When tuning my race car suspension with an expert (Ron Sutton Race Technology) everything was adjusted based on tire temps. The goal was 2 degrees across the tread. Your inside tire being hotter was because it's an all wheel drive car and you're actually spinning the inside tire when accelerating out of corners. You're right, hotter on inside means too much camber but if there is too much cooling down after a hot lap, the outside of a tire gets more airflow than inside and that can skew your numbers. Tires get more heat from sliding than not sliding so keep that in mind. An understeery car will put more heat in front tires, an oversteery car puts more heat in back tires. Keep tuning tire pressures and alignment with temps.
Wheelspin aside, the inside front should have a greater temp difference across the face because it spends more time unloaded (static camber). The loaded side has more consistent temps due to dynamic camber wearing the tire more evenly.
Adam is like Takumi, battling himself in 2 different cars. He gets faster in one car then catches up and in the other and starts the endless cat and mouse race with himself
Pretty good laps, You were on the right track with the Tire Temps. If anything you could use a little less camber to even the tire temps. The Toyo is not the fastest street tire out there, it is a much older design. The Newer 200Tw tires like the Bridgestone RE71r will be worth 1-2 seconds on a track like that. Also for legitimacy I race Gridlife, SCCA ect and videos posted on my channel. If you want any further setup advice feel free to shoot me a message.
Also the AIM Solo is a VERY powerful device if used correctly. It is way more than a lap timer. You can dive way deeper into data analysis. You can even send your data out to a pro and he could tell you where you are gaining/ loosing time through which specific corners/lines.
@@AdamLZ So what happened was about 7-8 years ago a lot of the club racing organizations started to introduce 200tw Classes "To bring down the cost of racing" vs slicks or Hoosiers. After a couple years tire Mfg's started to pretty much know that if they marked their tires "200tw" even if they weren't they would sell better. So the newest 200 TW tires are realistically more like 100tw but marked up to sell more tires and fit into these classes. These are the Bridgestone RE71-R, Yokohama A052, Falken RT660k ( newest version) and the Falken RT615k. I have tested and ran all these tires As I race in multiple 200TW series, TYPICALLY the RE71R is the fastest of the group. The Toyo and AD08R is an "Old" tire in design and mostly used to look cool these days.
i have certainly appreciated Collete's presence, she knows racing has the same drive its a good addition to the channel in whatever regard it might be! keep at it i'm enjoying everything as always! also why not go up to the toyo RR tire since you track it only. i know they faded for ken in testing the escort but his testing had more lateral movement
@Matt Souza couldn’t agree more. Gotta ask yourself the question if this was just a another friend of Adams would they get the same attention from him and the subs. I doubt it, too many simps on this channel
I'd recommend a teensy tiny bit of toe out in the front, maybe 1/16th - 1/8th in to help decrease understeer on entry, but typically most people like just a tiny bit of push. It's hard to tell from the video on what to adjust with the front anti-roll bar, if yours is adjustable or not, but that could help with understeer as well. You're on the right track with tire temps, and they look fairly good. Decrease camber in the front by just a hair, half a degree or so. Stiffen up the front right damper by two clicks to start, that should push more of the car's weight to the left side and heat up the "outside" tire just a lil bit more and get more even wear and traction. If you're still seeing tire temps that are different between the left and right side, stiffen it up just a hair more, but don't go outside your comfort zone, you like your cars soft. EDIT: Also it's worth taking note that in AWD cars, the inside tire typically slips and spins compared to the outside tire, gaining more heat from that - but definitely shifting more weight to the outside tire with damper settings will help load it up more, and get more grip out of it. I'm writing this comment at 19:15, and I have a few tips. I'm not sure if you're stopping for cooldown every lap you show us or what, but keep moving, do a stint of 5-7 laps to get the tires up to temp, 1-3 isn't going to cut it. Also, since watching so far, I've only seen you take the front tire temps. Take the rear temps too. And most importantly, like Eric Rock said, there are some better tires out there than what you're using now. I don't race in a class that the Evo would participate in, so I don't have any recommendations. If you need additional setup tips or have questions for grip racing, let me know and I'd be happy to help. I'd love a data log file if possible, I analyse all my team's MoTec logs and have some data analysis programs that I can use. I'm also local-ish to you so if you need some tips at the track or prep before hand, shoot me a message.
@@AdamLZ Max's comments are right on for chassis setup. I would also recommend chasing the problem from the other end at the same time and experiment with your technique. Every car is different and benefits from a change in approach. A car understeers for 2 reasons. Either there is not enough load on the fronts to generate grip or there is too much causing them to overload. Solution to the first is to trail off the brakes slower and more deeply into the corner. This helps transfer weight to the front and unweight the rear. It frees up the rear and allows for the rotation you are looking for. If the fronts are overloaded, braking earlier and lighter will help keep the chassis more composed. Equally you can trail off the brakes earlier and at a faster rate. Try and think about the times you were understeering. What were you doing with the throttle, brakes and wheel? Where did that make the weight go? If you go to power too early then that means you could of carried 1-2 mph more past the end of braking point.
regarding the difference in temperature of LF and RF, the layout of the track is very important. And it looks like the one long lefthander also happens to be a banked corner, which effectively increases tyre load a huge amount. so the temperature rises a lot more from just that corner, where all the right handers are either slow corners, so not adding as much temp.
Since he has a 1 way LSD, wouldn't the inner front wheel be "spinning" if the LSD locks on accelerations like he said it does, this would also increase heat in the tire
@@kevo05sexactly what I thought. If there is aggressive LSD in front - in each slow right turn under acceleration inner wheel might spin due to loaded outside wheel has more grip. This explains overheating inner wheel in general as well as higher inside temps due in RH turns inside of the inner wheel is more affected due to static camber. Also front LSD might contribute to understeer...
Yep, definitely what I was thinking too, that corner was probably the longest one where a lot of heat would build up on that tyre. It's probably the hardest corner on the tyre too, you can hear it squealing mostly on that one more than the others
Be careful when you put more grip on the front the Evo has a tendency to oil starve itself in corners so adding a bigger sump at the same time would be a benefit
@@dawsonsgarage I agree fully, I'm local to knockhill racing circuit in Scotland which has lots of right hand corners and I have seen a few running the bottom end there. I also myself had a Tommi mak Evo 6 running a dry sump setup to stop this
This is the content we need during the Coors Light Virus! Really missing the daily uploads now but you seem happier so it's all good. Missed the Evo content
I was thinking because of the one big long sweeping left turn which he was push hard through would really heat up the right front tire much more then the left due to the longer sustained G's the right front was experiencing...explaining why it is hotter.. Could also be the way he corner balanced the car which I vaguely remember...as in I don't remember shit lol...
When you use the pyrometer you need to check it instantly after getting off track because the temp will equalibrate across the tyre and cool down even within 1 min of stopping
29:33 Am I the only one reading too much into the comment that Collete makes when she states "Maybe I just hate life and like complicated things. I'm mean I got the rotaries and I'm hanging out with you now (Adam) "
why is it that sometimes your videos have a spot were it just stops snd says “tap to retry” but tapping doesnt do anything so we miss a part of your video :/ it happens around 8:00
The tyre temps on the inner wheel will be caused by a combination of everything your trying to fix and how the cars setup. The front washing out will be scrubbing the inner wheel more than the outer wheel. The camber on a unloaded wheel is always more than a loaded one as the suspension geometry on the dual wishbone will increase camber as it compresses and will scrub the inner edge more on a inner wheel. The front lsd will also be applying an amount of torque to the inner wheel as it fights to distribute it across the front axle in a more even fashion. Think the opposite to a drift setup. The outer wheel you want to over rotate where as in a grip set up, you want the inner wheel to under rotate (not physically as it would lose traction, but just enough to promote turn in.) depending on your front lsd being 1way,1.5 or 2 way. it's hard to explain on a message 😅👍 hope it makes sense
The unloaded wheel will have more camber in effect because of the dual wishbone geometry is what I mean by the unloaded side having more heat on the inner edge etc
He can put on a marginally better tire but adding grip isn’t gonna fix his understeer issue. The car has to be set up to rotate better. It’s more involved than tires.
This is without a doubt my favorite video yet. Front camera angle with the speedo and circuit position was fantastic. The car sounds incredible 👌. Congrats on the lap time!
@@AdamLZ HAHAHAHAAHAHA i noticed you were watching one of his videos the other day, u should seriously consider getting a bass, they're so much fun! also play more blues broo. and when all of this blows over you should come down to Chile, car scene is growing fast. keep it up Adam, that E36 is turning out SICK
That Evo is so sweet and sounds amazing, it almost makes me think why you would want the Porsche but then you get reminded that Porsche can do laps all day no problem while the Evo will inevitably always require some form of tinkering when you take it to the track.
I was thinking more along the lines of a gt3rs is a 200k car. Adams got enough money to send the Evo into a wall and buy 5 more by the end of the week whereas a gt3rs is gonna hurt if he wrecks it
Love the Evo track content! Very cool to see someone stepping through car setup like that. With the temps for the camber settings, it's super important to get those measurements more or less right when you come off of a hot lap for best results. Otherwise with any camber, the outside edge will cool down quicker and can throw you off. Otherwise your methodology looks spot on. The FIRM is a fun track. I was just down there for the first time myself in February. 'Minute 16 is pretty dang quick. Respect.
Hey Adam, if you want tire recommendations i would say try out the Nankang AR-1s and try adjusting your camber a bit in the front via adding a small amount of degree differences negatively. You can also try lowering the front or if not possible raise the rear. Just small little things help on the track aswell is turning in a bit later on your line. This is a small little trick i was taught and it's hard to really do since once we run a line so much we gain muscle memory but if possible try that method aswell next time!
Lap times got better as you progressed, Evo 5 my fav in your collection. The best sounding in my opinion is the BMW... You can't script this BMW just shuts off in traffic... The tire shine held well....
The front right tire is hot because of the track layout. That tire has all of the load, when you turn right the weight and force goes onto the right tire, and vice versa. In some top heavy cars you can see the tires actually life when cornering hard. You can run unequal pressures to help this, but different temps are normal for tracking like you are.
Once Speed Academy finishes their Evo. You should head up to Canada to go head-to-head with Pete's Evo. Btw, let Collete get some input on the setup. She is a former rallycross driver. Maybe she can help with the setup, again, and the lines you're taking. And for tires, the Yokohama Advan A052's are a lot stickier based on the majority of drivers who do autocross and track. And Jackie Ding says that those tires do last a bit longer than the RE-71R's.
@@1E11evenMoto You know how autocorrect is. I've known her racing since 2015 and followed her since when she was in GRC. Thanks for letting me know. I've just fixed it.
Adam a lot track setups bring the ride height up on the side you’re sitting so that on track the car is level with you in it. I don’t know if you’ve done that but that might be why that tire is loading up. Because there’s extra weight on it because you’re sitting on the right side.
Pressure doesnt really matter, its a means to generate the correct temperature. Also on camber, a simple trick we used to use is a piece of chalk to draw a line across the tire and down the wall. Youll get instant feedback on how close to the sidewall you're using. I also note you're driving is like a rwd style. You need to be slower in and on the throttle through the corners to get the front end to grip. Being front engine and awd its going to understeer off throttle due to the F-R weight distribution being front bias and the drivetrain being unloaded. When you get a bit better also try trailing the brakes with your left foot while on the throttle to manage entry speed then as you hit the apex peel off the brake. It builds boost and will shoot you out of the corner. Its very hard on the brakes but it works on awd to do several things.
Love the Initial D style music with the FPV gopro footage. The Evo is by far my favorite car of yours, that thing is such a dream car for me, its freakin perfect. I might consider it to be my all time favorite looking JDM, wish I had one. The closest I have gotten was my 99GSX, but I dont think you can really compare them.
Rival 1.5 S. It's the tire to beat right now if you read through tests published by Grassroots Motorsport. Firsthand reports from people I've driven with on Rivals is that they like how progressive the tire feels as you come back from pushing it past the limit, vs an RE71, which loses composure and doesn't immediately come back when overdriven.
Damn that’s so typical with E36s. At the moment you think you got all things sorted out - she dies! So annoying. Love the video! Love that Collete is in the video, love that you are in Collete’s video. Double is always better! Happy Eastern! Be safe!
No joke, once you said you were going to be analytical in this video, the video stopped and my wifi stopped working! My computer said awww hell no! hahahaha
What is with people on here.... No he isn’t “defiantly” lol 😂 I wrote and I quote “ he’s Driving a Legend” meaning he’s driving a basically track purposed Evo 5 which was a legendary car on the circuits when Mitsubishi Launched it..... Jesus it’s like teaching kids to read lol
These EVO track days & the Japan drifting videos are easily my favorite ones. Just can’t beat them. Great driving as per usual, keep stayin safe homie!
The optimal tire temp that you found online is going to be referring to carcass temp. You want surface temps to infer about your alignment setup, which is what you're looking at with the pyrometer. Carcass temp is going to tell you more of "is this the right size tire for this weight of car on this size/speed/type of track" However, having logged Texense IR 4 channel tire temps before, the speed with which surface temps change during transient driving is absurd. With high slip, we would see temps jump to 200f and drop back down to 140-150f in just a few tire revolutions. (These things are so good you can see hot spots from brake lockups passing by them every revolution) The best thing you can do with the pyrometer is check the surface temps as quickly as possible when you pull off track. Once the car sits for any amount of time the temps are already equalizing across the tire. We did a lot of skidpad, slalom, and straight line Accel/braking to get our tire/arb/damper setting right. Our chassis tuning usually goes something like this: • low speed small skidpad testing (dampers full soft, any aero set as neutral as possible, arb tuning only (blade type ARBs are awesome here) to get the car as neutral as possible while in steady state cornering) • High speed large skidpad (No touching ARBs, you've tuned those, adjust aero to get balance back to neutral during steady state cornering) • Slalom testing (Damper tuning. Overall, you'll want to run the dampers as soft as you can get away with while still having the response that you desire, you can test different slalom spacings/offsets to find the response you desire. Softer damping means less spike in contact patch forces over bumps and undulations which means more mechanical grip. But softer damping also means more overshoot when throwing a car into turns meaning it's harder to drive. (needs controlled/ramped steering/acceleration inputs) • Track driving (alignment tuning here, trying to normalize temps across the tire as much as possible. Caster adjustment can do a lot in the front to allow you to have stellar braking and cornering tire temp distributions. Don't really have this trick in the rear. This is also the time to have adjustable brake bias. Bias bars are king, proportioning valves have hysteresis and IMO don't belong on racetracks.) Other things: Getting rebound/compression damper settings balanced can be tricky. If you have damper pots, in some forms of racing, teams will run more rebound damping and less compression which will cause the car to "pack down" or heave down with repeated bump hits allowing underbody aero to be more effective. Make note when you're driving the car of speed effects, car stability changes with speed, if the car begins to feel unstable with speed, increased damping can go a long ways. If understeer/oversteer changes noticably with speed, you likely have an aero balance problem (generally speaking the CP should be rearward of the car's CG) I mentioned brake bias tuning in track driving, on our car, we used aero to manipulate grip to where we had ideal brake proportioning right around our normal corner entry speed. Above that speed, fronts would lock first and the car is stable, below that speed and you could lock the rears first for the really tight corners. This was also driver adjustable via a Tilton bias adjuster knob to account for tire wear and variations in conditions and grip levels.
Hey just wanted to say im a massive fan ive been going though alot latly just last nigh i tried to ove r dose but i put you video on and it helped calm me down a have a huge passion for drift but cant utilize it so i watch your vids i just wanna say keep up the great work you helping me through alot
you may have more toe-out on that side or toe-in if the car was aligned that way or possible off alignment, that tire is scrubbing when going straight, possibly.
@Power 2 Weight because a slipping tyre will always generate more heat, hence why drifting cars shred rear tyres due to them constantly losing traction
Maybe I'm just being simple but he checks the tire pressure first and then the temperature, the first tire is in the shade and the second is in the sun maybe that's the twenty degree difference?
Today's movie theater analogies are next level ! Love the Evo , love the track content especially the lap data footage and absolutely love Adam + Colette 👍
I said this on the last Evo 5 track video and I’ll say it on this one, we need more Evo 5 track content like this. These videos are the best imo. 🤷🏻♂️
When Alberto hit the drive shaft with a hammer it sounded like a hit marker in COD😂
Bro wtf I thought the same
I thought he added that sound I hit rewind to see if I missed the X
hahaha it really does
COD real life remake, 2020 colorized
YEAHHH I thought they edited it in!
When tuning my race car suspension with an expert (Ron Sutton Race Technology) everything was adjusted based on tire temps. The goal was 2 degrees across the tread. Your inside tire being hotter was because it's an all wheel drive car and you're actually spinning the inside tire when accelerating out of corners. You're right, hotter on inside means too much camber but if there is too much cooling down after a hot lap, the outside of a tire gets more airflow than inside and that can skew your numbers. Tires get more heat from sliding than not sliding so keep that in mind. An understeery car will put more heat in front tires, an oversteery car puts more heat in back tires. Keep tuning tire pressures and alignment with temps.
This comment!
Mark Sawatsky tire temp wizard
Wheelspin aside, the inside front should have a greater temp difference across the face because it spends more time unloaded (static camber). The loaded side has more consistent temps due to dynamic camber wearing the tire more evenly.
I dont much about cars but i do know some stuff and like cars
I wish i knew as much as adam and you 😂
The Evo V is by far one of my favourite cars
Samuel Gillespie the V is easily my favorite car.
Yes
Yessir..that thing is well engineered
@@svKam mine also for sure love this thing
Samuel Gillespie out of his cars by far the best one
Adam is like Takumi, battling himself in 2 different cars. He gets faster in one car then catches up and in the other and starts the endless cat and mouse race with himself
Most Underrated comment right here!
That's actually pretty spot on right now. Nice. Bet you he get faster in the evo. Next goal get the gt3 faster. But hey I'm not one to complain.
now he needs to get himself a wrx 😂
Kaleb Carlson and an ae86
Imagine if he does touge racing
Pretty good laps, You were on the right track with the Tire Temps. If anything you could use a little less camber to even the tire temps. The Toyo is not the fastest street tire out there, it is a much older design. The Newer 200Tw tires like the Bridgestone RE71r will be worth 1-2 seconds on a track like that. Also for legitimacy I race Gridlife, SCCA ect and videos posted on my channel. If you want any further setup advice feel free to shoot me a message.
Also the AIM Solo is a VERY powerful device if used correctly. It is way more than a lap timer. You can dive way deeper into data analysis. You can even send your data out to a pro and he could tell you where you are gaining/ loosing time through which specific corners/lines.
Wow! Even though the treadwear is so much higher they are that much better? How does that compare to the AD05Rs people are also recommending
@@AdamLZ So what happened was about 7-8 years ago a lot of the club racing organizations started to introduce 200tw Classes "To bring down the cost of racing" vs slicks or Hoosiers. After a couple years tire Mfg's started to pretty much know that if they marked their tires "200tw" even if they weren't they would sell better. So the newest 200 TW tires are realistically more like 100tw but marked up to sell more tires and fit into these classes. These are the Bridgestone RE71-R, Yokohama A052, Falken RT660k ( newest version) and the Falken RT615k. I have tested and ran all these tires As I race in multiple 200TW series, TYPICALLY the RE71R is the fastest of the group. The Toyo and AD08R is an "Old" tire in design and mostly used to look cool these days.
Agreed. Re71r is a real fast street tire.
Eric rock, do you actually have first hand experience with the new rt660’s?
that evo 5 shreds hecka gnar. love watching it rage
i have certainly appreciated Collete's presence, she knows racing has the same drive its a good addition to the channel in whatever regard it might be! keep at it i'm enjoying everything as always!
also why not go up to the toyo RR tire since you track it only. i know they faded for ken in testing the escort but his testing had more lateral movement
Ya I really love seeing collete in the vids, awesome. I totally agree with the tires good idea
Do y'all have her channel?
@Matt Souza just unsubscribe then so we don’t have to read your irrelevant comments 🙄
@Matt Souza lmao the butthurt
@Matt Souza couldn’t agree more. Gotta ask yourself the question if this was just a another friend of Adams would they get the same attention from him and the subs. I doubt it, too many simps on this channel
"I'm hangin' out with you now... OOP" Good for you dude hope you're happy !
Adam LZ: She Rips. I almost want to take it out on the track.
E36 2J Swap: Oh yeah let me die on yeah
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We need Adam to go back to Germany with Rudnick and Tommy, and bring the evo/gt3rs/gt350 to the Nürburgring Nordscheleife!!
Don't think he will ship his car out there again since it was so much trouble last time and the shipping yard stole parts of his BMW and so on.
Would be cool for them to come back, with or without a car, I would try to go there for sure
Should arrange a collab with JP Performance, that would be so awesome 🤙
On god
I don't think that'll happen for awhile with the whole virus situation
Adam, thank you for advertising your brand.
Sincerely, everyone (i guess).
It would be cool if Adam had a GoPro near his pedals so we can see his technique👌
Heal toe brake, accelerate
@@jaydangeary7117 *heel
@@jaydangeary7117 He might be left foot braking but I didn't notice
Loud pedal make loud noises. Go fast. GO FAST. F A S T E R. And brake.
“Now you have a big smile on your face after my head’s been lifted” adam
Seth Rimmer I’ve been searching for this comment
I'd recommend a teensy tiny bit of toe out in the front, maybe 1/16th - 1/8th in to help decrease understeer on entry, but typically most people like just a tiny bit of push. It's hard to tell from the video on what to adjust with the front anti-roll bar, if yours is adjustable or not, but that could help with understeer as well. You're on the right track with tire temps, and they look fairly good. Decrease camber in the front by just a hair, half a degree or so. Stiffen up the front right damper by two clicks to start, that should push more of the car's weight to the left side and heat up the "outside" tire just a lil bit more and get more even wear and traction. If you're still seeing tire temps that are different between the left and right side, stiffen it up just a hair more, but don't go outside your comfort zone, you like your cars soft.
EDIT: Also it's worth taking note that in AWD cars, the inside tire typically slips and spins compared to the outside tire, gaining more heat from that - but definitely shifting more weight to the outside tire with damper settings will help load it up more, and get more grip out of it.
I'm writing this comment at 19:15, and I have a few tips. I'm not sure if you're stopping for cooldown every lap you show us or what, but keep moving, do a stint of 5-7 laps to get the tires up to temp, 1-3 isn't going to cut it. Also, since watching so far, I've only seen you take the front tire temps. Take the rear temps too. And most importantly, like Eric Rock said, there are some better tires out there than what you're using now. I don't race in a class that the Evo would participate in, so I don't have any recommendations.
If you need additional setup tips or have questions for grip racing, let me know and I'd be happy to help. I'd love a data log file if possible, I analyse all my team's MoTec logs and have some data analysis programs that I can use. I'm also local-ish to you so if you need some tips at the track or prep before hand, shoot me a message.
Thank you!!! I am currently running 1/8 out in front :)
@@AdamLZ 1/8 could be a little much for dry tarmac also try disconnecting the front roll bar and if needed soften up the rear
@@AdamLZ Max's comments are right on for chassis setup. I would also recommend chasing the problem from the other end at the same time and experiment with your technique. Every car is different and benefits from a change in approach. A car understeers for 2 reasons. Either there is not enough load on the fronts to generate grip or there is too much causing them to overload. Solution to the first is to trail off the brakes slower and more deeply into the corner. This helps transfer weight to the front and unweight the rear. It frees up the rear and allows for the rotation you are looking for. If the fronts are overloaded, braking earlier and lighter will help keep the chassis more composed. Equally you can trail off the brakes earlier and at a faster rate.
Try and think about the times you were understeering. What were you doing with the throttle, brakes and wheel? Where did that make the weight go? If you go to power too early then that means you could of carried 1-2 mph more past the end of braking point.
regarding the difference in temperature of LF and RF, the layout of the track is very important. And it looks like the one long lefthander also happens to be a banked corner, which effectively increases tyre load a huge amount. so the temperature rises a lot more from just that corner, where all the right handers are either slow corners, so not adding as much temp.
Since he has a 1 way LSD, wouldn't the inner front wheel be "spinning" if the LSD locks on accelerations like he said it does, this would also increase heat in the tire
@@kevo05sexactly what I thought. If there is aggressive LSD in front - in each slow right turn under acceleration inner wheel might spin due to loaded outside wheel has more grip. This explains overheating inner wheel in general as well as higher inside temps due in RH turns inside of the inner wheel is more affected due to static camber. Also front LSD might contribute to understeer...
@@777MAV this makes more sense than anything else I have heard! Everyone like this so adam sees it
Yep, definitely what I was thinking too, that corner was probably the longest one where a lot of heat would build up on that tyre. It's probably the hardest corner on the tyre too, you can hear it squealing mostly on that one more than the others
This could be a thing. Wouldn't also hurt to re align on a corner balance machine as well.
Everytime Collete and Adam interact im smiling because they are always lowkey flirting😅
Everytime ppl like you have to comment when two grown adults of different sexes have a conversation is quite annoying and childish...
@@clutchkickpj693 your problem bro
@@clutchkickpj693 badddd people always lookin too deep smh
Collete “oop🤭”. you two have good energy it’s very entertaining to watch
Lol you caught that too😂😂
“I think I just like complicated things, I got the rotary and I’m hanging out with you now.”
LOL 🤣
Wait what did I miss it
Time?
29:44
21:19 I like that clip! It’s like a scene from initial d before a race starts!! Good music and aesthetics
Fr it was sick
You should build a rally car, i mean you have cars for various types of racing, having one for rally would be cool.
he has the subaru for that
He has a subaru?
Nevermind... The wagon?
@@Chris-nq6cm yeah he have Subaru wrx at Jimmy shop in connecuticut
And then he can build a proper Subaru and get a little more respect for the flat 4 life :)
He also has a sick turbo side by side on ignite e90.. lol
29:45 thats it there boys
Lmfao they totally have the hots for each other😂
Be careful when you put more grip on the front the Evo has a tendency to oil starve itself in corners so adding a bigger sump at the same time would be a benefit
they definitely do especially on hard right turns , dry sump is the way to go
@@dawsonsgarage I agree fully, I'm local to knockhill racing circuit in Scotland which has lots of right hand corners and I have seen a few running the bottom end there. I also myself had a Tommi mak Evo 6 running a dry sump setup to stop this
Gary
ahhh Knockhill- the British isles Mecca of sausage kerbs
What a track though
Or going balls to the walls with dry sump😄🤪❤️
“She was going to get a Subaru.” As he laughs. Didn’t Taylor Ray buy a Subaru 😂😅
I suppose it's all about your budget.
Paradise Attack Adam also owns a Subaru, his beater up north
I totally forgot about the Subaru wagon he bought with Jimmy
@ thought they both sold them
Acclimatising when did this happen?!?
This is the content we need during the Coors Light Virus! Really missing the daily uploads now but you seem happier so it's all good. Missed the Evo content
This Wuhanic Plague is fucking up all kind of shit!
If you wanna do some Time Attack stuff let me know! We can do some EVO vs STi content! 🤘🏻
I can imagine Adam scrolling through the comments looking for someone who was able to interpret the data he found😂
I was thinking because of the one big long sweeping left turn which he was push hard through would really heat up the right front tire much more then the left due to the longer sustained G's the right front was experiencing...explaining why it is hotter..
Could also be the way he corner balanced the car which I vaguely remember...as in I don't remember shit lol...
mint seeing you lads here
When you use the pyrometer you need to check it instantly after getting off track because the temp will equalibrate across the tyre and cool down even within 1 min of stopping
No one:
Some bloke’s girlfriend at 3am Netflix and chill: 2:05
Streetboyz legendaru
Streetboyz yes Taylor ray did get a Subaru
Lol
Alberto stroke it harder
“For anyone that a GT3RS, psshhh” 😂
„Motorcycle limiter - WROORRRRRRRRRRRRR” -Adam LZ
Cool to see the evo’s speed on the straights since we never really see how fast his cars actually are
29:33 Am I the only one reading too much into the comment that Collete makes when she states "Maybe I just hate life and like complicated things. I'm mean I got the rotaries and I'm hanging out with you now (Adam) "
I heard it too. The way she reacted
👉👌
Theyz fukkin on the side and collette wants to know what’s the deal👀👀
@@heyitsjunior7870 I know!! Her face 😲
i saw it as a compliment to Adam bc the chemistry is pretty obvious. she said "hanging out" but she might have meant "going out"
"I am not really chasing the lap times" hmm what was the title, oh I see what happened 😂
why is it that sometimes your videos have a spot were it just stops snd says “tap to retry” but tapping doesnt do anything so we miss a part of your video :/ it happens around 8:00
It a UA-cam not Adam was fine for me, that or he got a copywrite claim and had to clip a tiny part of the video post release
Same
I’ve got the exact same thing at the exact same time in the video
Same 😓
Lmfao sammmeeee
Collete is cute, I can't be the only one who thinks that😂💀
She bad AF 🕶
@@redwoodjimmy164 it's that Puerto Rican DNA, we built up😂🇵🇷🇵🇷
Adam thinks this too
Dude Nicole shot herself in the foot for sure
Ur not :)
cant believe how quick that evo is out of corners. I can almost feel the g forces though the camera. Not just the grip...it gets into boost so quick
I feel you😂
Maxes out at 1.8g Jesus
That's what i thought this thing is crazy
The tyre temps on the inner wheel will be caused by a combination of everything your trying to fix and how the cars setup. The front washing out will be scrubbing the inner wheel more than the outer wheel. The camber on a unloaded wheel is always more than a loaded one as the suspension geometry on the dual wishbone will increase camber as it compresses and will scrub the inner edge more on a inner wheel. The front lsd will also be applying an amount of torque to the inner wheel as it fights to distribute it across the front axle in a more even fashion. Think the opposite to a drift setup. The outer wheel you want to over rotate where as in a grip set up, you want the inner wheel to under rotate (not physically as it would lose traction, but just enough to promote turn in.) depending on your front lsd being 1way,1.5 or 2 way. it's hard to explain on a message 😅👍 hope it makes sense
The unloaded wheel will have more camber in effect because of the dual wishbone geometry is what I mean by the unloaded side having more heat on the inner edge etc
So matching Evo's is what I'm hearing
Isaac .40sx until she inevitably paints hers pink
Should get a Evo 10. They’re porkier but do in fact handle better on track.
@@Kevhoe As someone who owns a JDM evo 7 and have driven 5,7,8,9 and 10 around a track id say 9 is by far best around track.
Peter Griffin 9 vs. 10 ua-cam.com/video/XTuxAW2pVz4/v-deo.html
I love how Adam had the f-yeah speck on the Evo... That's love !
You've gotta try the hankook ventus TD's homie.. there's a reason why they were banned from wtac in Aus.. you won't regret it..
stole the words right out of my mouth lmao
He can put on a marginally better tire but adding grip isn’t gonna fix his understeer issue. The car has to be set up to rotate better. It’s more involved than tires.
This is without a doubt my favorite video yet. Front camera angle with the speedo and circuit position was fantastic. The car sounds incredible 👌. Congrats on the lap time!
30:32 you've been watching too much Davie504 Adam lmaooo
glad someone caught the reference!
@@AdamLZ HAHAHAHAAHAHA i noticed you were watching one of his videos the other day, u should seriously consider getting a bass, they're so much fun! also play more blues broo. and when all of this blows over you should come down to Chile, car scene is growing fast. keep it up Adam, that E36 is turning out SICK
I knew it when u started saying "slapp like" lol
Davie504 is the man 😂
Epico
At 19:01 in a typically super clean video:
"Isn't this thing fucking sick?!"
Love it. Keep em coming!
That Evo is so sweet and sounds amazing, it almost makes me think why you would want the Porsche but then you get reminded that Porsche can do laps all day no problem while the Evo will inevitably always require some form of tinkering when you take it to the track.
Cause its dope.
Gt3 is a gt3 regardless what car you own. but I do agree the evo does good on turning corners at high speed
I was thinking more along the lines of a gt3rs is a 200k car. Adams got enough money to send the Evo into a wall and buy 5 more by the end of the week whereas a gt3rs is gonna hurt if he wrecks it
An Evo with just bolt ons and a good tire is a Daily/Track weapon
Love the Evo track content! Very cool to see someone stepping through car setup like that. With the temps for the camber settings, it's super important to get those measurements more or less right when you come off of a hot lap for best results. Otherwise with any camber, the outside edge will cool down quicker and can throw you off. Otherwise your methodology looks spot on. The FIRM is a fun track. I was just down there for the first time myself in February. 'Minute 16 is pretty dang quick. Respect.
TJ complaining about missing truffle toast bread vs Adam wanting stickier tires 🤣
Ones a stupid kid with shitty taste, the other actually drives. Not comparable
T,J is a tool
Hey Adam, if you want tire recommendations i would say try out the Nankang AR-1s and try adjusting your camber a bit in the front via adding a small amount of degree differences negatively. You can also try lowering the front or if not possible raise the rear. Just small little things help on the track aswell is turning in a bit later on your line. This is a small little trick i was taught and it's hard to really do since once we run a line so much we gain muscle memory but if possible try that method aswell next time!
"This thing is wild... and you´re crazy" easy on him girl
Like watching an old video of BestMotoring without subs. Awesome freaking vid!!! The Evo is looking and sounding incredible!
Lap times got better as you progressed, Evo 5 my fav in your collection. The best sounding in my opinion is the BMW...
You can't script this BMW just shuts off in traffic...
The tire shine held well....
The front right tire is hot because of the track layout. That tire has all of the load, when you turn right the weight and force goes onto the right tire, and vice versa. In some top heavy cars you can see the tires actually life when cornering hard. You can run unequal pressures to help this, but different temps are normal for tracking like you are.
Once Speed Academy finishes their Evo. You should head up to Canada to go head-to-head with Pete's Evo.
Btw, let Collete get some input on the setup. She is a former rallycross driver. Maybe she can help with the setup, again, and the lines you're taking.
And for tires, the Yokohama Advan A052's are a lot stickier based on the majority of drivers who do autocross and track. And Jackie Ding says that those tires do last a bit longer than the RE-71R's.
He wouldn't be able to get his car back in from canada
Her name is Collette! Haha college wtf 🤣
@@m200mw he could go their I know that he wanted to go to the FF
@@1E11evenMoto You know how autocorrect is. I've known her racing since 2015 and followed her since when she was in GRC. Thanks for letting me know. I've just fixed it.
@@michaelpan7737 haha that damn autocorrect 🤣
The edit with the hud for your mph and track map with the killer music was an awesome touch bro 🤘🏼
“Anybody that owns a GT3RS... PFFF” Got me good😂 I will slap like now ✋
epico
Andrew Beliard It’s a reference to a youtuber called davie504
@@coseuse i heard tt3rs too
Adam a lot track setups bring the ride height up on the side you’re sitting so that on track the car is level with you in it. I don’t know if you’ve done that but that might be why that tire is loading up. Because there’s extra weight on it because you’re sitting on the right side.
I always enjoy your vids especially when miss Colette is involved 😁 keep up the great work and be safe as always
Pressure doesnt really matter, its a means to generate the correct temperature. Also on camber, a simple trick we used to use is a piece of chalk to draw a line across the tire and down the wall. Youll get instant feedback on how close to the sidewall you're using.
I also note you're driving is like a rwd style. You need to be slower in and on the throttle through the corners to get the front end to grip. Being front engine and awd its going to understeer off throttle due to the F-R weight distribution being front bias and the drivetrain being unloaded. When you get a bit better also try trailing the brakes with your left foot while on the throttle to manage entry speed then as you hit the apex peel off the brake. It builds boost and will shoot you out of the corner. Its very hard on the brakes but it works on awd to do several things.
More downforce in the front could reduce load on both front tires
I might try to get a splitter :)
@@AdamLZ canards as well?
Why would adding downforce reduce the loads?
Ryan's Radness Maybe less from the tires doing all the work for traction? Maybe
@@traxxasslash95 spreading the load from mechanical grip to downforce maybe
Love the Initial D style music with the FPV gopro footage. The Evo is by far my favorite car of yours, that thing is such a dream car for me, its freakin perfect. I might consider it to be my all time favorite looking JDM, wish I had one. The closest I have gotten was my 99GSX, but I dont think you can really compare them.
You two are fun to watch together. Love the interaction!
Rival 1.5 S. It's the tire to beat right now if you read through tests published by Grassroots Motorsport. Firsthand reports from people I've driven with on Rivals is that they like how progressive the tire feels as you come back from pushing it past the limit, vs an RE71, which loses composure and doesn't immediately come back when overdriven.
Anyone having problems at 8:18?
Start @ 8:22
Benjamin Trinh thank you man
Thanks
Benjamin Trinh thanks dude!
Thx
That front camera view with telemetry is fucking awesome, at times pulling 1.8 G's is insane. That Evo is mental.
2:30am here in the UK, and I guess sleep can wait extra 30 minutes🤷♂️
ADAM YOUR KILLING IT!! I have been watching your UA-cam for a while and there’s a lot of interesting comment! Made me want to start one!!
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Raccoons in dumpsters: 0:16
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
"shes got a big smile on her face now my heads been lifted" oh yeah Adam knows whats up haha
What’s up Adam !! Big as inspiration! I’m you got me vlogging working on s13 hatch on my channel ! Thanks you so much !!!
Damn that’s so typical with E36s. At the moment you think you got all things sorted out - she dies! So annoying. Love the video! Love that Collete is in the video, love that you are in Collete’s video. Double is always better! Happy Eastern! Be safe!
No joke, once you said you were going to be analytical in this video, the video stopped and my wifi stopped working! My computer said awww hell no! hahahaha
Shifting is definitely on point when Adam is driving his evo
strips out interior, then complains about no cup holders
Aaron Randall-jones my stock sedan does not have any lolp
29:45 CONFIRMED !!!
Loving the contents bro....you and that rotary girl😂 are two of my favorite youtubers right now💯🔥👍
17:56 my favorite corner of the track lol Also, awesome driving & love the way the video was edited in 22:10
30:32 Slapp like now!!!
Legend has it that Adam's stache has a mesh density of 5 microns hence the lack of need for a face mask.
28:07 What the hell is he saying? All I hear is: bc there's so much seamen there. (typo is intentional)
Träy steam in there
I'm with ya bro
@@Jonas-ul9co Ooh xDD
He was Cookin 24:24 and he’s driving a legend, can’t wait to see the Midnight skyline fully built also
No he is defiantly not a driving legend. He's good. But he's not that good
@@psychosimracer1436 read again, "he's driving A legend" and not "he's a driving legend" lol. The legend here is the Evo.
What is with people on here.... No he isn’t “defiantly” lol 😂 I wrote and I quote “ he’s Driving a Legend” meaning he’s driving a basically track purposed Evo 5 which was a legendary car on the circuits when Mitsubishi Launched it..... Jesus it’s like teaching kids to read lol
Also would mind seeing what Colette could do in that car on that track as a racer!
These EVO track days & the Japan drifting videos are easily my favorite ones. Just can’t beat them. Great driving as per usual, keep stayin safe homie!
“WhErEs ThE yElLoW eVo”
In Australia... if he still owns it lol not to mention the red evo in the UK
The optimal tire temp that you found online is going to be referring to carcass temp. You want surface temps to infer about your alignment setup, which is what you're looking at with the pyrometer. Carcass temp is going to tell you more of "is this the right size tire for this weight of car on this size/speed/type of track"
However, having logged Texense IR 4 channel tire temps before, the speed with which surface temps change during transient driving is absurd. With high slip, we would see temps jump to 200f and drop back down to 140-150f in just a few tire revolutions. (These things are so good you can see hot spots from brake lockups passing by them every revolution)
The best thing you can do with the pyrometer is check the surface temps as quickly as possible when you pull off track. Once the car sits for any amount of time the temps are already equalizing across the tire.
We did a lot of skidpad, slalom, and straight line Accel/braking to get our tire/arb/damper setting right.
Our chassis tuning usually goes something like this:
• low speed small skidpad testing (dampers full soft, any aero set as neutral as possible, arb tuning only (blade type ARBs are awesome here) to get the car as neutral as possible while in steady state cornering)
• High speed large skidpad (No touching ARBs, you've tuned those, adjust aero to get balance back to neutral during steady state cornering)
• Slalom testing (Damper tuning. Overall, you'll want to run the dampers as soft as you can get away with while still having the response that you desire, you can test different slalom spacings/offsets to find the response you desire. Softer damping means less spike in contact patch forces over bumps and undulations which means more mechanical grip. But softer damping also means more overshoot when throwing a car into turns meaning it's harder to drive. (needs controlled/ramped steering/acceleration inputs)
• Track driving (alignment tuning here, trying to normalize temps across the tire as much as possible. Caster adjustment can do a lot in the front to allow you to have stellar braking and cornering tire temp distributions. Don't really have this trick in the rear. This is also the time to have adjustable brake bias. Bias bars are king, proportioning valves have hysteresis and IMO don't belong on racetracks.)
Other things:
Getting rebound/compression damper settings balanced can be tricky. If you have damper pots, in some forms of racing, teams will run more rebound damping and less compression which will cause the car to "pack down" or heave down with repeated bump hits allowing underbody aero to be more effective.
Make note when you're driving the car of speed effects, car stability changes with speed, if the car begins to feel unstable with speed, increased damping can go a long ways. If understeer/oversteer changes noticably with speed, you likely have an aero balance problem (generally speaking the CP should be rearward of the car's CG)
I mentioned brake bias tuning in track driving, on our car, we used aero to manipulate grip to where we had ideal brake proportioning right around our normal corner entry speed. Above that speed, fronts would lock first and the car is stable, below that speed and you could lock the rears first for the really tight corners. This was also driver adjustable via a Tilton bias adjuster knob to account for tire wear and variations in conditions and grip levels.
Try some Nankang AR-1 or some Maxxis RC-1, both are 100 tread wear.
Hey just wanted to say im a massive fan ive been going though alot latly just last nigh i tried to ove r dose but i put you video on and it helped calm me down a have a huge passion for drift but cant utilize it so i watch your vids i just wanna say keep up the great work you helping me through alot
you may have more toe-out on that side or toe-in if the car was aligned that way or possible off alignment, that tire is scrubbing when going straight, possibly.
This video was so lit, the two of you and the Evo 🔥🔥🔥
The inside wheel has less weight when cornering which makes it slip/slide more then grip which increases temps
@Power 2 Weight because a slipping tyre will always generate more heat, hence why drifting cars shred rear tyres due to them constantly losing traction
@Power 2 Weight that doesnt sound logical whatsoever do you know how lsd works
the track has more right turns than left turns so it makes sense that the tires on the right side are hotter
Yall arent realizing its a clockwise circuit, left front always going to wear and heat up the most.
Maybe I'm just being simple but he checks the tire pressure first and then the temperature, the first tire is in the shade and the second is in the sun maybe that's the twenty degree difference?
Just... wow man, you are fast... really fast! Keep it up and good luck with beating this new record!
30:34 IS THAT A DAVIE 504 IMPRESSION? IF YES DANG YOU'RE A MAN OF CULTURE
Lol its is he says in another comment
Today's movie theater analogies are next level ! Love the Evo , love the track content especially the lap data footage and absolutely love Adam + Colette 👍
no one:
Minecraft when you shot somebody with a bow 1:27
I gotta say it. Your track videos are of my favorite content. You are a mad man behind the wheel of that car! So! Sick! Love you bro!
Keep collete around for a while bro, its nice to have a female on the channel. Especially one with car/racing knowledge
Some sick driving Adam! Cant wait to see more track action in the GT3 some time soon, hopefully
When I get my Car Channel Famous, I want to race you on the track with my E46 M3.
Awesum Run Bro! Great lookin car on tha Track! That in car footage was tha shiznit!
The legendary Evo V is by far your most wonderful car.
By far the best channel on youtube, and by far the best car you have, real monster
Id you don’t mind a 200 tread wear tire, the RE-71R has been dominating time attack. Also the A052 has been getting popular in time attack as well.
I said this on the last Evo 5 track video and I’ll say it on this one, we need more Evo 5 track content like this. These videos are the best imo. 🤷🏻♂️