Let me know your thoughts on todays news and rumours Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 0:45 Leafs Recall Matt Murray 3:15 Bruins Terminate Tyler Johnson Contract 3:50 Roster Moves 4:30 Team USA WJC Name Captain 5:50 Pens Scouting NYR 6:50 Michkov / Habs 9:00 Sabres Rumours 12:50 Preds Lining up big move? 15:00 Huge Canucks & NYR Trade?
@@GhostOfJohnLennonyou might be right, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do. There’s at least one team interested, and their GM needs to make a splash cause his job may be on the line. I just hope NY Rangers have a worth while package to make a trade that’ll make the Canucks better. Cleanly they can still win without JT.
@@wati8995 the Canucks are at their best with miller and Petey each running a line. If you get rid of miller you suddenly become a one line team. So if you’re advocating for that you’re saying you want to punt on a season where Hughes is still affordable and arguably having a hart trophy season… I think people might be over reacting to this start to the season. I’d like to see them find a top 4 but it’s hard to find
Doesn't matter if Peterson right or JT Miller right, the divide in the room could sink them right out of the playoffs. It not just Petersons play that tails off when Miller in the lineup, Debrusk's does as well. With JT in the lineup, Peterson has produced 9 points, Debrusk 10. Without JT, Peterson produced 17 and Debrusk 13.
If im Buffalo, and absolutley HAVE to trade Cozens for some reason and the Preds are calling i want atleast their 1st this year unprotected and like.. alot more
@@SportsMuppets thing is JT doesn’t have too many years left. He’s 31 and Petey is 26. Makes more sense to keep Petey. Idk what the issue is though. You need 2 very good centers to win a cup
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The Sabres reasoning makes me laugh, instead of paying Reinhart they trade him for futures then give Cozens a big contract after 1 good season. Let Eichel have the surgery HE wants it's his body but you trade him for Tuch and the rest was garbage. ROR you trade at least you got Thompson and Ryan Johnson and the rest was garbage...do you see a pattern here? They traded those 3 players 2 top line centers and all you have to show for it is Thompson and Tuch and a bunch of futures who have not made a dent in the line-up. Yet you worry bc those players went on to win the cup with other teams...total insanity. Maybe beef up your pro and amateur scouting departments instead of going cheap. Adams has drafted 38 players and only 2 have made the NHL.
At the end of the day, it is the "team" that wins hockey games and gives you "compete". I must admit that some of Petterson's self-indulging, pouty interviews have rubbed me the wrong way as a longtime Canuck fan-- particularly when you are betting the future of the franchise for the next 8 years on his character. Additionally, I question whether he is the answer for the Canucks as he has not really demonstrated commitment to improving his skating, physique, and balance during his time here as well as the fact that he all but disappeared in the Playoffs last year and, in fact, the latter part of the season since signing his "franchise player" contract. He does not show any real evidence or concern about how much the franchise has invested in him and even suggested in his early contract negotiations last year that Canada, and Vancouver specifically, is too difficult of a hockey market to play in-- NOT what you want to hear from a true competitor! It makes sense to keep the player who is most passionate about winning-- like Vancouver fans-- and shows up when it counts. I do not hold competitiveness over Miller's head as at the end of the day hockey is a competitive sport and Vancouver is a competitive hockey market; however, if his personality is indeed overwhelming to the rest of the team as some inside analysts have suggested, then I would resign myself to moving Miller as long as the Canucks mgmt. make a SMART trade that improves the overall team competition level and consistency.
@@bluejaym237 Pens fan who likes mock trades. Kreider is awesome in front of the net. He might be washed, he might still be good. I basically matched salaries. Thanks for the feedback. You got a trade for JT? I'll listen.
@@1pbdecoded1pb lmao, Rangers aren't trading Othman or Emory for Petterson. No way Rangers trade Fox for what is being offered. Trading a Norris Trophy winner for garbage scraps is an insulting trade offer. And with Kreider? For both of them, Rangers would have to get back 3 top prospects AND at least 2 1st round pick plus 2 2nd round picks. Maybe Lindgren or Miller and Rangers would also want a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick.
@@arln1966 The Pens are scouting NYR farm club. What for? on both the Pens and Rangers side then? I assume Pettersson. I looked up the Rangers prospects and picked 2. My made up Fox trade is because the Rangers want JT Miller and the salaries have to work out under the cap. That's all. JT Miller isn't scraps and it is rumored that NYR want him and want to trade Kreider. Fox won the Norris Trophy in only 55 games. He has 1 goal this season in 32 games. Kreider has 1 assist and 12 points in 29 games. We'll see. Drury is the GM. Your not getting picks and prospects, there is a salary cap.
When Adams in Buffalo took over, he had no choice but to trade disgruntled players, Eichel and Reinhart. That they each went on to win cups elsewhere should be irrelevant in trade decisions now. Move on already!
If I’m Vancouver I’m open to trading for schneider in exchange for miller. They have to be careful though after the horvat deal. I feel like they’re in a good position with how desperate New York is.
Nucks are not trading Miller or Pettersson without a center coming back. A trade involving BC boy Barzal makes sense. If you can squeeze Dobson too it's a win. It would take a lot but that's the kind of package needed for Van. I'd take a swing at Vatrano too. I think Boeser to Rangers or Minny before the deadline will happen.
Again your quoting hacks and again wrong. The pp has nothing to do with that and the proof is they have been united several times on the same line. EP was producing before and it stopped once Sherwood was taken off his line. As for a trade it would have nothing to do with picks or prospects and would have to include a C. Please stop using hacks like Leggo rocks.
@@tripnotic100 - I did say "rumor." Last time I checked, "rumors" were never anything more than "rumors." I didn't hear it from Freidman himself, so it must have been from one of these guys who hypes it up to make it sound like more of a possibility that the original "rumor" was than just a possibility. Anyway, if the trade offer was made, I think both teams could actually benefit. Just saying.
@ again, it wasn’t a rumour it was a “what might a trade between these 2 teams look like” exercise from Elliotte. Please figure out what “rumour” means.
IF You trade Miller, then pettersson will whine about wanting to play for a winning team and request a trade a year later. So trade petey he wants out anyway. At 11.6 and petterssons playoff production ,good riddance 😊
Trade both Miller and Pettersson. Try to get back some men who are willing to be men who play professional hockey. I am sick and tired of babies playing in Canuck uniforms.
If the Canucks are going to trade Miller to NYR, the price has to start with Gabe Perreault. Adding him, Lekkerimaki, and Willander to Hughes, Petterson, and the not yet old DeBrusk keeps their core young and talented. I'd move on from Boeser.
Let me know your thoughts on todays news and rumours
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:45 Leafs Recall Matt Murray
3:15 Bruins Terminate Tyler Johnson Contract
3:50 Roster Moves
4:30 Team USA WJC Name Captain
5:50 Pens Scouting NYR
6:50 Michkov / Habs
9:00 Sabres Rumours
12:50 Preds Lining up big move?
15:00 Huge Canucks & NYR Trade?
Why would we trade miller hes our best center
was
I'd love to see JT Miller back in NY. The team shouldn't have traded him in the first place, honestly.
@@Andyanddiana467 miller isn’t getting traded. Especially not to the rangers 🤣
@@GhostOfJohnLennonyou might be right, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they do. There’s at least one team interested, and their GM needs to make a splash cause his job may be on the line. I just hope NY Rangers have a worth while package to make a trade that’ll make the Canucks better. Cleanly they can still win without JT.
@@wati8995 the Canucks are at their best with miller and Petey each running a line. If you get rid of miller you suddenly become a one line team. So if you’re advocating for that you’re saying you want to punt on a season where Hughes is still affordable and arguably having a hart trophy season… I think people might be over reacting to this start to the season. I’d like to see them find a top 4 but it’s hard to find
Lots of takers for JT Miller at $8M. But, any GM would be nuts to take on Pettersson's $93M contract!
Doesn't matter if Peterson right or JT Miller right, the divide in the room could sink them right out of the playoffs. It not just Petersons play that tails off when Miller in the lineup, Debrusk's does as well. With JT in the lineup, Peterson has produced 9 points, Debrusk 10. Without JT, Peterson produced 17 and Debrusk 13.
Seems hoglander may be involved, he is also good friends with Petey and has struggled terribly.
@@SleeCeemaybe Hoglander would do better without miller around too. 🤷🏻♂️
merry christmas top shelf
If im Buffalo, and absolutley HAVE to trade Cozens for some reason and the Preds are calling i want atleast their 1st this year unprotected and like.. alot more
Media and pod casters have picked their sides about jt Miller vs. Pettersson ..I'd trade Pettersson,
Trade them both. Get all the attitude out.
@@SportsMuppets thing is JT doesn’t have too many years left. He’s 31 and Petey is 26. Makes more sense to keep Petey. Idk what the issue is though. You need 2 very good centers to win a cup
I wanted to extend my best wishes to you and yours on this holiday season. I also wanted to send my thanks for all the hours of hard work that you put into your channel. It provides entertainment for hockey hopefuls and I really appreciate all of your effort.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
The Sabres reasoning makes me laugh, instead of paying Reinhart they trade him for futures then give Cozens a big contract after 1 good season. Let Eichel have the surgery HE wants it's his body but you trade him for Tuch and the rest was garbage. ROR you trade at least you got Thompson and Ryan Johnson and the rest was garbage...do you see a pattern here? They traded those 3 players 2 top line centers and all you have to show for it is Thompson and Tuch and a bunch of futures who have not made a dent in the line-up. Yet you worry bc those players went on to win the cup with other teams...total insanity. Maybe beef up your pro and amateur scouting departments instead of going cheap. Adams has drafted 38 players and only 2 have made the NHL.
At the end of the day, it is the "team" that wins hockey games and gives you "compete". I must admit that some of Petterson's self-indulging, pouty interviews have rubbed me the wrong way as a longtime Canuck fan-- particularly when you are betting the future of the franchise for the next 8 years on his character. Additionally, I question whether he is the answer for the Canucks as he has not really demonstrated commitment to improving his skating, physique, and balance during his time here as well as the fact that he all but disappeared in the Playoffs last year and, in fact, the latter part of the season since signing his "franchise player" contract. He does not show any real evidence or concern about how much the franchise has invested in him and even suggested in his early contract negotiations last year that Canada, and Vancouver specifically, is too difficult of a hockey market to play in-- NOT what you want to hear from a true competitor!
It makes sense to keep the player who is most passionate about winning-- like Vancouver fans-- and shows up when it counts. I do not hold competitiveness over Miller's head as at the end of the day hockey is a competitive sport and Vancouver is a competitive hockey market; however, if his personality is indeed overwhelming to the rest of the team as some inside analysts have suggested, then I would resign myself to moving Miller as long as the Canucks mgmt. make a SMART trade that improves the overall team competition level and consistency.
Any trade where you send pettersson out is a trade you lose. Period.
@@nicholaskent7590 You can thank Allvin and Rutherford for that. Period.
Marcus Pettersson to the Rangers for Brennan Othman or EJ Emory.
Adam Fox and Chris Kreider for JT Miller and Filip Hronek.
Yuck. Kreider is too old
@@bluejaym237 Pens fan who likes mock trades. Kreider is awesome in front of the net. He might be washed, he might still be good. I basically matched salaries. Thanks for the feedback. You got a trade for JT? I'll listen.
@@1pbdecoded1pb lmao, Rangers aren't trading Othman or Emory for Petterson.
No way Rangers trade Fox for what is being offered. Trading a Norris Trophy winner for garbage scraps is an insulting trade offer. And with Kreider?
For both of them, Rangers would have to get back 3 top prospects AND at least 2 1st round pick plus 2 2nd round picks.
Maybe Lindgren or Miller and Rangers would also want a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round pick.
@@arln1966 The Pens are scouting NYR farm club. What for? on both the Pens and Rangers side then? I assume Pettersson. I looked up the Rangers prospects and picked 2. My made up Fox trade is because the Rangers want JT Miller and the salaries have to work out under the cap. That's all. JT Miller isn't scraps and it is rumored that NYR want him and want to trade Kreider. Fox won the Norris Trophy in only 55 games. He has 1 goal this season in 32 games. Kreider has 1 assist and 12 points in 29 games. We'll see. Drury is the GM. Your not getting picks and prospects, there is a salary cap.
Elliot Friedman said he’ll stop talking Canucks but Top Shelf never made that promise 😎
When Adams in Buffalo took over, he had no choice but to trade disgruntled players, Eichel and Reinhart. That they each went on to win cups elsewhere should be irrelevant in trade decisions now. Move on already!
Schneider is going nowhere. Miller bye bye 👋
Miller for miller. Lets go. I know NYR have to add to that but Im ready for K'Andre to move on.
The Rangers currently do not have a suitable player to replace JT, the Sabers do... Don't trade JT for anything, please...!!!
Miller is older and he seems to have issues with players so move him
Miller was headstrong in New York and Tampa. They moved him for a reason.
LOL K'Andre Miller for JT no way
If I’m Vancouver I’m open to trading for schneider in exchange for miller. They have to be careful though after the horvat deal. I feel like they’re in a good position with how desperate New York is.
Rangers won't trade Schneider. Miller? Yes.
Aside from McDavid there’s no other clutch playoff player than Miller so he’s not going anywhere
@Stealth259 Hockey is a team sport. Miller is no way being close to McDAVID skills. Lol
Nucks are not trading Miller or Pettersson without a center coming back. A trade involving BC boy Barzal makes sense. If you can squeeze Dobson too it's a win. It would take a lot but that's the kind of package needed for Van. I'd take a swing at Vatrano too. I think Boeser to Rangers or Minny before the deadline will happen.
Cuyllle is on track to be better than Miller real soon. They wont move him.
Rangers and Lightning both got rid of JT Miller for a reason.
@@IrishNew both of those teams would have never traded him if they knew he would produce so much
NHL problem child. let New York with issues Left Tampa with issues and now Vancouver, who is the problem Petey or JT? it isnt hard
imo it has to start with schneider and maybe chytil.
Neither of those two are leaving New York.
Kreider and Miller? Definitely. And Rangers have to get high-end draft picks along with players in return
Tage and Tuch for Petey
Again your quoting hacks and again wrong.
The pp has nothing to do with that and the proof is they have been united several times on the same line.
EP was producing before and it stopped once Sherwood was taken off his line.
As for a trade it would have nothing to do with picks or prospects and would have to include a C.
Please stop using hacks like Leggo rocks.
I heard a rumor that Buffalo had turned down a Cozens and Byram to Vancouver for Pettersson. I think this would be good for Buffalo.
@@garrytemchuk7408 nope. That was just something Freidman tossed out as a possibility. Not an actual offer.
@@tripnotic100 - I did say "rumor." Last time I checked, "rumors" were never anything more than "rumors." I didn't hear it from Freidman himself, so it must have been from one of these guys who hypes it up to make it sound like more of a possibility that the original "rumor" was than just a possibility. Anyway, if the trade offer was made, I think both teams could actually benefit. Just saying.
@ again, it wasn’t a rumour it was a “what might a trade between these 2 teams look like” exercise from Elliotte. Please figure out what “rumour” means.
IF You trade Miller, then pettersson will whine about wanting to play for a winning team and request a trade a year later. So trade petey he wants out anyway. At 11.6 and petterssons playoff production ,good riddance 😊
I hope it is Zibanejad + Jones + ? for JT Miller
Canucks hang up 😂
@@CanadiansEH probably because Canadiens are tapping the phone lines.
What a homer trade. 🤦🤦
@@PTrep2727 their age, cap hit, stats and skills are almost equivalent. Look it up.
@@PabloDiabloTreasures cuylle, schneider, trochek for Miller
Trade both Miller and Pettersson. Try to get back some men who are willing to be men who play professional hockey.
I am sick and tired of babies playing in Canuck uniforms.
🚨🚨Panarin back to Chicago
Won't happen unless Chicago is willing to mortgage their draft future by giving the Rangers at least 2 number 1s, 2 number 2s, and 2 number 3s
The host, I mean.
Are you drunk?
Are YOU talking to yourself in the mirror, again🤔? Just asking....
If the Canucks are going to trade Miller to NYR, the price has to start with Gabe Perreault. Adding him, Lekkerimaki, and Willander to Hughes, Petterson, and the not yet old DeBrusk keeps their core young and talented. I'd move on from Boeser.
lol that’s never gonna happen rangers aren’t giving him up for miller
@@yossarian1385 Gabe is going nowhere, they will not trade him.
@@Nyr22821 Then they won't get Miller. Who else do they have Van would want? Miller produces big offense for $8m AAV. He's a serious asset.
@@gr8tnowwhat Then they won't get Miller. Rangers have no one else to offer. Kreider? Hahahaha.
Miller 4 cuylle and a defenceman. If cuylle not apart of that. Then no thanks.
Cuyle and Schneider are off the table, you can keep Miller, that bum belongs in Buffalo.
You're on crack with that trade offer. Cuylle not going anywhere
@arln1966 not on crack. Because you have to give up something decent for miller. Cuylle is decent. 100 point player for a potential good forward.
@TheBlazersfan22 Cuylle not going anywhere.