The part where Nick watches Pirates of The Caribbean and debates whether or not Orlando Bloom or Kiera Knightly are the most attractive is definitely a relatable bi experience
I love the relatability that some scenes in the show present. Just as you said about the Bi-awakening with Keira and Orlando in Pirates, we can see other really relatable moments: the “Am I gay” research for instance, or the way people say inconvenient things thinking they are doing good (Imogen ally talk or the girl on rehearsal telling Tara that she’s so brave). I think that’s one of the things that made people really connect with the show, cuz if it was just the good and beauty of being LGBTQIAP+, it would be nice but not the most believable, and with those tiny bits of relatable experiences, they not just make it more realistic, but easier for people to connect. Alice Oseman is really a genius!
That and the Star Wars prequels were literally my bisexual awakening. I was sitting there as a tween like, “Why do I fancy Obi-Wan AND Padme/Will AND Elizabeth?” Then I realised I had a crush on one of my friends at school and had to do some investigation, same as Nick.
Just realized in this review that Nick asks Charlie how he knew he liked boys and Tara how she knew she liked girls. Strong methodology in exploring the bi 😂
I love that the show portrays multiple stages of the "coming out" process. Charlie is a year out, Nick is just starting his journey, and Tara and Darcy are in the middle of coming out.
honestly, as a bisexual? nick's confusion is really relatable to me, and it never really fully goes away. i'm 100% confident in my identity as bi, i've dated people of all genders and persuasions and loved it every time - but every so often i wonder if i'm just making it up. i tend to lean more towards men (not consciously - i've just dated more men than women, and am currently dating a man) and the thought of "i'm probably just gay and in denial" does come up every so often. it's a staple of bisexuality, pretty much - and i figured it out when i was younger than nick (i'm 18 and have been semi-openly bi since i was 9) so i'd imagine it's way more confusing for him. i totally get what ur saying, about gay people sometimes viewing bisexuality as a stepping stone in their personal journeys and therefore some unfortunately going on to invalidate actual bisexuals as a result of that - i think we kinda do the opposite? wishing we could just "pick a side" as it were, because i feel too gay for my straight friends and too straight for my gay friends. it's weird. i think it's important for bisexuals and gays/lesbians to talk about that sort of thing, because our experiences are more similar than we give them credit for, i think :0 i was also incredibly deeply excited that nick actually used the word bisexual. so many shows see it as dirty or strange and therefore don't ever use the actual word, so it made me very happy to see him use it, even if he wasn't 500% certain of it initially :D (sorry for the rambly comment, i just love talking about being bi & your commentary is interesting)
In the words of the boys (don't apologise!) We love to hear people's experiences and sharing their stories, it makes this even more wonderful for us when making these videos, getting those insights and we are very grateful! Also totally agree with your points here regarding having that communication as part of the community X❤️
“Too gay for straight friends and too straight for gay friends” is SUCH A MOOD. It can be so confusing, especially when there’s no representation really to explain that bisexuality is an actual sexuality, and not a phase or just something some people “do sometimes” Alice Oseman is my hero for creating Nick Nelson.
@@Angelareadsalot yeah exactly!! so many of nick's scenes brought me to tears bc i felt so seen. it's so common to feel dismissed by both people in and out of the community, so it was really relieving to feel included for once
totally agree with confusion never going away fully. sometimes it's just: "maybe it's society pressure me to like boys and I actually don't" or "what if my feelings towards girls are not what I think it is and I just admire them because girls are objectively pretty" but as time goes it happens less and less
fun fact: the creator alice oseman asked on twitter what movie people considered “most bisexual” in terms of the attractiveness of the main leads, and the overwhelming majority said pirates of the caribbean another fun fact: the milkshakes were actually disgusting because they had water in them instead of milk
The thinking that bi or pan people would cheat or not be satisfied is so weird to me. Being bi or pan is like linking people no matter their eye color or thinking all eye colors are attractive. You don't have to have a relationship with multiple people so you have all eye colors at the same time and you don't miss being with a blue- or green eyed person when you have a brown eyed partner. It just means you can be attracted to all.
omg yes thank you for talking about bi visibility in media, and yes bisexuality is often represented by oversexualized girls to please straight men audience or something 😭 nick is such perfect bi representation 💖💜💙 and you're right figuring out that you're bi is very confusing because of heternormative society, to me it happened kinda later in life just because I was sure I liked the opposite gender but couldn't understand what I felt towards the same gender for years literally
Also, bisexual women in media are usually portayed as more bicurious than bisexual - as in they will only have relationships with guys and occasionally hook up with women. But then end up with a guy at the end of the movie/tv series
oMG SAME. Like I´m 29 and I just realised I liked girls too when I was like 25. When I realised that I was bi I was like OH SO THAT´S WHY I WAS SO OBSESSED WITH WANTING TO BE THAT GIRL´S FRIEND IN HIGHSCHOOL lmao.
@@TheMissPattz exactly!!! I was 22. so many times I thought: if I was a man I would date/marry her until I realized I don't have to be a man🤣 and looking back at your life you just see the hints and for how long you've been in denial. like I obviously had a big crush on a girl and I knew it was a crush but I thought "all straight girls have a crush on a girl at least once right??👀"
The part with the "lesbians are so disgusting" scene is so interesting to me. It's awful, obviously. But I think it's really interesting that it's the girls displaying the most blatant, unapologetic homophobia, while Harry and the boys hide it under excuses and jokes. I think most people think that girls, especially young girls, are inherently less homophobic than boys are, or more accepting, and it was interesting to see Heartstopper showing that no, girls as a group and as individuals can absolutely be homophobic as well. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but it does in my head. 😅 Just wanted to point it out because it was something I already thought whenever I watched this episode, and because you guys pointed it out.
Yeah, having been to an all girls school where a girl came out as bi, there was definitely homophobia. However, it was much less the "it's disgusting" shown here and more, "I don't feel comfortable in the change room with her any more" and "what if she has a crush on me" bullsh*t.
Girls and women often have a lot of internalised mysogyny, which may make their homophobia towards lesbians twice bad, possibly because in our patriarchic culture lesbians break gender norms in more ways that gay men do, and in such cultures women have been forced to become moral guardians of straight femininity & sexuality in order to protect their in-group status as a potential partner for a straight man. It's really messed up.
@@ktm9292 I feel like the last two are even worse because you get hurt by them saying you're disgusting but them outright saying that they're uncomfortable with you being around them it's really dishearten. They probably already knew them before or seen them around and had no problem changing or Ihad no problems with them, didn't see them any less of human being but just because they came out as lesbians they're seen a different light. It's quite sad but that's just how things are for some people with that mindset.
I’m 32 and I’m beginning to realise from this show, that I am bisexual. I’ve never labelled myself specifically, and I am in a “straight” relationship currently. I’ve always felt like an ally, but now I’m thinking I’m part of the community 🌈
Same here, except I'm a bit older and it's probably too late for me to explore this side of me. I feel like a fool but somehow I never thought much of my recurring crushes on women until I saw this show and I realised I might actually be bisexual. I kind of wish this show had existed when I was young and still had time and opportunity to experiment. Oh well, it is what it is.
The “you’re so brave” comment reminds me of people who say to my brother (who has a disability) “oh you’re such an inspiration” simply for existing, when he’s just like trying to buy milk or something. Or when people say to me (a single mum) “oh I don’t know how you do it” as if I have a choice in the matter and as if they can’t imagine my life being bright and fulfilling, it must be horrible and traumatic. It’s the lack of a qualifier. She didn’t say “you’re brave for coming out with (what was effectively) a public announcement” she didn’t witness someone being homophobic and call Tara brave for how she dealt with it. She literally called her brave for being a lesbian, which is ridiculous, reads as if it’s a choice she made, and assumes her life must be so awful that simply existing as a lesbian is unimaginably horrible to her.
Yeah as someone with a disability when ever I do something I am told I am an inspiration even though my disability barely effects me (due to surgery and aids). I hate that I will come last and get more cheers and congratulations than the person who came first and achally did something amazing/inspirational
small note: darcy is definitely a loose cannon but she would never out nick. it’s not talked about in the show (at least not this season) but while darcy is out and proud at school, she’s not out to her family. like despite her lack of filter and boundaries, i think outing is definitely where she would draw the line.
Cracks me up when Nick says he’s crap at music when in real life Kit plays piano and guitar, and can sing really well. I think Tao didn’t see Nick and Charlie holding hands because he’s such a lousy runner, he was so far behind all of them, and Elle blocked him from seeing them. Can’t wait for the The next video, even more excited for when you watch the season finale!!!! ❤️❤️
I’m gay and I initially came out as bi - to soft launch as you say. Everyone just called me gay anyway - which in my case worked out fine but for an actual bi person it would have been infuriating.
@@AStoryWorthTelling In my eagerness to mention that little easter egg, I forgot to mention that this is my second favorite episode of the season. As I mentioned last time, things might not play out as perfectly in real life, but it's very important for queer teens (and parents) to see what happens when said teen are sorrounded by a support group. Charlie's patience with Nick, letting him come out on his own terms and Nick confiding in Tara and Darcy are great examples. Even when things turn dour for Tara after coming out, Darcy is there for her, even if it's just to lend an ear.
there are so many little details like that. The bi lightning on the party, in the arcade, the way Nick looks towards his closet in his room when starting to chat longer with Charlie, the little rainbows everywhere, prisms, real ones, umbrellas....
As far as Tao not reacting to Nick and Charlie holding hands in the hallway run…..Tao is too far back to be able to see Nick and Charlie and there are shadows in the hall.
I love watching Alex become increasingly more admiring of this show. You started so skeptical that it would be good or that you would like it. Now we're to the 'it gets better and better." stage. I love it!
Charlie giving Nick space to figure out his identity is done very subtly and intelligently. He doesn't ever pressure Nick to label himself. Also love how Nick is supportive of Charlie's hobbies and wants to be the best boyfriend he can be. Tara and Darcy reflect a later point of the same journey Nick and Charlie are on in terms of acknowledging who they are and their relationship with each other. It was great to see through their eyes the backlash queer women still get after coming out and provides a different perspective to viewers. And finally, I have no idea how Tao lacks the basic skill of observance to notice Nick and Charlie holding hands in the corridor. Actually, scratch that. He still has no idea Elle likes him back. Love the kid but he seriously needs to get an effing clue!
Watched Heartstopper so many times that I had to move on to reaction vids lol. SO glad I did because I found you two, and an entire archive of your content to watch! This was my favourite episode seeing Charlie be so accepting and genuinely happy for Nick, not threatened or confused by bisexuality, is a gift!!! hearts from Canada
This is my favourite episode. My son came out so happily as bi a while ago, he knows we love and support him no matter what. He is very out and proud and thankfully shows like HS are so positive 😍. Love, love your observations, I laugh and gush and tear up in equal measure. Keep it up 🤗
Honestly as a bisexual how much I relate to Nick with his sexuality is unreal. I was honestly really confused at first, so his journey throughout the series really hits. Nick is the bi representation we all need! ❤❤
The thing that annoys me so much is people thinking that being bisexual makes us prone to cheating. No, we are not like that. I like boys and girls that doesn't mean that my partner can't feel secure about our relationship. Thats just disrespectful you know. The representation of bisexuality in the series made me confident about mine, i just hope all the bisexual kids can know thats its confusing at time but they are so valid.
I comletely agree!!!! I watch a lot of British soap operas and I've seen 1 bi character across all of them that hasn't cheated. I get that it has to be dramatic but they've had a lot of bi characters. There was one case where a guy was officially labeled as bi, promised multiple times that he wouldn't cheat on his husband (they might have only been dating at the time but not the point) and then he went and got a woman pregnant. This happened in the show while I was just coming to terms with my own bi-ness. It hurt a lot.
@@katsimpsforleviathan Ah yes, Emmerdale and Robert Sugden. I was so angry at that storyline. Did the same with the female bisexual character, Charity. Had her cheat on her fiance and its like, why??
@@thelibertini3757 yep! Charity has a whole history of cheating on men with women and on women with men. She cheated on Chris Tate with his sister. Bernice's ex fiance (I don't remember his name) cheated on her with anyone who would have him. It's just so frustrating that we can list so many times when they've deliberately played on disgusting stereotypes
It's so sweet when Nick comes out to Tara and Darcy. He puts his trust in his burgeoning friendship with the girls. The look on his face as he tells them is so sweet. He's becoming more comfortable with his relationship with Charlie that he's able to express it so well.
The LGBT kids finding each other definitely mirrors my teenage years. Building up your little community to go through it all together. I love to see it
i really appreciated your conversation on bi visibility. when i came out i received responses from both straight and gay friends and family that it was "ok for me to just say i'm gay because bisexuality doesn't really exist." they were trying to let me know that i didn't need to soft-launch with them, like you mentioned. no one was overly negative, but they weren't supportive either. i was also asked if that means i sleep with other people besides my partner. (to be clear: nothing wrong with this, but it's not a great first response or anyone's business unless i decide it is!) it's no surprise when hyper-sexuality or cheating often goes hand-in-hand with the majority of bi representation (particularly women) on screen. largely being bi has meant that i feel like most people doubt my reality and my honesty. they seem to either think i'm lying to myself or them and that hurts. seeing more people like nick in tv and movies is great (and seeing the universal bi pirates of the caribbean panic is hilarious.) thanks for taking the time to talk about it!
as a cis bi woman who is pushing 40, this show has given me so many mixed feelings. on the one hand, I am so excited that this new generation gets to have a show like this to teach them how to have healthy communication in their relationships, and how to navigate the coming out experience during those tough times of adolescence. on the other hand, I have a tad bit of jealousy that I did not have this when I was a teen. it makes me so emotional! I didn't realize I was bi until I was in college and I wish I would have known then what I know now. the bisexual struggle of not being sure whether you're really attracted to someone or whether you just admire them as a friend and want to spend time with them never really goes away. it does get easier, but it honestly wasn't until my early-mid 20s that I was comfortable in my bisexuality and even then, I was still finding my way. anyway, I'm so grateful this show exists now because it's my happy place (I've already watched it 4 times now) and I hope other bi kids can find their way through Nick Nelson's journey on the show. 💖💜💙 thanks for another wonderful reaction ❤️
I hardly ever enjoy reaction videos, but I smile almost as much watching you guys as a do when I watch Heartstopper!!! Nick’s struggle with his sexuality is so relatable to me because when I came out at 24, I simply told everyone that I was dating a woman because I wasn’t sure how to define my sexuality yet. At least at that time (14 years ago), people were rarely satisfied without a label. I love how Heartstopper only uses labels to empower, and never because anyone else demands it.
16:04 I love how Nick flips him over so he’s on top of Charlie. *Charlie, lovingly tackles nick* Nicks Brain: hold on a minute I’m the top in this relationship ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Can't explain how much i love this show,especially since it helped me accept myself and come out to my mom❤and I love yalls reaction,making it fun and I love your reviews and opinions ❤
In regards to boxing people in with language, I can relate to that on a heavy scale. My family used to do that with me before I came out as bi, always saying things along the lines of “ohh, are you into that boy?” Regarding most of my male friends. However, I’ll never forget the one time after I came out, I was on the phone with my grandma, and my mom asked who I was calling. My grandma heard this and said, “tell her it’s your girlfriend”. I was so happy after that, knowing that I had her full support.
Seeing your uploads is as much a highlight of my week as my daily Heartstopper fix! Thanks! We need to take a moment to appreciate especially Tara and Darcy's response to Nick. Charlie also has great responses to Nick questioning his sexuality and considering that he is bisexual, but I'm loving these conversations. "I don't even know what my sexuality is" -"that's okay...' -"don't feel like you have to come out to anyone before you're ready" "I'm not really out yet" -"do you want to be?" "you're the first people I've told, about Charlie" -"does it feel good to have told someone?" Ugh, 2 episodes left, and can't wait to see your reactions to both!
This was my favorite episode because I loved Nick getting advice/help from Tara. A lesbian already out couple helping out a still secret gay couple, it was sweet.
As a Bi person, I just feel so hurt when people say that I'm "half" straight or "half" lesbian, is like they're saying that I'm a half a person or something... and sadly most of those times I have heard it from other LGBTQIA+ people (none of them were my friends, thankGOD) but that type of commentary just doesn't help me or anyone really, and it definitely haunts my mind in those times of self dought that we all humans experience from time to time...
I enjoyed all the episodes. I do love how Nick is growing and the start of his coming out process. From telling Tara to just throwing it out there with Elle. There was that initial hesitancy and then looking for the opportunity to just drop it in. 'We thought it would be fun to go on a triple date. You and Tao, Tara and Darcy....'. Even Tao would have seen that coming from triple date, and he seems pretty oblivious to the fact that the guy that Charlie has a crush on has been hanging with the group non-stop for months and yes, holding hands.
Honestly, finding the understanding lesbian friend who had it more sorted then me was a critical part of my confused gay teen experience and I HIGHLY recommend it.
Is it my birthday? You guys uploaded 3 days after the previous heartstopper reaction. Your reactions are one of the things I look for every week. Love you guys from the Philippines xx
Fun fact for the pirates of the Caribbean film they had to ask the actors in the film if they were ok in using the clip in the episode before it could be used
"When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy." from 'The Prophet' in 1923, and perfectly describing my Heartstopper experience 100 yrs later
9:46 I agree and I did the same thing, I told my family I was Bi so it would be easier to accept me. And then I came out as Gay later on, when I was comfortable with myself and my sexuality.
You both bring so much joy. Love the reaction video and thank you for noticing Nick and Charlie holding hands and Tao being oblivious. My friends had no reaction to that scene. Can’t wait for the next one.
I think this episode was about nick and the girls despite the episode title, I think I was about nick reilising that he likes girls too, not just boys and then the progress with the two girls and Elle. All in all, good episode.
14:55 I think you hit the nail on the head here. I do hear the feedback that sometimes LGBTQ representation isn’t “realistic” but I think there is room for both, the realistic and the idealistic. There can be a lot of complicated feelings and experiences that at any age can be difficult to put into words, I think having a show like this to watch especially with family/friends who may not have the same can better understand.
Just wanted to share something : when they're running at 23:17 tara and darcy (Lesbian) are fisrt, then charlie (Gay) and Nick (Bisexual) and then Elle (Transgender) which make LGBT . Don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it was think like that but i find that amazing!
Even if Tao did see Charlie and Nick holding hands - he wouldn't equate ot to a romantic relationship. He and Elle hold hands, link arms and tell each other they love each other in a platonic way. I think the show shows being affectionate with your friends of whatever gender being a good thing and not inherently romantic (or "acting gay", which is often thrown at boys who show a softer side to each other).
As somewhere who, even now at 28, still struggles to label their sexuality, I loved this series. Growing up through Catholic school, when I started to realise I liked boys, I first had internalised homophobia, then realised I like both boys and girls, and the more I heard from LGBTQ+ people, the more I thought I must just be kidding myself liking girls, and that I must really be gay. Even now, I’m closeted at work but out to friends - but out as ‘I don’t really know what I am…’ I hope this series can help younger people realise that, as long as you’re happy, love is love whatever the label. Thanks for your reaction, you both seem great!
"...Peeping Tom looking out the window could have seen that." "Well great for Tom." .... for the love of all that's holy, I couldn't breathe I laughed so hard!
episode 6 is definitley one of my favourites, but episode 5 is certainly my top episode. i just love the birthday party, and nicks scene with imogen, and tao and charlies scene. episode 6 is right up there though, with the milkshake dates, elle finding out, tao being the last to know, the taradarcy talk, the bisexuality "vlogs". episode 2 and 8 are also up there as my top favourites. come prepared for episode 7, it's an emotional rollercoaster. and to think, everything that's happened so far in the netflix series happened in just 2 and a half (out of 8) chapters in the comics.
This made me laugh in the dead of night XD I never thought of the milkshake scene that way 🤣🤣 Love your POVs on Tara and Darcy's situation; can't wait for the next reaction!
3:41 I'm Gen X and I've really worked hard to reduce my cis-heteronormative speech. I'm trying to use more gender neutral terms in general. I have a Gen Z child and I think he's cishet, but I'm still trying to not box him into that, in case he discovers he's pan or bi or gay or ace. He has said he's pretty sure he's cis.
Hello from Maine, Great reviews fun, heart felt, good discussion and thanks for sharing. After I watched this series I realized it helped me look at some repressed emotions as a closeted gay athlete in HS who had the crushes on best friends a few times. I ended up tracking down my HS Ski Coach. I lettered in xcountry skiing four years and was Captain of the team my senior year. We had a great phone conversation where I came out to him and thanked him for all the consistent support as a coach. I thanked him for the opportunity to be Captain and told him that it was a start that helped me in leadership roles in my life. He said, 'Geoff wait right there, that was not a role that I assigned to you but one that your team mates chose for you.'. Needless to say, I did not know that and was blown away. We had a great talk and he is still my coach in so many ways. Best to you boys across the pond! Keep up the great reviews! You are affirming much!
When I was like 10 my dad was talking to me about relationships, and he said "when you eventually bring home your boy or girlfriend" which I feel like made my life so much easier than it would have been if he didn't say those words to me... And I'm so glad I got to hear that back then, but at the time, I was just a kid so I remember my brain going "why would I ever have a girlfriend? O_O" because I didn't know what homosexuality was, I had never even heard about gays xD That being said, I was still scared to come out to dad once I realized that I am indeed a teensy bit gay, so I just blurted it out to him when I was drunk. He was in a different room and I just shouted that I like women from the couch xD He just laughed and said "I know" :')
About the asking for kisses: one thing that really caught my attention in the series is how greatly they model consent. It might not seem the most natural at first, but i like how they model options for young people to communicate that.
I am a man who has always identified as gay, ever since I understood what the word meant. I lived in San Francisco for 15 years and I swear I could count the number of self-declared bisexual men I knew on one hand. Most of my gay friends did not believe that bisexuality really existed. Then I moved to Sacramento, a much more conservative city, In various conversations men I'd had sex with, I was asked if I was not attracted to women, even a little bit. I found it a very strange question, but after being asked it many times, at some point, it hit me, bisexuality realty does exist.
It was very confusing especially as a girl to figure out I was bi because girls already are so intimate just with friends that it took a long time for me to separate my interest in girls from normal girl interactions. Especially because I didn’t even know about bisexuality until I left my small town and met my best guy friend in college who was bi and answered all of my questions
Loved this Show! Wish I'd had something like it when I was figuring it all out. It's just nice to see a happy LGBTQ+ story for a change. Love you two as well, keep up the good work.♥♥
I really loved the bisexuality representation and how well accepted it was within the friend group and specially by Charlie. Growing up bisexual for me was really difficult. Biphobia still is a reality within the lgbtq+ community, but this show has been helping me to accept myself as bisexual. So yeah! 🥰 loved your reactions again!! Heading for the next one!
It’s hard to have a favourite episode when there’s a ‘favourite moment’ in every one, we just end up rewatching the series. Your take on how this series is great at showing people communicating is something we never thought about 🤔 probably due to growing up in a time and in a place where it isn’t easy to come out.
We're really loving your reactions to this show. Since finding you guys through Heartstopper we've also watched many of your other videos. Love your perspective and you're both so adorable and entertaining!
I’ve been enjoying all of your reactions and smiling at them and laughing more with each one! What got me with this one is you are the first reactors I’ve seen (tbf that’s out of 6) to point out that Tao is behind Nick and Charlie when they run down the hall holding hands and that nothing comes of it. Must have been because Tao was too overwhelmed by running 😂 but I still love that I’m not the only one to get caught on that lmao
I know it was brought up in the vid, but the show is filmed in Herne Bay, in Kent, just north of Canterbury, and the school scenes were filmed in the school there.
My first brush with biphobia came from a girlfriend, actually. We were probably three months in and she dropped on me that she had to really think about dating me because I was bi (I'm pan actually, but that wasn't really a big thing then). I'd had reservations of my own but it was because she was 11 years younger than me, so I'd have understood more I think if she'd had other reasons for her concern. It hit me hard - that somehow my orientation would cause any kind of question about what kind of person I was from someone in my own community, no less - that someone I was on my way to loving thought for even a moment I might not be worth her time simply because I'd loved men in the past in the same way I was interested in her. I think there's this perception that the people in your own community will support you unreservedly - and that's not always the case, which just adds another layer to wade through. I never really came out to family, because back then and where I'm from you just didn't - you just did your best to escape your small town so you could have hope to live more freely. But like you mentioned, it's more acceptable that I'm a woman who mostly prefers women than it would be for a man who loved other men - even occasionally. That would add so much confusion to coming out when there's so little rep in media for bi and pan men. Even now, when my lovers are a man and his wife, that's okay because it's titillating to enough straight people to be "okay". Had it been a man and his husband, I suspect it would be a very different situation. I'm just glad that Heartstopper is doing such a good job with all kinds of representation and making it seem exactly like what it is - a commonplace part of life we all deal with in one way or another. We need more in the world for sure. Oh, and I love your reviews! Especially since you don't always see a scene the same way. It's nice to see the differences our own perceptions can make.
What a thrill ! a Saturday with your reaction! I am eagerly awaiting the other chapters! Excuse my English, I use the google translator, my English is very bad, even though I understand little, I don't know why I feel that I do understand you, I even laugh a lot with what you say! They definitely transmit something that surpasses any language, they do something universal! Thank you for making me happy with your videos!
Why can I imagine Josh giving Darcy a stern lecture?? 🤣 Josh [shaking his head]: Darcy, you’re just so 🦆ing chaotic - Darcy: 🦆 you!! It’s not chaos, it’s creativity!! And I’m gonna wear all my hoodies ANYWHERE I want to!!
The Riverside scene is on the south bank of the thames.in Windsor, looking across to the Eton side of the river. Cinema/shopping.mall scenes next week are in festival place in Basingstoke.
All that Bi lighting in the Kiss episode, Bi lighting at the bowling alley, Even Charlie's sweater when Nick tells him about the double date is blue,pink, grey. It's all coming together for Nick.
I love you guys!! I'm part of the bi community and I love this show, they're all so cute but so mature at the same time wtf as a swiftie 2:33 made me cringe for a moment but now I'm alright lol
16:15 - "No notes!" had me doing a spit take over my desktop. HA! (Any suggestions on how to clean a Lemon Drop martini from a Mac keyboard?) Love you guys and your "Heartstopper" reactions especially. Already subscribed. Now "Notified," too.(Patreon just has to be next, right?)
What the show also did really well was showing us how most people watching this labelled Nick as gay, just because he was with a boy. And I think that also happens a lot in reality. If someone is with someone of the same sex, they are viewed as gay and if not, they are viewed as heterosexual. In both cases someone could be bi or pan or something else
I love that the youtuber in the show is a real bisexual youtuber in real life! :) he did an amazing job! And I agree that the representation of bi in film or something is a girl that is mostly sexual with another girl or it's the boy that didn't figure it out just yet. I love that they don't go for that here! :)
The part where Nick watches Pirates of The Caribbean and debates whether or not Orlando Bloom or Kiera Knightly are the most attractive is definitely a relatable bi experience
Thanks for sharing! ❤️
I was watching a series with my mom and exactly the same thing happened to me, I was so afraid that she would notice.
That’s partly how I found out to
I love the relatability that some scenes in the show present. Just as you said about the Bi-awakening with Keira and Orlando in Pirates, we can see other really relatable moments: the “Am I gay” research for instance, or the way people say inconvenient things thinking they are doing good (Imogen ally talk or the girl on rehearsal telling Tara that she’s so brave). I think that’s one of the things that made people really connect with the show, cuz if it was just the good and beauty of being LGBTQIAP+, it would be nice but not the most believable, and with those tiny bits of relatable experiences, they not just make it more realistic, but easier for people to connect. Alice Oseman is really a genius!
That and the Star Wars prequels were literally my bisexual awakening. I was sitting there as a tween like, “Why do I fancy Obi-Wan AND Padme/Will AND Elizabeth?” Then I realised I had a crush on one of my friends at school and had to do some investigation, same as Nick.
@@HerHollyness For me, it was with Anakin in Revenge of The Sith
Just realized in this review that Nick asks Charlie how he knew he liked boys and Tara how she knew she liked girls. Strong methodology in exploring the bi 😂
He’s just like me fr
I love that the show portrays multiple stages of the "coming out" process. Charlie is a year out, Nick is just starting his journey, and Tara and Darcy are in the middle of coming out.
And it’s surely helping others to come out to.
Me included
Not to mention the many ways people can be out, being outed, come out publically and come out little by little
honestly, as a bisexual? nick's confusion is really relatable to me, and it never really fully goes away. i'm 100% confident in my identity as bi, i've dated people of all genders and persuasions and loved it every time - but every so often i wonder if i'm just making it up. i tend to lean more towards men (not consciously - i've just dated more men than women, and am currently dating a man) and the thought of "i'm probably just gay and in denial" does come up every so often. it's a staple of bisexuality, pretty much - and i figured it out when i was younger than nick (i'm 18 and have been semi-openly bi since i was 9) so i'd imagine it's way more confusing for him.
i totally get what ur saying, about gay people sometimes viewing bisexuality as a stepping stone in their personal journeys and therefore some unfortunately going on to invalidate actual bisexuals as a result of that - i think we kinda do the opposite? wishing we could just "pick a side" as it were, because i feel too gay for my straight friends and too straight for my gay friends. it's weird. i think it's important for bisexuals and gays/lesbians to talk about that sort of thing, because our experiences are more similar than we give them credit for, i think :0
i was also incredibly deeply excited that nick actually used the word bisexual. so many shows see it as dirty or strange and therefore don't ever use the actual word, so it made me very happy to see him use it, even if he wasn't 500% certain of it initially :D
(sorry for the rambly comment, i just love talking about being bi & your commentary is interesting)
In the words of the boys (don't apologise!) We love to hear people's experiences and sharing their stories, it makes this even more wonderful for us when making these videos, getting those insights and we are very grateful! Also totally agree with your points here regarding having that communication as part of the community X❤️
“Too gay for straight friends and too straight for gay friends” is SUCH A MOOD. It can be so confusing, especially when there’s no representation really to explain that bisexuality is an actual sexuality, and not a phase or just something some people “do sometimes” Alice Oseman is my hero for creating Nick Nelson.
@@Angelareadsalot yeah exactly!! so many of nick's scenes brought me to tears bc i felt so seen. it's so common to feel dismissed by both people in and out of the community, so it was really relieving to feel included for once
totally agree with confusion never going away fully. sometimes it's just: "maybe it's society pressure me to like boys and I actually don't" or "what if my feelings towards girls are not what I think it is and I just admire them because girls are objectively pretty" but as time goes it happens less and less
Exactly. You put it perfectly
Thank you!
fun fact: the creator alice oseman asked on twitter what movie people considered “most bisexual” in terms of the attractiveness of the main leads, and the overwhelming majority said pirates of the caribbean
another fun fact: the milkshakes were actually disgusting because they had water in them instead of milk
That's so interesting! Love learning bits of info like this, makes the series even more fun! X
The thinking that bi or pan people would cheat or not be satisfied is so weird to me. Being bi or pan is like linking people no matter their eye color or thinking all eye colors are attractive. You don't have to have a relationship with multiple people so you have all eye colors at the same time and you don't miss being with a blue- or green eyed person when you have a brown eyed partner. It just means you can be attracted to all.
Literallyyyy
Sexual orientation isn't the same as monogamy, ethical monogamy, polyamory etc.
Exactly. We are capable of monogamy. Being Bi just means your list of celebrity crushes is more...expansive. 😉 lol
As a straight person, this show has been so eye opening to me. We need more diverse media that doesn't just focus on racial diversity!
Always room for more Allies x ❤️
"We can't be bothered making a set for Darcy's room, just make a big pile of gay and have her lie on top of it"
Literally! Where is the floor of her bedroom!🤣
@@AStoryWorthTelling She has a thypical ADHD bedroom though...🙈
omg yes thank you for talking about bi visibility in media, and yes bisexuality is often represented by oversexualized girls to please straight men audience or something 😭
nick is such perfect bi representation 💖💜💙
and you're right figuring out that you're bi is very confusing because of heternormative society, to me it happened kinda later in life just because I was sure I liked the opposite gender but couldn't understand what I felt towards the same gender for years literally
Thanks for sharing. We need to improve visibility for all of us, not just gay people x❤️
Also, bisexual women in media are usually portayed as more bicurious than bisexual - as in they will only have relationships with guys and occasionally hook up with women. But then end up with a guy at the end of the movie/tv series
oMG SAME. Like I´m 29 and I just realised I liked girls too when I was like 25. When I realised that I was bi I was like OH SO THAT´S WHY I WAS SO OBSESSED WITH WANTING TO BE THAT GIRL´S FRIEND IN HIGHSCHOOL lmao.
@@TheMissPattz exactly!!! I was 22. so many times I thought: if I was a man I would date/marry her until I realized I don't have to be a man🤣 and looking back at your life you just see the hints and for how long you've been in denial.
like I obviously had a big crush on a girl and I knew it was a crush but I thought "all straight girls have a crush on a girl at least once right??👀"
The part with the "lesbians are so disgusting" scene is so interesting to me. It's awful, obviously. But I think it's really interesting that it's the girls displaying the most blatant, unapologetic homophobia, while Harry and the boys hide it under excuses and jokes. I think most people think that girls, especially young girls, are inherently less homophobic than boys are, or more accepting, and it was interesting to see Heartstopper showing that no, girls as a group and as individuals can absolutely be homophobic as well.
I'm not sure if that makes sense, but it does in my head. 😅 Just wanted to point it out because it was something I already thought whenever I watched this episode, and because you guys pointed it out.
Yeah it does make sense and it's certainly an interesting point we didn't think of! Totally agree x
Yeah, having been to an all girls school where a girl came out as bi, there was definitely homophobia. However, it was much less the "it's disgusting" shown here and more, "I don't feel comfortable in the change room with her any more" and "what if she has a crush on me" bullsh*t.
Girls and women often have a lot of internalised mysogyny, which may make their homophobia towards lesbians twice bad, possibly because in our patriarchic culture lesbians break gender norms in more ways that gay men do, and in such cultures women have been forced to become moral guardians of straight femininity & sexuality in order to protect their in-group status as a potential partner for a straight man. It's really messed up.
@@ktm9292 I feel like the last two are even worse because you get hurt by them saying you're disgusting but them outright saying that they're uncomfortable with you being around them it's really dishearten. They probably already knew them before or seen them around and had no problem changing or Ihad no problems with them, didn't see them any less of human being but just because they came out as lesbians they're seen a different light. It's quite sad but that's just how things are for some people with that mindset.
I’m 32 and I’m beginning to realise from this show, that I am bisexual. I’ve never labelled myself specifically, and I am in a “straight” relationship currently. I’ve always felt like an ally, but now I’m thinking I’m part of the community 🌈
Welcome to the community 😍 then and thanks for sharing x ❤️
Same
Same here, except I'm a bit older and it's probably too late for me to explore this side of me. I feel like a fool but somehow I never thought much of my recurring crushes on women until I saw this show and I realised I might actually be bisexual. I kind of wish this show had existed when I was young and still had time and opportunity to experiment. Oh well, it is what it is.
@@maxgarete5435 It's never too late.
@@maxgarete5435 Never too late! Embrace YOU! ❤
The “you’re so brave” comment reminds me of people who say to my brother (who has a disability) “oh you’re such an inspiration” simply for existing, when he’s just like trying to buy milk or something.
Or when people say to me (a single mum) “oh I don’t know how you do it” as if I have a choice in the matter and as if they can’t imagine my life being bright and fulfilling, it must be horrible and traumatic.
It’s the lack of a qualifier. She didn’t say “you’re brave for coming out with (what was effectively) a public announcement” she didn’t witness someone being homophobic and call Tara brave for how she dealt with it. She literally called her brave for being a lesbian, which is ridiculous, reads as if it’s a choice she made, and assumes her life must be so awful that simply existing as a lesbian is unimaginably horrible to her.
Yeah as someone with a disability when ever I do something I am told I am an inspiration even though my disability barely effects me (due to surgery and aids). I hate that I will come last and get more cheers and congratulations than the person who came first and achally did something amazing/inspirational
small note: darcy is definitely a loose cannon but she would never out nick. it’s not talked about in the show (at least not this season) but while darcy is out and proud at school, she’s not out to her family. like despite her lack of filter and boundaries, i think outing is definitely where she would draw the line.
Cracks me up when Nick says he’s crap at music when in real life Kit plays piano and guitar, and can sing really well.
I think Tao didn’t see Nick and Charlie holding hands because he’s such a lousy runner, he was so far behind all of them, and Elle blocked him from seeing them.
Can’t wait for the The next video, even more excited for when you watch the season finale!!!! ❤️❤️
We can't take anymore excitement though!!!!! ❤️
@@AStoryWorthTelling well, brace yourselves! ❤️❤️
@@AStoryWorthTelling You might want to have a nice cup of calming tea before episode 7.
I’m gay and I initially came out as bi - to soft launch as you say. Everyone just called me gay anyway - which in my case worked out fine but for an actual bi person it would have been infuriating.
I love that when the kids run down the hall they do it in the order of the LGBT acronym.
Omg! Never noticed that!!!! Amazing spot!❤️
@@AStoryWorthTelling In my eagerness to mention that little easter egg, I forgot to mention that this is my second favorite episode of the season. As I mentioned last time, things might not play out as perfectly in real life, but it's very important for queer teens (and parents) to see what happens when said teen are sorrounded by a support group. Charlie's patience with Nick, letting him come out on his own terms and Nick confiding in Tara and Darcy are great examples. Even when things turn dour for Tara after coming out, Darcy is there for her, even if it's just to lend an ear.
there are so many little details like that. The bi lightning on the party, in the arcade, the way Nick looks towards his closet in his room when starting to chat longer with Charlie, the little rainbows everywhere, prisms, real ones, umbrellas....
As far as Tao not reacting to Nick and Charlie holding hands in the hallway run…..Tao is too far back to be able to see Nick and Charlie and there are shadows in the hall.
including A (if you use it for Ally=Tao)
I love watching Alex become increasingly more admiring of this show. You started so skeptical that it would be good or that you would like it. Now we're to the 'it gets better and better." stage. I love it!
Charlie giving Nick space to figure out his identity is done very subtly and intelligently. He doesn't ever pressure Nick to label himself. Also love how Nick is supportive of Charlie's hobbies and wants to be the best boyfriend he can be.
Tara and Darcy reflect a later point of the same journey Nick and Charlie are on in terms of acknowledging who they are and their relationship with each other. It was great to see through their eyes the backlash queer women still get after coming out and provides a different perspective to viewers.
And finally, I have no idea how Tao lacks the basic skill of observance to notice Nick and Charlie holding hands in the corridor. Actually, scratch that. He still has no idea Elle likes him back. Love the kid but he seriously needs to get an effing clue!
he didn't notice the hand holding as he's too busy figuring out how to run!
@@TheBlazerboy79 Yeah he's not the most graceful kid bless him 😂
Watched Heartstopper so many times that I had to move on to reaction vids lol. SO glad I did because I found you two, and an entire archive of your content to watch! This was my favourite episode seeing Charlie be so accepting and genuinely happy for Nick, not threatened or confused by bisexuality, is a gift!!! hearts from Canada
We warmly welcome you to the channel ❤️
Gosh, same! Even the Canadian part! 💕✨
This is my favourite episode. My son came out so happily as bi a while ago, he knows we love and support him no matter what. He is very out and proud and thankfully shows like HS are so positive 😍. Love, love your observations, I laugh and gush and tear up in equal measure. Keep it up 🤗
Yay! Sending our fabulous congrats to your son! So glad this series could do that for him x❤️ thanks for sharing
Honestly as a bisexual how much I relate to Nick with his sexuality is unreal. I was honestly really confused at first, so his journey throughout the series really hits. Nick is the bi representation we all need! ❤❤
hell I'm pushing 40 and I'm still confused sometimes lol
The thing that annoys me so much is people thinking that being bisexual makes us prone to cheating. No, we are not like that. I like boys and girls that doesn't mean that my partner can't feel secure about our relationship. Thats just disrespectful you know. The representation of bisexuality in the series made me confident about mine, i just hope all the bisexual kids can know thats its confusing at time but they are so valid.
Thanks for sharing, very true points, stigmas around bisexuality, especially in media need to end x❤️
I comletely agree!!!! I watch a lot of British soap operas and I've seen 1 bi character across all of them that hasn't cheated. I get that it has to be dramatic but they've had a lot of bi characters. There was one case where a guy was officially labeled as bi, promised multiple times that he wouldn't cheat on his husband (they might have only been dating at the time but not the point) and then he went and got a woman pregnant. This happened in the show while I was just coming to terms with my own bi-ness. It hurt a lot.
@@katsimpsforleviathan thats just sad. i hope for a good future representation.
@@katsimpsforleviathan Ah yes, Emmerdale and Robert Sugden. I was so angry at that storyline. Did the same with the female bisexual character, Charity. Had her cheat on her fiance and its like, why??
@@thelibertini3757 yep! Charity has a whole history of cheating on men with women and on women with men. She cheated on Chris Tate with his sister. Bernice's ex fiance (I don't remember his name) cheated on her with anyone who would have him. It's just so frustrating that we can list so many times when they've deliberately played on disgusting stereotypes
It's so sweet when Nick comes out to Tara and Darcy. He puts his trust in his burgeoning friendship with the girls. The look on his face as he tells them is so sweet. He's becoming more comfortable with his relationship with Charlie that he's able to express it so well.
The LGBT kids finding each other definitely mirrors my teenage years. Building up your little community to go through it all together. I love to see it
i really appreciated your conversation on bi visibility. when i came out i received responses from both straight and gay friends and family that it was "ok for me to just say i'm gay because bisexuality doesn't really exist." they were trying to let me know that i didn't need to soft-launch with them, like you mentioned. no one was overly negative, but they weren't supportive either. i was also asked if that means i sleep with other people besides my partner. (to be clear: nothing wrong with this, but it's not a great first response or anyone's business unless i decide it is!) it's no surprise when hyper-sexuality or cheating often goes hand-in-hand with the majority of bi representation (particularly women) on screen.
largely being bi has meant that i feel like most people doubt my reality and my honesty. they seem to either think i'm lying to myself or them and that hurts. seeing more people like nick in tv and movies is great (and seeing the universal bi pirates of the caribbean panic is hilarious.) thanks for taking the time to talk about it!
as a cis bi woman who is pushing 40, this show has given me so many mixed feelings. on the one hand, I am so excited that this new generation gets to have a show like this to teach them how to have healthy communication in their relationships, and how to navigate the coming out experience during those tough times of adolescence. on the other hand, I have a tad bit of jealousy that I did not have this when I was a teen. it makes me so emotional!
I didn't realize I was bi until I was in college and I wish I would have known then what I know now. the bisexual struggle of not being sure whether you're really attracted to someone or whether you just admire them as a friend and want to spend time with them never really goes away. it does get easier, but it honestly wasn't until my early-mid 20s that I was comfortable in my bisexuality and even then, I was still finding my way.
anyway, I'm so grateful this show exists now because it's my happy place (I've already watched it 4 times now) and I hope other bi kids can find their way through Nick Nelson's journey on the show. 💖💜💙 thanks for another wonderful reaction ❤️
Darcy saying ‘we’ve found another one’ like she’s collecting the gays and lgbtq+ as children 🥺♥️
I hardly ever enjoy reaction videos, but I smile almost as much watching you guys as a do when I watch Heartstopper!!! Nick’s struggle with his sexuality is so relatable to me because when I came out at 24, I simply told everyone that I was dating a woman because I wasn’t sure how to define my sexuality yet. At least at that time (14 years ago), people were rarely satisfied without a label. I love how Heartstopper only uses labels to empower, and never because anyone else demands it.
16:04 I love how Nick flips him over so he’s on top of Charlie. *Charlie, lovingly tackles nick*
Nicks Brain: hold on a minute I’m the top in this relationship
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Can't explain how much i love this show,especially since it helped me accept myself and come out to my mom❤and I love yalls reaction,making it fun and I love your reviews and opinions ❤
Thanks for sharing ❤️ we love this show too and so glad it can help people in these ways xxx
We are being blessed by these two so often out here! Love y'all!
Just spreading the love ❤️ x
In regards to boxing people in with language, I can relate to that on a heavy scale. My family used to do that with me before I came out as bi, always saying things along the lines of “ohh, are you into that boy?” Regarding most of my male friends. However, I’ll never forget the one time after I came out, I was on the phone with my grandma, and my mom asked who I was calling. My grandma heard this and said, “tell her it’s your girlfriend”. I was so happy after that, knowing that I had her full support.
Thank you for sharing this; right now I'm giving your grandma a virtual bear-hug!
Seeing your uploads is as much a highlight of my week as my daily Heartstopper fix! Thanks!
We need to take a moment to appreciate especially Tara and Darcy's response to Nick. Charlie also has great responses to Nick questioning his sexuality and considering that he is bisexual, but I'm loving these conversations.
"I don't even know what my sexuality is"
-"that's okay...'
-"don't feel like you have to come out to anyone before you're ready"
"I'm not really out yet"
-"do you want to be?"
"you're the first people I've told, about Charlie"
-"does it feel good to have told someone?"
Ugh, 2 episodes left, and can't wait to see your reactions to both!
This was my favorite episode because I loved Nick getting advice/help from Tara. A lesbian already out couple helping out a still secret gay couple, it was sweet.
Girl i was not ready for the upload today LOL i literally screamed because it's only been 3 days since the last one im so excited
Haha we were screaming when we managed to get it out too lol thanks for the support x❤️
13:32
"Why don't *we* go on double---"
"Because you don't have a boyfriend"
*FATALITY*
I know! I feel very attacked! 😍😵
Coming out to LGBT friends first is a thing that definitely helps
Yes, it really does. I came out after my LGBT friend did to me.
As a Bi person, I just feel so hurt when people say that I'm "half" straight or "half" lesbian, is like they're saying that I'm a half a person or something... and sadly most of those times I have heard it from other LGBTQIA+ people (none of them were my friends, thankGOD) but that type of commentary just doesn't help me or anyone really, and it definitely haunts my mind in those times of self dought that we all humans experience from time to time...
I enjoyed all the episodes. I do love how Nick is growing and the start of his coming out process. From telling Tara to just throwing it out there with Elle. There was that initial hesitancy and then looking for the opportunity to just drop it in. 'We thought it would be fun to go on a triple date. You and Tao, Tara and Darcy....'. Even Tao would have seen that coming from triple date, and he seems pretty oblivious to the fact that the guy that Charlie has a crush on has been hanging with the group non-stop for months and yes, holding hands.
I know! He's becoming part of the LGBT family! (Plus Tao)🤣❤️
Honestly, finding the understanding lesbian friend who had it more sorted then me was a critical part of my confused gay teen experience and I HIGHLY recommend it.
Is it my birthday? You guys uploaded 3 days after the previous heartstopper reaction. Your reactions are one of the things I look for every week. Love you guys from the Philippines xx
Hahaha it might be! But we will always a to bring more content for you ❤️ thanks for your support x
I enjoy watching your friendship -especially the nonverbal conversations that you have with each other!😅
Fun fact for the pirates of the Caribbean film they had to ask the actors in the film if they were ok in using the clip in the episode before it could be used
We did wonder this!🤣
"When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy."
from 'The Prophet' in 1923, and perfectly describing my Heartstopper experience 100 yrs later
Filmed in Slough and Windsor as you were wondering ♥️
I am loving your reactions 🥰
Then we must visit!
@@AStoryWorthTelling OMG yes and film a travelogue for us!!!
Nick rolls Charlie over: "I'm the top here."
OMG YEAH!!! I thought I had to wait another 4 days for your next reaction on Heartstopper 😍😍😍
Fun facts with Eline, the bi UA-camr Nick is looking up is an irl bi UA-camr called Courtney Jai.
Courtney is reacting to the show, and did a recent video about how he was chosen to do his scenes.
@@corvus1374 I know I follow him that is why I mentioned it.
9:46 I agree and I did the same thing, I told my family I was Bi so it would be easier to accept me. And then I came out as Gay later on, when I was comfortable with myself and my sexuality.
You both bring so much joy. Love the reaction video and thank you for noticing Nick and Charlie holding hands and Tao being oblivious. My friends had no reaction to that scene. Can’t wait for the next one.
omg i was just rewatching your last reactions this morning counting the days to next week. this is my favorite episode!!!!!
Yay!!! So glad you enjoy, and we're so happy this series is doing wonders! X❤️ thanks for the support
I think this episode was about nick and the girls despite the episode title, I think I was about nick reilising that he likes girls too, not just boys and then the progress with the two girls and Elle. All in all, good episode.
14:55 I think you hit the nail on the head here. I do hear the feedback that sometimes LGBTQ representation isn’t “realistic” but I think there is room for both, the realistic and the idealistic. There can be a lot of complicated feelings and experiences that at any age can be difficult to put into words, I think having a show like this to watch especially with family/friends who may not have the same can better understand.
Just wanted to share something : when they're running at 23:17 tara and darcy (Lesbian) are fisrt, then charlie (Gay) and Nick (Bisexual) and then Elle (Transgender) which make LGBT . Don't know if it's just a coincidence or if it was think like that but i find that amazing!
Even if Tao did see Charlie and Nick holding hands - he wouldn't equate ot to a romantic relationship. He and Elle hold hands, link arms and tell each other they love each other in a platonic way. I think the show shows being affectionate with your friends of whatever gender being a good thing and not inherently romantic (or "acting gay", which is often thrown at boys who show a softer side to each other).
As somewhere who, even now at 28, still struggles to label their sexuality, I loved this series. Growing up through Catholic school, when I started to realise I liked boys, I first had internalised homophobia, then realised I like both boys and girls, and the more I heard from LGBTQ+ people, the more I thought I must just be kidding myself liking girls, and that I must really be gay. Even now, I’m closeted at work but out to friends - but out as ‘I don’t really know what I am…’ I hope this series can help younger people realise that, as long as you’re happy, love is love whatever the label. Thanks for your reaction, you both seem great!
"...Peeping Tom looking out the window could have seen that."
"Well great for Tom."
.... for the love of all that's holy, I couldn't breathe I laughed so hard!
Finding all your videos so amazingly interesting! What a fabulous way to discuss lgbtq2IA+ issues! Truly guys, hats off! ❤
episode 6 is definitley one of my favourites, but episode 5 is certainly my top episode. i just love the birthday party, and nicks scene with imogen, and tao and charlies scene. episode 6 is right up there though, with the milkshake dates, elle finding out, tao being the last to know, the taradarcy talk, the bisexuality "vlogs". episode 2 and 8 are also up there as my top favourites. come prepared for episode 7, it's an emotional rollercoaster. and to think, everything that's happened so far in the netflix series happened in just 2 and a half (out of 8) chapters in the comics.
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We aim to please! Thank you for your support x❤️
This made me laugh in the dead of night XD I never thought of the milkshake scene that way 🤣🤣
Love your POVs on Tara and Darcy's situation; can't wait for the next reaction!
Thank you for your supportive, happy to bring the laughs 🤣❤️ but seriously... bubblegum lol
3:41 I'm Gen X and I've really worked hard to reduce my cis-heteronormative speech. I'm trying to use more gender neutral terms in general. I have a Gen Z child and I think he's cishet, but I'm still trying to not box him into that, in case he discovers he's pan or bi or gay or ace. He has said he's pretty sure he's cis.
Hello from Maine, Great reviews fun, heart felt, good discussion and thanks for sharing. After I watched this series I realized it helped me look at some repressed emotions as a closeted gay athlete in HS who had the crushes on best friends a few times. I ended up tracking down my HS Ski Coach. I lettered in xcountry skiing four years and was Captain of the team my senior year. We had a great phone conversation where I came out to him and thanked him for all the consistent support as a coach. I thanked him for the opportunity to be Captain and told him that it was a start that helped me in leadership roles in my life. He said, 'Geoff wait right there, that was not a role that I assigned to you but one that your team mates chose for you.'. Needless to say, I did not know that and was blown away. We had a great talk and he is still my coach in so many ways. Best to you boys across the pond! Keep up the great reviews! You are affirming much!
In an interview, Joe Locke said that they filmed in Slough, although they probably used more than one locale.. (hope that answers your question)
It's certainly does, now we need to go check it out, especially as it's not far haha x
When I was like 10 my dad was talking to me about relationships, and he said "when you eventually bring home your boy or girlfriend" which I feel like made my life so much easier than it would have been if he didn't say those words to me... And I'm so glad I got to hear that back then, but at the time, I was just a kid so I remember my brain going "why would I ever have a girlfriend? O_O" because I didn't know what homosexuality was, I had never even heard about gays xD
That being said, I was still scared to come out to dad once I realized that I am indeed a teensy bit gay, so I just blurted it out to him when I was drunk. He was in a different room and I just shouted that I like women from the couch xD He just laughed and said "I know" :')
#DadGoals!
AN EXTRA VIDEO THIS WEEK?! ILY
Hahaha what can we say🤷♂️❤️
About the asking for kisses: one thing that really caught my attention in the series is how greatly they model consent. It might not seem the most natural at first, but i like how they model options for young people to communicate that.
I can not wait to see your reaction to the next episode …. Can not wait! 😄 so good!
Ahh, proud of you! There were a lot of relatable moment in this one, beautifully commented on by you both as per. ❤️💗💜
🙌🙌🙌🙌yaaaay this is my favorite episode. The scene where Nick tells Charlie that he's told someone, the jubilation on Charlie's face is just the best
Charlie respects Nick's journey by letting Nick tell people their dating . . . which is unfortunate for Tao
I am a man who has always identified as gay, ever since I understood what the word meant. I lived in San Francisco for 15 years and I swear I could count the number of self-declared bisexual men I knew on one hand. Most of my gay friends did not believe that bisexuality really existed. Then I moved to Sacramento, a much more conservative city, In various conversations men I'd had sex with, I was asked if I was not attracted to women, even a little bit. I found it a very strange question, but after being asked it many times, at some point, it hit me, bisexuality realty does exist.
Josh's reaction to the orchestra rehearsal immediately brought me back Marcus karaoke scene from Young Royals 😂😂😂❤
It was very confusing especially as a girl to figure out I was bi because girls already are so intimate just with friends that it took a long time for me to separate my interest in girls from normal girl interactions. Especially because I didn’t even know about bisexuality until I left my small town and met my best guy friend in college who was bi and answered all of my questions
Loved this Show! Wish I'd had something like it when I was figuring it all out. It's just nice to see a happy LGBTQ+ story for a change. Love you two as well, keep up the good work.♥♥
Thanks for the support, totally agree, would have been nice back then (many years ago lol) but glad it's here now
I really loved the bisexuality representation and how well accepted it was within the friend group and specially by Charlie. Growing up bisexual for me was really difficult. Biphobia still is a reality within the lgbtq+ community, but this show has been helping me to accept myself as bisexual. So yeah! 🥰 loved your reactions again!! Heading for the next one!
It’s hard to have a favourite episode when there’s a ‘favourite moment’ in every one, we just end up rewatching the series.
Your take on how this series is great at showing people communicating is something we never thought about 🤔 probably due to growing up in a time and in a place where it isn’t easy to come out.
Too many great moments. It's too much for us 😉❤️
We're really loving your reactions to this show. Since finding you guys through Heartstopper we've also watched many of your other videos. Love your perspective and you're both so adorable and entertaining!
Thank you so much for such kind words! We're glad you and enjoying, more to come! ❤️😍👍
I’ve been enjoying all of your reactions and smiling at them and laughing more with each one! What got me with this one is you are the first reactors I’ve seen (tbf that’s out of 6) to point out that Tao is behind Nick and Charlie when they run down the hall holding hands and that nothing comes of it. Must have been because Tao was too overwhelmed by running 😂 but I still love that I’m not the only one to get caught on that lmao
Love your reaction & insights on this episode. Thanks.
Thanks, we love all your support and love for this series and our channel x❤️
I know it was brought up in the vid, but the show is filmed in Herne Bay, in Kent, just north of Canterbury, and the school scenes were filmed in the school there.
My first brush with biphobia came from a girlfriend, actually. We were probably three months in and she dropped on me that she had to really think about dating me because I was bi (I'm pan actually, but that wasn't really a big thing then). I'd had reservations of my own but it was because she was 11 years younger than me, so I'd have understood more I think if she'd had other reasons for her concern.
It hit me hard - that somehow my orientation would cause any kind of question about what kind of person I was from someone in my own community, no less - that someone I was on my way to loving thought for even a moment I might not be worth her time simply because I'd loved men in the past in the same way I was interested in her. I think there's this perception that the people in your own community will support you unreservedly - and that's not always the case, which just adds another layer to wade through.
I never really came out to family, because back then and where I'm from you just didn't - you just did your best to escape your small town so you could have hope to live more freely. But like you mentioned, it's more acceptable that I'm a woman who mostly prefers women than it would be for a man who loved other men - even occasionally. That would add so much confusion to coming out when there's so little rep in media for bi and pan men.
Even now, when my lovers are a man and his wife, that's okay because it's titillating to enough straight people to be "okay". Had it been a man and his husband, I suspect it would be a very different situation. I'm just glad that Heartstopper is doing such a good job with all kinds of representation and making it seem exactly like what it is - a commonplace part of life we all deal with in one way or another. We need more in the world for sure.
Oh, and I love your reviews! Especially since you don't always see a scene the same way. It's nice to see the differences our own perceptions can make.
What a thrill ! a Saturday with your reaction! I am eagerly awaiting the other chapters! Excuse my English, I use the google translator, my English is very bad, even though I understand little, I don't know why I feel that I do understand you, I even laugh a lot with what you say! They definitely transmit something that surpasses any language, they do something universal! Thank you for making me happy with your videos!
Always happy to bring joy ❤️ x
You guys crack me up, all the time. Thank you for this amazing content.
Why can I imagine Josh giving Darcy a stern lecture?? 🤣
Josh [shaking his head]: Darcy, you’re just so 🦆ing chaotic -
Darcy: 🦆 you!! It’s not chaos, it’s creativity!!
And I’m gonna wear all my hoodies ANYWHERE I want to!!
The Riverside scene is on the south bank of the thames.in Windsor, looking across to the Eton side of the river. Cinema/shopping.mall scenes next week are in festival place in Basingstoke.
Did you notice on Charlie’s bedside table/ locker the picture of Nick, Charlie and Nellie’s snow day? ☺️😍🐶
Cute!! Did not notice x
All that Bi lighting in the Kiss episode, Bi lighting at the bowling alley, Even Charlie's sweater when Nick tells him about the double date is blue,pink, grey. It's all coming together for Nick.
I love you guys!! I'm part of the bi community and I love this show, they're all so cute but so mature at the same time wtf
as a swiftie 2:33 made me cringe for a moment but now I'm alright lol
Yeah, my two favorite gay reactors. Keep up the great work, you gorgeous boys 😘
Happy Pride month - a Friend from Denmark.
Happy pride month back! Thanks for the support ❤️😉
😭by far the best reactions channel I've seen you guys are halirious
Well we are here every week... this week twice🤣❤️
ugh i can't wait to see your reaction when tao finds out about nick and charlie
Omg.... Josh my have a heart attack🤣❤️
16:15 - "No notes!" had me doing a spit take over my desktop. HA! (Any suggestions on how to clean a Lemon Drop martini from a Mac keyboard?) Love you guys and your "Heartstopper" reactions especially. Already subscribed. Now "Notified," too.(Patreon just has to be next, right?)
What the show also did really well was showing us how most people watching this labelled Nick as gay, just because he was with a boy. And I think that also happens a lot in reality. If someone is with someone of the same sex, they are viewed as gay and if not, they are viewed as heterosexual. In both cases someone could be bi or pan or something else
"People do tend to reveal more about themselves when you reveal more about yourself." Thats a great quote.👏
I think it’s so funny they had to get permission from Orlando Bloom and Kiera Knightly to show them on screen
I love that the youtuber in the show is a real bisexual youtuber in real life! :) he did an amazing job!
And I agree that the representation of bi in film or something is a girl that is mostly sexual with another girl or it's the boy that didn't figure it out just yet. I love that they don't go for that here! :)
Fastly becoming some of my favorite content on all of UA-cam! ❤️
Wow! Thank you😍 glad you're enjoying x
We didnt have to wait a week WOOOOO
I was told there would be application forms for courting Alex here in the comments? 🤣🏳️🌈❤️
Well it was bounds to happen, application forms coming soon ! ❤️😉🤣