Meth addiction actually destroyed my life. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder, got diagnosed with OCD. Spent my whole life fighting OCD. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
I was addicted to this kind of meth for about 3 years, worst time of my life. I was terrified all the time, would see things at night and had no trust in anyone. It's horrifying.
Glad you are off it man. It's a nightmare... I was shooting heroin and meth mixed together for about 2 years and had been shooting heroin for 2 years prior to that, smoked both for years as well. 4 years clean in two weeks :) Stay strong, White Knuckling sobriety is a real bitch.
Josh L, it sure doesn't sound like fun. I understand the addiction of opiates, but what was the draw to this kind of meth for you? Was it just to take you out of the current reality, or is it actually addictive physically?
I was hooked on this kinda meth. Had a job at the same time. One time I called out because I had been up for 4 days. I felt guilty about calling out the entire time. Eventually, I hallucinated every single one of my coworkers coming into my apartment and just staring at me. I tried to clean up my stuff but they were all just staring at me, judging me. I had trash everywhere, it was a mess. I felt so horrible about it. Eventually I passed out. I woke up and they were all gone. It was about 3 in the morning. I immediately smoked a bowl of crystal. It was the most terrifying thing I’ve experienced in my life, but it wasn’t enough to get me off the drug.
The last time I was given meth, it felt different. I wanted to do work but couldn’t. It sucked. Flushed the whole bag down the toilet and will never do any kind of meth again. It was a blessing in disguise.
Same here. It was too powerful. I flushed quite a bit. Scared the shot outta me. It was like I was STUCK. I wanted to do shit but couldn't, and you can get soooo much for little of nothing.
It ain't the way it used to be good. Thank god I wont do it anymore either. I dont want phetnanol in my dope that's the stuff making you sick after a few hits instead of vacuuming the floor or talking no stop you are getting sick of it
Don't forget the wave of parrots that don't know any better, and will repeat the ignorance as fact. "I've never lived it, but let me tell you all about it"..
The people he talks about represent less than 5% of the using population. And, the P2P he is talking about was restricted and outlawed way before now. It is curious how, decades later, this pops up again. So, he is claiming that there is no ephedrine used, even with P2P? Seriously? And that it makes you homeless? Who the hell is this guy? My girlfriend and I belong to the drug alliance , and besides this guy just lying for whatever reason. The Nixon admin, and his cabinet members(who did 30 years in prison)Erlichman said, " We made it all up. Of course we knew it was not true. We could not outright arrest blacks and antiwar protesters, we had to associate crack with hippies and heroin with black, then criminalize the hell out of it". And it won his election. The war on drugs is b-s. Thge people they talk about is less than 5% of the using population, and the most extreme. Nothing they do helps it, only exaserbates it. For instance, here in AZ, our taxes have paid for affordable housing to be built for the homeless for two decades now, but last year, the money went to the police to enforce urban camping and trespass laws and arrest them. This year, our idea of helping the homeless, is in 116 degree weather, remove the benches and the shades from all bus stops. Brilliant, right? People should look into how the homeless were treated leading up to, and in the beginning of ww2. There are startling similarities that should not be ignored. It shows an almost exact parallel between actions taken then, and what we are doing now. The answer to any of this , from the governments view, seems to be if they do not see it, then it is not a problem. That is what happened back then too, and the said it became cheaper asnd easier to just get rid of them permanently. When I see videos and people like this, and nothing they say means anything, but does create a sub-human population worthy of whatever happens to them, it just paves the way for them to commit atrocities against people, and no one will feel guilty. Please be aware of what is happening around you. If you see the police or anyone else violating the rights or abusing the homeless, you need to stick up for them, because if you do not, eventually, people will remember that, and who will then stick up for you? We can judge a country, and it's leaders by how they treat those who have the least there. How would you say the US ranks in that today?
Get asphalt methamphetamine off the streets. End the drug war. Legalize, tax and regulate amphetamine salts / Adderall and you've essentially made meth obsolete. Simple.
These juggernaut heads , old-school people , that pound the bible , would you ever think for one second they would allow something as stigmatized and looked down on , become legalized ? Ha . Meth is like the black sheep of the substance family , you could be high as hell on cocaine and people would laugh and smile thinking it's funny. But say the M word and everyone's calling the cops on you , yet it's the Ferrari of stimulant drugs and from a technical standpoint the best one out there due to chemical release percentage. Also people unlike alcohol , kill others while driving . .for most part. That will never happen. Not in a million years. The cops are making too much money off the drug war , so is so many more aspects of the legal system. Legalize it and DEA and many other agencies would pretty much be worthless without a job. They're never having that
Get fentanyl off street too. The bs needs to stop..heroin is hard AF to find today and cartel is making fentanyl. Curious if they will decide to bring tar heroin back and triple prices. They probably would and could get the triple price. Fuxx fentanyl.
NASA prefers Meth as it's their go to stimulant when long periods of alertness are required. Let adults have access to pharmaceutical meth if they want.
Emma is right about meth setting up the opioid epidemic too. I was a meth user for a few years and never had any intention of doing heroin or fentanyl until I ended up finding out it’s the only thing that put me to sleep when I was done with being high on meth. Haven’t used meth in almost a year but I still struggle with using opioids, only been off of them for a little over a month. Getting off opioids has been way harder for me to do than getting off meth was. It’s ridiculous
Be strong. Be proud everyday sober is a day you get to live... Sappy shit and I'm not gonna say I have much experience but I just want people to live to the fullest since life so short
Suboxone is a very good alternative. I've been on it for around 10 years. It took forever for me to get healthcare, but once they expanded medicaid around 2011 in my state, it changed my life. At my worst I was taking daily trips to my city to get very potent heroin and I overdosed 3 times… But once I got the healthcare, I stopped living like a criminal, and now I just go to the doctor, and they manage my dose, drug test me. Now, Suboxone very hard to get off of, I've been using it for almost a decade on and off, but if you don't have any other choice and your opioid use becomes life-threatening, it's a very good option.
@@RegularRegs good for you, seriously. And most important, suboxone allows most to achieve a 'normal' life. Glad you were finally able to get it, it's still a challenge for many in many states due to bureaucratic obstacles like added training for doctors and DEA waivers required just to prescribe it, and then there's a limit to how many people they can prescribe it to. And yet, they can prescribe fentanyl at any amount, at their discretion. It's a major issue that needs fixing, by congress.
My brother passed away from a fentanyl and meth overdose on December 21, 2022. He experienced serve paranoia, delusions, and acted schizophrenic. He did have an underlining mental health issue and we just never knew it was drugs. I found out last night when they listed his cause of death through the medical examiner's office. I saw this video and realized he was addicted to meth. He probably didn't know it had fentanyl in it. May he rest in eternal peace with no more worries. My family and I miss him so very much. It just breaks my heart. I read some comments on another video and people think so low of people with addiction-may god bless their hearts anyway. Sobriety is the key to living in this world for those who suffer from addiction. I will pray for you all because spreading love is so much more powerful than spreading hate.
My personal experience with meth between '77 and '97 was not always "social." In fact what he described with this new meth is what I eventually experienced on the ephedra meth of the 90's. I had several psychotic episodes, and I'm very lucky to be alive today.
How could you know exactly what precursors were used in the illicit drugs you bought off the street and used between 1977-& 1997? Unless you were the cook-or a chemist? P2P was used throughout the last 60 years….
@BushyHairedStranger I'd imagine he's basing that assessment on what the video (FAR from what I'd call a "solid source") is telling us, and mathematically and historically speaking, there was a far better chance of the meth back then being ephedra, or at least pseudo based. These people are reading things, I highly doubt there is any first hand experience. You're also making the assumption it was "bought on the street". Maybe he knew a guy, or his cousin Eddie Ephedra made it. I'd be inclined to think that regardless of precursor, people have had some pretty shtty experiences on meth; there are no absolutes.
To back my post, my step brother in law was a Texas State Trooper. In state police training, they learned to make meth 3 different ways so they could identify labs and chemicals. Also, unfortunately, my uncle, who is in prison as a repeat offender, was a meth cook. I am not proud of this, but he and some other sources confirmed the toxic left in the batch when cooks did not wash the product. Just please don't mess with that drug or any other drug if you can avoid it..
Meth and opiates destroyed the area where I live. I've battled with opiate addiction for a long time, but a lot of the people I grew up with are struggling with one or the other, or both in a lot of cases. And the people I grew up with are not the lower class poor, but more middle to upper class. You could always tell when that switch came he was talking about, a close friend of mine who had a problem with both would suddenly want everyone including his family to get out of his home because he was blown out on meth so bad that having everyone there made it too hard for him to tell which person was robbing him and what it was that was missing. No one ever actually took anything from him, you'd always find out a day or two later he had just misplaced it. It was really sad to watch him slowly hate people he cared about. These things are no joke
@@alangivre2474 thank you for that. Im actually sober and have been for a year or two. I had a beautiful niece born that kind of flipped everything for me and changed my life. I just really like to speak out about it because of how hard the life is and how bad the stigma is
@@mickswagger6086 what kind of dumb comment is that to make? It's worse than dumb, it's cruel. How dare you talk about vaccines being the same kind of problem meth and opiates are to a recovered opiate addict. Who does that? It took every ounce of strength in me and every other addict to get off that stuff and we have to deal with it our entire lives. No one is having withdrawal and addiction issues from vaccines. They literally cause no harm in anyone. My God I don't think I've ever been more angry at someone for a comment than I am that one. That's so disrespectful to people fighting addiction all over the world.
I was addicted to heroin in the 90's. I'm 21 years clean. I think if fentanyl was really prevalent while I was using I wouldn't have gotten clean. I probably would be dead. I almost died many times from regular China white. I know people who struggle today. I do everything I can to help addicts who are trying to get help. There are more resources then when I needed help, but it's still not enough. My city lost a treatment center due to a fire, yet to be replaced. Many outpatient programs (through the court mainly) are an abject failure! It's an in and out cycle of the same people going to court to outpatient and back again. For residential treatment you have to want to so bad you have to beg, but unfortunately people have to wait. The waiting almost never leads to people going because they need to not get sick and be in the worst pain. Pain that most people can't even imagine! The other danger is when people go through withdrawal and leave treatment. There tolerance is down, but end up doing the same amount as before. It can lead to O.D. a death. I keep Narcan in my car and at home. Unfortunately, other drugs are not safe from containing Fentanyl. Countfit pills, cocaine, MDMA etc. Not even a causal drug user is safe from using Fentanyl.
@@silkcitysocialist420 it feels really good when I can read a response like yours and feel a measure of comfort that someone understands the kind of pain and sickness and anxiety going through that is. I really struggled the first time I tried getting clean because at every step you almost had to bow down and be in shame to everyone that was there to help you, and I wasnt ready to do what it really takes to get clean, so it didn't last cause I wasn't willing to put up with the people you have to deal with. I can't imagine what it was like to go through it back at that point in time. I don't think I could have done it without medication on the withdrawals and I really needed the therapy and counseling. I had almost died more times than I can count. I was lucky that I got out of it before I got in any kind of trouble for the heroine. To be honest, it was a stroke of luck on several things that happened at the same time that saved my life. My sisters daughter was born and I am very very close with my family, and even tho they never wavered on loving me, they couldn't let me have any relationship with my niece if I kept going that way. By a miracle, while my sister was pregnant, a treatment center opened within 30 min of my hometown, so I went home, got treatment, am still in longterm treatment, and got clean. It's been a few years now. When I tried before I never really believed I would keep up with it. But this time I haven't had the urge to wanna go back. Something just clicked. But I still see a therapist regularly and I still get treatment at my clinic. I'm a chronic pain patient and I don't want my pain to be a factor in going back to the life, so I just keep up with everything like I did when I had just started. Honestly, I think it's a miracle that this many of us are still alive. And thats crazy I think. It's so easy to die from it and the death toll is so high. But it could be worse, and this country needs to keep doing more to help with the stigma and how addicts are treated. It shouldn't be so shameful to get help to the people around us. I'm very lucky that my family is super close and stuck by me, but that's the exception, not the rule. I just wish they could find better and more convenient ways of helping people. And the help didn't come from staff that act like their job is to catch you up doing something wrong rather than to actually help you. Unless you want to be clean so bad it hurts, it's almost impossible to actually achieve it. And I've never met anyone who can do it on their own.
I'm not too proud to admit I went on a meth bender for 18 months back in 2006. I was lucky, I was able to just walk away from it before it destroyed me. Others aren't so lucky.
Congrats on getting clean from meth! It ravaged the mind, body and soul of someone whom I once considered a close friend and 11 years later, at age 42, is currently awaiting sentencing on 3 felony charges and several misdemeanor ones due to his meth addiction. And this has been a repeated cycle over 11 years. Devastating drug.
@@feralLove - Yes. I guess what saved me was the fact I'd drifted from my main group of friends and family into the wrong crowd. When I realised what it was doing to me, I just walked away and was taken back by my family.
Not to criticize, but 18 months is a lot more than a bender, lol. Glad you were able to walk away from that, though. I'd be fucked if I did anything other than weed for that long, I think. Probably a lot of people would be.
I find it disheartening that this was relayed uncritically. the only significant difference between an ephedrine/pseudoephedrine synthesis and a phenyl-2-propanone synthesis would be isomeric composition, which, isn't exactly trivial pharmacologically, but to say that a racemic mixture of methamphetamine is significantly more harmful than dextro-methamphetamine, to me conveys that this guy doesn't fully grasp what it is that he's saying. and, to me, that is dangerous when you're dealing with a subject like substance abuse, especially as it relates to journalism.
Generally, chemically, yes you're right. The problem, though, is you're wrong. It IS effectively different, it DOES matter that much. He is spot on regarding the method/effects changing. It's exactly true, how the effects are different and it has gone from gay party drug to schizophrenic tent homeless drug. I can't explain the process doing that, maybe there's another element that changed and is not being considered. But both issues he describes are absolutely true and accurate: chemically, socially, and chronilogically.
NO CLUE!! At all and I agree you can totally tell he's way off on what he's talking about and he's not even close to being spot on. He's just wingin' it on alot of the stuff he says, not a bad guy and I'm not saying I'm better or smarter than him but . . . Also I do have a little knowledge and experience in the making and using of meth past and present, not bragging or proud about it but it is what it is!
@@timstreeter5368 facts. Most of us don't consider what is an even more powerful influence on our minds, bodies, and spirit : Environment. Our cultures and lifestyles around the world continue to change rapidly. So to is the attitudes and conditions around drug use. Compare 1975 with 2020 concerning Marijuana. Case and point. The only thing that does freak me out like crazy is fentanyl mixing in with literally anything and THAT is destroying people so fast, it makes my ears ring. If I had any advice for anyone as an observer and not a user, Don't take any street opiates. Period. Or just stay away from opiates no matter what. That stuff - I don't know how buuuut - will open of the gates of hell (metaphor only, please don't think literal) inside the spirit and body.
Used to be a meth addict. Got hooked on opiates at the same time because the come down was rough without them. Ruined my life. If you’re out there struggling, just know there are people you can reach out to. You can get better.
I decided to stop too Last weekend was my last time smoking Before this last time i smoked like 34 or 5 times in all the entire year. Im done. I dont lile this mix of fentanyl and meth and im not going to play russian roulette
Yep. Same here got away/off of it 23ish years ago. So fortunate to have gotten out as many "friends" didn't. Well, they did, but not just not in this world.
They come down off of meth isn't even that bad You sleep for a few days and you eat a lot are you kidding me Don't use that interest is an excuse because you use opiates now
I don't understand this narrative about the new meth being evil. I'm on it right now and yeah I been more evil lately but. I'm not exactly crazy. Though I've definitely seen people get crazy. Delusional parasitosis for example. When my friend thinks she has these things growing in her skin. She gets real stressed and scared and starts seeing it on me or on other people or in the walls. But I think that's from smoking too much and not sleeping. She'll slam that shit too and been doing so for well over a year now so I think that's part of it. For a while she'd do it like every day.
Even scarier when you ain't doing shit that would help and not drive some away. 😢it's sad the input normal people have in real life, their played out to look good when they are making shit worst.
This year I used it daily for 7 months straight and quit with almost no withdrawal. Yet I can’t go a couple hours without a cigarette or hit of by dab pen
I never smoke cigarrettes but meth Laat weekend was my last time trying it I prefer just drink or stop the comunication with my friend. I said him this is not good
I ain't never withdraw from meth either so far as I can tell. But I'm the same with cigarettes I can go without them too. Addiction is kinda a mystery. Some people try a drug once and get addicted. Some people can binge a drug for months then quit with no issues.
Psilocybin saved my life . I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September . I have zero cravings . This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment .
I have researched and found out that shrooms are very helpful , it has really helps to reduce anxiety and depression . I would love to try magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some , Is there any realiable source I can purchase one
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
I was an opiate/heroin addict for over a decade. Tried the whole time to kick the habit. Sometimes id go 2 months and still feel like garbage when id finally give in, just for some relief. Started using meth and was totally off opiates withing a year. Havent touch even a percocet in abt 3-4 years. Id take th meth addiction over opiate w/o hesitation. Trying to get off meth now. Gf got off opiates th same way, but she stopped doin meth and is clean abt 2 years now
I appreciate this interview so much. I've been saying this for years. I live in a border town, I have seen lots of friends and family members lose their minds off that meth trash. I'm losing my husband to this drug too.😢
I cook meth in my home amphetamine laboratory and methamphetamine is interesting and fun, but I lack a graceful girl with me during cooking because it takes some time
This guy dont know nothing about meth. Meth doesnt cause hallucination and all the other stereotypical side effects such as rotting teeth and face. Its how the drug affects the user and how they take care of themselves. If people would rest every night and eat, drink and take care of their hygiene properly every night then they would not experience those side effects. But thats not the case... most addicts fail to do any of that and instead stay awake for multiple days in a row with no food or water consumption. If you were to not eat drink or sleep for a couple of days sober you would get the same effects.
Actually meth causes the saliva to lose its anti-bacterial acidity, which then allows bacteria to flourish in the teeth and gums. It's not just bad oral hygiene.
P2P was the old meth in the 70s. That was also the kind that various military's used during the 40s-50s. After it was outlawed, thats when the ephedrine-meth came into the picture and you had guys making it from cold nasal sprays in the 80s/early 90s. Those kinds of nasal sprays were outlawed so then they figured out you could extract it from cold nasal pills.
Now people are just buying everything from clandestine Chinese chemical vendors online. Literally boomer tweakers basically dark webbing even tho it's probably not even that deep to buy the shit this way. In personal experience it was absolutely effortless to buy alprazolam powder fentanyl powder and others (for science, right?) etc
I know a guy, he was a teacher. Nice guy. He had cancer and a special needs kid and all the bills started piling up. Anyway, long story short, the meth he makes is a helluva drug!
I did my psychiatry residency at LAC+USC hospital from 2012-2017. If you want to know more about what the contemporary “face of meth” looks like, talk to literally any of the psychiatrists there. Meth psychosis was probably 2/3rds of what we saw in the ER on a daily basis.
I witnessed this first hand with my fiance. Nothing I said or showed her or gave her to read would get through to her. She thought I was conspiring with others to get her to commit suicide,she thought people were trying to kill her,thought her family was involved,thought the police abducted and tortured her,when in fact she was simply arrested. She told me she saw the devil walking down the street,said he was 12 feet tall. Stole my handgun had to call police on her. Barricaded me out of our home for a week. Sad thing is before this started she carried a 3.98 grade point average in a paralegal program,had a great future ahead of her. Now that is all thrown away and a waisted 3 years and I had to leave. It's a disgusting and frightening thing to witness.
This is a hard fact. The meth now will completely melt your mind, body and soul. It's garbage and will take you 👇 DOWN. Very sad. People deserve and need better alternatives. Ty Dr. for your insight!
Most people with Meth psychosis are almost certain to have other risk factors that lead to mental heath issues. It could be the meth triggers these risk factors but it's likely they were already at risk of mental health problems. I know this because I know people that never even smoked a joint with schizophrenia, And I know people like myself for everyday meth users that use it like an energy drink or coffee, once in the morning and once after work and I'm as normal as can be. Good Job nice house pos car. I think most of what he's saying is coming from the worst side of meth and can't be attributed to the drug alone.
I'm not sure what people are talking bout. I never got scared , never was homeless , had a job an new car always working never enclosed into my own world its all about how you did it. I never let it control me an I did it for 5 years. I slept every night I ate at end of day. I did it from waking up an did it on breaks at work. It's weak minded no will power people that would lose themselves in it. Don't mean that as a rude comment but you have to be in control. I was. Today I'm still working still new car an clean 1 an half year now
I can sleep and eat on that shit but I definitely sleep less and eat less than usual. And yeah it's not one hit and it becomes the only thing I care about or the only way I feel happy. I'm not physically addicted. I don't use every day. But every time I get clean I relapse at random so far so IDK man you can look down on people as weak minded but it literally affects different people differently.
Don't know who this "expert" is, but his characterization that the new meth is different from the previous version and is used for different reasons with different effects is flat out wrong. I was in the middle of a meth epidemic in the 2000's in one of hotbeds. Worked with meth addicts everyday. It was frequently used by middle class laborers to keep them going. Was rarely used in my area for parties and the paranoia and withdrawing absolutely occured back then.
IMHO he meant how the ingredients have dramatically changed alongside the cost has become cheaper which changed different effects as opposed to back in the day...
The truth about drugs is heartbreaking. Seeing my cousin and his partner acting the way they did and slowly lose their mind was sad. I was blind to it as a kid but we don’t all start off as crazy homeless people. It’s just our community and behavior to survive that makes us change as people. I’d hope that we could make better decisions as people and our community and culture change as our choices do.
Meth doesn't give rise those symptoms.... No sleep in combo with no food or water is what causes all that craziness.... You could do dope all day, but if you sleep and eat you will be fine mentally...
Pretty much... u stay up for 3 days and u start seeing shadows in the side of ur vision and when it wear off 3 days no sleep u feel like crap... you don't even get withdrawls from it... I get withdrawls from having sex for 12 hours on it.. I only do meth to fuck for hours not do meth to do meth lol
It is disgusting to think people would destroy another person for the love of money. Ok, yeah, spoke without thinking.. look at the American government.
It began in Missouri & Kansas around 1994 and became a commonly used drug by 1999. In 2005 the U.S. banned the sale of ephedrine and in 2006 heavily restricted the sale of pseudoephedrine. Both of those substances are major precursors in the synthesis methods used by rural downhome clandestine meth labs. So with ephedrine being illegal buy or posssess in the U.S. and pseudoephedrine's sales strictly monitored by 2006 alot of the larger scale Missouri & Kansas Meth Labs were no longer financially viable.
Tx 02-07-color changing,baby blue,glass etc ephedrine sht.....now its bags of neo crystalphrenia psychosis sht in 1 session......horrific ,glad Im sober since 08
I knew the exact oposite. P2P dope was then norm back in the seventies and 80 and we heard that exact same scaremongering when they switched to Pseudoephdrine process. They are the same damn thing and you are being fed scare propaganda.
Am I the only one that has had hugely positive life changes since using meth? I’ve found passion through music and guitar and singing since starting meth 3 years ago. People also tell me I’ve changed in positive ways such as my behaviour and how I carry myself and socialise, I’m guessing I must have ADHD and the meth has been treating it?
That sounds about right for the Midwest, 2016 to 2017. I had already stopped doing heroin by then, but started hearing about more and more people doing meth. It wasn’t very common until then. I’m glad I got out of that life when I did because I missed most of the fentanyl additives. The use of illicit fentanyl is a huge problem. I know at least 5 people who have died this year after relapsing.
Glad to hear you got off the smack. I'm so grateful to not be chasing that shit esp. now given the fent and tranq that's out there. I don't even know if one can find just regular H anymore. I know some people here in Chicago that are into 'coke', and last time I saw it, I had to explain to them that what they were doing wasn't anywhere near cocaine, and that it tasted (yes, I put a smidge on my tongue) and that it was probably Lidocaine and meth plus god knows what. We just had 5 or 6 dudes hit the floor at a local bar recently. I'm not sure if anyone died, but all were taken to hospital via ambulance and a couple were in the ICU. Can you imagine being strung out and the only thing avail was fent and then not knowing if there was tranq or not.
Yes, its a silent war, and how could it be anything else? some big organization is killing off a mass of Americans and doctors don't care to know what they are up to? Seems this way my Doctors got me hooked and don't know anything about what they Prescribe. The reason why pharmacies are running out meth is because they can't tell you it's going to kill you. not 100% sure but what else to go figure. @@stringlarson1247
I heard about meth in the Midwest back in the early 90's Sioux falls SD to be exact. It was not uncommon by any means. I believe around the same time the Queen of meth was riding to her fame. Don't remember her actual name but there is a documentary about her. If I recall right she was related to Rosanna Barr's husband
I had no idea that this was the case but I guess it's analogues to safrole being banned and chemists started using anisol instead of safrole and instead created PMA/PMMA, which killed many people I am a drug user and my life is less safe because people say you shouldn't be doing this or that yet tomorrow I must have a blood test and an ultrasound because I switched to alcohol. I'll always be able to drink alcohol and it will kill me within a few years. pisses me off to hear things like this when the biggest killer of young men in europe is alcohol.
Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs. Drinking too much can kill you. If my you stop drinking suddenly it can kill you. Are you still with us? Please get help and don't die. Your life is sacred, too.
🤔🤔🤔hes right about them changing the "recipe" and he's right about the price of it dropping. A quarter ounce (7grams or 2 eight balls) for it used to cost like $300+/- for the lower quality stuff, but for like $450+/- you could get the really good quality. And then BOOM one day it was like $70-$100 for a quarter ounce. But the quality also dropped and when the pandemic hit and nobody was working but still getting financial assistance and/or unemployment for some reason the quality still sucked but prices went through the damn roof. One thing I noticed that changed in people with the lower quality is how 🤔🤔childish or ignorant and almost narcissistic people started behaving. And less active it started making people and also procrastination started to become one of their better qualities. And I swear it makes people gain weight instead of losing it nowadays. I stopped using it a few years ago because I had to but I still hang out with people who use it i just will smoke weed when im around them....which ends up making them want to get stoned instead of try to get high off of speed so it works out nicely. I don't do drama or stupidity so if its starts up i just leave some weed for whomever wants to smoke and go home.
You hit that shit' right on the head, that shit' ain't getting stronger it's quality has dropped big time and your definitely right about procrastination being on the rise, I never seen so many stuck people in my life, nobody getting anything done and yah what happened to the weight loss? I see people eating WHILE there doing it, definitely low low quality and as for the paranoia I believe is more from lack of sleep and/or already in people's heads just some more than others, meaning that if someone's tripping they most likely trip regardless of the quality but that's just my opinion, but imo this author is a little bit off on his facts on the get down on this new meth, he doesn't even say it right. Just stating my thoughts on it all.
what do you think about weed? I noticed around 2004-2006 my weed highs started to change I went from happy and hungry to depressed and not hungry. like maybe new recipe or chemicals in weed triggered something in my brain that causes me to get paranoid and depressed everytime I smoke. dabs. oil make it only worse. so you think Marijuana growers or cartels started adding more chemicals to grow more robust plants but lowering its quality?
So true. I was going to also comment on the fact he doesn't pronounce it right. I already left my super long comment down below stating more in depth as to what this shit is as it's no longer methamphetamine. To know more, look for my other comment more toward the very top of the comment section. People including meth addicts have a lot to learn.
It's the lack of sleep that frys ur brain... the meth actually makes you smarter... but when u start staying up for 3 days and start seeing shadows moving in the side of ur vision....
This makes so much sense. I quit meth because I started to notice very scary side effects like very vivid hallucinations. My “friend” physically attacked me a couple of times. It was never anything close to that back in the day.
I cook meth in my home amphetamine laboratory and methamphetamine is interesting and fun, but I lack a graceful girl with me during cooking because it takes some time
the tent equivalency is disgusting. a tent makes sense if you don't have a roof over your head. equating homeless tents to meth renders this guy's entire dialogue into a joke.
I been using meth since 2018 and I am 59. When I use I'm not like people who are tweakers I always knew that I had AHDA, but when I use crystal it changes my way I am. I have no problem with stopping and I don't crave it and I am completely different type of person. I don't get depressed or anxiety and I use it on a daily basis since 2018
You just ain't met the right supplier yet. I got ADD and ADHD as well so ppl don't even know I'm on it. But eventually overtime as with anything else, it will either catch up to you or you'll find what your looking for. My advice to you, even tho your content with using, if you can walk away as easy as you say you can, I'd advise that you RUN and count your blessings. It wont kill you but depression will find you and introduce you to daily suicidal thought binges
I have noticed that bad coke is the same way, feeling very socially introverted and paranoid as opposed to happy and chatty, probably because it's cut with cheap p2p meth.
If the meth is having different effects that's because it's got other psychoactive impurities in the product, ie it's "dirty", or it's a factor of it's mix of D-methamphetamine and L-methampetamine. D-methamphetamine is the one preferred by users.
I’d agree… especially when the previous impurity was chiefly ephedrine/pseudo and now it can be any number of things depending on the p2p production and reduction methods… scary shit.
Definitely the L-amphetamine I've had both there's still good meth hard to find but definitely the L-amphetamine causing the problems cause I can use D-amphetamine responsible no side effects like racing heart and high blood pressure but that racemic meth has you paranoid and jittery and doesn't make you horny very much
I remember when meth hit my town. I was lucky not to try it because I saw what it was doing to my friends. It made them all boring. All they ever wanted to do was get high so I had to stay away from them.
@@jrno93don't know what u talking bout , I've seen some pretty comical shit . That's on a individual level. Your speaking Abt generalized...no I've seen it all. That was them
After three decades and up to this very moment, I'm an everyday user...... I have a successful job, my focus is sharp, and I'm in excellent health, etc..... I have yet to experience paranoia, schizophrenia, and to say the least, being socially refrained.... It's in the way addicts use this substance... If an addict inoculates, then over a period of time this addict will begin experiencing the said symptoms which will progressively get worse.. I chose not to use the syringe.
I used to tour in the music biz. I did a lot of drugs. Pretty much all of them I do street outreach. Not out of some social debt but because I live central and was really pissed off that I was finding children, freezing, overdosing and worse in my back alley. The meth is really bad but the fact that every sample I've tested in 8 months tests positive for fentanyl. I won't rant... people do drugs. Our kids do drugs... Don't be paranoid, definitely do not feel or cause shame look after each other and look after OUR kids. THE MOST IMPORTANT.. Treat every kid on the street the way you would hope someone would treat your child if they were in the same situation. DEFEND THEM FROM PREDATION AND BE PATIENT Every street kid is reticent of kindness from elders and for damn good reason. Meet em where they are and meet em often Anybody reading this; don't judge, don't shame, be kind. Broken people don't have to stay that way. 🖤🖤🖤
Agree, people who are down are not usually sleazy people but if they aren't helped, they will get antisocial. So treat people kindly even if they're currently down, they will find the goodness in themselves if people show goodness for them
I've both used and produced the substance I don't understand how a chemical can be different than the exact same chemical the only way that it can be worse is if the chemical adaultrents or other chemicals in the process are not being converted very well and still being left over in the in the junk
@@oxman5571 no all he said was they switched from different starting chemicals they switched from ephedrine to P2P and by all accounts P2P should actually be a cleaner cook
@@oxman5571 he also said it has different psychological and physiological effects on the body which is absolutely impossible if we're dealing with the same molecule
P2P produces 2 types of meth molecules (L and D) simultaneously. One is basically junk and only increases heart rate, but is hard to separate from the other.
Right? None of the comments are even slightly similar to what I’ve experienced from it lately as opposed to like 7/8 years ago. I agree that it’s not as good anymore, but the effects it still has are those that can be used positively (imo) eg focus and prolonged wakefulness yet at the same time I can totally eat a huge meal and sleep a full 8hrs?? I’m battling to understand
Present day meth cooks uses a P2P chemical synthesis method rather than the ephedra method ( which is plant based) and some can isolate the dextro isomer which is more active in the brain, thus an over dose manifests as psychosis. The levo isomer is more active on the cardio vascular system with an “overdose” manifesting as a heart attack and extreme blood pressure. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
your kind of right, except its actually the PNS stimulation from the levo isomer that would be more responceable for anxiaty, and paranoia, combined with sleep deprivation. The PNS carries alot of responsibility in fight or flight response AND most importantly lasts longer than the CNS stimulation that produces the largely mental effects. Meaning someone redoseing can be "accumulateing" PNS stimulation which will start manifesting itself as "tweaking" then anxiaty, paranoia, and eventually they go off the rails
@@therideneverends1697 Maybe you can answer this. Seems to me its making everyone's feet, ankles & calves swell, at first thought it was maybe age,time spent on feet or never laying either standing or sitting, but as time goes on maybe it's just a new side effect of the new recipe.
Not sure if you have seen the question to ride never ends, but curious if you had any input on that, swelling of lower legs & feet seems to be the new recipe maybe?
@@martyturpen4535 that would lead me to think sloppy synthesis is resulting in disproportionate ratios of levo to dextro isomers. the Levo isomer is responsible for predominantly circulatory effects due to its vaso constriction, in small amounts its useful and sold as a decongestant. But it sticks in the system for a long time and with recreational use can accumulate and cause circulation problems like you mentioned. So if i had to guess, whoever's making the stuff is doing a bad job because meth should be the least vasoconstrictive of the amphetamine drug class compared to amphetamine, biphetamine or dextroamphetamine. OR they are not "washing" their product after production, methamphetamine produced for ADHD treatment in a professional setting has an additional step after synthesis thats used to clean off the catalysts and contaminants left behind from the reduction process. For P2p Production some of those leftovers could be quite nasty. compared to ephedrine reduction which would just have lingering ammonia and lithium. The only other thing that could come to mind is someones cutting it with the L-Methamphetamine from decongestants but i dont see why they would bother considering the cost, cant imagine someone cutting open 10 doller inhalers to get 250MG of padding material would cost less than the wholesale price of cartel produced product.
@@martyturpen4535My feet particularly the top of my foot at the base of my toes. I got it to go away by drinking less water and taking diuretics, but would not recommend this for obvious reasons. I have been very sedentary for the past year and a half, so that doesn't help I'm sure, but considering I was extremely active before then makes me think P2P was the catalyst for my current state. I'm in the process of trying to quit but can't seem to make it past 48 hrs when the lethargy and despair starts to hit its peak. I got off suboxone(10 years uninterrupted) 3 years ago, so I know Im capable of putting this shit down too. There isn't another drug that comes close to the shit show of a suboxone detox, it's looooong and brutal.
I’ve lived all my life in Baltimore, which for a while was (and maybe still is) known as the heroin capital of the US or at least the east coast. I used heroin regularly from ’04-’06. Meth was very hard to find and I only used it twice I think, but I remember thinking that if it had been more readily available, I would’ve definitely used it regularly.
Now heroin can't be found in this area. It's pressed fentanyl with xylozine. Pure garbage. I'll just use morphine. I've had crank twice no regrets. Don't know or don't want to know about the so called super meth. I'm fine smoking kiwi herb and some morphine. Fuxx that fentanyl garbage that's killed so many. A cheap ass deal we got here now.
People also need to remember that many other things contribute and get overlooked with psychosis. Like being up for 5 days in a row with no water and a half a pop tart doing pointless crazy shit
All I have to say is I don't know how people can't handle themselves on meth I'm just now getting clean after 7 years of daily use and I'm about a month without any but still I never once had a issue other than the normal pushing loved ones away because I loved drugs more at the time so honestly I think people need to learn how to control themselves and not let the drug control them
Very ignorant of you. I get it, I can be a functioning addict as well, but some people literally CANNOT be a functioning addict and it’s not because they are weaker, or maybe it is, but it’s not something they can change, they are just unable to be a functioning addict, and their only options are complete sobriety OR complete ruin.
Average person doesn't even know that a good portion of the economy is powered by amphetamines. SO many people use meth to cope with unrealistic work schedules, deadlines, etc. From truck drivers to office workers, everyone does it. I used to take Adderall for the night shift myself.
Buddy here is flat wrong lol It's been meth in New England for decades, I was intimately aware of it's presence in NYC, Jersey, and Boston since the late 90's/early 00's, and that Mexican cartel meth most definitely made it to the East Coast just to a much lesser degree cause so much is homegrown out this way and every other person knows how to shake n bake even if they don't use or sling. Idk where he gets this from but anybody in the streets knows better and so does law enforcement. Dudes were getting jacked for crystal since I'm a jit.
Meth isn’t that bad in responsible doses. It has a very high LD/50 and is very cheap so some users use ridiculously high doses which is where the real problems come
methamphetamine is methamphetamine regardless of how it is synthesized. the end chemical, after all those different reactions, is methamphetamine. any amphetamine, whether pharmaceutical grade or something made on the street will always cause paranoia, hallucinations, and odd behavior with prolonged use. always. the brain cannot handle that amount of dopamine without causing the person to become psychotic. all antipsychotic medications effect the level of dopamine available to the synaptic cleft, whether through inhibiting release or synthesis, or increasing reuptake. the fact this new meth has a different set of precursor chemicals is irrelevant, especially if the cook knows what he is doing. even then it still doesn't matter much. dopamine in large sustained quantities is always bad. I'd also like to be petty and point out the word ends with an "e" not a hard "m" I also love (not being sarcastic) how he points out that legalizing marijuana has harmed the cartel. if you're worried about what's in the meth, LEGALIZE AND REGULATE IT. people are going to do it regardless. why not cut violent, murderous enterprises down at the knees while offering safer versions of drugs? money. that's why. it's way more profitable for certain groups in the United States to keep drugs illegal, chief among them is the Judiciary branch and it's prison industrial complex.
I get the point dude is trying to make about tents being nice for people tweaked out. But... tents are shelter and I would say that is the overwhelming reason homeless use tents. Tweaked or not shelter is shelter.
They have tea shops all around SC. I haven't tried it, but damn people are jacked up from it and believe me all the moms are up there at 9am to get that tea. I'm right outside of Charleston, Summerville SC. People are moving here to get away from drugs. I've lived here most my life and the drugs are bad here. The fact is that the goog ole boy system runs deep, and corruption is bad.
I'd like to discuss this with Sam, I have been observing the changes in the speed market for 40 years, the pseudoephedrine speed was the replacement for P2p speed that was made in Oregon and Washington until the early 90's the Water and Glass type ephedra started to show up and it changed the culture. folks stopped dismantling things, Frankenstein-ing them back together, or Tweaking it was called. the Glass had no rush but you stayed up for days there was a sexual obsession that came with it and a can not turn your head far enough to catch em paranoia that feeds itself h your soul. so now the Mexicans are playing with P2p this will get real crazy omg. glad I will get to sit this one out. I would like to contact sam Q
Methamphetamine has the same effect no matter if it's ephedrine or P2P as long as it is correctly synthesized. Methamphetamine is Desoxyepedrine HCl, period. This may be a matter of purity but the end product is the same.
Exactly why all hard drugs should be legalized and regulated. Provide a safe supply of drugs to addicts and put focus on mental health and recovery instead of criminality.
Sudafed is made from pseudoephedrine, not ephedrine. The major factor in the meth epidemic is it is being smoked, whereas it used to be snorted, swallowed, and injected. I never even heard of "ice" until I moved to Hawaii in 91. Smoking ice was huge there a d I believe that is where it started in the US.
As usual the government's effort to prohibit illegal drugs has made things even worse. I'm not saying ephedra meth is good for you but P2P/Shake and bake has even worse potential consequences.
I mean awesome for trying but yea ive used meth and been around people "tweaking out". This gives me that type of vibes. Someone who just blabbers on and on about some video they watched on youtube and now they feel like they cracked the code on it lol
Im boutta pack a bowl right now🫠 the paranoia helps me make beats but all my music always have a slight horror movie vibe to according to what my friends n family tell me. I personally love it. I used to be homeless and yes, this man is correct i swear to God after a couple nights being up u would start seeing dead people. I knew a lot of schizophrenic users it was very hard to prove to them that i wasnt a demon lmao wut do u say "im not a demon" thats what a demon would say lmaoo. Being educated on psychosis, human behaviors and the Holy Bible as well as shamanic eastern spirituality and native american culture, im able to avoid these negative effects. The ego inflation still gets me sometimes tho i try my best to stay humble. It is serious tho no matter how smart u think u are ur gonna be effected in ways u dont even know until ur smoking carpet dope under a bridge with other users talking to dead ppl😂 tread carefully
Man there isn’t too many like us. The meth now sucks, maybe 5-6 years ago or so it was fantastic. Regardless, I liked that start of 60+ hour period where you are in a different state of mind. Its crazy, scary, fun, horribly awesome always different but the same experiences. Sometimes when you can balance it hours right, I call it a frequency, somehow you able to tap into things that are actually there and sometimes you think it’s there because it’s all in your mind and not real or is it? But then again what you believe becomes reality and reality is a fact at that time in your brain. Whether your subconscious is taking over 10 times than normal or whatever the case may be it takes no less than 60+hours of no sleep to achieve that experience. And by no means am I encouraging it to others or pushing it as myself and you can vouch, do not try this! This is not a good idea for 99.9% of the people out there.
@@jamiethomas3306Majority of people are wimps , are already mentally ill or white trash . They got no business doing that drug , especially banging it. That being said , my opinion , alcohol ain't no worse . You can only do so much dope in your lifetime and at that point the dope really loses it's special effects and it really is not much more than a case of beer for level of effect.
Took what i thought was mdma. Yes, shame on me for not testing. It was meth and I was geeked for 3 days. After the first day I was so paranoid because I thought I fucked up my brain. Horrible experience, always test your stuff even if it's constantly from the same source. Those 3 days were borderline terrifying.
He's right though. Been clean since 2015, but meth is the psychological nightmare drug. I've seen shit that would make you piss your pants from meth. It's a horrible drug that the world would be better without. Full stop. Opiates are the physical nightmare, amphetamines are the psych nightmare.
The way he just seamlessly associated meth use with homelessness makes me annoyed. Homelessness has a ton of systemic causes that have nothing to do with meth use.
Totally agree with you, don't go straight from using meth to being homeless and I'm sure that it has caused some to be homeless and other factors are involved he failed to mention.
Here is the thing I was homeless for 5 long winters I spent the majority of my homeless career in Tacoma Washington area but I have been homeless throughout the entire United States from Florida to Atlantic City to Vegas I've seen it all some of the biggest cities in the US and in my specific situation I became homeless before I started using and with nowhere to sleep and nothing to eat and meth on every corner it was easier to score a bag of meth than it was to get a bag of potato chips and that's the god honest truth so if you want to stop the drug use on the streets first let's start with give us somewhere to sleep and something to eat because if we're hungry and we ain't got nowhere to lay down what the fuck we might as well get high right thank God for my parents who were able to forgive me for being such a liar and a deceiving son and I was able to move on from this part of my life but I will never forget it and I won't regret it and humbled me and I think everyone should have to experience homelessness maybe then they might have a little bit more love a little bit more understanding
He's exactly right about the symptoms of this new meth vs pre-2012 are totally opposite. I am an addict and relapse every few years to self medicate and every time I go absolutely insane and damn near ends my life. I needed someone to clarify what was going on with the quality of the new meth because I kept telling myself that maybe this time I won't go crazy and will handle it well. I wasn't sure why I've been having such negative symptoms the last few relapses but now I understand why. There's no avoiding the insanity even if the initial high is very good upon ingesting. But within a few hours the anxiety and tension headaches start and in 2 days you are totally destroyed.
In Missouri now meth is everywhere, in every town, no matter how small. Independence, which was the meth capital of the world, 30 years ago, has close to 10,000 homeless people. That's alarming even in a suburb of Kansas City with 150,000+ population. The cost of living here is higher than in Omaha or Fayetteville/Bentonville, Arkansas, but it's perhaps 75% cheaper than in Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles or Houston. When we have that many meth zombies in Harry Truman's home town in the heart of America, we are in deep, deep trouble with meth. Malta Bend, Slater, Waverly and other river towns of 300-1,800 people have houses that are so cheap they're basically available in many cases for under $10,000. We should not have burglaries, carjackings, armed robberies and homelessness in Lexington, Missouri. It's no longer a game, because every town in America will have zombies on the loose very soon. They will kill you in psychotic mental states. Much of the political violence and random acts of mass shootings are actually fueled by this drug.
But the chemist in that huge drug lab scandal in Massachusetts was using meth in the early 2000's? ????? It's getting more widely used as of 2018, sure, but it's been in New England much longer than that.
He's speaking specifically of Mexican versions. They're was a huge meth lab in the South End of Boston busted in 2008, So I too questioned that timeline.
So is he saying that legalizing a drug makes it harder to obtain/sell illegally? Or just sometimes? Hospitals use some heavy drugs legally and we still have a market for those drugs illegally. So legalizing cannabis made less illegal sales of cannabis but we can’t make meth recreational so how can we legalize it in a way to make it regulated enough to decrease illegal trafficking?
A family member of mind has been using since I was in the 2nd grade(30ish years ago). And because of this, I will never use drugs in my life. Sad but true.
I find the new way has greatly improved the drug honestly. It used to be too tweaky and you couldn't focus. Now you're spot on and not tired. Sadly, it's not used properly by most. I'm not recommending it but I wanted to at least give an opinion from the other side of the debate.
Drugs like meth are incredibly difficult to be used "properly". Its not standardized and the effects are much more extreme and long lasting than say powder coke. That said, it should be decriminalized.
What are you smoking lol The new shit is terrible , being stuck sitting doing nothing for hours with the worst brain fog there is and then after a few hours of not having a hoot a person just feels literally sick until they smoke more. Also it seems like it increases hunger annoyingly The old stuff made life great with max creativity &ideas gave a person drive to be productive and live life. Compared to todays stuff the old stuff improved your life if you were smart, now it just has the opposite effects. And it didn’t make you sick
Meth addiction actually destroyed my life. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder, got diagnosed with OCD. Spent my whole life fighting OCD. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
I was a meth addict for the better part of my life it turned me into another creature
Clean for 60 days let's pray ot stays this way
praying for you brother
Get yourself some Ashwagandha. It will ease any anxiety you're having as a result of your recovery.
Thank u for the tip I'll definitely research it I could use some help with all the damage I've done to my head abusing drugs
@@codiestjohn it takes several weeks to start working, but it does work, as long as you stick with it
@@badactor3440 I got me some of that ashwagandha stuff yesterday
I was addicted to this kind of meth for about 3 years, worst time of my life.
I was terrified all the time, would see things at night and had no trust in anyone. It's horrifying.
Now what’s your drug?
Glad you are off it man. It's a nightmare... I was shooting heroin and meth mixed together for about 2 years and had been shooting heroin for 2 years prior to that, smoked both for years as well. 4 years clean in two weeks :)
Stay strong, White Knuckling sobriety is a real bitch.
A person bears their soul and idiots want to make jokes. Grow up. I'm sorry you went through that. Be strong
Josh L, it sure doesn't sound like fun. I understand the addiction of opiates, but what was the draw to this kind of meth for you? Was it just to take you out of the current reality, or is it actually addictive physically?
I was hooked on this kinda meth. Had a job at the same time. One time I called out because I had been up for 4 days. I felt guilty about calling out the entire time. Eventually, I hallucinated every single one of my coworkers coming into my apartment and just staring at me. I tried to clean up my stuff but they were all just staring at me, judging me. I had trash everywhere, it was a mess. I felt so horrible about it.
Eventually I passed out. I woke up and they were all gone. It was about 3 in the morning. I immediately smoked a bowl of crystal. It was the most terrifying thing I’ve experienced in my life, but it wasn’t enough to get me off the drug.
The last time I was given meth, it felt different. I wanted to do work but couldn’t. It sucked. Flushed the whole bag down the toilet and will never do any kind of meth again. It was a blessing in disguise.
Same here. It was too powerful. I flushed quite a bit. Scared the shot outta me. It was like I was STUCK. I wanted to do shit but couldn't, and you can get soooo much for little of nothing.
Yeah it actually make u feel more lazy if that makes any sense
Yes sir God bless
It ain't the way it used to be good. Thank god I wont do it anymore either. I dont want phetnanol in my dope that's the stuff making you sick after a few hits instead of vacuuming the floor or talking no stop you are getting sick of it
How did it suck? I'm curious and wanna compare it to the shit I just smoked. Shaking and trembling. Shivering maybe I'm cold IDK man
Always love hearing "FACTS" from a couple of people thats never actually had an addiction
Don't forget the wave of parrots that don't know any better, and will repeat the ignorance as fact. "I've never lived it, but let me tell you all about it"..
@nsmr925 My cat likes ice cream.
I hear ya!
This guy is off his ass and out of his tree. Alot of wrong no facts
@@YerBrwnDogAteMyRabit all kinds or does your cat have favorite?
The people he talks about represent less than 5% of the using population. And, the P2P he is talking about was restricted and outlawed way before now. It is curious how, decades later, this pops up again. So, he is claiming that there is no ephedrine used, even with P2P? Seriously? And that it makes you homeless? Who the hell is this guy? My girlfriend and I belong to the drug alliance , and besides this guy just lying for whatever reason. The Nixon admin, and his cabinet members(who did 30 years in prison)Erlichman said, " We made it all up. Of course we knew it was not true. We could not outright arrest blacks and antiwar protesters, we had to associate crack with hippies and heroin with black, then criminalize the hell out of it". And it won his election. The war on drugs is b-s. Thge people they talk about is less than 5% of the using population, and the most extreme. Nothing they do helps it, only exaserbates it. For instance, here in AZ, our taxes have paid for affordable housing to be built for the homeless for two decades now, but last year, the money went to the police to enforce urban camping and trespass laws and arrest them. This year, our idea of helping the homeless, is in 116 degree weather, remove the benches and the shades from all bus stops. Brilliant, right? People should look into how the homeless were treated leading up to, and in the beginning of ww2. There are startling similarities that should not be ignored. It shows an almost exact parallel between actions taken then, and what we are doing now. The answer to any of this , from the governments view, seems to be if they do not see it, then it is not a problem. That is what happened back then too, and the said it became cheaper asnd easier to just get rid of them permanently. When I see videos and people like this, and nothing they say means anything, but does create a sub-human population worthy of whatever happens to them, it just paves the way for them to commit atrocities against people, and no one will feel guilty. Please be aware of what is happening around you. If you see the police or anyone else violating the rights or abusing the homeless, you need to stick up for them, because if you do not, eventually, people will remember that, and who will then stick up for you? We can judge a country, and it's leaders by how they treat those who have the least there. How would you say the US ranks in that today?
So drugs good?
520 represent!
Get asphalt methamphetamine off the streets. End the drug war. Legalize, tax and regulate amphetamine salts / Adderall and you've essentially made meth obsolete. Simple.
Doctors, patients are dropping dead.
The other ninety percent of the population needs to come to this realization
These juggernaut heads , old-school people , that pound the bible , would you ever think for one second they would allow something as stigmatized and looked down on , become legalized ? Ha . Meth is like the black sheep of the substance family , you could be high as hell on cocaine and people would laugh and smile thinking it's funny. But say the M word and everyone's calling the cops on you , yet it's the Ferrari of stimulant drugs and from a technical standpoint the best one out there due to chemical release percentage. Also people unlike alcohol , kill others while driving . .for most part. That will never happen. Not in a million years. The cops are making too much money off the drug war , so is so many more aspects of the legal system. Legalize it and DEA and many other agencies would pretty much be worthless without a job. They're never having that
Get fentanyl off street too. The bs needs to stop..heroin is hard AF to find today and cartel is making fentanyl. Curious if they will decide to bring tar heroin back and triple prices. They probably would and could get the triple price. Fuxx fentanyl.
NASA prefers Meth as it's their go to stimulant when long periods of alertness are required. Let adults have access to pharmaceutical meth if they want.
I'm almost 2 years clean, Praise Jesus!!!
Emma is right about meth setting up the opioid epidemic too. I was a meth user for a few years and never had any intention of doing heroin or fentanyl until I ended up finding out it’s the only thing that put me to sleep when I was done with being high on meth. Haven’t used meth in almost a year but I still struggle with using opioids, only been off of them for a little over a month. Getting off opioids has been way harder for me to do than getting off meth was. It’s ridiculous
Be strong. Be proud everyday sober is a day you get to live...
Sappy shit and I'm not gonna say I have much experience but I just want people to live to the fullest since life so short
Don't give up! I know it's tough, but, it is possible. Cheering for you!
Suboxone is a very good alternative. I've been on it for around 10 years. It took forever for me to get healthcare, but once they expanded medicaid around 2011 in my state, it changed my life. At my worst I was taking daily trips to my city to get very potent heroin and I overdosed 3 times… But once I got the healthcare, I stopped living like a criminal, and now I just go to the doctor, and they manage my dose, drug test me. Now, Suboxone very hard to get off of, I've been using it for almost a decade on and off, but if you don't have any other choice and your opioid use becomes life-threatening, it's a very good option.
@@RegularRegs good for you, seriously.
And most important, suboxone allows most to achieve a 'normal' life. Glad you were finally able to get it, it's still a challenge for many in many states due to bureaucratic obstacles like added training for doctors and DEA waivers required just to prescribe it, and then there's a limit to how many people they can prescribe it to.
And yet, they can prescribe fentanyl at any amount, at their discretion. It's a major issue that needs fixing, by congress.
@@fromulus yeah agreed
My brother passed away from a fentanyl and meth overdose on December 21, 2022. He experienced serve paranoia, delusions, and acted schizophrenic. He did have an underlining mental health issue and we just never knew it was drugs. I found out last night when they listed his cause of death through the medical examiner's office. I saw this video and realized he was addicted to meth. He probably didn't know it had fentanyl in it. May he rest in eternal peace with no more worries. My family and I miss him so very much. It just breaks my heart. I read some comments on another video and people think so low of people with addiction-may god bless their hearts anyway. Sobriety is the key to living in this world for those who suffer from addiction. I will pray for you all because spreading love is so much more powerful than spreading hate.
I'm so sorry for your loss ❤️🩹
@@heartsongz9 Thank you so very much ❤️🙏🏾
She’s exactly right I went though the same thing with a loved one a woman who I was engaged to
I'm so very sorry. He must have been hurting so much but didn't know how to reach out.
@@yanabahm.1728it's not EAZY to spot a meth user hun and it is sad thing that happened 2 ur brother
My personal experience with meth between '77 and '97 was not always "social." In fact what he described with this new meth is what I eventually experienced on the ephedra meth of the 90's. I had several psychotic episodes, and I'm very lucky to be alive today.
How could you know exactly what precursors were used in the illicit drugs you bought off the street and used between 1977-& 1997? Unless you were the cook-or a chemist?
P2P was used throughout the last 60 years….
@BushyHairedStranger I'd imagine he's basing that assessment on what the video (FAR from what I'd call a "solid source") is telling us, and mathematically and historically speaking, there was a far better chance of the meth back then being ephedra, or at least pseudo based. These people are reading things, I highly doubt there is any first hand experience. You're also making the assumption it was "bought on the street". Maybe he knew a guy, or his cousin Eddie Ephedra made it. I'd be inclined to think that regardless of precursor, people have had some pretty shtty experiences on meth; there are no absolutes.
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@Muscleman8562 He just did.
To back my post, my step brother in law was a Texas State Trooper. In state police training, they learned to make meth 3 different ways so they could identify labs and chemicals.
Also, unfortunately, my uncle, who is in prison as a repeat offender, was a meth cook. I am not proud of this, but he and some other sources confirmed the toxic left in the batch when cooks did not wash the product. Just please don't mess with that drug or any other drug if you can avoid it..
Meth and opiates destroyed the area where I live. I've battled with opiate addiction for a long time, but a lot of the people I grew up with are struggling with one or the other, or both in a lot of cases. And the people I grew up with are not the lower class poor, but more middle to upper class. You could always tell when that switch came he was talking about, a close friend of mine who had a problem with both would suddenly want everyone including his family to get out of his home because he was blown out on meth so bad that having everyone there made it too hard for him to tell which person was robbing him and what it was that was missing. No one ever actually took anything from him, you'd always find out a day or two later he had just misplaced it. It was really sad to watch him slowly hate people he cared about. These things are no joke
We support you :,(
@@alangivre2474 thank you for that. Im actually sober and have been for a year or two. I had a beautiful niece born that kind of flipped everything for me and changed my life. I just really like to speak out about it because of how hard the life is and how bad the stigma is
@@mickswagger6086 what kind of dumb comment is that to make? It's worse than dumb, it's cruel. How dare you talk about vaccines being the same kind of problem meth and opiates are to a recovered opiate addict. Who does that? It took every ounce of strength in me and every other addict to get off that stuff and we have to deal with it our entire lives. No one is having withdrawal and addiction issues from vaccines. They literally cause no harm in anyone. My God I don't think I've ever been more angry at someone for a comment than I am that one. That's so disrespectful to people fighting addiction all over the world.
I was addicted to heroin in the 90's. I'm 21 years clean. I think if fentanyl was really prevalent while I was using I wouldn't have gotten clean. I probably would be dead. I almost died many times from regular China white. I know people who struggle today. I do everything I can to help addicts who are trying to get help. There are more resources then when I needed help, but it's still not enough. My city lost a treatment center due to a fire, yet to be replaced. Many outpatient programs (through the court mainly) are an abject failure! It's an in and out cycle of the same people going to court to outpatient and back again. For residential treatment you have to want to so bad you have to beg, but unfortunately people have to wait. The waiting almost never leads to people going because they need to not get sick and be in the worst pain. Pain that most people can't even imagine! The other danger is when people go through withdrawal and leave treatment. There tolerance is down, but end up doing the same amount as before. It can lead to O.D. a death. I keep Narcan in my car and at home. Unfortunately, other drugs are not safe from containing Fentanyl. Countfit pills, cocaine, MDMA etc. Not even a causal drug user is safe from using Fentanyl.
@@silkcitysocialist420 it feels really good when I can read a response like yours and feel a measure of comfort that someone understands the kind of pain and sickness and anxiety going through that is. I really struggled the first time I tried getting clean because at every step you almost had to bow down and be in shame to everyone that was there to help you, and I wasnt ready to do what it really takes to get clean, so it didn't last cause I wasn't willing to put up with the people you have to deal with. I can't imagine what it was like to go through it back at that point in time. I don't think I could have done it without medication on the withdrawals and I really needed the therapy and counseling. I had almost died more times than I can count. I was lucky that I got out of it before I got in any kind of trouble for the heroine. To be honest, it was a stroke of luck on several things that happened at the same time that saved my life. My sisters daughter was born and I am very very close with my family, and even tho they never wavered on loving me, they couldn't let me have any relationship with my niece if I kept going that way. By a miracle, while my sister was pregnant, a treatment center opened within 30 min of my hometown, so I went home, got treatment, am still in longterm treatment, and got clean. It's been a few years now. When I tried before I never really believed I would keep up with it. But this time I haven't had the urge to wanna go back. Something just clicked. But I still see a therapist regularly and I still get treatment at my clinic. I'm a chronic pain patient and I don't want my pain to be a factor in going back to the life, so I just keep up with everything like I did when I had just started. Honestly, I think it's a miracle that this many of us are still alive. And thats crazy I think. It's so easy to die from it and the death toll is so high. But it could be worse, and this country needs to keep doing more to help with the stigma and how addicts are treated. It shouldn't be so shameful to get help to the people around us. I'm very lucky that my family is super close and stuck by me, but that's the exception, not the rule. I just wish they could find better and more convenient ways of helping people. And the help didn't come from staff that act like their job is to catch you up doing something wrong rather than to actually help you. Unless you want to be clean so bad it hurts, it's almost impossible to actually achieve it. And I've never met anyone who can do it on their own.
I'm not too proud to admit I went on a meth bender for 18 months back in 2006. I was lucky, I was able to just walk away from it before it destroyed me. Others aren't so lucky.
Congrats on getting clean from meth! It ravaged the mind, body and soul of someone whom I once considered a close friend and 11 years later, at age 42, is currently awaiting sentencing on 3 felony charges and several misdemeanor ones due to his meth addiction. And this has been a repeated cycle over 11 years. Devastating drug.
@@feralLove - Yes. I guess what saved me was the fact I'd drifted from my main group of friends and family into the wrong crowd. When I realised what it was doing to me, I just walked away and was taken back by my family.
Not to criticize, but 18 months is a lot more than a bender, lol. Glad you were able to walk away from that, though. I'd be fucked if I did anything other than weed for that long, I think. Probably a lot of people would be.
Glad you got clean, take care
Meth aint that bad.
I find it disheartening that this was relayed uncritically. the only significant difference between an ephedrine/pseudoephedrine synthesis and a phenyl-2-propanone synthesis would be isomeric composition, which, isn't exactly trivial pharmacologically, but to say that a racemic mixture of methamphetamine is significantly more harmful than dextro-methamphetamine, to me conveys that this guy doesn't fully grasp what it is that he's saying. and, to me, that is dangerous when you're dealing with a subject like substance abuse, especially as it relates to journalism.
If you actually listen to what he is saying, any person that knows anything about drugs knows he has no clue what he is talking about.
Generally, chemically, yes you're right. The problem, though, is you're wrong. It IS effectively different, it DOES matter that much. He is spot on regarding the method/effects changing. It's exactly true, how the effects are different and it has gone from gay party drug to schizophrenic tent homeless drug. I can't explain the process doing that, maybe there's another element that changed and is not being considered. But both issues he describes are absolutely true and accurate: chemically, socially, and chronilogically.
@@LanielDarson339 The user base changed. That's it.
NO CLUE!! At all and I agree you can totally tell he's way off on what he's talking about and he's not even close to being spot on. He's just wingin' it on alot of the stuff he says, not a bad guy and I'm not saying I'm better or smarter than him but . . . Also I do have a little knowledge and experience in the making and using of meth past and present, not bragging or proud about it but it is what it is!
@@timstreeter5368 facts. Most of us don't consider what is an even more powerful influence on our minds, bodies, and spirit : Environment. Our cultures and lifestyles around the world continue to change rapidly. So to is the attitudes and conditions around drug use. Compare 1975 with 2020 concerning Marijuana. Case and point.
The only thing that does freak me out like crazy is fentanyl mixing in with literally anything and THAT is destroying people so fast, it makes my ears ring. If I had any advice for anyone as an observer and not a user, Don't take any street opiates. Period. Or just stay away from opiates no matter what. That stuff - I don't know how buuuut - will open of the gates of hell (metaphor only, please don't think literal) inside the spirit and body.
Used to be a meth addict. Got hooked on opiates at the same time because the come down was rough without them. Ruined my life. If you’re out there struggling, just know there are people you can reach out to. You can get better.
What us it like to take opioids when you're coming down from meth?
I decided to stop too
Last weekend was my last time smoking
Before this last time i smoked like 34 or 5 times in all the entire year. Im done. I dont lile this mix of fentanyl and meth and im not going to play russian roulette
@@gonzaloarvietti4920 solidarity friend. It gets much, much easier. Good luck.
Yep. Same here got away/off of it 23ish years ago.
So fortunate to have gotten out as many "friends" didn't. Well, they did, but not just not in this world.
They come down off of meth isn't even that bad You sleep for a few days and you eat a lot are you kidding me Don't use that interest is an excuse because you use opiates now
A friend just told me this, he said this isn't the same speed we did back in the 90's. This shit is evil
I think it’s brought the devil into my life. Crazy, legitimately fkd up shit goin on for a few years and it never seems to let up
I don't understand this narrative about the new meth being evil. I'm on it right now and yeah I been more evil lately but. I'm not exactly crazy. Though I've definitely seen people get crazy. Delusional parasitosis for example. When my friend thinks she has these things growing in her skin. She gets real stressed and scared and starts seeing it on me or on other people or in the walls. But I think that's from smoking too much and not sleeping. She'll slam that shit too and been doing so for well over a year now so I think that's part of it. For a while she'd do it like every day.
This is scary especially when it hits close to home seeing your loved ones becoming addicted to this very dangerous drug
Even scarier when you ain't doing shit that would help and not drive some away. 😢it's sad the input normal people have in real life, their played out to look good when they are making shit worst.
This year I used it daily for 7 months straight and quit with almost no withdrawal. Yet I can’t go a couple hours without a cigarette or hit of by dab pen
Cigarettes is the only product that I have a issue with going without.
I never smoke cigarrettes but meth
Laat weekend was my last time trying it
I prefer just drink or stop the comunication with my friend. I said him this is not good
I ain't never withdraw from meth either so far as I can tell. But I'm the same with cigarettes I can go without them too. Addiction is kinda a mystery. Some people try a drug once and get addicted. Some people can binge a drug for months then quit with no issues.
please pray for my Son....Christopher Isaiah to be delivered from this !!🥺
Psilocybin saved my life . I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September . I have zero cravings . This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment .
Psychedelic are just an amazing discovery. Is quite fascinating how effective they are for depression and stress disorder.
I have researched and found out that shrooms are very helpful , it has really helps to reduce anxiety and depression . I would love to try magic mushrooms but I can't easily get some , Is there any realiable source I can purchase one
When you've experienced psilocybin,the visions,the feeling that others feel become relatable and real, but when you haven't they could sound weird
@@louisianawalters7452 Yes Dr. Mile
The Trips I've been having have really helped me a lot,I finally feel in control of my emotions and my future and things that used to be mundane to me now seem incredible and full of nuance on top of that I'm way less driven by my ego and I have alot more empathy as well
I was an opiate/heroin addict for over a decade. Tried the whole time to kick the habit. Sometimes id go 2 months and still feel like garbage when id finally give in, just for some relief. Started using meth and was totally off opiates withing a year. Havent touch even a percocet in abt 3-4 years. Id take th meth addiction over opiate w/o hesitation. Trying to get off meth now. Gf got off opiates th same way, but she stopped doin meth and is clean abt 2 years now
The thing that makes most drugs dangerous? Being illegal
More people than ever is using drugs than ever. It has become more acceptable to the law. I can't see your reasoning.
But necessarily true.
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@@bglynch3176Acceptable how? People get caught with drugs once and it narrows their employment options down to almost nothing.
I appreciate this interview so much. I've been saying this for years. I live in a border town, I have seen lots of friends and family members lose their minds off that meth trash. I'm losing my husband to this drug too.😢
I'm so sorry to hear that. it's got to be terrifying and a protracted living nightmare.
Hi
I cook meth in my home amphetamine laboratory and methamphetamine is interesting and fun, but I lack a graceful girl with me during cooking because it takes some time
@@WaelG-bp9xhkeep pushing forward, your meth queen will find you.
This guy dont know nothing about meth. Meth doesnt cause hallucination and all the other stereotypical side effects such as rotting teeth and face. Its how the drug affects the user and how they take care of themselves. If people would rest every night and eat, drink and take care of their hygiene properly every night then they would not experience those side effects. But thats not the case... most addicts fail to do any of that and instead stay awake for multiple days in a row with no food or water consumption. If you were to not eat drink or sleep for a couple of days sober you would get the same effects.
It’s true.
@@epicstrengthinsanity1235 Yessir.
True
Actually meth causes the saliva to lose its anti-bacterial acidity, which then allows bacteria to flourish in the teeth and gums. It's not just bad oral hygiene.
P2P was the old meth in the 70s. That was also the kind that various military's used during the 40s-50s. After it was outlawed, thats when the ephedrine-meth came into the picture and you had guys making it from cold nasal sprays in the 80s/early 90s. Those kinds of nasal sprays were outlawed so then they figured out you could extract it from cold nasal pills.
Now people are just buying everything from clandestine Chinese chemical vendors online. Literally boomer tweakers basically dark webbing even tho it's probably not even that deep to buy the shit this way. In personal experience it was absolutely effortless to buy alprazolam powder fentanyl powder and others (for science, right?) etc
But still wasnt such a harsh recipe most crank had a few ingredients vs cartel p2p
I know a guy, he was a teacher. Nice guy. He had cancer and a special needs kid and all the bills started piling up. Anyway, long story short, the meth he makes is a helluva drug!
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Hello walter
cool story bro......make it up all by yourself lol
I did my psychiatry residency at LAC+USC hospital from 2012-2017. If you want to know more about what the contemporary “face of meth” looks like, talk to literally any of the psychiatrists there. Meth psychosis was probably 2/3rds of what we saw in the ER on a daily basis.
I witnessed this first hand with my fiance. Nothing I said or showed her or gave her to read would get through to her. She thought I was conspiring with others to get her to commit suicide,she thought people were trying to kill her,thought her family was involved,thought the police abducted and tortured her,when in fact she was simply arrested. She told me she saw the devil walking down the street,said he was 12 feet tall. Stole my handgun had to call police on her. Barricaded me out of our home for a week. Sad thing is before this started she carried a 3.98 grade point average in a paralegal program,had a great future ahead of her. Now that is all thrown away and a waisted 3 years and I had to leave. It's a disgusting and frightening thing to witness.
@@paulrichmond8392 How much crime we're seeing is caused by drugs ... you think?
@@bglynch3176 I imagine it is a major contributor to crimes,yes.
This is a hard fact. The meth now will completely melt your mind, body and soul. It's garbage and will take you 👇 DOWN. Very sad. People deserve and need better alternatives.
Ty Dr. for your insight!
Most people with Meth psychosis are almost certain to have other risk factors that lead to mental heath issues. It could be the meth triggers these risk factors but it's likely they were already at risk of mental health problems. I know this because I know people that never even smoked a joint with schizophrenia, And I know people like myself for everyday meth users that use it like an energy drink or coffee, once in the morning and once after work and I'm as normal as can be. Good Job nice house pos car. I think most of what he's saying is coming from the worst side of meth and can't be attributed to the drug alone.
I'm not sure what people are talking bout. I never got scared , never was homeless , had a job an new car always working never enclosed into my own world its all about how you did it. I never let it control me an I did it for 5 years. I slept every night I ate at end of day. I did it from waking up an did it on breaks at work. It's weak minded no will power people that would lose themselves in it. Don't mean that as a rude comment but you have to be in control. I was. Today I'm still working still new car an clean 1 an half year now
exactly ... not what you Do, it's HOW you do it. .
Both y'all tweakers are spun out and right now. 😂 "I'm a professional tweaker." Gtfo.
Yea but from my experience only 95% of users are like you. This guy is talking about the 5% that DO have other issues and can't handle their drugs.
I can sleep and eat on that shit but I definitely sleep less and eat less than usual. And yeah it's not one hit and it becomes the only thing I care about or the only way I feel happy. I'm not physically addicted. I don't use every day. But every time I get clean I relapse at random so far so IDK man you can look down on people as weak minded but it literally affects different people differently.
Don't know who this "expert" is, but his characterization that the new meth is different from the previous version and is used for different reasons with different effects is flat out wrong. I was in the middle of a meth epidemic in the 2000's in one of hotbeds. Worked with meth addicts everyday. It was frequently used by middle class laborers to keep them going. Was rarely used in my area for parties and the paranoia and withdrawing absolutely occured back then.
IMHO he meant how the ingredients have dramatically changed alongside the cost has become cheaper which changed different effects as opposed to back in the day...
U know dats right
The truth about drugs is heartbreaking. Seeing my cousin and his partner acting the way they did and slowly lose their mind was sad. I was blind to it as a kid but we don’t all start off as crazy homeless people. It’s just our community and behavior to survive that makes us change as people. I’d hope that we could make better decisions as people and our community and culture change as our choices do.
Meth doesn't give rise those symptoms.... No sleep in combo with no food or water is what causes all that craziness.... You could do dope all day, but if you sleep and eat you will be fine mentally...
Pretty much... u stay up for 3 days and u start seeing shadows in the side of ur vision and when it wear off 3 days no sleep u feel like crap... you don't even get withdrawls from it... I get withdrawls from having sex for 12 hours on it.. I only do meth to fuck for hours not do meth to do meth lol
It is disgusting to think people would destroy another person for the love of money. Ok, yeah, spoke without thinking.. look at the American government.
The ice age hit in about 2004 in Kansas and I was in it and it was scary. Everyone went nuts when it switched
It began in Missouri & Kansas around 1994 and became a commonly used drug by 1999. In 2005 the U.S. banned the sale of ephedrine and in 2006 heavily restricted the sale of pseudoephedrine. Both of those substances are major precursors in the synthesis methods used by rural downhome clandestine meth labs. So with ephedrine being illegal buy or posssess in the U.S. and pseudoephedrine's sales strictly monitored by 2006 alot of the larger scale Missouri & Kansas Meth Labs were no longer financially viable.
💯 same in the midsouth
That's because the government banned and confiscated all the real p2p. The stuff is locked up, guarded (and inventoried) better than the Whitehouse.
Tx 02-07-color changing,baby blue,glass etc ephedrine sht.....now its bags of neo crystalphrenia psychosis sht in 1 session......horrific ,glad Im sober since 08
Ephedrine meth was WAY BETTER than the new P2P meth!!
Wish they could go back to ephedrine meth!!
Within the first 1 min
I can tell that this is informative and not sensationalizing/using it to be edgy
Very good work MR
Emma you are awesome
I knew the exact oposite. P2P dope was then norm back in the seventies and 80 and we heard that exact same scaremongering when they switched to Pseudoephdrine process. They are the same damn thing and you are being fed scare propaganda.
Am I the only one that has had hugely positive life changes since using meth? I’ve found passion through music and guitar and singing since starting meth 3 years ago. People also tell me I’ve changed in positive ways such as my behaviour and how I carry myself and socialise, I’m guessing I must have ADHD and the meth has been treating it?
It doesn’t matter which precursor you use, it’s still methamphetamine
That sounds about right for the Midwest, 2016 to 2017. I had already stopped doing heroin by then, but started hearing about more and more people doing meth. It wasn’t very common until then. I’m glad I got out of that life when I did because I missed most of the fentanyl additives. The use of illicit fentanyl is a huge problem. I know at least 5 people who have died this year after relapsing.
Glad to hear you got off the smack.
I'm so grateful to not be chasing that shit esp. now given the fent and tranq that's out there.
I don't even know if one can find just regular H anymore.
I know some people here in Chicago that are into 'coke', and last time I saw it, I had to explain to them that what they were doing wasn't anywhere near cocaine, and that it tasted (yes, I put a smidge on my tongue) and that it was probably Lidocaine and meth plus god knows what.
We just had 5 or 6 dudes hit the floor at a local bar recently. I'm not sure if anyone died, but all were taken to hospital via ambulance and a couple were in the ICU.
Can you imagine being strung out and the only thing avail was fent and then not knowing if there was tranq or not.
Yes, its a silent war, and how could it be anything else? some big organization is killing off a mass of Americans and doctors don't care to know what they are up to? Seems this way my Doctors got me hooked and don't know anything about what they Prescribe. The reason why pharmacies are running out meth is because they can't tell you it's going to kill you. not 100% sure but what else to go figure. @@stringlarson1247
I heard about meth in the Midwest back in the early 90's Sioux falls SD to be exact. It was not uncommon by any means. I believe around the same time the Queen of meth was riding to her fame. Don't remember her actual name but there is a documentary about her. If I recall right she was related to Rosanna Barr's husband
I had no idea that this was the case but I guess it's analogues to safrole being banned and chemists started using anisol instead of safrole and instead created PMA/PMMA, which killed many people I am a drug user and my life is less safe because people say you shouldn't be doing this or that yet tomorrow I must have a blood test and an ultrasound because I switched to alcohol. I'll always be able to drink alcohol and it will kill me within a few years. pisses me off to hear things like this when the biggest killer of young men in europe is alcohol.
Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs. Drinking too much can kill you. If my you stop drinking suddenly it can kill you. Are you still with us? Please get help and don't die. Your life is sacred, too.
As Kenneth Copeland would say: "confess that meth" 😝
🤔🤔🤔hes right about them changing the "recipe" and he's right about the price of it dropping. A quarter ounce (7grams or 2 eight balls) for it used to cost like $300+/- for the lower quality stuff, but for like $450+/- you could get the really good quality. And then BOOM one day it was like $70-$100 for a quarter ounce. But the quality also dropped and when the pandemic hit and nobody was working but still getting financial assistance
and/or unemployment for some reason the quality still sucked but prices went through the damn roof. One thing I noticed that changed in people with the lower quality is how 🤔🤔childish or ignorant and almost narcissistic people started behaving. And less active it started making people and also procrastination started to become one of their better qualities. And I swear it makes people gain weight instead of losing it nowadays. I stopped using it a few years ago because I had to but I still hang out with people who use it i just will smoke weed when im around them....which ends up making them want to get stoned instead of try to get high off of speed so it works out nicely. I don't do drama or stupidity so if its starts up i just leave some weed for whomever wants to smoke and go home.
You hit that shit' right on the head, that shit' ain't getting stronger it's quality has dropped big time and your definitely right about procrastination being on the rise, I never seen so many stuck people in my life, nobody getting anything done and yah what happened to the weight loss? I see people eating WHILE there doing it, definitely low low quality and as for the paranoia I believe is more from lack of sleep and/or already in people's heads just some more than others, meaning that if someone's tripping they most likely trip regardless of the quality but that's just my opinion, but imo this author is a little bit off on his facts on the get down on this new meth, he doesn't even say it right. Just stating my thoughts on it all.
@@lonndawgh2274 RIGHT!!😁👍👍👍
what do you think about weed?
I noticed around 2004-2006 my weed highs started to change I went from happy and hungry to depressed and not hungry. like maybe new recipe or chemicals in weed triggered something in my brain that causes me to get paranoid and depressed everytime I smoke. dabs. oil make it only worse.
so you think Marijuana growers or cartels started adding more chemicals to grow more robust plants but lowering its quality?
So true. I was going to also comment on the fact he doesn't pronounce it right. I already left my super long comment down below stating more in depth as to what this shit is as it's no longer methamphetamine. To know more, look for my other comment more toward the very top of the comment section. People including meth addicts have a lot to learn.
it cost $100 a qtr oz 7 g back in 74 i tried it a couple times. i dont think i would trust the stuff today.
I think we need an "is" in the title
no, drop "than ever" and we good
Let's not quibble bro lol it's a "real" issue as Peterson would say ...
it's African American vernacular what are you a raaaacist or something
They forgot… because of all the meth.
@@Grassy_Gnoll no doubt
Don't forget it frys your brain like an egg.
Right bro
It's the lack of sleep that frys ur brain... the meth actually makes you smarter... but when u start staying up for 3 days and start seeing shadows moving in the side of ur vision....
@@johnnyforz the meth makes you smarter
This makes so much sense. I quit meth because I started to notice very scary side effects like very vivid hallucinations. My “friend” physically attacked me a couple of times. It was never anything close to that back in the day.
I cook meth in my home amphetamine laboratory and methamphetamine is interesting and fun, but I lack a graceful girl with me during cooking because it takes some time
Facts.
@@nataliepieluch5482 Yes
@@WaelG-bp9xh
Whoa! That impatient biotch! 😂
60 yr.s old and have found it interesting too!🧐🤪👍
the tent equivalency is disgusting. a tent makes sense if you don't have a roof over your head. equating homeless tents to meth renders this guy's entire dialogue into a joke.
Mushrooms and love can free anyone from drug addiction.
True, but one of those seems impossible to find nowadays.
It's a chemical door that evil opens to attack and terrify a person's soul
I been using meth since 2018 and I am 59.
When I use I'm not like people who are tweakers
I always knew that I had AHDA, but when I use crystal it changes my way I am.
I have no problem with stopping and I don't crave it and I am completely different type of person.
I don't get depressed or anxiety and I use it on a daily basis since 2018
You just ain't met the right supplier yet. I got ADD and ADHD as well so ppl don't even know I'm on it. But eventually overtime as with anything else, it will either catch up to you or you'll find what your looking for.
My advice to you, even tho your content with using, if you can walk away as easy as you say you can, I'd advise that you RUN and count your blessings.
It wont kill you but depression will find you and introduce you to daily suicidal thought binges
🙏🙏🙏
Thankful I am free from it . Praying for others 🙏🙏🙏
I have noticed that bad coke is the same way, feeling very socially introverted and paranoid as opposed to happy and chatty, probably because it's cut with cheap p2p meth.
If the meth is having different effects that's because it's got other psychoactive impurities in the product, ie it's "dirty", or it's a factor of it's mix of D-methamphetamine and L-methampetamine. D-methamphetamine is the one preferred by users.
I’d agree… especially when the previous impurity was chiefly ephedrine/pseudo and now it can be any number of things depending on the p2p production and reduction methods… scary shit.
racemic trash...
Definitely the L-amphetamine I've had both there's still good meth hard to find but definitely the L-amphetamine causing the problems cause I can use D-amphetamine responsible no side effects like racing heart and high blood pressure but that racemic meth has you paranoid and jittery and doesn't make you horny very much
It have rats killer floor cleaner metal cleaners even gasoline
I remember when meth hit my town. I was lucky not to try it because I saw what it was doing to my friends. It made them all boring. All they ever wanted to do was get high so I had to stay away from them.
yeah man it made funny people boring and serious. I hated it
Glad you decided to stay away from that crap. Good on you.
@@jrno93don't know what u talking bout , I've seen some pretty comical shit . That's on a individual level. Your speaking Abt generalized...no I've seen it all. That was them
After three decades and up to this very moment, I'm an everyday user......
I have a successful job, my focus is sharp, and I'm in excellent health, etc.....
I have yet to experience paranoia, schizophrenia, and to say the least, being socially refrained....
It's in the way addicts use this substance...
If an addict inoculates, then over a period of time this addict will begin experiencing the said symptoms which will progressively get worse..
I chose not to use the syringe.
...ignorance really is bliss.
Yes that is correct ..first hand understanding of this as well..I concur
Not always true
I used to tour in the music biz. I did a lot of drugs. Pretty much all of them I do street outreach. Not out of some social debt but because I live central and was really pissed off that I was finding children, freezing, overdosing and worse in my back alley. The meth is really bad but the fact that every sample I've tested in 8 months tests positive for fentanyl.
I won't rant... people do drugs. Our kids do drugs... Don't be paranoid, definitely do not feel or cause shame look after each other and look after OUR kids.
THE MOST IMPORTANT..
Treat every kid on the street the way you would hope someone would treat your child if they were in the same situation.
DEFEND THEM FROM PREDATION AND BE PATIENT
Every street kid is reticent of kindness from elders and for damn good reason. Meet em where they are and meet em often
Anybody reading this; don't judge, don't shame, be kind.
Broken people don't have to stay that way. 🖤🖤🖤
Agree, people who are down are not usually sleazy people but if they aren't helped, they will get antisocial. So treat people kindly even if they're currently down, they will find the goodness in themselves if people show goodness for them
Exactly
They're still human. They deserve respect. Addiction is an illness. Withdrawal is an experience of sickness. These people need help.
I hope everyone finds the help they need.
I've both used and produced the substance I don't understand how a chemical can be different than the exact same chemical the only way that it can be worse is if the chemical adaultrents or other chemicals in the process are not being converted very well and still being left over in the in the junk
It's fear mongering
If you'd bothered to watch the entire video, THAT VERY POINT IS MADE DERP DERP DERP DERP.
@@oxman5571 no all he said was they switched from different starting chemicals they switched from ephedrine to P2P and by all accounts P2P should actually be a cleaner cook
@@oxman5571 he also said it has different psychological and physiological effects on the body which is absolutely impossible if we're dealing with the same molecule
P2P produces 2 types of meth molecules (L and D) simultaneously. One is basically junk and only increases heart rate, but is hard to separate from the other.
Thank you for covering the subject
Just can't get good meth anymore
Right? None of the comments are even slightly similar to what I’ve experienced from it lately as opposed to like 7/8 years ago. I agree that it’s not as good anymore, but the effects it still has are those that can be used positively (imo) eg focus and prolonged wakefulness yet at the same time I can totally eat a huge meal and sleep a full 8hrs?? I’m battling to understand
Me too I been sleeping alot and use everyday. I thought it was cut. I quit but hurt so bad I have to do it again
Its still around just gotta kno somebody w enlightenment.......directions.
Lost a couple years of my life to meth - I feel really bad for anyone still stuck on it
Present day meth cooks uses a P2P chemical synthesis method rather than the ephedra method ( which is plant based) and some can isolate the dextro isomer which is more active in the brain, thus an over dose manifests as psychosis. The levo isomer is more active on the cardio vascular system with an “overdose” manifesting as a heart attack and extreme blood pressure.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
your kind of right, except its actually the PNS stimulation from the levo isomer that would be more responceable for anxiaty, and paranoia, combined with sleep deprivation.
The PNS carries alot of responsibility in fight or flight response AND most importantly lasts longer than the CNS stimulation that produces the largely mental effects. Meaning someone redoseing can be "accumulateing" PNS stimulation which will start manifesting itself as "tweaking" then anxiaty, paranoia, and eventually they go off the rails
@@therideneverends1697 Maybe you can answer this. Seems to me its making everyone's feet, ankles & calves swell, at first thought it was maybe age,time spent on feet or never laying either standing or sitting, but as time goes on maybe it's just a new side effect of the new recipe.
Not sure if you have seen the question to ride never ends, but curious if you had any input on that, swelling of lower legs & feet seems to be the new recipe maybe?
@@martyturpen4535 that would lead me to think sloppy synthesis is resulting in disproportionate ratios of levo to dextro isomers.
the Levo isomer is responsible for predominantly circulatory effects due to its vaso constriction, in small amounts its useful and sold as a decongestant. But it sticks in the system for a long time and with recreational use can accumulate and cause circulation problems like you mentioned.
So if i had to guess, whoever's making the stuff is doing a bad job because meth should be the least vasoconstrictive of the amphetamine drug class compared to amphetamine, biphetamine or dextroamphetamine. OR they are not "washing" their product after production, methamphetamine produced for ADHD treatment in a professional setting has an additional step after synthesis thats used to clean off the catalysts and contaminants left behind from the reduction process. For P2p Production some of those leftovers could be quite nasty. compared to ephedrine reduction which would just have lingering ammonia and lithium.
The only other thing that could come to mind is someones cutting it with the L-Methamphetamine from decongestants but i dont see why they would bother considering the cost, cant imagine someone cutting open 10 doller inhalers to get 250MG of padding material would cost less than the wholesale price of cartel produced product.
@@martyturpen4535My feet particularly the top of my foot at the base of my toes. I got it to go away by drinking less water and taking diuretics, but would not recommend this for obvious reasons. I have been very sedentary for the past year and a half, so that doesn't help I'm sure, but considering I was extremely active before then makes me think P2P was the catalyst for my current state.
I'm in the process of trying to quit but can't seem to make it past 48 hrs when the lethargy and despair starts to hit its peak.
I got off suboxone(10 years uninterrupted) 3 years ago, so I know Im capable of putting this shit down too. There isn't another drug that comes close to the shit show of a suboxone detox, it's looooong and brutal.
This guy really knows what he's talking about, respect brother
I’ve lived all my life in Baltimore, which for a while was (and maybe still is) known as the heroin capital of the US or at least the east coast. I used heroin regularly from ’04-’06. Meth was very hard to find and I only used it twice I think, but I remember thinking that if it had been more readily available, I would’ve definitely used it regularly.
Glad you escape from it
Yep,it's all garbage,I battle meth addiction but I use less than any other drug I don't get schizo,or paranoid
Now heroin can't be found in this area. It's pressed fentanyl with xylozine. Pure garbage. I'll just use morphine. I've had crank twice no regrets. Don't know or don't want to know about the so called super meth. I'm fine smoking kiwi herb and some morphine. Fuxx that fentanyl garbage that's killed so many. A cheap ass deal we got here now.
Drugs are just death period 😢😢😢
Makes them extremely evil 😈 demons
People also need to remember that many other things contribute and get overlooked with psychosis. Like being up for 5 days in a row with no water and a half a pop tart doing pointless crazy shit
Yassssss😂😅 what 👆 he said!!!!!
Pointless crazy shit is exactly right 😵💫
P2p has been around since the 80s
All I have to say is I don't know how people can't handle themselves on meth I'm just now getting clean after 7 years of daily use and I'm about a month without any but still I never once had a issue other than the normal pushing loved ones away because I loved drugs more at the time so honestly I think people need to learn how to control themselves and not let the drug control them
Very ignorant of you. I get it, I can be a functioning addict as well, but some people literally CANNOT be a functioning addict and it’s not because they are weaker, or maybe it is, but it’s not something they can change, they are just unable to be a functioning addict, and their only options are complete sobriety OR complete ruin.
Average person doesn't even know that a good portion of the economy is powered by amphetamines. SO many people use meth to cope with unrealistic work schedules, deadlines, etc. From truck drivers to office workers, everyone does it. I used to take Adderall for the night shift myself.
Buddy here is flat wrong lol It's been meth in New England for decades, I was intimately aware of it's presence in NYC, Jersey, and Boston since the late 90's/early 00's, and that Mexican cartel meth most definitely made it to the East Coast just to a much lesser degree cause so much is homegrown out this way and every other person knows how to shake n bake even if they don't use or sling. Idk where he gets this from but anybody in the streets knows better and so does law enforcement. Dudes were getting jacked for crystal since I'm a jit.
It's a different kind of meth
As a famous movie quote stated: " A man has got to know his limitations"
Harry!
Moderation is respecting yourself. Once out of control there is no longer a high.
Don't blame drugs blame people for being irresponsible.
It’s that blue Walter White 🧊
Did G funk for 8 year's took my last hit in 2010 I always wanted it when I was drinking
Meth isn’t that bad in responsible doses. It has a very high LD/50 and is very cheap so some users use ridiculously high doses which is where the real problems come
Narcotics Anonymous
@@allensupcycle1958 ..... Fast
I remember when back in the days it use to be so expensive more thN gold and cocaine
I remember doing some in the 90s and me and my freinds would talk all night and fall asleep the next day...this stuff from i hear today is crazy stuff
P2P is actually the old school biker meth… Hank taught me that over a decade ago on Breaking Bad.
they called it, "Crank"
Yah this guy's got it a little confused
I have a nephew who is suffering from acute methamphetamine psychosis and is missing right now.
methamphetamine is methamphetamine regardless of how it is synthesized. the end chemical, after all those different reactions, is methamphetamine.
any amphetamine, whether pharmaceutical grade or something made on the street will always cause paranoia, hallucinations, and odd behavior with prolonged use. always. the brain cannot handle that amount of dopamine without causing the person to become psychotic.
all antipsychotic medications effect the level of dopamine available to the synaptic cleft, whether through inhibiting release or synthesis, or increasing reuptake.
the fact this new meth has a different set of precursor chemicals is irrelevant, especially if the cook knows what he is doing. even then it still doesn't matter much.
dopamine in large sustained quantities is always bad.
I'd also like to be petty and point out the word ends with an "e" not a hard "m"
I also love (not being sarcastic) how he points out that legalizing marijuana has harmed the cartel.
if you're worried about what's in the meth, LEGALIZE AND REGULATE IT. people are going to do it regardless. why not cut violent, murderous enterprises down at the knees while offering safer versions of drugs? money. that's why. it's way more profitable for certain groups in the United States to keep drugs illegal, chief among them is the Judiciary branch and it's prison industrial complex.
Well you're the only smart one that I've seen comments on this..,...
My ex's mom was on medical-grade amphetamines and it's just a excuse to fail drug test.....
Look if it ain't over 97 percent thanking your dealer and you score a 99 percent classed meth then don't worry be happy
I get the point dude is trying to make about tents being nice for people tweaked out. But... tents are shelter and I would say that is the overwhelming reason homeless use tents. Tweaked or not shelter is shelter.
Did you know "Starbucks" has a new coffee called "Liquid Meth". Twice the kick and twice as strong.
They have tea shops all around SC. I haven't tried it, but damn people are jacked up from it and believe me all the moms are up there at 9am to get that tea. I'm right outside of Charleston, Summerville SC. People are moving here to get away from drugs. I've lived here most my life and the drugs are bad here.
The fact is that the goog ole boy system runs deep, and corruption is bad.
I'd like to discuss this with Sam, I have been observing the changes in the speed market for 40 years, the pseudoephedrine speed was the replacement for P2p speed that was made in Oregon and Washington until the early 90's the Water and Glass type ephedra started to show up and it changed the culture. folks stopped dismantling things, Frankenstein-ing them back together, or Tweaking it was called. the Glass had no rush but you stayed up for days there was a sexual obsession that came with it and a can not turn your head far enough to catch em paranoia that feeds itself h your soul. so now the Mexicans are playing with P2p this will get real crazy omg. glad I will get to sit this one out. I would like to contact sam Q
Methamphetamine has the same effect no matter if it's ephedrine or P2P as long as it is correctly synthesized. Methamphetamine is Desoxyepedrine HCl, period. This may be a matter of purity but the end product is the same.
Now we are going to get more real massive problems with these users. Good luck for stoping the other method.
Exactly why all hard drugs should be legalized and regulated.
Provide a safe supply of drugs to addicts and put focus on mental health and recovery instead of criminality.
It's so dangerous it makes you forget the Is
Fantastic Interview. Really explains a lot.
So the restriction and regulation of drugs led to worse drugs and broader use. Thanks.
Sudafed is made from pseudoephedrine, not ephedrine. The major factor in the meth epidemic is it is being smoked, whereas it used to be snorted, swallowed, and injected. I never even heard of "ice" until I moved to Hawaii in 91. Smoking ice was huge there a d I believe that is where it started in the US.
I live Hawaii all my life you are correct 😢
What island?
pseudoephedrine, not ephedrine, they are almost identical structurally
Exactly what I said.
It's still being snorted, boofed, and banged plenty I promise.
As usual the government's effort to prohibit illegal drugs has made things even worse. I'm not saying ephedra meth is good for you but P2P/Shake and bake has even worse potential consequences.
I mean awesome for trying but yea ive used meth and been around people "tweaking out". This gives me that type of vibes. Someone who just blabbers on and on about some video they watched on youtube and now they feel like they cracked the code on it lol
Im boutta pack a bowl right now🫠 the paranoia helps me make beats but all my music always have a slight horror movie vibe to according to what my friends n family tell me. I personally love it. I used to be homeless and yes, this man is correct i swear to God after a couple nights being up u would start seeing dead people. I knew a lot of schizophrenic users it was very hard to prove to them that i wasnt a demon lmao wut do u say "im not a demon" thats what a demon would say lmaoo. Being educated on psychosis, human behaviors and the Holy Bible as well as shamanic eastern spirituality and native american culture, im able to avoid these negative effects. The ego inflation still gets me sometimes tho i try my best to stay humble. It is serious tho no matter how smart u think u are ur gonna be effected in ways u dont even know until ur smoking carpet dope under a bridge with other users talking to dead ppl😂 tread carefully
Man there isn’t too many like us. The meth now sucks, maybe 5-6 years ago or so it was fantastic. Regardless, I liked that start of 60+ hour period where you are in a different state of mind. Its crazy, scary, fun, horribly awesome always different but the same experiences. Sometimes when you can balance it hours right, I call it a frequency, somehow you able to tap into things that are actually there and sometimes you think it’s there because it’s all in your mind and not real or is it? But then again what you believe becomes reality and reality is a fact at that time in your brain. Whether your subconscious is taking over 10 times than normal or whatever the case may be it takes no less than 60+hours of no sleep to achieve that experience. And by no means am I encouraging it to others or pushing it as myself and you can vouch, do not try this! This is not a good idea for 99.9% of the people out there.
@@jamiethomas3306Majority of people are wimps , are already mentally ill or white trash . They got no business doing that drug , especially banging it. That being said , my opinion , alcohol ain't no worse . You can only do so much dope in your lifetime and at that point the dope really loses it's special effects and it really is not much more than a case of beer for level of effect.
Took what i thought was mdma. Yes, shame on me for not testing. It was meth and I was geeked for 3 days. After the first day I was so paranoid because I thought I fucked up my brain. Horrible experience, always test your stuff even if it's constantly from the same source. Those 3 days were borderline terrifying.
Test how?
@macbird-lt8de look it up
MDMA will come up as meth . Molly MDMA is one molecule different
@@levihirsch9523 You can make MDMA, from the P2P method.
He's right though. Been clean since 2015, but meth is the psychological nightmare drug. I've seen shit that would make you piss your pants from meth. It's a horrible drug that the world would be better without. Full stop. Opiates are the physical nightmare, amphetamines are the psych nightmare.
The way he just seamlessly associated meth use with homelessness makes me annoyed. Homelessness has a ton of systemic causes that have nothing to do with meth use.
Totally agree with you, don't go straight from using meth to being homeless and I'm sure that it has caused some to be homeless and other factors are involved he failed to mention.
Here is the thing I was homeless for 5 long winters I spent the majority of my homeless career in Tacoma Washington area but I have been homeless throughout the entire United States from Florida to Atlantic City to Vegas I've seen it all some of the biggest cities in the US and in my specific situation I became homeless before I started using and with nowhere to sleep and nothing to eat and meth on every corner it was easier to score a bag of meth than it was to get a bag of potato chips and that's the god honest truth so if you want to stop the drug use on the streets first let's start with give us somewhere to sleep and something to eat because if we're hungry and we ain't got nowhere to lay down what the fuck we might as well get high right thank God for my parents who were able to forgive me for being such a liar and a deceiving son and I was able to move on from this part of my life but I will never forget it and I won't regret it and humbled me and I think everyone should have to experience homelessness maybe then they might have a little bit more love a little bit more understanding
He's exactly right about the symptoms of this new meth vs pre-2012 are totally opposite. I am an addict and relapse every few years to self medicate and every time I go absolutely insane and damn near ends my life. I needed someone to clarify what was going on with the quality of the new meth because I kept telling myself that maybe this time I won't go crazy and will handle it well. I wasn't sure why I've been having such negative symptoms the last few relapses but now I understand why. There's no avoiding the insanity even if the initial high is very good upon ingesting. But within a few hours the anxiety and tension headaches start and in 2 days you are totally destroyed.
Don't ever let them win, you won the war you should be very proud n thank you!
In Missouri now meth is everywhere, in every town, no matter how small. Independence, which was the meth capital of the world, 30 years ago, has close to 10,000 homeless people. That's alarming even in a suburb of Kansas City with 150,000+ population. The cost of living here is higher than in Omaha or Fayetteville/Bentonville, Arkansas, but it's perhaps 75% cheaper than in Dallas, Chicago, Los Angeles or Houston. When we have that many meth zombies in Harry Truman's home town in the heart of America, we are in deep, deep trouble with meth.
Malta Bend, Slater, Waverly and other river towns of 300-1,800 people have houses that are so cheap they're basically available in many cases for under $10,000. We should not have burglaries, carjackings, armed robberies and homelessness in Lexington, Missouri.
It's no longer a game, because every town in America will have zombies on the loose very soon. They will kill you in psychotic mental states. Much of the political violence and random acts of mass shootings are actually fueled by this drug.
Goverment agenda
I am in independence. Wgat yiu say is true a
But the chemist in that huge drug lab scandal in Massachusetts was using meth in the early 2000's? ????? It's getting more widely used as of 2018, sure, but it's been in New England much longer than that.
He's speaking specifically of Mexican versions. They're was a huge meth lab in the South End of Boston busted in 2008, So I too questioned that timeline.
@@kevinmackfurniture I must have missed that part, god damn. Several minutes of skimming through the comments didn't help lol
So is he saying that legalizing a drug makes it harder to obtain/sell illegally? Or just sometimes? Hospitals use some heavy drugs legally and we still have a market for those drugs illegally. So legalizing cannabis made less illegal sales of cannabis but we can’t make meth recreational so how can we legalize it in a way to make it regulated enough to decrease illegal trafficking?
Outstanding interview. I just want to compliment you on the sheer quality of it.
Not “sheer” the title is poorly worded. That’s the fist thing people see…. right off the bat.
@@mercoid What about the title is poorly worded?
The quality of the interview, or the meth?
A family member of mind has been using since I was in the 2nd grade(30ish years ago). And because of this, I will never use drugs in my life. Sad but true.
Sad that he ruined it for you.
@@macbird-lt8de well he’s dead now so…
I find the new way has greatly improved the drug honestly. It used to be too tweaky and you couldn't focus. Now you're spot on and not tired. Sadly, it's not used properly by most. I'm not recommending it but I wanted to at least give an opinion from the other side of the debate.
Drugs like meth are incredibly difficult to be used "properly". Its not standardized and the effects are much more extreme and long lasting than say powder coke. That said, it should be decriminalized.
What are you smoking lol
The new shit is terrible , being stuck sitting doing nothing for hours with the worst brain fog there is and then after a few hours of not having a hoot a person just feels literally sick until they smoke more. Also it seems like it increases hunger annoyingly
The old stuff made life great with max creativity &ideas gave a person drive to be productive and live life. Compared to todays stuff the old stuff improved your life if you were smart, now it just has the opposite effects. And it didn’t make you sick