How Pro Photographers Choose Their Camera Brand
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2022
- Knowing how to chose the right camera brand is really tough. Hopefully this will help you to make a more informed decision.
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Yesterdays video was shot in the exact same set up but with a MUCH cheaper camera. Interesting to know if you noticed before seeing this much higher end version...
I only noticed after going back and looking for it. Your content overshadows the quality of the filming so to be honest I’ve never really considered it when watching your channel, which by the way I find really, really useful!
Didn’t notice any difference in quality but a lack of cats… don’t shoot still life so have no idea why you need a tilt shift lens, perhaps you might consider a video on this topic?
Straight away, and that’s on a phone
@@sh8736 it gets covered in the camera build episodes
I probably wouldn't have really noticed if you hadn't told me because unless you're explicitly showing something, I often do something else (like kitchen work) while listening to what you're talking about!
You’re so right! I do fashion and make-up portraits and though a lot of post is done by a specialist we hire, I actually like grading Nikon and Hassy-files but, like handling, that is very personal. My colleague is a Sony shooter and she dislikes the NEF files coming out of the Nikon. Nevertheless, we both produce the end results our customers need, so there are many ways to Rome.
I advise our workshop attendees to rent a camera before buying in into a system. Next to paying attention to the file editing, I also advise them to try the handling. I find that many modern mrrorless cameras (e.g. Nikon Zx and Sony Ax) are quite small for larger hands, while other models (e.g. Panasonic S1) are sometimes too big for smaller hands. Either way you can’t get really used to that unlike e.g. menu layouts. For some the camera brand almost feels like a football club to them and they get very anxious whenever there’s even the mildest criticism. Funny…
Hello, Scott: Thank you for this video. From the perspective of a commercial photographer, your comments of the differences between RAW files and colour grading are spot on. Any camera brand will perform if it fits the needs case. But, the buyer has to understand what they actually need before making the purchase. That is the tricky part. People are motivated to buy for personal reasons (price, camera feel in their hands, recommendations from UA-cam stars, etc.). But in the end, it's all what you get accustomed to using.
This video was super helpful, I enjoyed the way you thought and how you spoke!
Yes, great idea, a very helpful and very generous proposition.
Some of the camera companies do short free loans (with giant deposits) e.g FujiFilm does a two day free loan for almost all their GFX range
Love this video. As a Sony shooter (mainly product and lifestyle), upgrading from the A7RIII to the RIV I noticed a big difference in color tonality. I don’t spend as much time as I did getting things looking natural.
I’m invested in their GM lenses and have the processing power to work with the files, and they look great!
I myself really like Nikon, not only for the great handling and that in the Z-system line-up I found everything I want for good lenses which fit within my budget, but also for the menu-system I find very intuitive and very pleasing to work with ..... thanks again for the revalations 😅😅
Much appreciated advice, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
When evaluating a new body, I also look at the sensor native white balance (the setting in K where the red and blue WB multipliers are as close to the same as possible) as that is where the camera tends to perform the best, and where that WB is will dictate how you gel your lights to get your lights to that Kelvin range. Some cameras have a native WB that is almost exactly the same as flash, and some are way down in the low 4000s to high 3000s K range while others are way up in the 6000+ K range. I personally prefer A native WB in the 5000-6000 range so I don’t have to run heavy gel on my lights.
I find your content so true, I do mostly media work with fast turn around times using a canon 70d, my lenses are 24-105 for general purpose, 70-200, and 50mm1.8. I originally choose this camera because of the video autofocus because I sometimes have to do run ang gun video. I also know my buddies have lpe6 charges. One of the things that I do like is how nice out of camera is, I can legit sometimes give the person that contracted me the jpgs, but also the editing is super streamlined and it helps pushing photos fast.
This is again another great advice! Thanks for making this videos...people often get carried away by the "popularity" of the brands and don't focus on photography. I have used Olympus for over 15 years and I was fine with it, I got a Nikon as a present and despite all...its still not my thing and I don't feel it...just the way the zoom is backwards compared to my previous one...the way you turn it on ( not instinctively for me..) .
There are so many variables when choosing a camera system. Yesterday, a couple of days ago, I bought my 4th camera system, the Panasonic S1R. Now, I remember when I first tried the S1R, it just fitted my hands like a glove, and I do think that is important to me. I also knew that the AF was not the most reliable, but my intention was to use it with my Zeiss Milvis lenses, due to the EVF.
When it comes to processing files, yes, there are big differences, but given it a few days I have always been able to adapt to a new file format, so for me, it is not a big deal.
So I don't think there is one best way to look at a camera system, it comes down to the strengths and weaknesses of the photographer.
The raw thing I didn't understand fully until I got my Phase One back. The raw file is so much closer to my intended result than my Nikon (so much so I'm electing to sell my Nikon kit). And I chose Hasselblad because of the lenses. But also because the H series is so intuitive for me. Win win win.
I am going to add the Cambo Actus front end to my Nikon D850 for landscape work. I'm going to try a mix of Mamiya and large format lenses. It's a little strange in that once you go with the Cambo front the back camera brand sort of doesn't matter.
You mention tilt-shift lenses in this video and this is a topic I'd love to see a video on. I have hired a tilt-shift once to see what impact it might have on my food/product photography but I didn't have it for long enough to really experiment properly. I'm not 100% sure on the getting the best use out of them (well I kind-of do, but I'd love to hear your take on it) and which tilt-shift lenses suit which scenarios...
Coming soon!
It would be really cool if you could compare raw files for color grading. The Nikon vs Canon vs Phase One vs Hasselblad.
Started with Nikon, happy with nikon, don't see me changing any time soon (I might, who knows!) I found I need to do less to an image than I do with other brands (yes, I have used other brands briefly in college/uni) and I mostly try to get it right in -camera with minor fettling, despite working in challenging conditions 🙂The flow just feels right 🙂
Same here!
finally someone with reasonable takes. I never understood why sony gets hate for ergonomics. I'm perfectly used to the layout, and I can use it effectively
Going on the idea of camera that met my needs in my budget is how I ended up on the Sony A7III. At the time it was the only one that offered a full frame mirrorless camera with 2 card slots. They also had a solid lens line up with support from Tamron and Sigma that was lacking on the Z and RF mounts.
Same with me
I agree with you about chosing a camera system based on lens choices: that's how I arrived at adding Canon recently: they had the 28-70/2.0, which is a big deal for me. After that, it was simply a matter of choosing a body and the rest of it. For pure image quality, I have a Fuji GFX system but that can't do every job.
Ive had a few goes with the Fuji GFX system and the lenses and IQ are great for studio work. Never tried one out and about though
@@TinHouseStudioUK Everything is weather sealed, so that's great. But the autofocus (on my 50R at least) is too slow for any kind of action. Mine mostly lives in the studio ;-)
I really want to try a GFX to replace my Nikon as I don't shoot action anymore, the fastest I get is some medium/faster-ish paced lifestyle/athletic portrait work.
Yeah.. I can't get into the camera wars any more than I could the computer OS wars. Any of the cameras we use today are significantly more capable than the cameras that took pictures we still look at 50.. 60 years later. I think I ended up with Canon because it was the name I knew the most. I stick with Canon because of my lenses but also because I know my way around. I know how to make it do the stuff I need it to do.
That said.. I did just pick up a Mamiya C330. Really excited to learn that one. ;-)
Sony's FE mount is compromised, my TS-E lenses don't work well.
Not focal length, angle of view. True, lenses are labelled with focal length, but it takes some learning or thinking to find a Canon RF lens comparable with my Lumix 7-14. I now use a Lumix S1R, having some my 5Ds as the S1R allows me to make photos I cannot with a 5Ds.
in 2019 I started using MFT cameras, first the Lumix G9 because my 5DS and F2.8 lenses were getting too heavy.
I have quite the collection now, each addition allows me the possibility of making photos I could not before. I have the S1R for my TS-E lenses.
See that’s what drew me to canon. I had a local store that allowed me to try out a few and while Canon 5d series is not the latest or greatest, it did what I wanted it to do. Still does what I want it to do… can’t see myself changing
Nail on the head - especially with RAWs and Colour Grading.
I find that Fujifilm suits my grading needs, especially with their Simulation, Classic Chrome.
I can't do the same with Canon Nikon or Sony, how colour is reproduced especially skin tones don't work for me even if I use calibration settings... just doesn't sit right with my eye, they look murky for me.
This may sound really dumb, but what exactly do you mean when referring to Grading an image? Is this just a description of the initial colour correction? I don't want to assume I know what you are referring to in case I am missing something!
Hey. Yes it’s the initial and subsequent colour, contrast and exposure changes
I've always shot with Sony. It's what I bought into early on. So far, I really like it but I'm also not a crazy Sony fan boy. My biggest complaint is that they don't have a tilt shift lens. I've been considering adapting a Canon or something but I'm not sure if I want to mess with that. I know I would love having a good tilt shift lens but I don't know that I really have an actual need for one.
I just picked up a used Canon 90mm tilt shift (the older version) for $450 and the Sigma EF-E adapter and I’m super happy with it on my A7IV. Small investment for what you can do with it.
@@RJ_Moonshot Interesting. I'll have to check out that option.
I used to go into Camera stores, try out the models, look at the lens line ups and talk to the sales staff … but back then I lived in Tokyo… so it was easy! Now I live in Florida and I exclusively buy online. There only 2 camera stores with 30 miles of my house and they both are disappointing. Unless you live in a major metropolis like NY, London or Tokyo… the options are limited. The rental house option is a great idea, allowing you really test out the gear that you will be working with. Personally, I think “feel” has a major impact on my choice of camera or car or shoes. I refuse to shoot, drive or wear something that I doesn’t feel right to me. Can I adapt? Sure, but the tool should fit ME and not the other way around! Unless there is not another option. Frankly, tactile user experience and feeling is one of my top 3 criteria for determining the accessibility and quality of an object’s industrial design. I agree that the big 3 camera makers are all mostly similar; that is why I chose Fujifilm. For me that hybrid “digital old-school “ feeling with mechanical dials and hard f-stops on the lenses appeals to how I want to work. I used a Canon 5D mk3 for years and despite the amazing potential of the RAW files… I hated the shooting experience. I produced less work and only for “work”. At the time it was a superb tool. But if you don’t use it, or if it doesn’t give you joy… then it becomes a burden.
I'm just an amateur who finds your videos interesting for whatever reason but when I started to get more serious about photography, the more I got to know my Canon M5 camera (mirrorless crop sensor "prosumer" level camera), the more I got annoyed and frustrated with it because controls would always be different depending on camera mode or some chosen option. And some dials for changing settings change their function depending on various button-presses, but change back to default before you got to make your change and other stay in the changed function until you change it back and so I end up changing shutter time when I mean to change ISO or the other way round (to name an example) and I could never automate my use of the camera.
I'm sure your older and professional Canon 5D cameras are not like that and it's something that I only started to run into over time, not something you'd immediately have issue with when trying a camera in a shop or renting.
But for me consistent operation of controls has become a bit of a pet-peeve since then!
Lens libraries: good thing about mirrorless is that you can adapt so many lenses from so many DSLR mounts and older film-cameras!
I really like your point about trying out the colour grading of images a camera produces before settling on any particular brand.
DPReview has a large selection of raw files available from their camera tests, that can be downloaded and played around with. However, apart from the studio test shots these are of course not shots of all comparable subjects, scenes, and lighting.
Do you use a colour checker passport?
I moved into Sony after my pro friend suggested it as it's what he uses and it's been a pleasure using their equipment the last 4 years. I don't plan on moving out of the ecosystem
Pretty sure grading was the same reason Sails Chong switched over from Hassleblad to Phase One. He does a lot of grading, compositing and lenses.
Its funny because Bite Shot moved from Canon to Nikon because she found the Nikon files were better for her than Canon.
I suppose its like you said - its down to how you work.
I've only shot Canon once and found the files way to warm, its just taste I suppose.
As a full-time newspaper and magazine photographer for 30 years - 25 of those as a staff photographer for large metropolitan daily newspapers, the choice is simple. And this is just my opinion based on my experience.
Dependability of the gear and the service is what carries the day.
In the film days, it was all Nikon bc NPS (Nikon Professional Services) had our backs no matter what, no matter where and no matter what it took to get our gear fixed in a day or two, get us loaners during repairs and loaner long lenses if we need more than what the staff had for big jobs like Super Bowls, political conventions, etc.
Then digital arrived and with it, changes at Nikon for reasons that I’m not aware of that resulted in a widespread conversion to Canon in the media sector.
Canon’s pro support (CPS) was more than ready in those days.
To me, it’s that simple.
Dependability.
And to be clear, today, I’m very much a Nikon guy. Now retired, back to shooting black-and-white film daily, much of it with old...Nikons.
Again, all of this just my opinion based on my experience.
And for the goobers like me who rarely shoot handheld I couldn’t care less about how it feels in my hands 🤣
"There's no difference really between a Canon, Sony or Nikon.."
Fuji: "Am I joke to you?"
Problem with Fuji is they only do medium format or APS-C....no full frame. Some people don't want to shoot cropped or have the money to do medium format beasts.
I went with Nikon just for how it felt in my hand.
Are you Chris Packham with hair ??????
Do cameras from the same brand grade alike?
Good question. I can’t talk for all brands, but different canon models do not grade alike. Similar,but not the same
Let me keep it simple. It is simply personal preference.
"Pro photographers should choose their camera brands based on grading the camera's raw file" does not work well when choosing a film camera.
"Pro photographers should choose their camera brands based on an evaluation of the available lenses" does not work well when choosing a fixed lens camera.