== 🕐 Time Stamps - Cut to the action 🕕 == 00:00 - Ring circuit test 00:09 - Continuity of a ring final circuit 00:51 - Stage 1 - end to end test - r1, rn, r2 in ohms 02:19 - CPC r2 is 1.5 mm2 proving 1.67 times greater than r1 and rn 03:49 - Stage 2 - opposite line to opposite neutral (figure of 8) 04:20 - Calculations for R1 + Rn 05:05 - Testing at our fuse connection unit on our ring final circuit 06:16 - Testing at every socket outlet during stage 2 07:47 - Contact cleaner to improve the electrical connection 08:55 - Stage 3 - opposite line to opposite CPC (figure of 8) 09:05 - Calculations for R1 + Rn 09:30 - Testing at our fuse connection unit on our ring final circuit 09:54 - Visual polarity of the fuse connection unit (fuse spur) 10:41 - Testing at every socket outlet during stage 3 12:45 - Completing the test paperwork for our ring final circuit test
Fantastic video, straight forward explanation and easy to follow. I had been struggling to understand it out of a book but seeing it in practice is helpful.
Hi Guys. Just wanted to say thanks very much for all the help your video tutorials have been. I am just after achieving my 2391 and your videos and explanations were a massive help to me. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!
amazing guys wish you best of luck i know your channel for some time and it is amazing you took this guy on and producing to me even better more clearer tutorials again keep on thanks for all your hard work
Something you could add... if when you do the R1+R2 after doing the R1+Rn, if the switch doesn't switch off the second time round, it would have meant (pending on other tests) that it is highly likely that the switches are double pole and only the neutral pole was switching off
Taking the resistance from the sockets when the whole ring is one continuous conductor made into a loop. The L & N in the socket may be at opposite ends to the loop. That is, if the loop is 100 metres long, the L & N in the socket will be 50 metres apart on the one and same loop. So the measurement is right around the loop? Hence a reading of 0.5.
Hi, A few (maybe silly) questions please as I've never done testing before, just learning now. - Do I need to disconnect everything from the sockets before testing? - Do I need to switch ON or OFF the sockets each? - What if there is fused spur on the ring? My boiler is on the ring of the living room sockets. What should I do with it? Many thanks for your answer in advance!
These guys are quite selfless. They probably earn less as a tutor delivering the gold standard than working out in the field on the tools. The college looks cool and if it wasn't for distance I would be wanting to do my 2396-01 here.
I am a bit confused as a new student bit at the end of the test in front of the white board with Marcus, you made the note as r2 1.67 i thought that was spouse to be cpc end to end reading why did u put there 1.67 as r2? thanx
Are the readings coming down because you've sprayed the plug top and loosened the contacts or just because the liquid is reducing the resistance in the contacts momunterely as it is aiding the flow of current with the plug top being wet ? Just a thought.
I noticed Marcus used the tips of the crocs when connecting to the conductors, my cps assessor has questioned me twice on consecutive visits how I personally carry this out, if I use the tips he says the spring end gives a better connection and visa-versa on another visit, personally I don't think it matters so long as the contact is good, what is your opinion?
Fantastic video, I’m not an electrician, both yourself and JW state on the figure of eight test between the line and cpc should be higher overall due to the thinner cpc but all substantially the same , but the on site guide suggests increase or decrease measurements depending where you are on the circuit?
The on site guide is correct. I tried explaining this to my tutor and he didn't accept it. When you draw it out it makes perfect sense. (r1+r2) / 4 works when you're half way around the ring. As you move along, you will have more cpc on one leg and more line on the other. So the overall resistance decreases as you move towards the ends of the ring
you said in the AM2S theres a fuse spur which goes to a outside socket,when testing at the fuse spur could you not put your probes onto the load side of the spur and click the switch to confirm polarity as well and then test the outside socket like normal ?
On a ring you can only spur one and if you want another one you need an fcu. This is because you could potentially draw more than 26amps correct? However, with radial circuits does this reg come into place because before you can draw more than 26amps the 16a mob should trip correct?
Thanks for the video gentlemen. It is really helpful to so eone like me who is very interested in electrical installation and hoping to get into this line of work as well as my plumbing and heating. Seems like it is just as expensive as plumbing with the tools and calibration etc with flue gas analysers and multifunction testers. Is it better, cheaper togo for individual testers or better for the multi function? thanks again
also you havent said anything about nulling the resistance of the leads when you used the plug in tester,is this something you need to do or not for the AM2S?
Hi Just came cross job i tested at CU and found r1 higher than rn on 2.5mm cable i didn't have time to investigate can you please advise im going back next week. Thanks
Rewireble polsalin circuit fuses haven't seen them for a good view year's, and the earth conductor wrapped up like. A bandege with green and yellow Pvc tape bit shoddy.
Hi Gsh electrical currently am on second year ( actually 3rd gear ) covid 19 messed up every my learning. Questions how to remember to do ring circuit in order
Joining the opposite L and N in the connector block makes one long single conductor joined at the ends. A loop. I don't think that was mentioned. Could be wrong.
@@GSHElectrical I thought so but I was told it has to be at the board so that the tester won't pick up any parallel paths from other earths or neutrals?
can anyone link me to the earlier learners video they keep talking about? I'm still early days and I'm a little too dumb right now to understand everything in this one. Thanks!
@@GSHElectrical Your writings still appears .If all the subtitles are removed then people will benefit more. I am doing Inspection and testing at trade skills for you.I am resitting the exam only the practical. I need to master the practical
Your video are more educational than what I learnt in college. Thank you so very much for all your efforts and documentation.
This video has definitely been some help. As an adult learner these are just what I need. The more the merrier, keep them coming.
Thanks for the support 🦾
Same. Tremendous videos and very well presented
Can tell marcus has spent time with you Gaz. His explanations and process is just as clear and professional
You 2 guys are a super training team. You cover all the important details. Thank you very much.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and watch 👍🏻
== 🕐 Time Stamps - Cut to the action 🕕 ==
00:00 - Ring circuit test
00:09 - Continuity of a ring final circuit
00:51 - Stage 1 - end to end test - r1, rn, r2 in ohms
02:19 - CPC r2 is 1.5 mm2 proving 1.67 times greater than r1 and rn
03:49 - Stage 2 - opposite line to opposite neutral (figure of 8)
04:20 - Calculations for R1 + Rn
05:05 - Testing at our fuse connection unit on our ring final circuit
06:16 - Testing at every socket outlet during stage 2
07:47 - Contact cleaner to improve the electrical connection
08:55 - Stage 3 - opposite line to opposite CPC (figure of 8)
09:05 - Calculations for R1 + Rn
09:30 - Testing at our fuse connection unit on our ring final circuit
09:54 - Visual polarity of the fuse connection unit (fuse spur)
10:41 - Testing at every socket outlet during stage 3
12:45 - Completing the test paperwork for our ring final circuit test
But is it permitted to wet those three heads with stuff to get good result?
Fantastic video, straight forward explanation and easy to follow. I had been struggling to understand it out of a book but seeing it in practice is helpful.
Thanks for commenting and watching
You can't ask for better when it comes to videos like this. Well presented and very easy to understand .
Thanks 👍🏻
Hi Guys. Just wanted to say thanks very much for all the help your video tutorials have been. I am just after achieving my 2391 and your videos and explanations were a massive help to me. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!
That’s fantastic news Nigel and thanks for watching 👍🏻. All the best Gaz
I have my final exam tomorrow and I had no idea how to do the testing, now I do thanks so much
👍🏻… all the best
Thanks for clarifying step1 relating to results being within .5 and not on the value of r1 + r2. 👍👍👍
Also congratulations on 50k subscribers. Will be 100k in no time.
You have covered everything that a student would need to know thankyou.
Thanks 👍🏻
Fair play to Marcus, fair play to him
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I pass today MA2 your tutorials are the best in special for immigrants like me , thanks very much guys the best teachers
I hope you do not skimp on others with information as some immigrants do
Don't sign someone else work . Good luck 👍
thanks for showing the test sheet and filling that
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very helpful content set out in an easy to understand format.
Thanks 👍🏻
amazing guys wish you best of luck i know your channel for some time and it is amazing you took this guy on and producing to me even better more clearer tutorials again keep on thanks for all your hard work
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
Keep up the great work guys!
Thanks for the kind words
You really explaining nicely that is awesome
Thanks 👍🏻
Well explained ,thank you.
After those videos whatever is in the books statring to make sense!
You should make an in depth video on IR testing showing the type of faults that throw up bad readings their doesnt seem to be any on youtube.
I have a rig for that just need time to get round to making the video 🦾. Gaz
What a video. Excellent detail, I’m also an adult learner and this is Really really helpful! Thank you 😃
Thanks David 👍
Congratulations on 50k. Looking forward for much more videos
Thanks 🦾
I like the way you connected line and neutral alternately. Replicates the normal flow of current in alternate directions
Top video as always. Really appreciate the detail you put in guys. Excellent help
Thank you much this has helped me a lot with the understanding for each of the stages 🙌
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Something you could add... if when you do the R1+R2 after doing the R1+Rn, if the switch doesn't switch off the second time round, it would have meant (pending on other tests) that it is highly likely that the switches are double pole and only the neutral pole was switching off
Congratulations on over 50k subscribers👍
Thanks 🦾
Very interesting work your doing. I’m in Canada and wow its very different here. Same but very, very different.
Taking the resistance from the sockets when the whole ring is one continuous conductor made into a loop.
The L & N in the socket may be at opposite ends to the loop. That is, if the loop is 100 metres long, the L & N in the socket will be 50 metres apart on the one and same loop. So the measurement is right around the loop? Hence a reading of 0.5.
Great content guys keep it going 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks 👍🏻
Great videos garry but can you please do video explaining types of tests and what it means to the circuit. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Such an informative video. Thanks guys. 👍🏾
Love the content gents! Quick question this is under unit 204 level 2 but in this video Gaz mentioned it's for level 3....
Very good. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
Hi,
A few (maybe silly) questions please as I've never done testing before, just learning now.
- Do I need to disconnect everything from the sockets before testing?
- Do I need to switch ON or OFF the sockets each?
- What if there is fused spur on the ring? My boiler is on the ring of the living room sockets. What should I do with it?
Many thanks for your answer in advance!
Great video . Hope thats not a euphemism "marcus gone to take kids swimming"
😂😂😂
Thanks for sharing it with us
Thank you ❤️
Great video. Thanks
Thanks 👍🏻
Thanks, good video
Thanks for watching
These guys are quite selfless. They probably earn less as a tutor delivering the gold standard than working out in the field on the tools. The college looks cool and if it wasn't for distance I would be wanting to do my 2396-01 here.
Wow thanks for that amazing compliment 🙌🏻👍🏻…
U guys are amazing thanks a lot
Thanks 👍🏻
Thanks for help
What would be a better lesson might be to show how to split a ring into 2 properly fuse rated radials.
I am a bit confused as a new student bit at the end of the test in front of the white board with Marcus, you made the note as r2 1.67 i thought that was spouse to be cpc end to end reading why did u put there 1.67 as r2? thanx
Very good 👍
Thanks 👍
Hi I am a huge fan great video as always, a little baffled by calculations.. 1+ 1.67 / 4.. same with other calculation.. can you advise
Thanks 👍
Great video, thank you for sharing 🙏
When you were checking the spur did you probe up onto the input or did you switch it on & probe on the output?
Outgoing and operate the switch… our spur had NO outgoing circuit 👍🏻
Can you test at the outgoing load from the spur…?
@@GSHElectrical Yes - it's awkward for some, but I can just about. I was just thinking that the load will affect the resistance reading..
Are the readings coming down because you've sprayed the plug top and loosened the contacts or just because the liquid is reducing the resistance in the contacts momunterely as it is aiding the flow of current with the plug top being wet ? Just a thought.
I noticed Marcus used the tips of the crocs when connecting to the conductors, my cps assessor has questioned me twice on consecutive visits how I personally carry this out, if I use the tips he says the spring end gives a better connection and visa-versa on another visit, personally I don't think it matters so long as the contact is good, what is your opinion?
You make some great points 👍
Great video, did you mean to say 0.05 when the reading and calculation was 0.51.
I have confused myself
Is a ring final and ring main the same thing as a ring circuit just different wording such as earth conductor/CPC etc
Great content.
Where can I get a replacement motherboard for a megga insulation resistance tester? Where do they sell replacement parts?
Fantastic video, I’m not an electrician, both yourself and JW state on the figure of eight test between the line and cpc should be higher overall due to the thinner cpc but all substantially the same , but the on site guide suggests increase or decrease measurements depending where you are on the circuit?
The on site guide is correct. I tried explaining this to my tutor and he didn't accept it. When you draw it out it makes perfect sense. (r1+r2) / 4 works when you're half way around the ring. As you move along, you will have more cpc on one leg and more line on the other. So the overall resistance decreases as you move towards the ends of the ring
you said in the AM2S theres a fuse spur which goes to a outside socket,when testing at the fuse spur could you not put your probes onto the load side of the spur and click the switch to confirm polarity as well and then test the outside socket like normal ?
Aren't we supposed to carry out isolation, before doing continuity?
Great video but it was very fast to understand slow stpes would help to understand better
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻
Thanks
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Massive thanks for being my first super thanks it is very much appreciated. Gaz
Brill Ty...
On a ring you can only spur one and if you want another one you need an fcu. This is because you could potentially draw more than 26amps correct? However, with radial circuits does this reg come into place because before you can draw more than 26amps the 16a mob should trip correct?
yeah mate
Thanks for the video gentlemen. It is really helpful to so eone like me who is very interested in electrical installation and hoping to get into this line of work as well as my plumbing and heating. Seems like it is just as expensive as plumbing with the tools and calibration etc with flue gas analysers and multifunction testers. Is it better, cheaper togo for individual testers or better for the multi function? thanks again
multis are expensive but its an all in 1 unit. alot easier if your main job is testing
Why not show reading on a socket wired wrong. Also show were CPC and neutral is reversed at a socket.
after getting r1 0.62, rn 0.64 r2 0.93 end to end, on cross connection what would make you get a figure of 0.00 at socket points?
when do you do small r1, rn, r2 test and when do you do big R test?
also you havent said anything about nulling the resistance of the leads when you used the plug in tester,is this something you need to do or not for the AM2S?
Remove the resistance of the leads
Hi
Just came cross job i tested at CU and found r1 higher than rn on 2.5mm cable i didn't have time to investigate can you please advise im going back next week.
Thanks
Rewireble polsalin circuit fuses haven't seen them for a good view year's, and the earth conductor wrapped up like. A bandege with green and yellow Pvc tape bit shoddy.
Doesn’t the fuse in the plug cause any issues with the readings? Or is the assumption of a fuse being in the plug incorrect?
there is a fuse. but it should only act as a fuse and should let the current pass with no addition to the resistance reading
How have you nulled the leads with the plug in leads?
Hi Gsh electrical currently am on second year ( actually 3rd gear ) covid 19 messed up every my learning. Questions how to remember to do ring circuit in order
Edit when he said 0.05 he meant 0.5ohm for figure of eight
you hid well, where to put the probes during Step2
Joining the opposite L and N in the connector block makes one long single conductor joined at the ends. A loop. I don't think that was mentioned. Could be wrong.
Possibly we didn’t - it’s a training aid so always lots of talking points can be raised 🦾.
Do you have to do it in the board or can you do it in any socket in the ring circuit?
Any point on the ring final circuit 👍🏻
@@GSHElectrical I thought so but I was told it has to be at the board so that the tester won't pick up any parallel paths from other earths or neutrals?
Testing rings is one of the many ways I dislike them. The point at which you disturb the joints are the one area you cannot test.
can anyone link me to the earlier learners video they keep talking about? I'm still early days and I'm a little too dumb right now to understand everything in this one. Thanks!
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@@GSHElectrical how quick was that reply! Thank you!
Vordeman ??? Don’t be so hard on yourself Gaz ... your moobs aren’t THAT big 🤣
Great video .. thanks 🙏
You stood in front of the figures on the white board
Sorry
Do you need to make a temporary link?
Use a connector 👍🏻
we cannot see the connections because the writing comes in front
Turn off your subtitles 👍🏻
@@GSHElectrical Your writings still appears .If all the subtitles are removed then people will benefit more. I am doing Inspection and testing at trade skills for you.I am resitting the exam only the practical. I need to master the practical
those readings tell me the ring is about 125m, voltdrop hmmmm lol
Is this the test electricisns chsrge 250 pounds for
where TF are the American videos? every video I find is from the UK, can't understand them.