocessing, which is important in its own way.
i really liked the EM5's Photos, heck i would even take them over my old 250D from Canon! it really "Shines" in the Competition and once again shows how good old and now affordable Cameras are still holding up...
I learned tonight that I'm keeping my E-M5. Its files look similar enough to the new camera that I feel like I don't need to drop two grand on the new body, versus using the money for lenses.
Truthfully, the biggest shooting difference is the 2022 EVF vs the 2012 EVF.
Great comparison, thank you!!
I found I picked the EM5 most of the time, only occasionally the OM 1! Thanks for this enlightening video, Emily🇦🇺
Another tip for hand-held long exposures, set to high-speed burst and hold the shutter down for a bit. Then in post you can select whichever of the 10 frames was sharpest - even if you're moving a bit, usually there'll be a couple that are sharp, and because you're holding the shutter most of the images won't be affected by the movement of your finger.
I absolutely love this test you did a brilliant job! Shout out to the EM5. I love seeing older cameras delivering the good.
great video. what is the song on 1:41?
A friend told me to watch your videos after wanting to get into more budget friendly photography (I shot on Sony Full frame until recently, which I sold recently for funding another hobby) and honestly this is a fantastic channel. Very well delivered content! Thank you! Subscribed 😁
Thank you, and your friend! ☺️
Love your channel - always interesting, always entertaining, always informative.
Hi Emily, I enjoyed your vlog. I found great tips from it
Where did you get that sensor cover for the OM-1? I am really liking it
It's the red version of the olympus 15mm bodycap lens 😁
I really cannot tell any difference between the two cameras.
BTW, you have the most beautiful smile 😊
I love how you teach us with your videos. Hope to learn more from you. Subscribed!
Em5 has a bit of Green tint and less details in shadows, so it really easy to tell, but it still a good camera
Your pace is great, really friendly and charming. I'd like to add than when in doubt, just shot another one, slightly different. 10 Times less money invested on a piece on machinery is 9 times more money invested in humankind ;) Regards from Argentina
Illuminating video, as always. Nice ST line thrown in there!
What camera did you film the talking head bits with? It looks great.
The lumix s5ii 😊
Some great practical tips! Another thing I think can be useful to remember is that “small” sensor cameras should be operated at smaller numerical f-stops than “large” sensor cameras to obtain the same depth of field. This means that when taking a night scene, for example, a micro 4/3 camera will be operating at two stops lower ISO than a full frame camera. This is why sensor size has very little effect on practical low light noise performance. However, larger sensors are still better at dealing with scenes with high dynamic ranges - common in night scenes - and will require less careful exposure to avoid blown out highlights etc. Of course it’s all about creativity and skill, but nevertheless understanding these things are important in translating mere settings into how an image ultimately looks.
The EM5 I was just the thing when I wanted an inexpensive mirrorless. Still selling for about $200, it's a terrific value and a very solid performer. I'm planning on acquiring an EM1 II one of these days (c $500), but cannot justify the cost of the new OM1.
Thanks Emily, good advice. I used to have gear envy and would listen to influencers who would extol a new camera model that was "100% faster focusing" or "Has amazing improved ISO performance." Sadly, I would sometimes purchase said camera only to find that it was only slightly better in both areas than my previous camera. Lesson learned. There are certain times when I use my giant pro-level DSLR (yes, I still have a DSLR), but generally, a small camera does the trick for me. As an aside I was at a friend's birthday party in a dark restaurant. I took a shot with my iPhone (no flash) and even that gadget produced a very nice photo.
i got about half of it right, and my main camera is an OM-1 :D just shows that the person and the skill is much more important than the equipment itself!
Exactly! I thought it was quite a fun experiment- I didn't expect it to be as close as it was for sure!
Then you have the other aspect, Emily:When you actually don’t have two different pictures of the identical scene to compare with each other, the one you show as perhaps being the lesser shot actually is fine! Right?😊 and to tell you the truth, I kept making the wrong choice: I kept choosing the OM 5 as the OM 1 shot!
Thanks for creating m4/3s content, subbed. I stumbled across it looking at reviews on stuff
There were differences, but no “superiority“. Very good comparison… Time to get an old EM5. 😊
This is the best video that I have found on this topic. (you nailed it)
I'm jumping into the photography and videography game for next summer. I don't have much experience but am confident that I will grow into it on time for my 30,000 island trip in September. My first search was at a second hand store. I have been checking out Canon Rebels T3, T7 and T7i for $199C, $399C with lens and $399C with no lens respectively. Any one have some thoughts to share? Thanks from Ontario Canada.
Great video! :) Btw, how do you have the rode mic attached to the shirt?
A little magnet adapter! It's so handy! It's a rode official accessory
Great low light tips, framed in an interesting comparison of the two cameras. (I could mostly guess which was which, but the quality of the low priced camera was quite good.)
Great video. Makes me and my brand new camera feel a bit silly. You’re an inspiration. love your photographs no matter what camera you shoot, however expensive, or dinky, or spray painted.
I’m late to respond, but in a lot of cases I preferred the E-M1 over the OM1. In a transitional switch from Canon FF DSLR where I opted to go with f4 ”L” lenses to reduce lens size I purchased a well underused E-M1. After happily using the E-M1 for a time, along side the Canon, I decided to sell all of the Canon gear and the E-M1 and pick up an E-M1 Mk III. My only regret was not keeping the E-M1 body that I used to qualify my switch.
I might add that I do use HR mode for static product photography. It performs brilliantly.
When I make prints, I’m rarely disappointed and if I am it’s usually a fault of my own doing.
Makes me appreciate my E-M5 mk II even more! Those E-M5 shots were great!
when I started with micro four thirds, I read that you should buy the cheapest body as they all have the same sensor. Buying an e-pm2 held me back compared to the OM-1.
This was a great video. I was able to tell all but 2 images you provided that was from the cheaper and the more expensive camera. TThe two that was missed was from missed/out of focusing. The dynamic range of the newer camera is very noticeable (in RAW of course), although in your edits, the sharpness made the difference since it was very noticeable between the two. But with that said, most people are not looking at photos on a large screen nor do they have them blown up and displayed on the wall. Everything looks great on a small screen. So, a cheap $200 camera is more than enough. Most people even ditched the camera altogether and rely on their camera phones, who now have crazy low f-stops. But as you said, its fun and there is no real need for the most expensive gear if you learn the proper fundamentals in shooting. Great advice and looking forward to more. You have a new subscriber!!
the Editing you did one them is Nuts I really like it.
I'm not a M4/3 user but enjoyed the video with some good tips for shooting in low light. Thanks.
What camera are you personally using?
Should i bring the em5mk1 or m9 leica to a holiday with kids
I've owned two em5 OG. moved on, upgraded, even moved to canon ff. I look back at my old photos and just feel like I miss that camera and the images it made. It wasn't prefect, but it had a nice character in the images.
The higher dynamic range makes a visible difference. I once did a low-light shoot with E-M5II (mine) and E-M1II (borrowed), and not only resolution/detail and noise were visibly different - but especially highlight-retention was much better with the E-M1II (an all-around capable camera, so I would possibly look for a used one if I'll need a new camera). YT can't show it, but watching full-screen on a 4K display already does (no pixel-peeping necessary, not for the noise, not for the highlight retention, maybe for resolution/detail).
I guessed correctly roughly half of the time. And as for my favorite pic of each matchup, it was also pretty even split.
Great points! Thanks for highlighting the sensor size debate. I have a TG5 that has been accused of being my Somy Full frame. 😅. And I secretly shoot APSC sometimes . Thanks again.
Ha I love that! I had the TG1 a while back and bloody loved it!
A great comparison and fantastic the way the way the EM5 did.
Subscribed! 😊 Now I'm curious about Olympus cameras, the oldest most used camera that I own was the fujifilm xt1. Couldn't agree more with you, your knowledge as a photographer comes first and the rest comes second.
Got to love the E-M5. I have had such great adventures with mine. An absolute prized possession.
This is a great kind of question to ask. One potential difficulty here, though, is simply that these images are significantly reduced in size to fit in a video frame (or, when viewing side-by-side, half of one) and then on top of that compressed into a lossy video codec for UA-cam. And then resized again during playback to fit in whatever portion of whatever screen is being used to view them. It's a neat side-by-side thing to compare, but evaluating stills in a video is really difficult to do effectively because so much data is lost, and in particular resizing downward from original resolution is going to cut back on the visible noise. Would be interesting to see the original shots posted as jpegs on a web page rather than in a video, which would make for a much more clear comparison.
I got more right, than I expected. There is a difference, it's just very expensive to get those tiny bit better results.
I shoot concert photography indoors in a dark venue where flash is prohibited every couple of months with micro 4/3 gear. High ISO is unavoidable - especially for the photos of the guests, who are sitting or standing in really murky light conditions. But, I have made it work so far. Next time, I'll be bringing an E-M5 iii (mostly with a 45mm f1.8 lens) for the first time, and I worry quite a bit, if it can perform as well as my GX8.
Anyway, I found your video very interesting. Low light photography is always challenging - especially since I only use free software to edit my photos, and it just isn't that good at dealing with high ISO noise. But, that's the deal as a happy amateur.
If you're using an Olympus body you may be able to use the AI Noise Reduction add-on for the (free) OM Workspace software. You'll need to check that your camera hardware is supported but if it is, try it.
@@ianparr1533 The E-M5 iii is indeed supported by the AI Noise Reduction in OM Workspace. I hope it will make up for the low auto ISO compared the GX8, but I have my doubts.