The victim was never given an option and chance. And yet...that monster was given the chance to leave the courtroom as she doesn't want to hear the verdict for the crime she committed.
Since the defendant couldn’t keep her mouth shut, and disrupted court proceedings throughout the entire case. So, it was either that, or put a gag in her mouth. The first option is more humane, but in this particular case I would have preferred to see her gagged. 😜
She like 2 play with feces wood leave feces growing bacteria and fungis n drop into ppl drink in fast food place she love stinkers lol I love stink 2 but I don't grow it only sniff n flush
What motive would she have, at that point, to act crazy? It benefits her in zero way, shape, or form. To be honest, it never benefits anyone accused of ANY crime. However, I'll digress on that point here.
I've seen a black man duck taped to keep him from making outbursts during court proceedings. Why is this person given a choice and basically allowed to control how the court proceeds with or without her presence? I'm confused......
I'll be honest I was half expecting her to stick her fingers in her ears and go "LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU SO IT DOESN'T COUNT!" On the top of her voice. I don't understand what she is hoping to achieve with this pathetic behaviour. She’s spent her entire adult life running away and it’s surely only a matter of times before she is facing other charges in other states. Is it normal for Americans to have lived in 33 different states? I know no one has so many aliases unless they’ve been up to no good. She’s a coward through and through. I like this no nonsense judge.
She seems to be what youd call a drifter or tumbleweed (goes where the wind blows). Though I dont think Im typical, I have lived in only 2 states in 70 years, although Ive been to all of them on business. Theres probably very few who have actually lived in 33?
@@mea1831 First, if you listen to DNA testimony and get revelation how forensics and DNA experts use disclaimers, so they can't be sued, they are definately a scam. Then you realize the prosecution has nothing on this lady. The computer programmers lie, to make themselves appear relevant. Kimberly was a homeless person living in people's vehicles for years. She was trying to work at a salon, an honest job. Thats not evidence of a murder.
This is a just verdict. Condolences to the family of her victim, Joleen Cummings. May this verdict assuage their pain on some level. While it cannot bring back their loved one. At least she will be punished and cannot harm another person or cause this same grief upon another family. Leave more children motherless as she has in this case.
For me, this is the primary goal of the corrections setting after sentencing. Convicts should be allowed opportunities to be rehabilitated, but the primary goal is to keep the public safe from those who have legally been deemed unsafe for existing within the community.
@@allemander thats always my point in enforcing the death penalty. That sentence is the ultimate deterrent to reoffending. No murderer has ever killed again following the completion of their sentence so its 100% effective. It is NOT meant to be a deterrent to further crimes, but a deterrent to the continuation of violence from a convicted murderer. With today's technology it is a less than 1% chance that you can be convicted by a jury without sufficient physical and circumstantial evidence connecting you to the location, victim, and/or weapon. Not to mention the modern forensic and evidentiary technology we have today that is REQUIRED to gain a conviction.
I do believe with modern technology. Better trial law in place etc. With potential jurors being better educated today , having a very good understanding of what their roles are as jurors. We most often see juries come back with well thought out and just verdicts. Research shows the numbers of those being given the DP in DP states is down. I looked into that just last week due to a verdict that was handed down in Florida.
@@SouthernNurseAndTheLaw exactly. Under the previous precedent of wrongful convictions, I would agree that the death penalty isn't okay. But with today's technology and information available, I feel completely confident in it's use to prevent more deaths from a murderer. Inside or outside bars.
I'm sorry & totally off topic, but that shit that the court assistant is wearing, is what I consider to be kinda tacky and not appropriate for court. JMO.
It is unfortunate that this channel did not cover this trial better. Only the video proceedings of the 2nd trial day are fully available online. This case is so interesting that I think many people have an interest in seeing the full trial.
Is she doing this so she can claim she wasn’t able to instruct her solicitors in her own defence. Seems it could be used this way on appeal if she hasn’t been involved in any of the proceedings to instruct her counsel. Not saying she’s not guilty btw as I think she def is.
No because the Supreme Court ruled that youre 6th&14th amendment rights are essentially a privledge- i.e that you have the right to be present at every stage of proceeding but can loose that right if through "misconduct" upset the "order, dignity, or decorum of the court" ... this is a long established standard where defendents are removed if they repeatedly engaging in innapropriate& disruptive outbursts etc.. & the fact is that in this situations she WAS able to participate at any time in the proceedings she was merely in another room with audio& visual& can be brought back up into the courtroom at anytime to participate& engage with her lawyers& etc if she asks. The Supreme Court case where they ruled it was proper to remove the defendent was in a case where he was brought to the prison & so participating at all was clearly not an option. Not just that but she clearly was asked if she wanted to be present here for the verdict & she said no, so this would be unlikely an effective arguement in an appeal.
@@davidlang1125 Newsflash NO one CARES how YOU think THEY should Dress Maybe someone should have you taught you that long ago fashionista man . It's simply the truth .
@@ruthsturgeon4979 you might consider having psychotherapy. There seems to be more here than just a banter over a difference of sartorial opinion. As they say, have a good day.
The moral of the story is don’t murder someone if you can’t afford your own defense lawyer because you never know who the court will assign to represent you.
@@gwenstone9685 how is that the moral of the story??? It has zero to do with who is defending her. She thinks she will be better off in a state hospital and she won't. She thinks this will help her appeal.
Bow ties make a person look like a complete tool! Whenever I see some misguided doofus wearing one, I want to pull that bow tie to full elastic tension, and then let go. Hopefully, snapping the pencil-neck that indicates a clothing cretin. I absolutely detested wearing a bow tie as a child. “Gee, thanks Mom. Was Sears all out of clown shoes?”
Damn! Wouldn’t be present for verdict shackled to a wheelchair (assuming mask was on to prevent spitting) smdh true colors coming out that’s for sure 👍🏻 they should’ve forced her to hear the verdict just my thoughts 🤔 🤨
I don’t think she meets the criteria for the death penalty, so she’ll likely receive a mandatory life without parole which is cheaper for the citizens of Florida.
Everyone has rights there was a sight of corruption because she has asked multiple times for her trial to be fair and then she asked for a new lawyer they violate her rights even if she did something wrong it’s still the right of a person to have a fair trial and have a right to dismiss an attorney it’s a constitutional right Florida constitutional right to get a new attorney appointed and so she refused every time because she didn’t get our attorney changed they violate her constitutional rights regardless of what she did everybody has a right there’s something that you must day and your past I was wrong and people thought the same way and I guarantee you many people have either gone to jail or got stopped by the police For something so I don’t think a person is a monster and you could be considered a monster just for speeding even if you had a speeding ticket so don’t put a judgment on anybody from what I’ve seen of all the video clips of the case she’s been asking multiple times from the beginning that she would like a new attorney because of the fat being that there’s a constant conflict of interest and if you don’t understand what that means Google it research it understand it
From what I know, she knew the victim. I believed she worked as a hairdresser and killed another operator or the owner. The victim has not been located. This woman has lived in 33 states under numerous alias. Police believe under the alias she’s responsible for other murders.
I don't blame her. She was set up and railroaded by this crooked system. Look at the lady reading the verdict dressed like she's going to the bar looking for some D. What a joke.
If she had..maybe we’d have a real president.. Instead we’ve got a senile resident of 1600 Pennsylvania ave and a bimbo.. Who’ve put you and your children $135,000 each into debt to the government.. You’re already starting to pay it back threw this inflation.. Congratulations on playing yourselves.
She should have been forced to listen to the verdict. They gave her power which she does not deserve.
Agreed she did the crime the least they can do is make her sit through the verdict no choice 👍🏻
Doesn't matter.
Well the court gets the last laugh so it doesn't matter anyway.
White privileged
There was another court case where a black man got his mouth taped and was made to listen to them
But no systematic racism
Meh. Her power is gone. She can't change the verdict or the outcome. She has nothing.
The victim was never given an option and chance. And yet...that monster was given the chance to leave the courtroom as she doesn't want to hear the verdict for the crime she committed.
Whether she hears the verdict or not doesn't change the verdict , the court process proceeds with or without her .
@@shellyveley9515 still on principal she should have to stay there and face it
@@tjw1861 agree💯
@@tjw1861 Right this monster shouldn't have the choice!!
Yeah I don’t get why you guys care about the dumb shit she’s locked up forever who cares? You guys are weird
One way or another, she will find out the verdict whether she wants to or not
She already knew.
She’s a real piece of work, isn’t she.smh
Since when does the defendant, convicted, get a Choice in hearing the Verdict??
The defendant has a right to be present but if they waive that it's on them rather than a violation of their rights.
Since the defendant couldn’t keep her mouth shut, and disrupted court proceedings throughout the entire case. So, it was either that, or put a gag in her mouth. The first option is more humane, but in this particular case I would have preferred to see her gagged. 😜
Put a gage on her !! Make her face the Music in front of her accusers!!
How is someone convicted before the verdict? You're contradicting yourself.
Really! I thought she had to listen to the jury's verdict. The Judge should've read it out in front of her. This girl must be absolutely crazy.
Crazy like a 🦊
not crazy but evil and manipulative
She’s not crazy. That’s the scary part.
The woman has acted guilty from day one. Prison not mental hospital
Exactly! Wish she could just tell us what she did to the body. Wish she could be returned to her family ASAP
no....a life for a life...!!
Firing squad imo😒
She’s gonna find out quickly in prison this fake nonsense will not be tolerated
She is not smart enough to handle situations like this, she should have closed her eyes and nobody would have been able to see her.
you're funny!!
Lol
🤣😂🤣
Clicked her heels three times and say “there’s no place like home!”
😂
I guess Kim is under the wrong impression that the
verdict has to be announced in her presence,
SURPRISE!
!
The guilty always act a fool death penalty for her and I feel so heart broken 💔 for that beautiful murdered woman and her family. 💔
Can someone please explain to me what she is about and why she’s allowed to keep having these outbursts?!! Sparknotes!
She like 2 play with feces wood leave feces growing bacteria and fungis n drop into ppl drink in fast food place she love stinkers lol I love stink 2 but I don't grow it only sniff n flush
I think she’s trying to plead insanity so she can go to hospital instead of jail
Was just thinking the same things. Unreal! And why the wheelchair? I keep googling and find nothing..
@@patriciafoster3347 hi deer I like 2 dance to circus song by spears when I m cover in fece
@@patriciafoster3347 I think it's purpose is as a restraint
Bout time! Now I wish she'd give up where Jolene is!!
She’s playing crazy smh
What motive would she have, at that point, to act crazy? It benefits her in zero way, shape, or form. To be honest, it never benefits anyone accused of ANY crime. However, I'll digress on that point here.
I've seen a black man duck taped to keep him from making outbursts during court proceedings. Why is this person given a choice and basically allowed to control how the court proceeds with or without her presence? I'm confused......
She really should have tried to get Ronnie O'Neal to represent her.......
😂😂😂
Lmao....good one
🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"and the evidence will show that he is still off his rocker"!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nancygreen3705 his hair looked real stupid also
The outfit the court reporter has on isn't appropriate at all! Whatever happened to professionalism? 🤔
This judge has the patience of Job!
Jobe**
Is very patient.. why religion.. everything! Ugh
i see nothing here that demonstrates exceptional patience.
@@snail8926 english language christian bible spells it as 'job'.
@@unoimright5153 well, it appears that your usa has not separated church from state, as it says 'in god we trust' above the judge's head.
Wow this is the second guilty verdict in one day. Juicy Smollett you going down bro.
Duggar down
Make that 3 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
guilty on 5 out of 6 counts of disorderly conduct. class 4 felony but he will likely only get probation, community service, and fines
Jussie 🤦🏾♀️
Juicy?? 💀 😂 and the comment above me made it even more funny 😂 I cant stop crying 😂😆😂
Volume has been poor throughout the trial
Weather she hears it from the judge or the officer she gonna hear it one way or the other! Doesn’t matter she gonna do the time.
That's bullshit, she should have to face her conviction !!!
Court officials who dress so casually? Very strange and inappropriate. She thinks court is a good place to show some skin? Just wow.
😂
I heard the day before she wore an outfit where everyone could see her ankles 😱😱😱
@@vshazam 😂🤣
It isn’t all that bad
Are you talking about the woman in the black blouse with the cut-outs down her arms?
If so, you're stupid. Grow up.
I'll be honest I was half expecting her to stick her fingers in her ears and go "LA, LA, LA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU SO IT DOESN'T COUNT!" On the top of her voice.
I don't understand what she is hoping to achieve with this pathetic behaviour. She’s spent her entire adult life running away and it’s surely only a matter of times before she is facing other charges in other states. Is it normal for Americans to have lived in 33 different states? I know no one has so many aliases unless they’ve been up to no good. She’s a coward through and through. I like this no nonsense judge.
She seems to be what youd call a drifter or tumbleweed (goes where the wind blows). Though I dont think Im typical, I have lived in only 2 states in 70 years, although Ive been to all of them on business. Theres probably very few who have actually lived in 33?
@@ronclifford3336 as a non resident which state would you settle or recommend? A state with safe gun laws though
should be forced to listen like every other defendant! The fact she wore a badge does not afford her any special entitlement!
What badge?
She was a hair stylist. What badge are talking about?
Framing an innocent person for crimes they didn't commit is wrong.
@@freshstart4423 who was framed?
@@mea1831 First, if you listen to DNA testimony and get revelation how forensics and DNA experts use disclaimers, so they can't be sued, they are definately a scam. Then you realize the prosecution has nothing on this lady.
The computer programmers lie, to make themselves appear relevant.
Kimberly was a homeless person living in people's vehicles for years. She was trying to work at a salon, an honest job. Thats not evidence of a murder.
This is a just verdict. Condolences to the family of her victim, Joleen Cummings. May this verdict assuage their pain on some level. While it cannot bring back their loved one. At least she will be punished and cannot harm another person or cause this same grief upon another family. Leave more children motherless as she has in this case.
For me, this is the primary goal of the corrections setting after sentencing. Convicts should be allowed opportunities to be rehabilitated, but the primary goal is to keep the public safe from those who have legally been deemed unsafe for existing within the community.
Right, because no prisoner has ever harmed another prisoner while in prison. 🤦🏼♂️
@@allemander thats always my point in enforcing the death penalty. That sentence is the ultimate deterrent to reoffending. No murderer has ever killed again following the completion of their sentence so its 100% effective. It is NOT meant to be a deterrent to further crimes, but a deterrent to the continuation of violence from a convicted murderer.
With today's technology it is a less than 1% chance that you can be convicted by a jury without sufficient physical and circumstantial evidence connecting you to the location, victim, and/or weapon. Not to mention the modern forensic and evidentiary technology we have today that is REQUIRED to gain a conviction.
I do believe with modern technology. Better trial law in place etc. With potential jurors being better educated today , having a very good understanding of what their roles are as jurors. We most often see juries come back with well thought out and just verdicts.
Research shows the numbers of those being given the DP in DP states is down. I looked into that just last week due to a verdict that was handed down in Florida.
@@SouthernNurseAndTheLaw exactly. Under the previous precedent of wrongful convictions, I would agree that the death penalty isn't okay. But with today's technology and information available, I feel completely confident in it's use to prevent more deaths from a murderer. Inside or outside bars.
Surprised she wasn't yelling "Jordan wears shorts" or some other nonsense :/
It maybe the third guilty verdict, lynlee renick was also found guilty.
She should have been forced to stay in there to hear her verdict
I'm sorry & totally off topic, but that shit that the court assistant is wearing, is what I consider to be kinda tacky and not appropriate for court. JMO.
You can tell hot mess
You're not the judge here, Karen!
Oh was her outfit hurting you or anyone?
@@moonglade80 Please shut up. I said what the hell I said. UA-cam is getting so weird.
She is homely and knew it was televised puttin
It out there
Just incase she might catch any men who are watching
Who cares what she wants. She has No rights at this point
I guess she was expecting to be denied and then throw a massieve tantrum. So this is better, no more drama.
Why is she in that wheelchair? I havent followed this case too close.
What a demon
She should have to sit and listen !! But she already knew the verdict !!!
Wow! I didn't think they had a choice.
I don't understand why she had a choice, that's ridiculous
She's been killing since she went missing. I bet she's linked to other women's deaths.
~she needs to let them knw where her body is...!!?
Her fake crazy act didn't work
Seriously they couldn’t get her near a mike
It is unfortunate that this channel did not cover this trial better.
Only the video proceedings of the 2nd trial day are fully available online.
This case is so interesting that I think many people have an interest in seeing the full trial.
I condone her behavior. The one and only time she acted appropriately in the courtroom.
Fancy seeing you here. 😁
@@cautionTosser 🤩
Good thing they let her leave. Last thing they need is more disruption and contemplating outbursts in a courtroom that needs to be taken seriously
Forcing her to listen should be part of the punishment.
She's only acting crazy ! A real crazy person doesn't know their crazy 🤪
Leticia Stauch (allegedly murdered her step son Gannon) has been up to a lot of shenanigans too. I can see her pulling this kind of crap at her trial.
This judge has the patience of a saint
A cowards way out.
Why is she in a wheelchair. Whats up with that
I would of said you don't have a choice in this matter. You will stay here until the verdict is read whether you like it or not.
Cowardly to not face the consequences.
Is she doing this so she can claim she wasn’t able to instruct her solicitors in her own defence. Seems it could be used this way on appeal if she hasn’t been involved in any of the proceedings to instruct her counsel. Not saying she’s not guilty btw as I think she def is.
nah it's just a cowardly narcissist refusing to hear the truth.
She would never cooperate with the court or her defense lawyers. I think she was playing insanity.
No because the Supreme Court ruled that youre 6th&14th amendment rights are essentially a privledge- i.e that you have the right to be present at every stage of proceeding but can loose that right if through "misconduct" upset the "order, dignity, or decorum of the court" ... this is a long established standard where defendents are removed if they repeatedly engaging in innapropriate& disruptive outbursts etc.. & the fact is that in this situations she WAS able to participate at any time in the proceedings she was merely in another room with audio& visual& can be brought back up into the courtroom at anytime to participate& engage with her lawyers& etc if she asks. The Supreme Court case where they ruled it was proper to remove the defendent was in a case where he was brought to the prison & so participating at all was clearly not an option. Not just that but she clearly was asked if she wanted to be present here for the verdict & she said no, so this would be unlikely an effective arguement in an appeal.
America is as horrible as it comes she should not be given any options when it came to her sentencing
My cat has a bow tie exactly like the one on the judge.
Can barely hear it.
Court recorder was wearing Elaines dress from Seinfeld
It was not appropriate.
I came to see if I was actually the only one who noticed and the judge was staring until he realized he was…
@@AnnaMorris411 It's funny cuz I'm watching Seinfeld right now and that episode was just on. Cracked me up
I can't believe she's wearing that in court!!!
@@nancygreen3705 I agree, Nancy, because she likely knew that a verdict would be rendered today.
He looks like the judge from Night Court
The clerks dress looks trashy, like she's going out to a club instead of working in a court of law during a murder trial.
Court clerk reading the verdict should be arrested for poor taste in clothes.
You should be arrested for your profile pic fashionista man
@@ruthsturgeon4979 I assume you’re making a feeble attempt at humor?
@@davidlang1125 Newsflash NO one CARES how YOU think THEY should Dress Maybe someone should have you taught you that long ago fashionista man . It's simply the truth .
@@ruthsturgeon4979 you might consider having psychotherapy.
There seems to be more here than just a banter over a difference of sartorial opinion.
As they say, have a good day.
Something is up she is definitely delivering the approach completely wrong but it is something we as citizen should look at!
The moral of the story is don’t murder someone if you can’t afford your own defense lawyer because you never know who the court will assign to represent you.
@@gwenstone9685 how is that the moral of the story??? It has zero to do with who is defending her. She thinks she will be better off in a state hospital and she won't. She thinks this will help her appeal.
Not sure what you mean.
That bow tie looks ridiculous , hate bow ties .
Ha didn’t even notice that 🤦🏼♀️
Bow ties make a person look like a complete tool! Whenever I see some misguided doofus wearing one, I want to pull that bow tie to full elastic tension, and then let go. Hopefully, snapping the pencil-neck that indicates a clothing cretin. I absolutely detested wearing a bow tie as a child. “Gee, thanks Mom. Was Sears all out of clown shoes?”
This one is a nut case
I don't care that she wasn't forced to listen to the verdict, but she better be forced to listen to victim impact statements.
Don’t think she will last long in prison. She’s going to piss off too many people in there.
Damn! Wouldn’t be present for verdict shackled to a wheelchair (assuming mask was on to prevent spitting) smdh true colors coming out that’s for sure 👍🏻 they should’ve forced her to hear the verdict just my thoughts 🤔 🤨
They better don't give her a menu in prison, she order IHOP for breakfast and steakhouse for lunch and dinner.
What a heartless living thing, she is.
Is the judge's name backward? lol - It reads and sounds better as DANIEL H. JAMES - LOL
Gotta give her credit worth a shot at crazy act
There would be zero motive to act crazy. She had already pleaded not guilty and went through a criminal trial.
The clerk's dress is unprofessional. The court is a highly regarded space, and any person who steps in should have decent attire on.
I thought the same thing. She also didn't speak that loud and clear. It's a verdict for crying out loud.
First thing i thought when she stood up
@@toanotherplace she doesn't have a microphone.
Court dress is decided by the judge it's his courtroom really non of our business
OMG, seriously?! 🙄 Because of her sweater's sleeves? Are you always telling strangers what to wear at work?
this must be the worst most boring job In the world ...
Did she get the death penalty
She'll be sentenced later. You don't usually know sentences on the same day unless it's a misdemeanor, plea, or mandatory sentence.
I don’t think she meets the criteria for the death penalty, so she’ll likely receive a mandatory life without parole which is cheaper for the citizens of Florida.
@@fieryweasel Death penalty is a separate jury decision in Florida, so we'll be waiting
She’s soooooo weird
New to this as I’m in Australia! Why is she in a wheelchair! Just curious
"Are the lambs still screaming"
What a coward.
Video starts at 1:58.
Entitled and privileged
Yes life in prison for that evil woman 👹
Everyone has rights there was a sight of corruption because she has asked multiple times for her trial to be fair and then she asked for a new lawyer they violate her rights even if she did something wrong it’s still the right of a person to have a fair trial and have a right to dismiss an attorney it’s a constitutional right Florida constitutional right to get a new attorney appointed and so she refused every time because she didn’t get our attorney changed they violate her constitutional rights regardless of what she did everybody has a right there’s something that you must day and your past I was wrong and people thought the same way and I guarantee you many people have either gone to jail or got stopped by the police For something so I don’t think a person is a monster and you could be considered a monster just for speeding even if you had a speeding ticket so don’t put a judgment on anybody from what I’ve seen of all the video clips of the case she’s been asking multiple times from the beginning that she would like a new attorney because of the fat being that there’s a constant conflict of interest and if you don’t understand what that means Google it research it understand it
And Dugger!
I'm just now seeing this, only finding the verdict, why do they believe she did this? Just curious, was it just random or did she know the victim?
From what I know, she knew the victim. I believed she worked as a hairdresser and killed another operator or the owner. The victim has not been located. This woman has lived in 33 states under numerous alias. Police believe under the alias she’s responsible for other murders.
@@cynthiatucker2147 Thank you.
Sayonara!
Why is she in a wheelchair?
Why is the women reading the verdict have holes in her shirt. We would be kicked out the court room in that attire here in Texas.
If it wasn't for the murder she would be kind of cute.
I would have made her stay in the courtroom.
The court handled this woman all wrong. I’m appalled.
I don't blame her. She was set up and railroaded by this crooked system. Look at the lady reading the verdict dressed like she's going to the bar looking for some D. What a joke.
Birds of a feather...
Can someone really have a fair trail if they're being represented by public defenders and they aren't even in the courtroom
That was her choice to leave the room each time
Nothing fair here she killed someone she she should stop wasting our times
You know Kimberly Kessler voted for Donald Trump.
She's a crazy snowflake libtard! Trump has nothing to do with it !
If she had..maybe we’d have a real president..
Instead we’ve got a senile resident of 1600 Pennsylvania ave and a bimbo..
Who’ve put you and your children $135,000 each into debt to the government..
You’re already starting to pay it back threw this inflation..
Congratulations on playing yourselves.
The free markets and covid cause inflation not the potus.
I believe the victim was Joleen Cummings , would be nice if you could spell her name correctly !
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