HIFIMAN ANANDA - The Sundara all Grown Up.
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2019
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Essential school supplies: Ananda
oh yeah, the famous Ananda-47,
anything less than a sundara is unacceptable for school ;)
Wouldn’t an open back be really bad for school
@@maxnethd8096 nah because all of your classmates get to listen to your amazing taste of music
Sundara is better than this headphone. I have version 3 ananda and sundara is better. Don't trust reviewers who get free products.
I appreciate all your efforts in doing these reviews.
I'm glad UA-cam recommended You to my main feed
Can we do a series on what music/sound to listen to when testing headphones!!! I love beats/instrumentals. Also love to see what people preferred genres are.
I'm testing out the Ananda's now - and here's my short-term opinion..
SOUND:
From a sound perspective, these are about as perfect (for my tastes) as I've heard to date. The lows are rumbly and tight (particularly in the sub-bass)
The mids are clear and detailed - naturally forward without being forceful
The highs are crispy clear, literally walking the line without crossing it (in terms of sibilance)
Compared to Audeze lcd-2c's - these are far more satisfying. I really gave the lcd2c's a fair chance but my impression was very unpleasant. I feel the mids ruin the sound. They're bizarrely nasal and muffled. I feel that the mids go as far as to ruin the highs - which are borderline flat but are overpowered by the mids.
The Ananda's address and far outperform the lcd2c's on all of the above - I immediately felt immersed and satisfied the moment I took the lcd2c's off and put the Ananda's on.
COMFORT:
You NEED to give these a good 48 hour break-in.
When I first put the Ananda's on, the pressure at the base of the skull (on the sternomastoid muscle) and subsequent nerves was very unpleasant. They almost felt like they were cutting off circulation
However - a day later, I have gotten more used to it and they are becoming more comfortable and tolerable
CONCLUSION:
I'm going to play around with these for a week longer and see how I feel then - for now that pressure point is tolerable but not ideal.
However, the overall sound performance, imaging, detail, frequencies are a HUGE yes - these are the best sounding headphones I've put on my head period.
Would you be able to say how detail is compared to the senheiser hd598? I got a zmf Aeolus and was immediately disappointed because of the closed in and lack of clarity in treble and midrange(compared to 598) just as you were with the Audeze.
I bought the Ananda and the LCD2C at the same time too! And I had the exact same reaction. Easy choice, no contest: the Ananda sounds like life, while the LCD2C just sound muffled and strange. So many people who's opinions I respect love them (like Josh) and I just don't get it. It's one of the most baffling peculiarities I've run across in this hobby.
The Ananda do hit me in a kinda weird spot to: right behind the back of my jaw. They're just so huge! But so is the sound. The fit isn't actually uncomfortable at all, just a little unusual.
Interesting when I wear them I have NO comfort issues at all out of the box and they are amazing in every way :)
@@Jordonater oh the detail is incredible. I have a DT 1990 which are detail whores for the price and these are just the next level of detail without any piercing treble or anything bad.
@@soraflame66 Well ill admit I bought the Ananda's since the comment i wrote and they were just too fatiguing to me. I liked the sound until after an hour or so then it just hurt my ears but i can see why many like them so much. I returned for a refund and the search still continues. Currently using HD58X and the treble is at the level where if it was any higher then it would fatigue however it doesn't thankfully but i just want something "better".
I'm happy with mine! I liked Arya a bit more, but not $600 more.
Just got the anandas open box for $540 in flawless condition. I knew the Arya were better, but not over $1000 better!
@@Apocryphone I was considering the Arya, but then I realized I'd need to invest in a better DAC and AMP, and I'd be spending close to $2k total. Went with the Ananda instead and love them! They're the best sounding headphones I've heard, especially after EQing them to taste.
Having owned my Anandas for almost a week now, I can say with full confidence that I am incredibly happy with my purchase. They are second hand, but the previous owner really didn't seem to have used them at all because they look-and even smell-brand new, still. Obviously no idea about longevity, but on first impressions, I can't believe I ended up loving them as much as I did.
Great video. For a person like me that live far from shops and hasn't the possibility of try many things your channel is a great source for insights and opinions. Thank you
Demo'd the Ananda along with a whole bunch of other headphones, and this is what I liked the most for a reasonable price. I can say I'm very happy with my purchase, especially since most of what I listen to and work with is orchestral music. I would definitely suggest going to a shop to buy it though, so you can check the unit you're buying for QC issues. Things too look out for that I've seen are: misaligned drivers, slightly indented grilles, and scratches on the driver.
Spot on
Do you compare it to the lcd2 fazor or edition xx ???
So im guessing its highly detailed if you use for orchestral music? I wouldn't want something that sounds veiled in air and instrument detail even on pop and electronic music.
Great reviews !! Please compare
the HD800s to the focal clear if you get one
Had the Ananda for about one year. I mainly listen to various forms of metal and some rock music. Before these I used the HD-650 for like 6 years. Demoed the Ananda alongside Focal Clear and Meze Empyrean. Strictly looking at the sound I liked the Empy the best, but taking price into account the Ananda was the clear winner. In my mind it's the perfect sound within reasonable budget for the kind of music I like the most. Listening to death/black metal at high volume is really immersive, grandiose and gives a sense of space and "live feeling" without being fatiguing. And it's so comfortable, you forget you have headphones on.
man you take the words from my mouth LUL, almost the same experience as u.
Thanks for your comment. From the review I got the impression that Ananda was not the headphone for death metal, but it seems like that is the case.
Did you compare the ananda to the lcd 2 fazor
Does it really eorth the upgrade from 6xx to ananda
@@davidmason8212 When you hear the ananda or any of the egg-shaped hifiman planars it will be hard to go back to the 6xx lets just put it like that. The spaciousness and separation is unreal.
Like your clean and crisp reviews, they are very comprehensive and neutral once. Keep doing good work. Love from India.
Bought it a little over 1 year ago for about $700. As my first stab in the hifi audio world, I really enjoy it. The fact that I didnt have to drive it with an amp was a plus. Being my first higher end headphone, I dont have anything to compare it to, but I can say you nailed the string music comment. To me, these headphones are very pleasant and Im happy with my purchase.
I also have it. The Sundara is better.
Loved talking with you, though I felt most like I did the listening this time around.
No reviewer really loves these, but I do, very happy with them!
Spot on review. That’s exactly how they sound to me, except that there is a definite sibilant peak and/or resonance around 8K that is measurable and annoying.
Josh I loved your rant about value and no music vs some music from a different video! You mention in this video that I could use either of these with a phone only. Would you do a video on several portable phone headphone setups? Like digital dac vs analog USB c dongle, the Dragonfly USB dac, perhaps a small dac that requires power to drive XX headphone? Thanks!
Top bang per buck headphone. Makes me smile every day, music sounds brand new.
Did you compare it with 400i or lcd2 fazor ?
Should I buy a Sundara in a couple months or skip it and buy an Ananda in 6-12 months?
@@iPlayOnSpica
I would say skip it and buy the ananda .
For me i am waiting for the ananda to be under 600 usd to buy it.
@Otie Jason
Yea if it become 599 or 499 i am going to get it but for 699 nah
@@davidmason8212 599 might be possible but 499 is close to impossible in near future. Ananda price has dropped alot from 1000 to 699, whereas sundara from 500 to 350.. Hifiman have reduced the price of both headphone by same percent..
I do think sundara price will drop by 50 to 100 but not in near future.. Or maybe Hifiman will bring new headphone in market in later future and discontinues sundara, rather than furthre reduced the price of sundara and maybe ananda aswell.
if ananda was turkish word it means "your mother too" 😂
Ananda is a Sanskrit word meaning Bliss or joy
@Omer, ananda. 😂
Hey, I got a question: I have an ancient Stax SR-5 (with the necessary SRD-6/SB adapter) and Anandas. The SRD-6/SB needs to be connected to the speaker outputs of a "real" amp which I didn't have because I don't have speakers, just headphones.
So I bought an Audiolab M-ONE (2x40 W) which is an integrated amp (DAC + AMP) with a headphone output as well (of course). The Anandas sound great but I don't have a reference, neither did I ever listen to good headphones hooked up to a dedicated DAC/AMP.
TL;DR: Do I "need" a seperate, dedicated DAC/AMP (and not use the M-ONE for the Anandas)? Advice much appreciated!
This headphone sound very good tonal wise. The resolution is something to be desire not as clean as some higher end stuff. The technical is not great but I dont care cuz it the sound feels very emotional and captivating
Great review as always bud.
Clean intro! been really liking these videos
wow wouldnt expect to see you here!
@@siggie7581 xD
Looking for a open back headphone to pair with the Sony ZX507. Would you recommend this headphone over the HD660 S? I would like sometime with a Good to Really Good soundstage. BTW they are on sale for 700 US
Hey Josh, great review. Any thoughts on the ananda for gaming? I currently own the t1 gen 2 but have been thinking about a planar. I'm probably 60/40 gaming/music. Thanks!
Excellent review as always ! I've still got a question though : what about vocals on the Ananda ? I mean i come from a 6XX & i fckin love them sooo much for their kinda intimate vocals, would love to know how the Ananda deal with lot of vocals/voices songs, can he get intimate like the 6XX can ? I mean i don't think lot of headphones can actually reproduce the same awesome intimacy on vocals that the 6XX provide, but just wanted to know if the Ananda can maybe come close & give you that sweet intimacy "realistic" vocals like the 6XX ? Hope it make sense i'm french my english could probably be better lol
While I typically listen to instrumental music, I can attest that vocals are outstanding with the headphone. It's presentation for vocals are perfectly placed - not too forward or recessed. Think front-row-center. Combined with the Ananda's separation, the music perfectly frames the vocalist in a way that enhances the overall presentation. HTH. BTW, make sure you give it ample time for break-in (typically 100hrs+)!
With my recently rekindled love of audio equipment, I've been happy to stumble upon your channel. You've come a long way in your vids and have quickly become my favorite reviewer. You've helped me decide to buy a Sundara in previous videos and now, you've piqued my interest enough to have purchased an Ananda through you link. The Ananda is now $699 and it's close enough to see if I'm missing much. Also, I foolishly never tried the stock cable with the Sundara and jumped straight to using a balanced cable purchased for it. Long story short, cables matter, probably to a larger degree for headphones versus speaker cables. All this time I was really puzzled about statements of the Sundara having "punch" until I tried the stock cable. Doh! Finally, would it be possible to mention what equipment you use in the description for future reviews? Much thanks for all you do!
Hey Josh, I'm wondering if you will continue to do album reviews as they are a great complement to your other videos?
Very nice review good job
When you are going to review the brainwavez Alara and beyerdynamic T1 ?
Same here T1!!! =)
Im glad it has non-fatiguing treble. Hyper detailed treble to sound "hi-fi" is a plague.
Great review!
Quick question, I paired my Ananda with an Ifi Hip dac/amp. Would this be sufficient or am I missing out?
Thanks a lot for a very good and educational video. How does the Ananda compare to the Grado 325SRe? I use a Lehmann Audio Linear amp and listen mainly to classical and jazz. Best regards, Ignacio
Hi Josh, thanks again for your great review, I have gotten my self an Ananda recently and was wondering what is the best dac/amp combo suitable for ananda? I listen to alot of genre like techno, hiphop, classical, indie, jazz , so may need a good balance between clarity, soundstage and also to improve to slightly less slam from the physical limitation of the Ananda.
Ifi zen dac and ifi zen can
Great review . Would go well with a Chord Mojo connected to a THX AAA 789 Amp ? Thank You
Ich habe den 1000 Daumen hoch gegeben 😃
These headphones are incredible
I know this is an older review but would recommend the lcd x over this ? Those are the 2 headphones I’d recommend
Hey man can you review the fidelio x2? I could send you mine for review.
I know they are different, but based on value, these or the focal elex?
I would pick the planar everyday over dynamic
Sold my Sundaras after receiving my Anandas. Best sounding headphone I've ever heard. Worth it over the Sundara, imo. Especially at $699. There's just a magic to them. The Sundara is a lot more comfortable tho.
Sundara comfortable with that small round earpads ? no...
@@Anomalyn1 yes! Extremely comfortable. The pads are like soft, cold pillows.
I guess everybody is diffrent. I couldn't use them more than 2 hours, my ears were hurting like crazy
@@Anomalyn1 I guess so :) I loved the comfort. Anandas are comfy too but the pads are much stiffer and dig into your jaw after a while. But I personally can wear either for long periods of time.
Just picked these babies up used from a college kid for $400. I haven't heard them yet, I'm waiting until Christmas (it's mid November now). My wife and son tried them out for me to make sure they worked, and they do. My son doesn't usually get impressed by headphones I let him try (he's 9 years old) but he put on Space Oddity and his 👀 were wide and he said these sounded better than anything he's heard before. So that tells me something! My wife raised an eyebrow said they sounded good too. They both think my interest in headphones is crazy and they were impressed, so I can't wait until Christmas (if I can hold out for that long)!
Beautiful review as always, I hope you can review the Thieaudio Phantom, they are having a lot of hype from various reviewers, I'd be curious to hear your opinion on these Joshua, you and Metal are my reference points in the audio field. :)
Oh boy this guys reviewed many many headphones but do they really have a good ear..... I really doubt that. Try before buy always. Sometimes they have a really far from real opinion in terms of real musicality not "audiophile musicality"
Would your recommendation change now that this headphone seems to be 699 new on amazon?
i would also like to know this
@@gusgamble me2
I don't know, but i certainly recommend you to buy brand new anandas from me for less than 699
Paid 699.99 for mine very happy with my purchase, have had no problems with Hifiman build. I would buy these again. Thanks Vernon
Just bought them... quick question, can I just plug them into my home reciever or i need one of those amps go be able to listen to music ?
You can plug them into your receiver. But you probably know this by now.
This is for my own taste and my trusty ears. I have the Sundara and recently purchased the Ananda. I think for the price, the ananda is phenomenal. Do i think is it better than Sundara although its double the price....Hell to the yes!. Ananda sound is very wide, soundstage is right in the middle, trebles are perfect and non fatigue. I can listen to music all day with comfort. Surprisingly lightweight, built quality can be better for the price. My favorite music with Ananda is playing Billy Ocean Caribbean Queen and Alan Walker Alone. The headphone plays well with pretty much every genre types of music. The instrument separation is exquisite, reaching further than my HD660s. I have mated the Ananda with Topping A30 pro and D30 Pro Stack and it kicks @$$. Bass is good, but some songs needed some more bass, but with equalizer APO, its touch perfect. The Ananda is so easy to drive, whether you connect to your phone, laptop, or Amplifier, it will handle it well. Let the fat lady sing again!
Does it lose much without amplification? I was considering buying a Sundara + Topping A50s or L30 + E30 which totals around the Ananda's price. Given how efficient the Ananda is, I was wondering what's better, the Sundara with proper AMP + DAC or the Ananda with the Apple dongle.
Is the Arya worth it over these? I liked these when I heard them, but preferred the Focal Elegia (which I bought). But now I'm not so satisfied with the Elegia. Wondering if the Arya is a worthy step--up from the Ananda?
Why you don't think about getting the lcd2 fazor
You say you'd recommend other headphones over the Ananda for those looking to purchase a single headphone, but you never actually provide those recommendations in this video. I'm assuming you mean at a similar price range. What would those be? It'd be great if you could provide that info when mentioning it. Great content regardless.
Hi Joshua,
I would like your opinion. I recently purchased the DT 1990 Pro. I like the sound and detail but I'm considering the Ananda. I do own the Sundara and wonder if the Ananda would sound better enough to justify the purchase. I'm within the Amazon 30 day return policy of the DT 1990. (I've only a few days left.) Could you please advice?
Thank you,
Ruben
What was wrong with the sundara and you bought the DT1990?
Josh. I own Sundara, HD600 and 6XX. Would you recommend the Ananda or LCD-2c to compliment what I own? I am looking for more soundstage compared to what I own.
I know i am neither josh or answering in time, but the LCD 2c would not be complementary since it is a rather dark headphone. Imo the Ananda should take the Sundaras place in your situation
Kinda off topic, but seeing the album in the thumbnail, would you suggest the sennheiser pxc 550-ii's for pink floyd? I'm REALLY headphone inexperienced but mainly listen to pink floyd
I suggesting a planar magnetic openback headphone if you love psychedelics rock. This type of headphone will make you flying without taking any substance. Their openness, instrument separation, detail, staging, and clarity is excellent for this genre. Lately I listen to The Dark Side of the Moon using a Hifiman Deva.. Heart beat from "Speak to Me" is truly clear and the bass was not bloated and distort like other average wireless headphone. Screaming from "Breathe (In the Air)" and the laughing man from ''On the Run" is very haunting.. sounds creepy even. Ringing cash register and a jingle of coins from "Money", ringing bell and clock from "Time" is simply as spectacular as an ASMR type sound could be.
Had Ananda for about 3 months. Best thin is that they sound really really great from any of my sources from iPad to NuPrime Dac-10H and with almost every genre I throw at em.. I prefer them over LCD-3s, my last open planar. If I must find something to complain about its that they don't handle cranked up volume that well.
What happen to the ananda sound when you crank up the volume ?
Uhhhh what are you using for an amp
Why did you change them?
I went from my first hifiman 400i and will receive my Anada tomorrow. I have smsl su9 and sh9, will I be surprised? These are my first 2 planars
can I drive this with an usb powered amp or does it gonna sound like crap
Hey great video.
One question. I am currently using Ananda. I like the great instrument seperation, black background, big sound, fast bass response but i feel its a bit too shouty/bright as you mentioned (a bit too much in upper mid), bass is a bit lacking in quantity. What do you recommend me to upgrade to? Audeze Lcd? I am concerned with Hifiman QC also
I generally prefer planar sound to dynamic headphones: better speed, better seperation, more life-like, deeper bass.
Thank you
What amp you've been use? If u want to upgrade, maybe i'm reccomending you to go audeze lcd X
@@BapakGwPLN im using modi multibit + Asgard 3 amp
Where can you buy single tracks of digital hifi music at to allow this headphone to shine?
Hi Josh ☺️
So, after all, is it the poor man's HE 1000 as I've read some guys say on the forums? I remember you have reviewed the HE 1000 and liked it. Are they really close as claimed?!
That would be the Arya with the HE1K drivers, not the Ananda.
@@IsraelCruzJr How much do you think the ananda sounds close to arya ??
Is that right that ananda harmonic distortion level increases when you play it with very high volume?
I mean can the ananda play as loud as arya without sound compression or high distortion?
How do pull the pads off of the headphone? It seems to be glued on it
Anyone who have this and akg712? I have the 712 for a few years and is still very happy with it, but itchy to shop for something. Am thinking of trying the dt1990 or this, any thought?
I tried the 1990 and 712 and i prefer the 712
I have the DT1990 and the AKG 712, didn't like the AKG, but they were less than half of the Beyer. I actually like the better, but to me the best sounding Headphone that I have heard is the HD600. Thinking about getting the Ananda.
What do you recommend to drive these? Will ifi zen dac be enough or do I need to go for something like the Schiit Asgard 3? Any other recommendations?
By man, don't know if you looked this up since then but the Ananda's are very efficient, way more efficient than the less expensive Sundaras and 400/4XX Hifimans. They're only an impedance of 25 ohms and a sensitivity of 103db so in terms of power, they do not require much at all, pretty much any amp or dad/amp will do. I don't own them but I do own the 400i and their low sensitivity of 94db had me buy a desktop amp because my portable amp I was using for them didn't get loud enough for certain songs and genres. All the reviews I've read about the Anandas mention they don't need a dad or amp because they can be easily powered by your phone or computer, but a dad/amp never hurts.
@@alejandroberrios4756 The Ananda's scale with gear. They are efficient, but obv come alive with way more power. Sound deeper and larger scale even at low volumes with an amp w/headroom.
Hopefully these go on sale this holiday season.
Josh I wasn't sure where I could ask so I'm going to ask here. Now that the Ananda is selling for 800 does that change your review? I am looking between this and the LCD 2C and I am having trouble deciding.
I had them they broke 2 times so don't . First time they replaced it other time they asked for 330$
Can you put the custom cable for the Ananda plz? thanks
Would these be a good upgrade from the Dt 1990? Im either looking for an upgrade or a complimentary headphone for them.
These are my 2 main headphones at home and they do compliment each other very well. I use the DT1990 for general usage I would say like more common things (surfing the web, music production, working, playing games, etc..). Ananda is where I want to relax, listen to music, watch movies and music videos. They are so light that you kinda forget them and they don't touch your ears at all. Not like the DT1990 where they do clamp very much that after a while they hurt.
in my opinion, the only thing they have over the DT1990 Pro is the weight + comfort. thats it, the sound on the DT is better imo.
@@ashertsukuyomi8427 Haven't heard the Anandas yet but they are to big and might not fit me very well. I did find some very nice Dekoni pads wich Not only improve comfort but also the fr very much.
Kasper Suomalainen I tend to agree. DT1990 are good headphones don’t get me wrong but the Ananda is clearly better in every way. Big downside of the 1990 is they can’t be run in balanced.
@a b what do you think about the soundstage of the both? i bought the 1990 but seems to have just the same soundstage as my he4xx
Please Please answer me Can I boost the bass of this headphone without hurt anything else like soundstage?
Yes
I'm really close to grabbing a pair of these and probably then selling my Sundaras and maybe HD 6xx. Without a dedicated seller's account not sure how worth it will be to sell both though. Could try to sell locally but that's more difficult.
What planars would you recommend for a flat response?
I guess I am late to the party, but at 599 these are definitely worth it. I would not have paid 999, or even 850. I had the Sundara's as a reference pair for about 6 months, then sold and settled on these, the sandpaper comparison is spot on.. I listen to music 6-8 hours a day, so I need something that is non-fatiguing and smooth in the treble, and I prefer an open and large sound. These deliver They are far less amp-dependent, something that should be considered when choosing here, a Fiio e10 will run these fine, in fact, it is a great pairing because it seems to add a bit more weight in the upper midrange than say a neutral amp like a JDS labs element.
Also, missing from the review is that these things are excellent for ClasssicJazz and reggae albums, especially live sessions. . They image old recordings like nobody's business. Anything recorded pre-1980 will sound great on these. Anything mastered for cheap gear will get exposed, and quickly removed from your like list. I will say they are a tad more forgiving than other magnetic planners, and at this price, they are amazing for the things mentioned above. I would describe them as less a speaker-like experience and more a, Hey, I am in the studio listening to a live session experience. Footprints by Wayne Shorter is a great exmaple. The double Bass is well articulated and extends all the way down to a puff of air underneath. They can separate the Sax and trumpet extremely well, even though the artists are standing a few feet apart. You can distinctly make feel the sax player in the duet being slightly behind and to the left of the trumpet player. On a 40+-year-old live session, it is an impressive experience at this price point.For comparison, These are jazz masters in the same way the HD 598's are, just with more detail, extension, and energy, and clarity and size of the images are larger, just without the classic Sennheiser timbre in the mids. if I could combine that with the Ananda, it would be the perfect headphone for me. I keep both around as my mainstays for live recordings.
Perfect description , I use mine with the IFI zen dac and amp package designed for Hifiman headphones, adds a touch more bass without screwing up the mids, certainly don’t want to mess up the exceptional vocal capabilities of these headphones. I paid $699 nothing else out there to match them at that price
I love them, beats my LCD 2C clearly, The only 1000€ headphone that with i can easily hear difference between MP3 320 Kbs and FLAC. very clinical sound as i like and quite wide soundstage.
I just bought the LCD 2C and I'm a bit disappointed in them, especially coming off from the Verum One's.
Other than treble, what are some benefits with the Anada's over the LCD2C's?
@@SugarFreeTargets alot better instrument separation and resolveness. Soundstage isnt bigger but it got more air. Like Valour said.
@@SugarFreeTargets also ananda responds to EQ very well. Pushing bass from 80hz +3-5db really kicks more punch on it.
@@Thevikingcam - Might have to return the LCD2C's if that's the case but I'm afraid of Hifiman's quality. I plan on keeping these headphones for years but I don't think these Ananda's will last.
Make the big step and buy meze empyrian
Just bought my pair. I was really debating saving up and getting the arya but I found an open box for 500$ so i knew that at that price it would just blow everything else out the water and with the money i saved i got myself a nice monolith dac/amp to pair with it since i don't think the ananda would go well with a tube amp.
Hello, how are they?
Can i drive these with micca origen g2?
hey Josh, thanks for the detailed review! I didn't take your advice and bought the Ananda as my first expensive headphone and I don't think I will be needing anything else soon. Unfortunately I can compare it only to DT990 pro, so I didn't expect to be such a big jump in sound quality. I'm really amazed by how balanced the sound is..I though the bayer has realistic stage, good separation and detail but now they sound compressed, with piercing highs which I thought were detail and an unrealistic stage. I love the smooth presentation of the Ananda, the very detailed highs which are never offensive, forward mids and the imersive stage which is wide enough but very tall. Bass is fast but little bit light, so I like +3db low shelf under 70hz. Impact is also a little bit light with low-medium volumes, but gets much better with higher volume. Hanz Zimmer soundtracks sound amazing on Ananda...so this might be end game for me. But I'm just curious, what would have been your recomandation for the only expensive headphone in this price range? thanks!
@marius socaci probably lcd x. I have it down as a next- purchase, if I was in the market for another headphone.
@@fv4882 did you ever tried to compare lcd2 fazor with ananda ?
Which one do you prefer ?
Love mine! My other favorites are the Clear and the HD600, and the Ananda holds a solid place right there with these. Sometimes a tad too bright for me, but not enough to ruin it for me at all.
would you be able tell me if the Ananda's lack in midrange or detail in comparison to hd600?
@@Jordonater I'm a huge 600 fan, and though they are pretty different I don't find the Ananda lacking anywhere. It's overall flatter, but no less fun and satisfying imo. The 600 has slightly pushed mids (amazing for vocals); the Ananda mids are essentially flat to my ear, but not recessed (still very nice for vocals). 600 is a bit bass light & rolled off lows; Ananda is nearly flat bass, with nice weight & body. 600 has great treble, though ever so slightly warm (slightly below neutral?), with great detail level and cleanliness; Ananda is noticeably brighter, with maybe more highs than neutral? Not sure. But it's definitely not bright in a sibilant way. This brightness mostly results in extra details, really. Like, more noticeable "S" and "T" sounds, more zing in cymbals, more chime with acoustic steels strings, and even wet mouth sounds with vocals during quiet parts (I know, kinda gross, but whatever). Forum folks say the Ananda's extra brightness is in the 8kHz-ish range, so pretty up there. I don't find it distracting but I admit that I do EQ the Ananda's high end down sometimes with certain recordings, even after burn-in, which I'm pretty sure reduced this brightness a bit (worth mentioning that out of the box this extra brightness was enough that I did find it a bit distracting at times).
@@bbeeezzy Oh thanks for detailed response. I still might go with a Sennheiser because of the QC issues with HI FI Man.
@@Jordonater I think that's a good call. In fact I think everyone who is serious about headphones needs to own the 600 at some point. Like I said, I'm a huge fan. They were my first set of decent headphones, and despite the fact that I now own a number of higher end sets (that cost as much as 5x as the 600), I still reach for them as often as any of my others. And I know I'm not alone. You just have to be ok with that rolled off low end. But proper amplification does a lot to improve their bass response. Which reminds me: in case you don't already know, the 600 really do need some real power, i.e. a proper headphone amplifier. If you plug them directly into a phone or other mobile device it's likely you'll be somewhat disappointed (come on over to the forums at Head-Fi.org if you want to learn more about it). Good luck, and have fun!
@@bbeeezzy Its fine I have a JDS Labs EL Amp 2 which has plenty of power. I think I might bargain with build of hi fi man and get the Ananda's anyway I believe there sound is what im after.
how does this compare to the Amiron Wireless?
Can anyone quantify the % difference in soundstage between the Anandas ans Elex? I am torn between Anandas and Elex for my upgrade. All reviews say the Focal is better sounding and more comfortable for most people but I am still leaning towards the Anandas for soundstage (which is a top priority for me). Although I do like the look, and added durability at a lower price point for the Elex. I don’t own any planars and feel like they would be my preferred sound. Help lol!
I have both the Elex and the Ananda. I would say Ananda has 25-50% more soundstage. The Elex soundstage is like a swirling ball around your head, while the Ananda soundstage is a tall room. I think the Ananda is more comfortable, and you can drive it off your phone no problem. However, the Elex has a slam to it that I can't deny...
@@hiltonhosannah769 thank you for your advice. This probably makes my decision harder because I will enjoy both. Though, I will probably get the Ananda first and then get some focals down the road for a complementary sound
Went in to buy Sundaras and was very happy with them in the shop. Just before I left, I asked to try a higher-end just to compare. The guy in the store warned me against it - and he was right! Walked out with the Ananda with the Atom stack. Very happy with them. Once burnt in they became effortless. Listening to acoustic, jazz, classical and a bit of Prog Rock - and happy with them across the spectrum. I don't feel as though I am missing anything in the treble, but they really do shine in the mid-range and bass. Bass is super crisp and clear - great definition.
Thanks. For someone with Senn HD800S, Audeze LCD-3 and Focal Elear, what will be a better pair of new headphones - Hifi Ananda or Focal Clear? Also, how far they are from the Hifiman HE1000 v2. Many thanks!
Same question, this or clear?
Neither. The Ananda is a sidegrade at best and you can put Clear pads on your Elear and get 95% of the Clear for a fraction of the cost.
@@irondad007 have you tried it yourself - putting the Clear earpads on the Elear and getting 95% of the Clear performance?
Also, what's the best place to get the Clear earpads?
Thanks for your help!
Petrol Head you’ll have to go through Focal or an authorized dealer to get the Clear pads. The only differences between the Elear and Clear are the earpads and voice coil. I haven’t tried it myself, because I don’t like the Focal sound, but there are numerous discussions about it.
@@irondad007 sidegrade from what ? Sundara i don't think so
Which sound is bigger/ more vast. LCD 2-C or the Ananda?
I am thinking in getting either of them but as I hear most people say ananda is wider.
But the problem is they say you can't play ananda very loud due to high thd
Finally
Is the Elex an alternative?
At the lower $600 price tag, does the Ananda get a stronger buy recommendation?
Apparently, they have given the 2021 version of this HiFiman Ananda a new driver? That may be thinner and lower mass? Or at least there is an update(s).
Probably going to jump on these, and slowly upgrade to the Arya's
This is a fantastic headphone, and after the burn in, the "cold" sound is totally gone.
How big of a step up is the Arya is terms of overall sound quality?
Its not really a step up rather a slight improvement in the sub bass however in the treble area the Ananda has a smaller peak meaning its easier to listen to and the Arya may have a slight edge in distortion just because the driver is a bit more technical however the difference probably isn't audible. Both of them have build issues which is why im contemplating getting one of them or getting the Sennheiser 660s instead.
I just can't understand and decide between Sundara and Ananda, There cost 350€ vs 650€. I've got Sundara, but had to ask the refund because of lower volume of the left driver and anyway would like to have it again. But right now there is Ananda that's really curious. Don't know if I would like more bass of Ananda instead of the better details of Sundara. Can smbd help me?
Just keep the Sundaras and enjoy them
I have the sundaras. Should I upgrade?
How is it today on a lower price?
Yeah I am very satisfied with my Ananda, the only weakness I see for their price range is dynamics.
Also I disagree with you about the upper vocal "shoutyness"(with ifi micro bl and thx 788). Otherwise great review.
The ifi Micro have weak dynamic range.
@@ahmedsafa91 It's not, it is as dynamic if not more dynamic than the thx788, especially when I a/b test this with the Focal Elex < VERY dynamic headphones. Not as clear, detailed and linear tho.
Do you find the sound of he 1000se close to the ananda ?
5:20 I have that mousepad! Also great review.
you can allways glue some nice padding to the headband to make hp "smaller".
Listening to qobuz or apple music hi-res from my Samsung Note 20 through ifi dac2 these headphones sound phenomenal.
Wait, around 10:00 you say that the soundstage on the HD-800 is a "a little bit better"? Since the HD-800 soundstage is unmatched, phenomenal, this means that the Ananda has amazing, second only to the HD-800s soundstage. Is this correct?
i dont think he means a little as in actually a little, just a way of speaking
I have hd800 too and ananda is close. Not as wide but it has air in the sound and instrument separation is as good or even better on ananda.
I also Agree the soundstage is better on the Hd800 by really far and very few headphones comes close like the Abyss Fi or the 009. People that says that any hifiman is close to the Hd800 soundstage I really recommend read less forums and to pick a musical instrument and practice for few years. Maybe by that the ear star hearing properly sound properties. Nothing wrong if people dislike the wide sound of the hd800 but a hifiman as wide and real as those? Sennheiser is on a Different engineering level revel
@@jhontroll4612 As an EX musican yes, Hifiman gets close. Scary close and yes i do own HD800 and Ananda along with
LCD 2C.
@@Thevikingcam That's nuts dude. What a steal for this phone then. Have you tried out the HD800s or just the original 800? It's insane to me to see that they are that close.
What is the song you use in the intro?
i have owned the anandas for over 2 years and still amazed the sound they can produce :) if you can get these for 500$ get it!! nothing can compare at that price :D i paid 900 euros for these so close to 1000$.
So which would sound better for movie soundtracks and epic trailer type music? The Sundara or the Ananda?
Anandas for the bigger sound
Bless I'm glad I waited until 2021 got mine for 640 from hifiman themselves
Please take a look at the Ananda Stealth, it's almost the same price as the Edition XS. Hard to chose between them with the limited reviews of the Stealth.
Tops Josh,
Yep have the ananda, satisfied as best can be with the can experience.
They can seem polite but do manage to lay the dynamic range out, particularly mid range.
I still can't get used to the stage and overall timbre if set beside floor standers. The latter just have it spatially and holographically with respect to performers and audience.
That said the sound musicality is there, the bass is well layered but not sledgehammer thick. The treble too presents clean but not silky slippery.
As for the build, yep the finish seems basic but durability is there if you have an understanding of material properties, the material aesthetic is just peculiar.
Ergonomically they do fail with respect to skull size, I fit a packer under the head band to alter the stage properties. It's not a deal breaker for me.
Gear: Icon audio hp8, latest. Rega Isis transport, chord cadenza interconnects.
I reckon the Atlas marvos would perform better but I feed that pair to the amp.
Really don't know whether to go for these or the LCD 2C