Andy Goldstein RIPS INTO Man United Fan Over What Determines PROGRESS For Man United! 🏆📉

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @benk79
    @benk79 2 дні тому +57

    I think Andy Goldstein is having a stroke. This is one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard.

  • @bronxrams
    @bronxrams 2 дні тому +81

    Andy has lost it completely

    • @JM-1Le-d9p
      @JM-1Le-d9p 2 дні тому

      He stirs everything up.

    • @TheMercWithMouth
      @TheMercWithMouth 2 дні тому +4

      Quite sure he never had the minerals in the first place..
      He's a Tesco value pundit.

    • @circle1552
      @circle1552 День тому

      He’s a 🔔🔚

    • @skiski508
      @skiski508 День тому

      ​@@circle1552😂😂

  • @archgongfermor102
    @archgongfermor102 2 дні тому +34

    Andy realised halfway through his flawed logic, but his pride wouldn't allow him to back down

  • @DNOPLAYSGAMES
    @DNOPLAYSGAMES 2 дні тому +20

    Poor Darren, locked in a small studio with a lunatic in serious decline

  • @andyc2433
    @andyc2433 2 дні тому +18

    Delusional. You can have 3 good games all season and win a cup, how is that progression?

    • @hoganrules
      @hoganrules День тому +1

      7 games to win a cup ain’t it

    • @andyc2433
      @andyc2433 День тому +1

      @hoganrules 6 to win the fa Cup but even then you can scrape through without playing good.
      United last season scraped through against Newport, forrest, Liverpool and Coventry. 8th, bottom of the ucl group but they talk about progress

  • @GazShez1975
    @GazShez1975 2 дні тому +28

    By Andys reckoning Wigan winning the Fa Cup but being relegated was progress

    • @jamz22
      @jamz22 День тому +1

      👏🏾👏🏾

    • @jamz22
      @jamz22 День тому

      Or tottenham winning the caraboa cup in 2008 👀

    • @benk79
      @benk79 День тому

      @@GazShez1975 spot on mate.

  • @sedatefir57
    @sedatefir57 2 дні тому +9

    Sorry Andy, I am with Benty on this one.

  • @lukeharris7244
    @lukeharris7244 2 дні тому +6

    They've just drew to FC Twente at home!!! There is no way they are getting in champions league

  • @anthonycampbell2151
    @anthonycampbell2151 2 дні тому +7

    WTF is Goldstein talking about? Finishing 15th and winning the 2nd rate European Trophy is progress now? Wow!! The standards of Man Utd have gone to the dogs

  • @sonark289
    @sonark289 2 дні тому +10

    Goldstein just asking random silly questions

    • @melletard
      @melletard 10 годин тому

      Haha right! I like Andy more than most on talk sport, but this something I've always noticed. He creates these either this or that scenarios. Like, what... Why can't I want top 4 plus a cup. Why do I have to take lower position and a cup.

  • @amakky1989
    @amakky1989 2 дні тому +7

    The people that are surprised by Andy’s take are forgetting that he’s a gloryhunter. He only cares about lifting trophies regardless of league finishes. He doesn’t understand what progression mean. That’s why when Arsenal finished 2nd then Arteta is a “failure”. If he was a kid in 2005 he’d be a Chelsea fan

    • @Nicks_cfc
      @Nicks_cfc 2 дні тому

      You being an Arsenal fan explain everything about your comment 😂 it’s so sad you guys have to play down the champions league just because you have no idea how to win it, it’s not for everyone tho

  • @bulliboyz
    @bulliboyz 2 дні тому +11

    How can United finish 15th and win the Europa Cup 3 years running, if winning the Europa Cup puts UTD into the CL the season after?

    • @allenmartinalmeida4728
      @allenmartinalmeida4728 День тому

      It’s united .. the only logic for every question, we are the biggest club in the world

    • @marcuspinkney7328
      @marcuspinkney7328 День тому +2

      I think teams used to be able to fall back into the Europa league if they finished bottom of the group or something- not sure with the new CL structure.

    • @stevenmah2070
      @stevenmah2070 День тому

      ​@@marcuspinkney7328the new format is only if you win Europa league then you go UCL but this new format won't allow you to drop, meaning if you fail, you're out

    • @marcuspinkney7328
      @marcuspinkney7328 День тому

      @@stevenmah2070 ahh gotcha, thanks

    • @bulliboyz
      @bulliboyz 20 годин тому

      @@marcuspinkney7328 I took that into consideration, I think it was if a team finished 3rd in CL group. I’m not sure Goldstein realised that it would be such incredible odds to drop out the CL and win the Europa twice more. Or how the format works. It would be embarrassing for UEFA to have a team finish 15th in a domestic league competing in their elite cup competition. It would be a mockery of the claim that the very best teams in Europe win this cup if united lift the trophy.

  • @TheInevitables1892
    @TheInevitables1892 2 дні тому +3

    This is the most accurate representation of a Man Utd fan I have ever seen 👏

  • @Fosterzafc
    @Fosterzafc 2 дні тому +8

    BOTS 🤖

  • @philbourne548
    @philbourne548 2 дні тому +6

    A truly idiotic conversation

  • @Kevinjj1991
    @Kevinjj1991 2 дні тому +1

    Goldstein coping well with Uniteds decline, this level of mental gymnastics would have won gold at the Olympics. Getting ahead of himself winning the Europa League after tonight's result

  • @ameerchawla6369
    @ameerchawla6369 2 дні тому +2

    Andy, leave the job before the brain leaves you, one of the worst radio Muppet, need to clean my ears after everytime lolll

  • @garyjohnson3751
    @garyjohnson3751 2 дні тому +1

    I honestly think most Utd fans would accept 15th

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 2 дні тому +4

    Irrelevant small club 😂

    • @Bert-lw1ot
      @Bert-lw1ot 2 дні тому +2

      So much for having a day off, huh?
      My guy, do SOMETHING with your life

    • @zorashki
      @zorashki День тому

      @@Bert-lw1ot a comment on youtube means no life? wtf is this.

  • @stevet828
    @stevet828 2 дні тому +3

    Premier League over anything..

  • @eL--RaL
    @eL--RaL 2 дні тому +2

    This is a new format..You'll play 2 to 4 of the big boys in Europa league cl own 😂 No one is getting thru the back door like the previous format...Just like the champions league 😂

  • @Rech10
    @Rech10 2 дні тому +2

    Andy has the same logic as a 2 year old.

  • @gavinparry5426
    @gavinparry5426 2 дні тому +3

    Man U to beat Real 1-0 at home.....Lol hilarious!

  • @martinpeters9753
    @martinpeters9753 2 дні тому +2

    Andy reckons that the biggest club in the world are now a cup team 😂😂

  • @hoots151
    @hoots151 2 дні тому +2

    Bettering your points and getting further in Europa or champions league every year until you win is progression

  • @Jabbykins
    @Jabbykins 2 дні тому +1

    Fans remember and celebrate trophies won, not "remember those 3 consecutive seasons where we finished 4th, 3rd and then 2nd and won nothing" "yeah those were the best years of our club" I very much doubt it..
    Obviously, this is an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather finish 10th and win the Europa League than finish 2nd and win nothing. People aren't going to remember the times your club 'progressed' each year in the Prem, but they'll remember the year you won a trophy as it will be cemented in your club's history.
    But I guess it depends on what each of us individually regard as success. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, despite most people agreeing with Benty, which is completely justified.

  • @IISoMaLiaNII
    @IISoMaLiaNII 2 дні тому +1

    I’d just like to point out that Goldstein and this other clown caller do not represent the majority of United fans opinions. 15th in the table would be an abysmal embarrassment and 100% the opposite of progression regardless of winning the Europa League. Shambolic take

  • @AlanMorris-t3g
    @AlanMorris-t3g 2 дні тому +1

    The FA cup means far less nowadays than it used too.
    The big teams focus far more on the champions league and the top of the premier league and just play the reserves in most of the domestic cup competitions.
    Andy and ETH are totally delusional.

  • @TheInevitables1892
    @TheInevitables1892 2 дні тому +1

    This is the most accurate representation of a Man Utd fan I have ever seen 👏 Andy next week, ‘if Utd get relegated but the team finds a bag full of skittles who are the real winners’ 😂

  • @kevinkyte559
    @kevinkyte559 2 дні тому +2

    Goldstien is only looking at getting in the champs league once.
    Progression is getting in season in season out and that means finishing higher up the table.

  • @MattRobotnik
    @MattRobotnik 2 дні тому +2

    Last time Man U were in the Champions League they got slammed out at the bottom of an easy group

  • @kubashneegovender6918
    @kubashneegovender6918 2 дні тому +1

    Goldstein has lost it

  • @adalderson6269
    @adalderson6269 2 дні тому +1

    Too many drugs 🤣

  • @chd1694
    @chd1694 2 дні тому +2

    Manchester United premier league and Europa league and carabao, FA cup champions. Quadruple

  • @joesheppards1
    @joesheppards1 58 хвилин тому

    Man U standards have fallen so low it’s tragic. The standards should be have we won the premier league or champions league?

  • @braingers
    @braingers День тому

    People are stupid....... I can't believe I'm agreeing with Andy!!!!!!!

  • @chd1694
    @chd1694 2 дні тому +1

    Lets put every premier league team and 4th league teams in Europe into the champions league. Go fifa

  • @raymondpienaar5177
    @raymondpienaar5177 День тому

    Andy... How is it even logical that a team wins a Champions League but then finishes 17th in the League you would call that Progression... My Gosh... And you call yourself a Football Pundit... Ridiculous

  • @Red_Anachronism
    @Red_Anachronism 2 дні тому

    We'd all be happy for united to win the leauge Cup every season, as long as ten hag can stay 😂😂

  • @braingers
    @braingers День тому

    17th and winning the Champions league for Arsenal is them going backwards hahahahahahahahahahahaha......... that shows you where Darren's head is at its all about the Premier League!!!!!!!! get a grip!!!!!!

  • @DuncanBerryman
    @DuncanBerryman День тому

    Andy just already making excuses for United finishing 17th this season😂

  • @MrJammydodger20
    @MrJammydodger20 10 годин тому

    I'm a UTD fan but even i cant stand up for Andy on this. Is his brain broken?

  • @phildemetriou440
    @phildemetriou440 День тому

    Goldstein was 'saved' by United winning the FA cup.
    It was his and ETH's 'get out of jail free' card.
    Everything is hypothetical with him.

  • @markwilliams4274
    @markwilliams4274 День тому

    The likes of Goldstein and Goldbridge are keeping that clown in a job by spreading their Ten Hag positive spew. Everyone can see he is not going to succeed at United but them. He will never restore them to the top of English/European football, £616 million spent by him on his team in 3 years, no style of play,no patterns of play, constant player leeks and disharmony all they have is two lucky cup wins under his watch. They are on course to match their 8th place finish on minus goal difference of last season they have not played anyone of note this season except for Liverpool who ended up embarrassing them 3.0 and were playing a rondon on the edge of United's box before slicing them wide open at will.

  • @martinembleton2715
    @martinembleton2715 День тому

    Andy is half right.
    15th in the league is a bit low......but i understand his argument. He simoly putting all his eggs in the Europa League basket to get in CL.
    But itll be easier for Man Utd to qualify for CL by winning Europa. If they do that and the money the CL brings, happy days. Getting 4th in PL will be harder than winning Europa.
    It is just a one season solution though. Andy said something like would you rather finish bottom half of PL and win Europa 3 years in a row. Its impossible to do that. After year 1, you'd be in CL, and you can no longer drop back in Europa like you could past when knocked out of CL.

  • @danielevans8728
    @danielevans8728 2 дні тому

    Any team winning the Europa League is a big achievement.. but you can't ever finish 15th. Talk about lowering the bar..

  • @joshuagovi
    @joshuagovi День тому

    This man is absurd, so you telling me you get relegated finish 18th, 19th just below and win the champions league you progressing?

  • @Shood33
    @Shood33 День тому

    Oh come Man U won’t win anything 😂. City gifts united with cups so they can feel good about themselves, united can’t win anything themselves 😂. Not even the Europa league if they can’t beat teams of 18 million euros 😂😂

  • @philelson113
    @philelson113 День тому

    Andy Goldstein talks absolute nonsense, the yardstick for progression is going forward. Even if you move the goalposts for number of teams that get in the CL to 10, you haven't progressed simply by getting in the top 10. Look at Everton when they got in the top 4, got absolutely embarrassed in the CL because it takes more than just getting to the top 4 for one season. No good getting second one year only to fall back to 7th the following year. Winning the odd cup is not progression if your league position is always 15th.

  • @ramhal4381
    @ramhal4381 День тому

    Winning Europa league?! How about winning against FC Twente first 😂😂😂

  • @pascalpitchen3219
    @pascalpitchen3219 2 дні тому

    Boring as discussion this. If finished this, would you be happy with that, etc etc blablabla. Very boring topic and content.

  • @chrissilvester5663
    @chrissilvester5663 День тому

    Andy Goldstein is an absolute embarrassment to United. I've literally no words. How Darren Bent still got any hair left is beyond me being in the studio with that melt

  • @jamz22
    @jamz22 День тому

    Is goldstein forgetting what happened last year in the champions league.. they got absolutely embarrassed, that was after finishing third, (because of liverpools dip that season) and they just pipped newcastle but they was not a good side. They got lucky. They then went into last season finished 8th and bottom of the champions league group and had the worse season in their history and now im hearing them saying 15th and a cup is progress. 😂😂
    Also the caller cant compared arteta to this clown cause arteta won the fa in his first season and ever since you have seen arsenal progress year on year with a whole new squad.
    Ten had has spent crazy money and still has no identity 😂😂
    United are absolutely done out here now and i love to see this

  • @mrjesabi
    @mrjesabi 2 дні тому

    Andy is the personification of a deluded United fan,the club is in a slump and he's dreaming up scenarios for keeping United in the mix.😅😅

  • @gustaaf1892
    @gustaaf1892 День тому

    Is Goldstein crazy? You should always aim to win the league, which is so far removed from what United is capable of based on the current squad and the current coach. Finishing in the bottom half of the table is utter failure no matter what you do in the Europa League. United won't be winning the EL anyway, so that is just wishful thinking. The transfer window was mediocre at best, so unlike what most fans think, we're not better than we were last season, especially not with ETH still in charge after he had his contract stupidly extended when there was no need to do so.

  • @mattwoods478
    @mattwoods478 2 дні тому

    Progression isn't measured by cups. Does it help...absolutely. improvement in the way the team plays on the pitch, increased win percentage, and improved league position from the previous year (regardless of difference in total points) are better markers.

  • @AndrewLMarksmusic
    @AndrewLMarksmusic День тому

    Uh oh .. another Goldstein discussion where we dilute the topic to a binary success and failure metric. United got through the backdoor to qualify for Europa and are already showing they're not up to the level, so what's the point if you get into the champs league? You'll get knocked out in the groups, your team is clearly declining when you look at league form .. where does that leave you for the season after? Or do you think you'll make these backdoor entrances every year???

  • @daniellockett9975
    @daniellockett9975 День тому

    Lets have it right, winning a cup is a bit of a lottery. Certain factors can go your way in winning a cup, luck, luck of an easy draw etc. The league table does not lie, that's where you are measured in progress

  • @tatendanathan1836
    @tatendanathan1836 День тому

    Wtf is that guy talking about? Painful to listen to. Feel sorry for Bent he deals with this everyday.

  • @allenmartinalmeida4728
    @allenmartinalmeida4728 День тому

    There is something called correlation.. the chances of winning the ucl by a team finishing 17th ??

  • @wazr4338
    @wazr4338 День тому

    I remember when goldstein was good on sports bar and durham was on drive, talksport has gone backwards since

  • @elicastelli9728
    @elicastelli9728 2 дні тому

    If Arsenal finished 17th that mans they've been beaten by most of the clubs in the Premier League. They're getting better every season for the past 3 years - 17th would be disastrous and undermine all their progress. Goldstein is sounding like a Politician.

  • @chromeboy92
    @chromeboy92 День тому

    I have never in my life watched such a dumb argument. What is Andy smoking?

  • @plato2030
    @plato2030 День тому

    Here after 1-1 draw with FC 20. United is going to finish 15th without any cups. Ten hag is gone

  • @BadAppleBlues
    @BadAppleBlues День тому

    I know that Andy comes out with some guff at times but surely even he can't actually believe what he is saying here?

  • @seanstimpson5420
    @seanstimpson5420 2 дні тому

    Welfare check on Andy? Embarrassing.

  • @elmochacho3
    @elmochacho3 День тому

    What good is it to be in the CL if you've absolutely no chance of winning it. He's talking utter nonsense.

  • @michaelbarry8444
    @michaelbarry8444 День тому

    Andy is only a sing when were winning merchant never moaned when utd were winning trophies

  • @mrjesabi
    @mrjesabi 2 дні тому

    The muppet thinks winning a cup is progressive no matter what happens in league form.😅😅

  • @samsmall4011
    @samsmall4011 День тому

    This is why I’ve stopped watching this 2bit segment

  • @jimmyzeaal
    @jimmyzeaal День тому

    Andy just knows theres no hope for United progression so hes just clinging on to winning a couple cups

  • @ulfanfinneriksen4643
    @ulfanfinneriksen4643 День тому

    Andy what are Manchester United doing 😂😂😂

  • @BG_MKY
    @BG_MKY 2 дні тому

    Delusional to think man u will do any thing this season they will not get top 6 and they won't even get to The semis off the europa cup

  • @ndum2za
    @ndum2za День тому

    Andy waffling again. Imagine my shock.

  • @dannydowdeswell246
    @dannydowdeswell246 День тому

    Go from 4th to 18th and win the CL and get relegated sounds like a downer to me.

  • @kkwi5252
    @kkwi5252 День тому

    Man United broke Goldstein, I’m here for it 🍿

  • @joshuagovi
    @joshuagovi День тому

    This man Goldstein is a clown if he thinks 15th or 10th is good

  • @dioncalum
    @dioncalum 2 дні тому

    Something in the water over there @ talksport Penant said so Man U is jus no good and that facts

  • @RumPool
    @RumPool 2 дні тому

    I love Benty! Dude is just cool and perfect for this role.

  • @aubreymokgotle259
    @aubreymokgotle259 2 дні тому

    How TF do you get 15th and get a Europa League spot ??

  • @antonwill1656
    @antonwill1656 День тому

    AG must be whineding us up…just to get clicks

  • @KondwelaniBanda-hj4wf
    @KondwelaniBanda-hj4wf День тому

    How do they allow such people on talksport 🤔

  • @JeffSana30
    @JeffSana30 День тому

    Andy needs to keep off the Charlie 😂

  • @robzombie5928
    @robzombie5928 День тому

    Goldstien as wrong as wrong can be

  • @kar4750
    @kar4750 2 дні тому +6

    Erecttion always Hug is the GOAT manager. Won 2x trophies with just gross spending €800M.

  • @conormartin3015
    @conormartin3015 День тому

    Goldstein talks some shite at times.

  • @mitchsheffield8140
    @mitchsheffield8140 2 дні тому

    What Andy on about? He’s totally lost

  • @stevekayks1tv765
    @stevekayks1tv765 16 годин тому

    Andy please have a day off mate

  • @joegrehan8608
    @joegrehan8608 День тому

    How can Man U even be in this position.

  • @lovejoy3347
    @lovejoy3347 2 дні тому +1

    there will be no progression until 70% of those players are gone. Casemiro. Sancho. Mount. Dalot. Lindelof. Onana. Hojlund. Even Zirkzee. These players will never get you Top 4 let alone contenders for the League.

    • @jacobryansr
      @jacobryansr 2 дні тому

      Dalot has been key to almost every win and positive performance the team has had, not sure how you came to that conclusion

    • @aubreymokgotle259
      @aubreymokgotle259 2 дні тому

      You left out Bruno & Rashford , & since you did it's clear you don't see the real problem. Those 2 should have long been sold and 10Hag fired as well..only Lindelof should be sold in your mentioned players. They have been there for over 5 coaches sacked

  • @donkconler1293
    @donkconler1293 2 дні тому

    Where is the bricktop clip?

  • @sambog2635
    @sambog2635 День тому

    15th 😂😂😂😂😂 wtf 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @garyjohnson3751
    @garyjohnson3751 2 дні тому

    What does it mean

  • @BlankOra
    @BlankOra День тому

    Win is a win

  • @dombrown-tz3zu
    @dombrown-tz3zu 2 дні тому

    Bizarre

  • @mrpotato442
    @mrpotato442 2 дні тому

    We need to be in top 4 end of season no ifs or buts.....United should be challenging for a title but we're long way off at the moment. Need to walk before we can run.

  • @mabsrahman8135
    @mabsrahman8135 2 дні тому

    Managers gets sacked by December so it is a failure. Ask Villas Boas and Mourinho

  • @Flipmode1900
    @Flipmode1900 2 дні тому

    Goldstein had the exact voice as Superhands

  • @malcolmodoy2651
    @malcolmodoy2651 2 дні тому

    What Andy doesn't realize is that now European championships are in a league format. No more luck of the draw that they benefited from last season in the FA Cup

    • @Marcthered
      @Marcthered 2 дні тому

      Do you honestly think he doesn't know that

  • @illiteratethug3305
    @illiteratethug3305 2 дні тому +1

    3:40 Proper David Brent vibes for "seventeenth..."