Americans are obsessed with race and tribalism. Thats why the fights arent getting made, rather than call a duck the respective fan bases simp for their fighters.
@ it actually does, Usyk has fought better quality competition. I don’t know if Bruce still debates other channels on his own but I’d love to discuss this. Also who do people think beat Usyk? The split decisions in his career are complete BS, he clearly beat Joshua the second time and Fury the first.
@@shawnterrance7204Please do not abuse the "Tripple K" where it ain't warranted. It ain't right to put that on Usyk name, but more importantly, overusing it will begin to diminish it's potency & impact the next time we go to use it on somebody who actually deserves it.
@victor, he is now and no disrespect to Usyk, but I already know nobody can beat him at any weight class unless another heavyweight beats him. I don't rate heavyweights on my p4p list and never have. I got Crawford one, Inoue two.
@@abuzainah1 @victor, Roy fought at heavyweight only one time. He won but he returned back down and fought. If Roy had intentions on staying at heavyweight (he did win a title in that fight and could have decided to defend it) I would have taken him off my p4p list. If Usyk stayed at cruiserweight, he wouldn't be a 2 time undisputed champion and I would have put him 3rd behind Bud and Inoue. Again no disrespect to Usyk, but the p4p list was not made for heavyweights and that's how I treat it. Nobody beat Usyk yet so I know he is the baddest man in boxing and I think he would beat Bud or Inoue if they went up to heavyweight.
When Crawford beats Canelo in May, this subject will be null and void. In fact, he'll be on even some of his biggest haters all time top 5 list. Pound for pound won't even be discussed after that.
Crawford could fight Prime Moses after he split the seas and people would say he’s ducking Jesus. Crawfords just like that, he’s a great but haters will always search for reasons to minimise his accomplishments. Buds resume is absolutely fine, is it groundbreaking? No but because it’s not groundbreaking haters gotta go to the extreme and down it. And there’s always a new great hope to beat bud until they get their ass beat and they move into a new one. Boots was the last guy and ain’t even need to get his ass beat for people to move on.
Unfortunately Plant isn't on the p4p list and although I love Plant and I picked him to beat Canelo, the first time I picked against Canelo since he fought Lara, he didn't get the job done and I don't think Canelo will fight him again and why should he? Already beat Plant and got the knockout.
I really don’t recall in my life someone other than a so called black being number 1 one P4p like when Roy had it ,it transferred to Floyd then Ward then Crawford and trust me I was born in seventies I know who was who in 70s and 80s and it always was a Grass root Original Darkskin guy🤷🏽♂️
Terence crawford been the real #1 p4p fighter since Floyd retired But IDK about crawford beating a pretty boy Floyd..I always thought p4p meant that if 2 fighters were in same weight class who would win skill for skill
The original term p4p was meant to delethe the best skilled smaller fighter from the heavyweight champion.... That's why the first powerful pound king was a welterweight turned middleweight.... Sugar ray robinson... I think you need to brush up on your boxing history
@montbrink4700 No dumbsss I'm the Boxing Hostorian before Sugar Ray Robinson they had a P4P before the queens berry rules that include Heavyweights also too p4p literally the best fighters regardless of weight class... No, in fact you need to brush up on history
@DRAGONMANEDUTAINMENT so pre Queensbury Rule ( And that's the correct spelling by the way Mister Historian) That means that " BOXING" would be in England.... Why would the english use the term pound for pound when that's not their metrics??.... Why wouldn't they use the term stone for stone??....MAN YOU FULL S%%%.....
Hey Bruce! It’s rare that I come across many Latinos in Australia, however, when I do interact with them, I always ask, “Do you consider yourself to be Spanish or brown”? They always respond with, “I’m Spanish”, and then I tell them, are you sure about that? You know that Europeans (Spaniards) colonized and conquered your people right? Then they call me an “Abo” (racial slur that’s used against Indigenous Australians) and walk away🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@ForwardFeedback So are you implying that Latinos should claim the identity of the people that colonized/subjugated them? I’m an Aboriginal Australian, I possess 40 percent British European blood as a result of European men violating my ancestors for over 90 years, does that make me British? Absolutely not. I’m not dumb enough to claim the identity of my oppressors.
@@blitztactique4689 If your White ancestors were Brits then yes, you're part English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh, just like any Latinos with Spanish ancestry are also part Spanish. That's how ancestry works.
Dude, you ain't studied them them well enough. A prime Bud would be at Floyd and possibly knock him out. Styles make fights and Maidana, although he lost to Floyd twice, he gave the blueprint on that Philly shell defense. Maidana just didn't have the talent to beat Floyd. Bud would easily penetrate that Philly shell and smoke Floyd. I agree with Bradley.
when I think about it bro u make a lot of sense. If maidana was able to give some issues to Mayweather, then Crawford could definitely give that smoke to prime Floyd, @@Reggie-n8l
We r Americans. Not black. By saying black means not Americans. Caucasian is Caucasian. Americans means indigenous Americans. Or Original Americans. It's in the Americans dictionary... it's united state not Americans. I'm America. America is my motherland and power base....
I personally have Inoue at one, Usyk at two, and Crawford at three, but Crawford and Usyk are interchangeable to me. If Crawford was more active I might have him number one.
@@bigsoldier2 if saying cap to saul beating bud you must be like 20 years old…did bud beat Maddy some say no but you think he can fight saul who is two weight class above him straight clown 🤡 man stop being lead by bias UA-camers
Iam from the UK and we love Bud Crawford he's definitely the best pound for pound and has been for years.
Uk fans are the best they don't do the bs🫡💯
@Boombaptreetz 👍
Usyk and Crawford always bigging each other up. Lots of respect between the 2.
real recognize real!
Inoue said Crawford number 1 too. UA-cam biased channel kno nun
Usyk a real one just like crawford, real recognise real
Terence Crawford is up there in all time, so spiteful and skilled in both stance, leather💪🏽. Till now, no flaw.
Facts!! They hate to see a brother on top
See that's why I rock with Usyk, he know what time it is!👊🏿👊🏿
Crawford Uysk Inoue. These are the stand out top 3 boxers of this era. Obviously everyone will have their own opinion as to the order.
The 3 best. Equally great in their own ways.
No order. Inoue got dropped in the first round. He won. Bud Crawford got more fights too.
... and let the church say AMEN 🙏🏾🤜🏿🤛🏿
Expect nothing less of the great Usyk
This even more why I like Usyk straight truth but I would actually put Usyk & Bud as my number 1.
@@peterudubra2593 My number 1 and 2 as well
Americans are obsessed with race and tribalism. Thats why the fights arent getting made, rather than call a duck the respective fan bases simp for their fighters.
Haters gonna hate but elite boxers and real boxing fans know that Terrence Crawford is P4P #1
Usyk is saying this because he's humble. Usyk's resume is considerably better than Crawfords.
usykkk was never avoided crawford was and that resume talk dont matter especially when you dont rematch a guy people thought you lost to
@ it actually does, Usyk has fought better quality competition. I don’t know if Bruce still debates other channels on his own but I’d love to discuss this. Also who do people think beat Usyk? The split decisions in his career are complete BS, he clearly beat Joshua the second time and Fury the first.
@@shawnterrance7204 Also Usyk was avoided and frozen out by Fury like Crawford was ducked by Spence and Thurman.
@@shawnterrance7204Please do not abuse the "Tripple K" where it ain't warranted. It ain't right to put that on Usyk name, but more importantly, overusing it will begin to diminish it's potency & impact the next time we go to use it on somebody who actually deserves it.
Terence has been the best pound for pound boxer for years and everyone knows it I don't know what's wrong with americans
The pound for pound list excludes the heavy weights
Usyk is not a career heavyweight, but I’m sure you know that
@victor, he is now and no disrespect to Usyk, but I already know nobody can beat him at any weight class unless another heavyweight beats him. I don't rate heavyweights on my p4p list and never have. I got Crawford one, Inoue two.
When Roy Jones Jnr won the heavyweight championship did you stop rating him pound for pound?
@@abuzainah1 @victor, Roy fought at heavyweight only one time. He won but he returned back down and fought. If Roy had intentions on staying at heavyweight (he did win a title in that fight and could have decided to defend it) I would have taken him off my p4p list. If Usyk stayed at cruiserweight, he wouldn't be a 2 time undisputed champion and I would have put him 3rd behind Bud and Inoue. Again no disrespect to Usyk, but the p4p list was not made for heavyweights and that's how I treat it. Nobody beat Usyk yet so I know he is the baddest man in boxing and I think he would beat Bud or Inoue if they went up to heavyweight.
💯 FACTS 🎤
Facts on facts on top of facts
When Crawford beats Canelo in May, this subject will be null and void. In fact, he'll be on even some of his biggest haters all time top 5 list. Pound for pound won't even be discussed after that.
I knew since the first time I saw Bud fight that he was damn near unbeatable. 👑
Crawford is close to top 30 all time. Wish he was more active tho
Bud been 1 p4p since he won undisputed at 140 .
Crawford could fight Prime Moses after he split the seas and people would say he’s ducking Jesus. Crawfords just like that, he’s a great but haters will always search for reasons to minimise his accomplishments.
Buds resume is absolutely fine, is it groundbreaking? No but because it’s not groundbreaking haters gotta go to the extreme and down it. And there’s always a new great hope to beat bud until they get their ass beat and they move into a new one. Boots was the last guy and ain’t even need to get his ass beat for people to move on.
Can't have a resume if no one is in line to fight you! Errol the only real one who took his beatdown like a G!
@IAM, just about everybody else Bud beat took their azz whoopin' like G's too. Maybe a few didn't take their azz whoopin' well.
Shoutout Caleb Plant he from America and was a Olympic alternate and former 168 world champion
Unfortunately Plant isn't on the p4p list and although I love Plant and I picked him to beat Canelo, the first time I picked against Canelo since he fought Lara, he didn't get the job done and I don't think Canelo will fight him again and why should he? Already beat Plant and got the knockout.
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Loma never was a 135r..but there is no money at 126 they thought.
It’s a beautiful thing to hear the truth about Boxing but it’s BAD! that it has to come from other parts of the World / earth; the states are PITIFUL.
Real boxers know whats up. Canelo asking for retirement money just to fight em. Hope they fight I know Crawford sneaky bulking up 💪🏾
Amen
Imagine if Usyk was American! He would have said he was #1 and then Bruce would be in his feelings ( I feel😂)
I really don’t recall in my life someone other than a so called black being number 1 one P4p like when Roy had it ,it transferred to Floyd then Ward then Crawford and trust me I was born in seventies I know who was who in 70s and 80s and it always was a Grass root Original Darkskin guy🤷🏽♂️
Hahaha! Of course😂
No debate needed… P4P 1#… is… THE FINAL BOSS… on the HARDEST LEVEL… Bud Crawford foo’
Bud is my favorite fighter but I got usuk #1 and bud #2
He also said his perfect fighter has the iQ of Andre ward
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Terence crawford been the real #1 p4p fighter since Floyd retired But IDK about crawford beating a pretty boy Floyd..I always thought p4p meant that if 2 fighters were in same weight class who would win skill for skill
Nah, Andre Ward was after Floyd.
@Reggie-n8l yeah he was I forgot about ward
The P4P is the Undisputed Heavyweight champion
The original term p4p was meant to delethe the best skilled smaller fighter from the heavyweight champion.... That's why the first powerful pound king was a welterweight turned middleweight.... Sugar ray robinson... I think you need to brush up on your boxing history
@montbrink4700
No dumbsss I'm the Boxing Hostorian before Sugar Ray Robinson they had a P4P before the queens berry rules that include Heavyweights also too p4p literally the best fighters regardless of weight class... No, in fact you need to brush up on history
@DRAGONMANEDUTAINMENT so pre Queensbury Rule ( And that's the correct spelling by the way Mister Historian) That means that " BOXING" would be in England.... Why would the english use the term pound for pound when that's not their metrics??.... Why wouldn't they use the term stone for stone??....MAN YOU FULL S%%%.....
@@DRAGONMANEDUTAINMENT Pre Queensbury Rule..... that wasn't boxing....that was more like wrestling... totally different sport
@@DRAGONMANEDUTAINMENT Now name some of this p4p fighters before sugar ray
Narratives got struck down in 24'.
Don't sleep on Plant he did his thing and still dangerously 2 losses Canelo, benevides
Usik came from cruiser weight
Usyk is just humble. He's the no.1 p4p and there's no doubt about it.hes literally beating the crap out of guys 40-50 lbs bigger than him.
Kinda the same thing when wilder was suppose to face aj then all the sudden he can’t box he got skinny legs he can’t sell in America
Idk...up until he beat spences ass half the youtubers believed it was spence
ua-cam.com/video/f4UzcyM9szI/v-deo.htmlsi=X_UlTuG3J1IKP4BK
Hey Bruce! It’s rare that I come across many Latinos in Australia, however, when I do interact with them, I always ask, “Do you consider yourself to be Spanish or brown”? They always respond with, “I’m Spanish”, and then I tell them, are you sure about that? You know that Europeans (Spaniards) colonized and conquered your people right? Then they call me an “Abo” (racial slur that’s used against Indigenous Australians) and walk away🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
Sounds to me like you should just mind your own business instead of deliberately provoking people and then crying when they put it on you.
@@Jeromewhite123sounds like he’s stating facts, if stating facts if provoking he shouldn’t stop
@@pt5728 He's not really, though, because he's saying it as if those people aren't of Spanish descent as well, when a lot of Latinos are.
@@ForwardFeedback So are you implying that Latinos should claim the identity of the people that colonized/subjugated them? I’m an Aboriginal Australian, I possess 40 percent British European blood as a result of European men violating my ancestors for over 90 years, does that make me British? Absolutely not. I’m not dumb enough to claim the identity of my oppressors.
@@blitztactique4689 If your White ancestors were Brits then yes, you're part English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh, just like any Latinos with Spanish ancestry are also part Spanish. That's how ancestry works.
Terrence a hall of famer but prime floyd HELL NO, prime floyd was too much
Dude, you ain't studied them them well enough. A prime Bud would be at Floyd and possibly knock him out. Styles make fights and Maidana, although he lost to Floyd twice, he gave the blueprint on that Philly shell defense. Maidana just didn't have the talent to beat Floyd. Bud would easily penetrate that Philly shell and smoke Floyd. I agree with Bradley.
when I think about it bro u make a lot of sense. If maidana was able to give some issues to Mayweather, then Crawford could definitely give that smoke to prime Floyd, @@Reggie-n8l
we are just racist and it shows.
Who's We?😐
We r Americans. Not black. By saying black means not Americans. Caucasian is Caucasian. Americans means indigenous Americans. Or Original Americans. It's in the Americans dictionary... it's united state not Americans. I'm America. America is my motherland and power base....
Yet ur the one who needs to have a black American #1, hmmmm! American arrogance at work once again!
I personally have Inoue at one, Usyk at two, and Crawford at three, but Crawford and Usyk are interchangeable to me. If Crawford was more active I might have him number one.
Uysk getting stop and bud get beat if he fight Nelo😂
😂😂😂😂😂. Goofy alert
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@ come back Saturday and see how goofy shit is
@@bigsoldier2 y’all guys don’t know boxing fury gone hurt uysk just like wilder in the rematch
@@bigsoldier2 if saying cap to saul beating bud you must be like 20 years old…did bud beat Maddy some say no but you think he can fight saul who is two weight class above him straight clown 🤡 man stop being lead by bias UA-camers