Lineker calls for VAR appeal system after Wolves' disallowed goal ‘doesn’t make sense‘ | BBC Sport
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- Match of the Day pundits Ian Wright and Dion Dublin analyse the decision to disallow a late Wolves equaliser in their 2-1 Premier League home defeat by West Ham, with Gary Lineker suggesting that VAR is taking over - and that football needs an appeal review system, as there is in tennis and cricket.
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Lineker calls for VAR appeal system after Wolves' disallowed goal ‘doesn’t make sense‘ | BBC Sport - Спорт
I can't stand VAR and want rid, but this was pretty clear cut according to the law.
He's stood in front of the keeper and he's offside. The law is that it should be disallowed, that's not a VAR issue. And if ur gonna say well he wasn't going to save it, that's very dangerous to start assuming who's going to save what.
Well did you see the Man City one the other week exactly the same and it was allowed. The big clubs are protected
@benwatts790 it is offside I agree
He’s offside for like 0.2 seconds, the time it takes to leave kilmans head and cross the line. If you honestly think that affected fabianski in anyway, you’re lying lmao.
It's fine when Liverpool do it to wolves tho?
Exactly. It's like saying that certain fouls in the box don't matter because the attacker wasn't going to score.
VAR already looked at it, what would looking at it again do apart from slowing the game down even more?
I dont know how wolves are so safe feel like every week VAR has screwed them in a different way 😂
Just get rid of it, imagine how long the break will be with an appeal system
00:40 The goal keeper can move at any point Gary? He can't move forward for starters, because he's blocked by an offside player.
Goals have been given in similar situations the offside rule has been rendered confusing. All players are entiled to any part of the pitch be it a foot away or closer the goalkeeper doesn't have an exclusion zone and he wasn't impeded. The ref decided that offside should ruleout the goal. Didn't like it but that's what the ref decided. End of.
@@davehodges1193 Yeah he is "entitled to any part of the pitch", as long as he knows when he's offside, he'll be given offside.
He was impeded because he couldn't see ffs.....
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 even tho he was a foot taller than the attacker and the ball was in the air. Come off it.
@@michaelclutton1030 it was offside. If practically standing on the goalkeepers toes is not interfering with play, please explain a scenario where you can be interfering with play.
Get a fucking grip.
I think it was right to disallow the goal. It can't be good for football if attackers feel entitled to take up offside positions a yard in front of goalkeepers and not be penalised for it. Sympathy for Wolves because the season started with the ridiculous Onana / no penalty incident and they've had a number of unlucky ones since, and also because having a last minute equaliser disallowed is about as gutting as it gets, but I still think the ref / VAR got this one right.
Exactly. Being offside is fine if you don't interfere with play. To block the keepers view is the same thing as making it difficult for the keeper to react to active play
The disallowing of the goal makes perfect sense. He’s right in front of the GK, and he’s in an offside position…this is nowhere near as bad as some of the decisions I’ve seen!
I actually don’t think it should’ve been disallowed, because the GK is never going to save it…but it’s easy to see why they’ve disallowed it!
So decisions only get made if a player can get to it? Attacker rugby tackled to the floor - no pen as he was never going to get to it.
Attacker offside? No because the defender was never going to get back to make a tackle anyway.
Do you see how silly that rule would be.
This is what these MOTD do talk shite, the first pen was dubious, if a player in an offside position inches from the goalie / he's interfering, blocking the goalies view & movement. But it depends on who you suggort too what opinion you'll have.
@@darreno2428he just stated the rule right there, if the player stops or obstructs the vision from a player getting the ball.. he wasn't getting the ball so how could he possibly be obstructing it..
Definitely correct to disallow the goal, and the fuss about this decision is absolutely ludicrous.
An offside player is standing 2 feet directly in front of the keeper in the 6 yard box (that's not interfering with play???) and people think a goal scored under those circumstances is ever going to stand? What are these people on?
The pundits have just picked up on the wolves manager"s confident sense of outrage and then amplified it, not bothering to seriously think about whether he was right or not.
Funny that these are the same people who screamed for a week that Ake's goal against Fulham *should* have been disallowed because an offside Akanji was "interfering", when he was 10 yards in front of the keeper and a yard to his right, but the ball was coming from the keeper's left. Laughable.
I don't see the controversy? Chirewa is clearly offside. You can't stand offside, in front of a keeper. This is professional football, not goal hanging in the park.
Omg I’ve been saying this for years they need to do it the same as cricket and tennis
you mean American football.
Nice, thanks for talking about the 8 incidents that went against west ham over the last few months
Right decision according to the law but this law is sh” t. I felt for wolves for that decision but Emerson had a goal ruled out unfairly in my opinion.
// the player was in the goalkeepers way??? so interfering............. end of????? you cant purposely take up an offside position in the goalkeepers line of sight...............its a definite tactic....its wrong...
Exactly....what is the controversy about? Just more time for tedious talking dickheads.
Attackers stand in front of the keeper at nearly every corner
nothing to do with Var, without it a ref may have disallowed it anyway and with good reason. Just accept an honest decision
The ref allowed the goal. VAR shouldn’t have even got involved as it wasn’t a clear and obvious error.
I think Gary answered his own question, there is always a level of interpretation, the referee interpreted the law, that’s his or her job. In this case was he miles out in his interpretation, no! Clearly some VAR decisions are but one has to put things in perspective. I think maybe the panel should perhaps have a go at refereeing some games and making decisions straight off the bat. 😁
Sounds rubbish to me. If a line is drawn it is one way or the other.
And how many times have West Ham been on the wrong end of VAR decisions in the last two seasons, you lot are a bloody joke!
That still doesn’t make that decision right though does it.
That's got nothing to do with this decision
The inconsistency is horrendous that’s the issue they impose the law when it suits them….
can no one see that the West Ham number 3 plays the striker on side, how has everyone not seen this?
I did. You are spot on
If moyes and the keeper genuinely thought it should be a goal, wouldn't it have been great if they had let wolves score
Moyes said he was definitely stood in front of the keeper and it was 'probably the right decision'. There is no evidence Fab said anything other than hearsay from O'Neil, fgs. Get a grip
Not sure what they’re trying to say there. It was offside as per the laws.. Attacker was in offside position and in the keepers line of sight. How do VAR get blame, or referee for applying the laws… The keeper wasn’t obstructed (physically) but he had an attacker in his line of sight. If VAR don’t interject then surely Moyes & West Ham would be up in arms??
Right...
Im a Liverpool supporter and i really feel bad for you guys and know how you feel. Var have ruined the game now and i applaud you for appealing to scrape VAR and hope more teams agree with you on this and it does get taken away or at least they make MAJOR changes to it (specially the people who operste it).
And for the record if he didn’t intend to instruct the keepers vision then why the f-k was he standing in front of him?
It was a good decision to disallow it
And another shocking VAR decision against Wolves v Bournemouth…..I’ve watched it 3 times and cannot see how or why it was disallowed…..and not one Bournemouth player appealed for a free kick…….absolutely shocking lack of commen sense on both decisions…giving defenders get out of jail cards for bag defending by just looking for reasons why goals shouldn’t stand…….whoever thought it would come to this…
Get rid of VAR it's a joke.
I used to hate how many matches were decided by a wrong decision by the officials, especially in knock out football. I hated the injustice, especially in the Champions League, Euros & WCs.
IMO they need to process decisions much faster, and not go looking for minor infringements.
And the EPL could bring in semi-automatic outside decisions.
I think disallowing goals and spoiling celebrations is the lesser of two evils, thus stopping invalid goals being allowed.
As for offsides, judge the position of each player by their lower back or sth, or give a player as being onside if any scoring part of their body is onside, instead of the other way round.
I understand yout view totally, but I just think the technology during and after games will show how many goal decisions were wrong.
I stopped watching Champions League games some years ago as so many were decided by a ref getting a material decision wrong, or an incorrect onside/offside decision.
@@Dabmonger I see where you're coming from, however, my team was relegated last year, now, in the Championship, it's a quick glance to see if you're onside, power into the 18 yard box, slip the ball under the keeper and then it's off into the corner, shirt off, celebrating like a mad thing - No VAR; No worries.
@@Dabmonger Var or, any technology system, won't work in football. The rules, aren't rules they are advice to referees, and are totally "OPEN TO INTERPRETATION." This means technically everyone who has an opinion on the subject is right!! When will fools like you realise that human error is part of sport? It always has been, and it always will be.
they got the decision right
Are you high?@@kieran5014
I don' think I understand football pundits anymore... The was stonewall offside... Yeah, the keeper can move but then he gives the more of gap to aim at... My team NUFC stood to gain from Wolves taking points from West Ham at this point of the season also.
Fact the player was in front of the keeper , stopping him doing his job … he could have had a better chance of punching the ball…..
Former players are on IFAB as well as referees.
Three ex striker pundits of course they want goals to stand. But the law is correct on this.
Of course they would appeal, you would appeal every last minute equaliser because you have nothing to lose
Do You
That crap , bla bla bla
Some of the VAR and Referee decisions are nothing short of shameful! Allowing that for a team in the top 4 but not allowing it for Wolves! This type of point robbery is true for other clubs in the PL too and every club should be concerned by this. To the fans it makes the PL points system look like they are being manipulated in order to keep lower teams down by the sounds of things! How many points should Wolves be on now? More than they currently have! Gary O'Neil has every right to shout his mouth off about this!
Just when you thought Lineker couldn't get any dumber, he comes out with this.
Yeah but the majority of footballers aren’t the brightest bulbs in the pack and don’t improve with age generally.
In 2015/16 it took most of the Premier League clubs and all the pundits a whole season to realise that you can't defend with a high line against Jamie Vardy. That's how bright football people are.
For years and years the BBC, Sky and others have beaten refs from pillar to post saying "they need help". Then as soon as help arrives, its all the fault of the officials applying the rules in the VAR box. The truth is, controversy over decisions drives clicks, views and likes and that's the big reason why the media are constantly on and on about it. The refs should go on strike and invite ex-pros to go and take control lets see Lineker keeping up with play or getting 100% of decisions right under pressure.
So after all that fuss to get it introduced, because linesmen and referee's weren't good enough, they finally realise we are no further forward. Go figure. Always a bad idea as it still comes down to ONE PERSONS interpretation, with slow-mo or not.
VAR has totally spoilt football for me. Makes you wander how it became the MOST POPULAR GAME IN THE WORLD for over 100yrs, without any technological help ? 🤔
What are you on about Lineker???
You want an appeal one per team? How much more time is that going to add on to the current debacle??
You absolute twonk….
No Gary, the root cause here is that referees take each incident subjectively. They’re the issue. VAR is there to help the refs but they are still getting decisions wrong. Poor training and understanding of football - time to get players in the VAR rooms.
His decision is 100% correct. Gary even reads out the law and says "he is in front of the keeper here but" but what Gary? You've just literally explained why it is offside.
Would you want Ian Wright in VAR room, the same Ian Wright who said the decision was "100% correct to give it offside" when it went in favour of Arsenal and in that instance there was about 10 yards between keeper and ball. Couldn't the keeper have just stepped to one side? Also with every tight offside decision couldn't the defender have just stepped back to so the attacker was on side?
@@darreno2428 it won’t work like that though. The referees will be able to speak up and challenge decisions and so can the ex player. They both need to be in agreement and the ex player can voice their reason why (for example) Wolves goal should be allowed to stand yesterday.
@@Mac_Kymera and make decisions take longer? ridiculous
@@sonjataylor9596 so you'd rather get the decision wrong rather than take an extra 20 seconds to discuss a final decision? LOL. And you call it ridiculous pfft 😂
Easy to solve - get rid of offside.
What an idiot then people would goal hang
The decision is 100% correct in Law. when your only argument is the referee doesn't know football and you know it's correct in Law. Don't cook the Referee for what is a 100% correct decision. How about protecting that Referee for doing his job correctly in LAW ???? if the offside law is wrong in your eyes lobby IFAB
Just scrap VAR altogether
I used to hate how many matches were decided by a wrong decision by the officials, especially in knock out football. I hated the injustice, especially in the Champions League, Euros & WCs.
IMO they need to process decisions much faster, and not go looking for minor infringements.
And the EPL could bring in semi-automatic outside decisions.
I think disallowing goals and spoiling celebrations is the lesser of two evils, thus stopping invalid goals being allowed.
As for offsides, judge the position of each player by their lower back or sth, or give a player as being onside if any scoring part of their body is onside, instead of the other way round.
I understand the opposite view, but I just think the technology during and after games will show how many goal decisions were wrong.
I stopped watching Champions League games some years ago as so many were decided by a ref getting a material decision wrong, or an incorrect onside/offside decision.
Shut up Lineker!
How can 3 top ex players sit there and argue that the goal should stand ???? Oh I see now 3 strikers.🤔
In every country it is just as bad as in England.
I live in The Netherlands.
West Ham had two poor var decisions the week before and nothing was discussed on motd at all
5 years later, The Premier League / Officials are still getting VAR wrong.
Clearly not good for football.
Cant be offside on a corner??????
Three of the best black footballers iv seen Mr Wright Mr Dublin and of course Mr Potato Ears himself … get rid of VAR
Can we appeal the appeal of the appeal
VAR is the appeal system. It took Sky sports and Andy Grey 15 to 20 yrars to get this stupid system into football. Now everyone can see it in all of it's stupidity!
Just get rid of VAR.
Why did you not feel gutted for West Ham injustices this season. BBC jokers
VAR should take a note from NBA. Before every season refs go to talk to each club & fans and explain how they are going to ref the games. Even in some cases prepare videos in which they explain with real examples what has changed. Feeling sorry ( NOT ) for pundits that they don't know the rules, and explain everything trough 90's prism, when grass was green and everything was better ( ? ) .
Lineker should be feeling ashamed for creating this fake drama and putting more pressure on REFs. This was the time when they definetely didn't make a mistake.
3 BAMEs here lol
Has he learned now to stick to football?
You lot called for VAR now you want to have an appeal system - might as well as stop for oranges and a cuppa every time. Football isn't worth watching anymore - 'pundits' questioning every call made by the referee + assistants, endless replays, just get on with the game - grow up and accept sometimes it's to your benefit, other time it's to the oppositions.
If you can't celebrate a goal at the moment it happens,the whole joy of football disappears....
we don't need a VAR appeal system - we need to just get rid of VAR - it's ruining the game BIG TIME !!! Junk it in file 13 where it belongs !! Worst 'change' ever to happen in football
Never a penalty against Westham
VAR needs to be abolished
Darts > football since VAR. Ruined the working man’s game 100%
Westham get screwed every week nothing gets mentioned
Wolves robbed again, fck VAR !