Locomotives & Coal cars left Abandoned in a neighborhood. George's Creek Railroad
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Today on Urbex Underground I'm exploring some Locomotives & Coal cars. The trains are right in the middle of a neighborhood. This Was very cool to explore. I do plan to make a longer video next time. The Locomotives use to pull the Coal cars.
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I grew up in Cumberland and still learning a lot of railroad history. I've been a railfan since I was a child. Thanks for sharing this bit of history.
Sorry for the late replay. You are more then welcome. Have you been to the B&O RR?
The gck rr wasnt abandoned. Csx last ran trains on this line until 04-05. Afterwards gck was aquired by a private owner and serviced the paper mill in Luke, MD. When the mill closed up the gck ceased operations but i believe is still under private ownership. The line has been dormant sine 2019. It was just recently announced that the wmsr signed a long term lease agreement with the gck to operate excursion trains with the potential to move some freight (most likely coal from the near by mines). Wmsr is also acquiring the 2 diesel locomotives as well. The switcher locomotive has been sold but not moved, i believe the caboose is also privately owned and possibly for sale. Apparently wmsr is going to try to have the line back in service by Christmas.
Thanks for your message. And good info
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 you're welcome.
@@Midnight-tw3gpThere are still operating coal mines in Maryland!!?? Does the governor know about this? He's been crowing about the impending closure of the Brandon Shores power station and plans to shutdown every coal power station in the state.
@@spaceflight1019 yeah there's still a few active strip mines in Maryland.
Excellent work on this video and excellent work on the narrative of this production as well. As stated previously, you’ve really done your homework on this production and it shows throughout. This is deserving of an A+++++. Thank you for sharing and posting.
Thank you for your comment. It was a cool fine.
The western maryland scenic railroad has purchased the George's creek railroad (summer 2024?). I believe if you continued across the turntable and into the tunnel under frostburg and the abandoned cut and old rail grade you would be at the end of the George's creek trackage. I read somewhere that the abandoned line and subsequent encroachments would present tough challenges both legally and physically.
@@robertsherman4433 thanks for your reply.this is really cool info you sent to me. I love it.
Wonderful capture. Love it. Greetings Joe 😊
Thank you for your message I’m glad you liked the video
Dang nice video! Great to see some old paint on some old locomotives!
Thank you
Blows my mind to see the 25 formerly chessie system 6400 being left to waste away again
I think they are slowly removing. I heard from a neighbor that they might be fixing them up and moving them to a New location.
Nice that they named the "WM" 25 the William Paschal Price. Mr. Price was shooting color slides and movies of Western Maryland steam and early diesels circa 1950 when most rail fans were still shooting black-and-white wedge shots of engines.
Thanks for your message. It was a fun video to do.
Nice information about the GCK and C&P railroads. I pass these often when going to Duckie's in Piedmont, meeting up with my bud from Westernport. Duckie's has the best chicken wings, BTW. 😉
Thank you I’ll have to check out that restaurant one day.
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 I usually order 1/2 dozen of 4 different flavors, then I have some to take home for later.
@@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards you’re making me hungry. Lol
Good tour and locos yes
Thanks for your message.
Western Maryland Scenic RR. Switcher, caboose and coal cars gone.
Thanks for your message. When did that happen? Glad I did the video
What happened to the Alco S6 at the very beginning of the video ?
Thanks for your reply. I have no idea. That’s a really good question. Lol
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 The Alco S6 and the T6 were Alco's last two models of the end cab diesel switcher produced beginning in the late 1950's. They were never built in the same quantities as the Alco S1, S2 or S4 but the all time champ of S6 production was the Southern Pacific which acquired 70 of that particular model before they started dispersing them to various short lines and industrial roads all over the country in the late 1970's.
WMSR should take all the stock and restore the two lines to join up as one. if possible
@@jackchatfield5464 thanks for your reply. What’s WMSR?
Sounds like you really did you "Home Work" on this video! Thanx, was interesting.
I sure did do some research. I liked exploring this place. You are more then welcome
Nice video. I like that "white" geep.
Thank you I had fun making it.
Going by the fact one side of that boxcar shows signs of repaint work on one side and fresher paint around the door area on the other,the fact the hoppers seem to have ballast residue, the posted sign on the one locomotive and the leading locomotive while weathered is in better condition for a paint job from the 60s and 70s predating the final vermillion red and white " circus " WM livery than the paint job on the other former WM unit repainted way after it left Chessie Systems/CSX service tends to make me think the stock is not so much abandoned but part if a shoestring budget museum or similarly shoestring budget scenic railway.
Wow that’s incredible information
Good video. But you need to work on your presentation
Thanks for letting me know. I’ll keep that in mind with my next video I do. Thanks for your message.
I have a picture of that black gp9 (WM 25) from 1972
Now that would be cool to see.
If there's still a connection to the outside world, maybe CSX could retrieve this lot and take it over to the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad for restoration.
There used to be more trains. I was told by a neighbor they’ve where removed. They are moving them to some location that I forgot the name of.
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 Wait, WHAT?! 😲🤯
@@mlptf yea I was shock to hear that.
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 why couldn't they just send one of their lighter engines down the line, or even rebuild the track, or even get some trucks down to fetch them, so that they wouldn't be left abandoned forever? I really wanted them to run again!
@@mlptf I think they can’t use the line due to fact the land changed owners or something like that. The neighbor said something interesting to me. They got to watch them remove the trains.
The MPA ballast cars are far from home.
How far? If I may ask lol
are they for sale
Thanks for your question. I’m actually not sure I know they have been slowly getting removed.
Do they still use these or want these
They don’t use them. I heard that they might be fixing them up and moving them to a different location.
Do you know when they move them to the new location if they are still abandoned maybe a museum could come get them
@@Hozy780 good question I know there was more trains there. I don’t remember when some of trains where moved. A neighbor told me, but I don’t remember now.
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 ok
Those cars can never get on a class a railroad due to there trucks being the grease type
What you mean by grease type
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22friction bearing trucks aren't allowed on class 1s anymore...
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 class 1’s so heavily governed that friction bearing trucks can even be moved on class 1’s.. they would need to be disassembled and moved by truck… its sad.. basically scrap.. the engines and caboose can be moved but not cars..
@@flir67man84 They could jack the cars up and temporarily install roller bearing trucks for the move. Kind of labor intensive but it can be done. The ban on plain "friction" bearing trucks is primarily an AAR [American Association of Railroads] interchange rule. I believe there have been some cases where the main line carrier accepted cars or locomotives having trucks with friction bearings for short moves at restricted speed. It really depends on how friendly the connecting railroad is and how busy they are. Incidentally, the term "friction bearing" was invented by the Timken company as a marketing ploy when they first introduced roller bearings to the railroad industry - to emphasize the difference in rolling resistance between their bearings and traditional bearings.
They were never abandoned to begin with…
... can someone hijack these locomotives, since they are an abandoned asset, you should be able to claim ownership thru "Adverse Possession" 😅
I need a GP-7 or larger for an abandoned rail line that starts in the Northside of downtown Tyler Texas, and runs north about 7 miles 🤔
That "Posted" paper that's on the engine can be nullified with a can of white paint. I bet that rail equipment isn't listed in the NMVTIS database 😄
That’s a really good question and the answer is… you would probably get in big trouble. Lol
@@Urbex_Undergroundexploring22 ... 😆 ikr
Some good info here.................. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Creek_Railway
That’s the same info I found for the video. Lol.
Thanks for that link. I pass these often en route to Westernport and Piedmont, WV. Always wondered why someone hadn't claimed them.
@@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards your more then welcome