Are These Albums Overrated or Underrated?
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- In this video we brought in 10 different albums and debated if they are overrated or underrated. The list of albums includes Travis Scott’s Utopia, Beyoncé’s Renaissance, Kanye West’s Yeezus & more.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
0:27 UTOPIA
3:18 Yeezus
7:08 Marshall Mathers LP 2
10:05 Dark Lane Demo Tapes
12:34 Dawn FM
15:23 a Gift & a Curse
17:56 Renaissance
20:29 Coloring Book
22:39 An Evening With Silk Sonic
25:43 Limbo
A Evening with silk sonic is so underrated it’s insane
Utopia is better than birds imo
Easily
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Anyone else who thinks otherwise needs to get their ears and brains checked
Fs
not even a hot take
MMLP2 is underrated. Bad Guy, Survival, Legacy, Baby, Evil Twin, Rap God, Wicked Ways, Headlights. Bangers after bangers
@103.5Heavener In what way is Rap God one of the WORST songs of all time?
@103.5Heavenerokay that’s just dumb now 💀
@103.5Heavenerdude you are literally everywhere and none of your takes makes actually any sense lmao
@103.5Heavenereven though rap god has no replay value for me, how is that song one of the worst of all time, like, tell me plz
rap god is horrible
Yeezus is one of if not the most underrated concept albums of all time. Highly suggest listening to Dissect Podcast seasonal analysis on the entire album. Breaks it down very in depth.
Kissland and dawn FM are too. They gave respect to some amazing stuff today
It's not that underrated imo alot of people rave about it. It's the "I swear I have obscure music taste" album for rap bros. It's really good but I think deathgrips just does Yeezus better than Yeezus it's just less accessable.
@@thdjskxkxdjwi13 death grips doesn't do Yeezus better than Yeezus I just overrated it. Death grips fans give them the mj treatment. Overrated by definition. They aren't the best rappers in the world. They aren't even top 5. I'm not going to overrate them sorry
@@thatguy1488 ON GP better than any song on Yeezus. Also Kanye isn't a top 5 RAPPER he has some of the most cringe bars. Plus not saying DG is better than kanye overall I still take Kanye. But Yeezus is not better than at least 3 deathgrips albums. Also The Money Store (the DG album that sounds the most likely Yeezus) came out before Yeezus.
Best Ye's album
Mmlp 2 is perfectly rated for me because there’s a lot of people that hate it and loves it so that balances out to just being a decent album which I think it is
Complete 🗑 never been more disappointed by an album like in hindsight recovery is 🗑 too honestly relapse is better than sslp and tes and a much much better album than anything since it. I ducking love relapse so much.
@@johnmichael734defo racist
@@johnmichael734 anytime I see these comments I just laugh you all keep on saying relapse is good but when it dropped you all criticized it a lot for the accent. Mmlp2 is a good album for me in the end everyone has their own choice
@@uche4254 on god I didn’t hear relapse when it came out I really got into Eminem’s music when I started smoking weed in 9th grade and my friends played must be the ganja off relapse. When I listened to his whole discography bad meets evil was new. I thought relapse was his best album then. Now I might say mmlp but relapse still clears all the late stuff and holds up right there with mmlp for me. Ngl I did like recovery at first it took like 40 listens and I’m like wait this shit is ass lol.
I think it would be held better if it wasn’t titled MMLP2, yeah it has callbacks and of course Stan sequel, some skit continues but I think it could of been labeled anything else and then wouldn’t be compared to MMLP. I don’t think you could make a true sequel to that thing. I skip more songs than I play, but Bad Guy itself is incredible to me I almost hate it came out when it did becayse I truly believe you could place that as Em’s last song retirement etc. also the production on MMLP is consistent , 2 is just all over with classic Em Dre stuff, Rubin stuff and just nothing that seems cohesive. I think Em wanted to signal I’m back, Slims back but he only is for a bit. It’s a pretty okay run but it does nothing to argue the idea that Em still can’t come close on a complete project that even compares to the original trilogy of albums. Also say what you want the Kendrick song is just…why why go that route other than to subvert expectations which just didsapoints, still hoping we get a rappity rap Em/Kdot again to make up for it, though idk if I’d even be hyped for it now in 2023
Yeezus is really good. I feel like I liked it more in 2013 tho
Yeezus aged so weird cause all the songs feel timeless because of the production but it still feels so dated for some reason
@@kameronseay3861nah it doesnt feel dated at all to me, 808s does
Yeezus was so garbage 🗑
@@tyresefisher3921L
@@kameronseay3861 yeah I feel the same
i really love bad guy on mmlp2
One if yalls few consistent Ls is yalls take on MMLP2, i think it's Em's last GREAT album. It definitely deserved it's Grammy
Its eminems most consistent album definitely, again i think his latest albums apart from revival are at the very minimum 7/10
Yeah they make me so mad when they diss MMLP2 and praise trash like the Drake album they picked
@@103.5Heavener Oxymoron > both
@@throwaway434 you're tripping. Oxymoron was basic AF.
MTBMB is better imo.
calling mmlp2 overated but yall defend hnm and clb like crazy mmlp2 is a good album nothing to crazy definitely not top tier eminem but its aged well
theyre not defending hnm or clb lmao. you can like mmlp2 and all but it def did not age well
It’s a bad Album they’re not lying
it did u js delusional@@yesmk000
mmlp2 is the most mediocre album ems put out. Nearly every song concept on it he’s done before and twice as good. Its definitely not his worst but people like u that defend it for no reason are why its overrated
"for no reason" u slow asf lmfao@@jaycyclondo
You guys keep throwing too much hate at MMLP2! It’s not perfect, but it’s lightyears ahead of anything he’s dropped since then (kamikaze was ight). It has its corny moments, some questionable production choices, but it has a shitload of quality bars and more good beats than his newer projects.
Can’t mention Dark Lanes Demo Tapes without time flies, top 10 drake song imo
Dawn FM is my favorite Weeknd album, listened to it alot but never on a bus ride. I feel like when Phantom Regret by Jim comes on we gonna be on an accident and I'm gonna die a slow death while Jim is talking 😂
The love game take is awful it’s not the best Kendrick feature but I love how he uses the story of GKMC in this feature to expand it
I love that song, not every song needs to be a hard hitting banger.
@@MuhammadSalman7236 tru
“Rapping over a country ass beat” it’s the beat from Life’s Been Good by Joe Walsh, cmon now guys 😂
On MMLP2 he raps fast on one song and you guys are acting like it’s every verse
Bro wdym he didnt mention the astro tragedy. He did on my eyes in that line "i replay them nights"
Utopia is a good album, but there is just no denying astroworld had that instant hit feeling the second you’d put it on. It’s 17 tracks with arguably not a single miss. Astroworld is still yet to be topped on Travis discography
Astroworld is definitely topped by rodeo. Astroworld is great but rodeo is one of the best trap albums of all time. For me utopia is on par with Astro cuz I just loved the darkness and I think utopia has far better performances by Travis while I think for the most part astroworld gets carried by features except for songs like sicko mode, astrothunder, and no bystanders.
Utopia is properly rated. But Astroworld has at least 2 skips
I always find it weird when people say, “this album has no misses,” but I feel like that can’t be true. Not everyone is going to agree that an album is skipless, so I don’t get why people spend their time commenting that. With that being said I think Yosemite, who what!, Houstonfornication and coffee bean are all skips for me so imo not a skipless album.
@@Prodbyjah464coffee bean being a skip is wild
@@jamescunliffe1718 really, I think people only big up that song because it’s one of the few Travis Scott songs that are somewhat introspective but his performance is so low energy and emotion that it feels uninteresting after like the first minute. Like you can have songs with low key vibes but you actually need to sound like you’re trying, hell stop trying to be god and rip screw do a better job at that then coffee bean.
You guy should understand the first mmlp is dark cos that’s how his life was 😐😐😐 things changed after that album mmlp2 is a second part of his life it was much brighter
They finding garbage reasons to hate.
Mmlp2 should have been named rap god
1-RODEO
2-ASTROWORLD
3-UTOPIA
4-BIRDS
Finally, someone with the right ranking
very based
I got the same but imo rn Astroworld and utopia is interchangeable
@@dimiyhNo
birds gets too much unnecessary hate
beyoncé take was crazy. the distant harmonies coming in in the little bridge section on cozy were gorgeous. production on the whole album is some of the best i’ve heard to date in general
I really like DELRESTO honestly. Surprised it’s been cited as one of the weaker moments. It was definitely a grower for me.
Glad ‘Limbo’ got some love - it’s a decent
album, and Aminé is a good rap artist 👏🏾
Business is Business is WAY better than AGAAC I don’t know how people even think gunna is better
Im sorry but MMLP2 is incredible. He hasn't been so focused since Eminem Show. Listen to Rap God man
‘suma luma dooma looma, you assuming i’m a human?’, ah yes, pinaccle songwriting from who is supposed to be the best lyricist in the game on the song crowning himself “rap god”.
Eminem rapped a whole lot of nothing bro. Saying words quickly doesn't mean anything if there is no meaning.
@@mandem2362 in ems defence rap gods the only song on that album he does the fast gimmicky thing and the popularity of it led to the nonstop fast shit
I disagree@@mandem2362
@@jaycyclondo You picked a line he used as a reference to another song kiddo. That wasn't just a throw away line. Just shows you don't actually research the meaning behind lyrics
Legacy is a top 10 em song off MMLP2
I kinda agree with the Dawn Fm take but it falls behind Kissland, StarBoy, & MDM for me. Although my discography ranking for him switches like every day or week lol.
Them criticising ems yoda voice on this album but praising his accents and the album relapse which also has a yoda voice just screams contradictory
Dawn FM is the most impressive pop album since doowops and hooligans. The only other person in the history of this planet that could make an album remotely close to Dawn fm and STILL could NOT replicate it is Michael Jackson's. The writing on dawn FM is some of the great this world has ever seen besides top teir hip-hop albums like Kendrick and mf doom
are you actually saying dawn FM is better than Bad or thriller? no way
Rare sighting of Luca and Ant agreeing talking about Yeezus
Yeezus is in the middle for me but I remember when the album came out when I was in 11th grade I could not stop listening to "Blood on the Leaves" a top 10 Kanye song for me.
W
So many great songs, hold my liquor and bound 2 are my favorite songs on the album BOTL is also great
I hear leave the door open at a party and everyone started dancing it was a beautiful moment
Lu look mad goofy in the thumbnail lol
you guys should talk about balloonerism by mac miller
All y'all niggas talk about is mac miller
mmlp2 got some heaters, i'd say its better than kamikaze, revival, music to be murdered by
Yeezus is Ye's best work no debate imo
i like Yeezus and i can see why It could be his best, but its really arguable, It has 5 outstanding songs and 5 good songs
This comment should be illegal
5 good songs the other ones are mid
@@kol9495 I’d say 4
@@hahaharvey3068 These are in your opinion?
Omg I agree with the Beyonce take the only song I like is America has a problem remix with Kendrick Lamar
are you guys gonna post a circus maximus review
L take on MMLP2
MMLP2 is top 5 Em on a good day for me. Gets too much hate imo, I actually appreciate the Rick Rubin production on this over Revival 100%. Em’s last great album to me.
Stronger Than I Was is one of his worst songs though I’ll admit that.
Yeezus and kissland are the two most ahead of their time albums ever made and they were both dropped the same year
Is it a hot take to prefer Die Lit over Rodeo?
Utopia is rated correctly. I feel like theres an even amount of discourse where people either over sell the album and just straight hating. Its a great album. Its not the best of all time, its def not the worst. But overall, I think its rated well
Coloring book is fire. It sounds so beautiful
I love MMLP2
Coming from an OG XO member, Dawn fm is top 3 on Abel’s catalog. My top 3 are After hours, kiss land, Dawn fm
Kiss Land his best album, it always gets slept on
@@donniepistone6347 kiss land is amazing it was at my number one spot until after hours dropped
@@donniepistone6347So many people say it’s his worst it’s actually insane
My opinions on the albums in this video:
Utopia: overrated right now, but thats just becaude of all of the hype arohnd it. When the hype dies down it will probably be well rated
Yeezus: underrated. Its been getting mote love now, but still a little bit underrated. This is Ye's best solo albums from the 2010s.
MMLP2: overhated and underrated. The amount of people I see hating on this album is weirdly high. Its not em's best work but it still has some good songs. Dont think it would get as much hate if someone held to a lower. standard dropped it.
DLDT: well rated. This album is talked about a decent amount, but not too much. Which works because its a good album, but it's not incredible.
Dawn FM: underrated, this is top 3 the weeknd. There are so many bangers on this album, yet no one seems to talk about it. Every song is good, and the great tracks work really well.
AGaaC: I'm a little biased because I don't normally like gunna, and this is by far his worst project, but I think its very Overrated. It was just boring.
Renaissance: This album isn't personally for me, I dont usually like Beyonce very much. But I'll say that this album is slightly underrated, I dont hear many non Beyonce fans talk about it. Overall, its not her best album, but its fun.
Coloring Book: well rated, it's talked about quite a bit, but it deserves it. If I had ti pick I would say slightly underrated. People brush off chance, but I think he deserves another chance (heh) This album is very good.
An Evening With Silk Sonic: Underrated. This is a really fun album. It's not a masterpiece, but not every album needs to be. Sometimes it can just be fun. And this album is really fun.
Limbo: Underrated, this is another album that gets better when you just let it be fun. It's a really good album.
Nice take on Yeezus
I’m going to have to disagree with Luca, this album is definitely not Travis’s worst studio album, that belongs to Birds, no disrespect to birds because it’s such an amazing album, but utopia is much more fascinating, unique, different, and brings a much better aesthetic that you can feel throughout the whole album. While I don’t know if I can say it’s better than Astroworld, I think it’s easily tied. It’s just such a different crazy beautiful album with a much more central focus on Travis and his rapping and producing abilities.
MMLP2 is his most diverse sounding album. We have a stylish slice from everything he has done through his career there.(I honestly don't get the hate for the Rap-Rock influenced songs)
Also his pen game was mindblowing it's his best album lyrically.
MMLP2 is my 2nd fav Eminem album. The Eminem Show always ll be no.1 for me.
Mmlp2 is nowhere near my favorite Eminem album but, is it overrated? No. I feel like mmlp2 is at the perfect “decent” category and people don’t over praise or over hate this album enough for it to be any of the two categories. It aged ok and I still feel the same about it now as I did 10 years ago. Nothing super memorable to me other than bad guy or rap god
underrated and overhated is not the same
Man (or men) hugeeee respect for saying Limbo is underrated. It really is underrated maybe even aminé as a whole because many people still think he’s a one hit wonder with caroline…
I want to See you Guys Ranking of The Weeknds Discography
They have
@@thanasisskompas7335 link?
Did that a year and a half ago
@@mandem2362link?
tripping on the mmlp2
Still wrong on MMLP2 😂
The point of MMLP is to represent what Eminem wants to say in what style he's into, it was never supposed to sound like the original.
Because Eminem's music is for the most part not repetitive
Y'all hate new eminem because he sounds different and ain't the same artist you admire, or you just mad about revival so you hate everything he put up since then + recovery and MMLP
It's not one of his best imo, but you can't say it's overrated just because it's an eminem album you didn't like. Though I think The Monster is quite overrated
And rap god was a bit overrated when it came out
why can't they say it's overrated if they don't like it?
@@mhrshf6525 i dont care, they can say their opinion, i respect it, but i just disagree with it because i got a different opinion
@@ApocaMinecraft right okay, i was just confused when you said that they 'can't say it's overrated just because it's an eminem album you didn;t like'
Best channel on UA-cam🤩🤩
I like this idea of this series please continue 🙏🙏🙏
Jesus loves you guys so much. God is with yall through all of your problems
Utopia may b underrated tho it hasn’t aged yet but I’ve seen so much disrespect like oh it’s mid it’s a yeezus copy so at this point it is underrated imo
UTOPIA isn't nowhere near MID. You won't get another album that remotely sounds like Utopia for a long time. Most mainstream Hip Hop rappers are literally the same copy and paste. Utopia isn't perfect but it does stand out and has gems on it
i freakin love MMLP2 lmao
i dont put it in the same lane as the first, but i love every song on there. Even the not so great ones. Love the content though, my dudes 💪
I have Utopia as his #2 album behind Rodeo
W same here!!
Astro is better and Birds could also be considered a better album than Utopia ngl
but W for Rodeo at #1👍
@@DEEKANDTARA I have utopia over birds and astro. But all great albums no matter what
@@michael8122 recency bias, i bet your ranking will change over time
Utopia didn’t get criticised for lack of ‘bangers’ - it just doesn’t have much soul. There is too much going on that it forgets to really have any personality.. I rarely get through the whole project without getting fatigued at some stage
Ngl, I don’t get that statement. How is there a lot going on? Not tryna be a prick but I’m really confused with that statement
@@Prodbyjah464no sense of structure probably.
Thank you for saying this man. I see alot of praise for the album and i dont fully understand it. I get that the music is TECHNICALLY good, but I can’t connect with nearly any of the songs as a human being
@@wasabijones4571 I still don’t get that, the songs have a mostly chorus hook chorus hook bridge chorus structure and when they don’t they usually have a beat switch
@@Prodbyjah464 the whole project rubs me the wrong way to be honest - this thing had the attitude to be as hyped up as a MBDTF or a TBAP but it honestly fails to live up to anything near those projects - I don’t mind a good chunk of this but I really don’t think it’s that great. 19 tracks is also way too long. What happened to 12 solid tracks at most?
Till this day i don't understand why these guys hate the MMLP2 so much and MTBMB they are decent albums and not bad like revival or other rap albums, I do kinda agree that MMLP2 is a bit better and slowly becoming a classic as far as closing eminems story with the Slim Shady person. MTBMB is eminem having fun and tapping in modern rap the album has no story but still is good probably his best ever since revival.
good work!
Kiss Land is The Weeknd’s best album but shoutout Dawn FM, its top3 imo
keep of the work i love that you guys are yourselves ❤
Thank you❤️
@NFRPodcast It took me awhile to find your podcast amongst the comments. The albums that I have for you to checkout will blow you away however I don't give my recommendations unless people are really interested in possibly reviewing the albums. I can say you won't be disappointed & you'll have actual things to say on the albums song by song. So are you interested?
Mmlp2 is class
9:09 so far samples “Life’s been good” by joe Walsh a member of the eagles. This is very much not a country song but a rock song.
I don't think we need you guys need to talk about Beyoncé at this point. Just the absolute worst takes, Renaissance is so fire, the content is sexy and empowering. Like okay, the sexual content makes you uncomfortable, at least pretend it doesn't for y'alls reputation. because guess what? People be fucking. One of the most human things to experience is to have a sexual encounter with someone. They gon start adding your videos to YTKIDS. Not all music nerds are untouched prudes
I like to think the mmlp2 is an encore2 it just feels like it is, which isn't a bad thing because I love encore.
No way. Encore is a poor man's Eminem show . Encore lyrically was weak , mmlp2 was fantastic
Been blasting Renaissance the last couple weeks…what an album! You guys gotta give it a go in the gym or in the car! So many great songs, impeccable production by Mike Dean, The Dream, Skrillex, Syd and so many others! Cozy, Alien Superstar, Cuff It, Energy into Break My Soul, Plastic off the Sofa, Virgos Groove, Heated, Summer Renaissance all instant classic summertime bangers!
There should have been a "perfectly rated" option.
Listening to dark lane demo at 3am hits different 🙏
Utopia is my favorite album from travis
Can’t believe you thought Encore is better than MMLP2
Mmmmmm both ehhh for Em
No way, encore is nowhere near MMLP2.
UTOPIA - still too early to say
Yeezus - properly rated by the fanbase, underrated by others
MMLP2 - a bit underrated and Em's best since Relapse
DLDT - underrated + comfortably Drake's best since More Life (which is his most underrated)
Dawn FM - properly rated
a Gift and a Curse - properly rated
Renaissance - haven't heard
Coloring Book - underrated
An Evening With Silk Sonic - properly rated
Limbo - haven't heard
how is AGAAC properly rated? Like is it good or bad? Cause I hated it lol
@@theboi5584it’s overrated imo. Idk how people can even say that it’s better than business is business
@@Kanyewestbiggestfan123 I agree on BUSINESS IS BUSINESS being better.
@@Kanyewestbiggestfan123 agreed
Dawn FM is so underrated
Why does no one talk about I know?
21:04 mixtape is a great song
11:16Facts BUT CLB & Her Loss are crazy to me 😭🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️… Dark Lane > Scorpion tho & Demons is😮💨 (this hermes from runway this ain’t ralph lauren tell them again !!!! loved her way back, drunk so i text Je’Taime but don’t hit send🤯!!)
Love the respect for Dawn FM. It's the most intriguing concept album for Abel to me.
No stand out vocal performances on Renaissance? Give Plastic off the sofa and Virgo's groove another spin
MMLP2 > Recovery, Relapse, Revival, Kamikaze, MTBMB
recovery ??😳👀
Finally someone said it about Renaissance! Very Overrated.
Wouldnt be an NFR video without some undeserved Drake D-riding!
Y'all just can't leave Drake alone🤣
Ill never understand they're hate for mmlp2, genuinely one of the most consistently good em albums
I already know some of these gonna make me mad
Let’s see😂
@@NFRPodcastOnly one I slightly disagree with is the coloring book
@NFRPodcast NFR you'll see my comment at the top of your new comments in a second.
If MMLP2 had don't front, wicked ways and groundhog day instead of stronger than I was, the monster, and asshole, it would have been an 8 or 8.5 for me. Right now it's maybe a 7.
If Em really wanted to have a female pop song on his album, then even "beautiful pain" would have been a much better choice than "the monster".
And I think Rap God is actually a really good song. Great beat, chorus and bars from Em. It DOES NOT fit into the lyrical miracle category (even though it inspired a lot of it).
And so far is such a fun song. Uncommon Fantano W
I wonder if Ant is being completely honest with us or not
Hahahaha Ant has some catch phrases which he uses way too much. “Objectively speaking…”
I was going to make this exact same comment 💀
I think he was being half honest with the MMLP2
Why wouldn’t he be honest? it’s just opinions lol
L Lu & Ant on Renaissance take(s)
10:40 We're going to pretend Her Loss wasn't focused?
l spend more listen on utopia then any trav album and l listen to this guy since like 2015 and l trully see myself in my opinion its hist best album in terms of disco but rodeo is for sure no doubt the best trap album ever
Glad to see Yeezus get the love it deserves
Yeezus was garb bruh
@@mally8it962 Yeezus is the best album of all time idgaf
Mmlp2 is not overrated, i'd rather say it's underrated than overrated, i know so many people praise it but in my opinion it deserves even more praise. I would really want to try to convince y'all that it's really good and i want y'all to see why it is my favourite Eminem album, but i know it's really hard to change someone's opinion, like how no one will ever convince me that the album is bad and i will always defend it.
Also, you're really using yoda voice as an argument to bring down the "rapping at a 100%" argument? Plus he did it on relapse on buffalo bill too, but you praise the shit out of the album and you never mentioned that it brings the rapping quality down or something.
Also also "he's not saying much he's just rapping fast" have you paid attention to the lyrics at all? The concept of mmlp2 is to cover the topics he talked about on mmlp and to show how he feels about them now and how they have changed or not changed in 13 years, it's not suppposed to sound the same as the first one since it came out almost a decade and a half later, it has some nostalgia based songs, but it was mostly Eminem rapping about old topics in a new way, and that's why i liked it.
Its a really good album. Its funny cause i dident like it when it came out, but now i Think its his last really good album! Really enjoyable album aswell
I dont know, i think the mmlp2 is pretty good but I wouldn't say its top 5 eminem albums but it is #7 for me. I also dont get how you think berzerk is a bad song either.
Always a great day when NFR uploads
W boi
Bottom on gift and curse is a good song
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