BETTER THAN THE OLD ONE? 2024 TIGUAN REVIEW
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In this video I review the latest version of VW's biggest seller, the Tiguan SUV
This video can be divided into the following sections;
0:00 teaser
0:03 graphics by @haslerdesigns
0:08 what this video is about
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1:18 the perfect book for VW fans
1:55 the spec and price of this Tiguan
2:52 the exterior of the new Tiguan
4:56 the interior of the new Tiguan
9:58 the boot of the new Tiguan
10:56 the 'sinister' tow bar
11:14 a quick look under the bonnet/hood
12:00 driving the new Tiguan
20:10 is it better than the old one?
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Flipping hell, worrying that you think like me😅I was going to use that just to annoy VW. I still will😄 Interesting that VW UK have only now, 9 years after the bad PR of Dieselgate realised that the brand’s cult following is something worth exploiting because it’s one thing the Korean’s can’t head hunt. Shame they sent a message to main dealers telling not to lend people with cameras demo cars using my video as an example and then lied to me, one of the brands biggest fans, about it🤷
Had this car for 2 weeks now. Owned the last two iterations and this is by far and away superior in every way that matters.
It does seem that those who own the car already see it in a better light than those that don't, happens a lot and you could say it's not exactly unbiased opinion but I am open minded. Would love to know how exactly is it "far and away superior" Scott? Genuinely interested, do let us know trim level, options and RRP. Thanks.
@@volkswizardAs the owner of the previous 2.0 TDI 2019 R-line with top spec, I see that the new model has improved in many things. New one has a better noise isolation, better audio system(the harman kardon one has 2 more speakers in comparison to old dynaudio), more comfortable seats with massage and ventilation(old one only had heating and so called massage using lumbar support), bigger boot, better infotainment system and perfect wireless charging spot for 2 phones of any size with cooling, head up display that is projected to the wind shield instead of a separate glass piece, better driving assistants, better Matrix LED head lights(this is something you would typically see on top spec Audi). Improved interior quality - previous one had much more hard plastic everywhere. Improved adaptive suspension. Also the new plug-in hybrid version blows the competition out of the water range on electric power wise. The gear selector and wind shield wiper placement is actually alright and you get used to it fast. The only thing that I dislike is the absence of physical buttons for climate controls, but at least they improved the user interface and it's responsiveness to make it easier to use and left some touch buttons with backlight. I have ordered the 2024 1.5eTSI R-Line myself and I was choosing between the latest BMW X1 or previous gen 2023 Tiguan.
OK, fair points. Only issue is a lot of that is optional (HUD, adaptive suspension, matrix LED, upgraded seats) or doesn't apply to test car (plug in hybrid, R Line spec). And yet every model loses the separate climate control interface, puts the air vents in a far less efficient position and has exterior styling that, while subjective, is almost unanimously seen as a backward step) and costs significantly more than the old one. I wouldn't say that was far and away superior unless you spec it taking advantage of all the improved options (which from past experience not that many people actually indulge in with a Tiguan) and then we have the not so small matter of the price.
@@volkswizard - my biggest beef with VW is that the Plug In Hybrid in basic form costs £42k. Even the Kia Sportage equivalent is £40,550. Why? UK Road Tax is huge for cars over £40k. You have to pay an extyra £410 supplement on TOP of the standard £180 - and you have to pay this for FIVE years. So that's a road tax premium of £2,050 for a £40k car. Why don't UK manufacturers offer plug-in hybrid versions at £39,999K and then let cusotmers add features if they want to pay more road tax? It's also madness that plug-in hybrids are only avaialble on expensive mid or large models from the manufactuers. They don't offer their smaller SUVs with a plug-in option. For example, there is no Plug-in hybrid VW T-ROC. Kia don't offer a smaller Plug-in hybrid SUV either. Nor Hyundai. Why??
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I loved my 21 plate Tiguan 1.5 Life, it did everything without any fuss.
After 72 Golf 1.5 Style, 23 Taigo 1.0 R Line, 73 Taigo 1.5 Style and now a 24 T-Roc 1.5 R Line….I still rate that Tiguan (its a toss up between the Tiguan and T-Roc which is my fav)
I sat in one of these today and was impressed with the quality of the cabin inside - however the price of this car is insane, many items that other manufactures include as standard are options on the car which pushes up the price considerably (I was looking at the R-Line. Also (haven’t driven it) but I’m not convinced that 150bhp is enough for a car this size….stick 4 people in there with that power, and I’d think it would feel a little sluggish - even my current hatchback has 182bhp. I’ll reserve final judgement until I drive one.
Good point regarding performance when loaded up.
Dad has just ordered one on the match all paint options bar oyrx white were free.
Just ordered one
A sucker is born every minute 😂
@@mas1001Some peoples don’t buy this car just because some can’t afford it and then you complain about the design. We know that it is for the price. But to be honest it is a beautiful car and VW really wants to make their cars more premium which is very good.
@@mas1001 and what are you, a car expert- not
So ugly 😅
Last gen was real good looking sharp lines...looks like a bloop
Er, no, it’s a good looking well conceived car and it’s great to drive - fact
I prefer my MK2 and does nothing to make me want to spend £40k for less tech than I have now.
I hope it looks a lot better in the metal. The old R-Line I considered as a runaround as I liked the look. The R-Line version of this will have its work cut out.
The old one was a super cool, trendsetting design which most other SUVs couldn't match. This one looks like a Qashqai or some other generic SUV with a VW badge slapped on it. Sad to see...
Literally at the start where Andrew shows the side profile and I 100% thought Qashqai as well!
I thought it was a Toureg.!
I didn't see Qashqai but I can now, I could see a Lexus as well. Can I see a VW? Err...no
I did an Instagram story on the day of filming and made the same mistake!
Same story with the mk8 Golf, looks Japanese not like a Golf. Mk7 Golf is peak VW
best engine choice for most people I had a Karoq sportline with this engine
1.5 will sell very well and it's not bad.
I've yet to actually see or sit in one but I'm afraid I'm not impressed. The front end just doesn't look right but worst of all is the dashboard - gear selector on the right with wipers and indicators on the left - no thank you. Yes, in the 1970s you had wipers on the left with the indicators on the right which took a lot of getting used to when they reversed the positions so that will cause confusion but the slab or tablet style screen in the middle of the dashboard just looks awful.
The funny thing is on the ID3 which where that shifter originated, they kept the 2 left and right stalks. It's a brave move to mess with this and you have got to wonder how much they saved doing so. I think Golf 8.5 has swerved this thankfully.
With adaptive chassis control is it only worth specing it to the car if you're going to drive it in Sport mode?
Is VW losing its design identity? Debate open….
2 reasons - firstly it was hard to improve on some of their designs, Golf 7.5, Mk2 Tiguan for example so to change in order to keep things fresh, they had to be worse. Also ID range saw a new design language for VW, I thought this might not infiltrate the main range but almost as if they want ID range to look more normal they are now making the mainstream cars look like the ID range. That's a brave move and going by the comments about new Passat and now the Tiguan, not a good one.
We have had one for the last two years
Thanks for the review. The road where I live are a rough so a touch screen is hard to use. The old heater button was good to latch onto and count the clicks without looking away from the road. I think I'll wait for a manual gearbox to appear before seriously looking.
The boot size is not really 652l but 490l. Worth to mention that. The bigger value is only if you calculate the space for the spare tyre but it is useless. For Skoda Superb they say it is 660l. Have you ever seen a Superb's boot? It is a lot bigger than the Tiguan's. Boot floor of Tiguan is only 86cm x 100cm with a height of 45cm.
I can only quote the information supplied to me by VW Press Office.
What no tire cmon - i hope i can get tore with model . Let me know on this . Thanks
Like the new back end the rest is just bland compared to the older shape
Great video Andrew! The exterior design of the Elegance version definitely evokes second-generation Touareg vibes to me. Totally agree with other commentators: The R-line version of the new Tiguan is definitely the version to choose from, and this SUV needs 4motion. I am a long-term Passat owner, and before that, Golf and Polo, so I would not personally choose the Tiguan, although my wife wants the R-line version. I will either go nuts and choose a completely different car brand or head for the Der Neue Passat R-line or perhaps even the ID.7 in wagon form.
Pretty sure the Elegance has massage front seats
Great drive and r3view Andrew - I personally dislike large screen and think MBenz does this better - front styling so bland and for a top seller it looses individual look of previous gen. Passat wagon every time 👍
I like the old tiguan, specially r line looks better . This new face nah
Also new passat looks like a toyota
Perfect timing speaking of running on two cylinders..and 2CV drives by! I have a 2CV and a UP GTI.
Appreciate your content and work, I have ACF50 corrosion protected both my cars since watching your video on the subject.
Oh damn it! I didn't associate 2 cylinder 2CV and cylinder on demand! Oh well, thanks for making the link. Thanks for the kind words also, appreciate it. ACF-50 is magic, as well as protecting undersides, it's nice to use when assembling bolts and screws that don't get hot like arch liner screws.
Why is there so much piano gloss on the dash? the touch controls suck
There are huge improvements on the old model, you didn’t mention the specifications that matter. You should have done your research before taking it out.
Go on then, do tell…
@@volkswizard do your research
VW seem to be losing the plot. You can arguably get better styled, built and keener priced alternatives from their other brands, notably Cupra and Skoda at the moment.
Elly-gaaaance?!?
Needs bigger engine
That can be arranged though for most that 1.5 is ample
This VW Tiguan looks terrible for many reasons. Charge people more money for a fatter Qashqai, which I totally hate. Somehow they made the seats even more less appealing. Just why go the route of Tesla slapping a big screen inside. These things could be done better. Unfortunately not a fan
The R line is the one. Seats are amazing..and comes with some incredible equipment. Looks brilliant
Agreed with everything.. that screen is f garbage. Gloss black dash is idiotic
The new seats are more comfortable
I really wish vw would use proper knobs and buttons for the climate control! It's better than the golf mk8 but still a pain to use on the move .
It’s actually a great car. Don’t agree with your opinion at all
Nice review sir👍
Thanks again Rasher!
Oh dear - another VW anonymous blob. Having been a loyal VW buyer for decades, think it is time to keep my current VW cars or switch brands. Skoda looking better.
Thanks for the review Andrew, for me the pinnacle of the exterior design was the mk 2.5 Tiguan before VW ruined it with the iD efficiency styling. Scary that I could have got an A4 Black Edition Avant on a lease for cheaper than my 23 PHEV in R-Line spec, but Mrs wanted the high driving position and the ease of getting in and out for the kids. Hopefully when my lease is up in 2027 they will still make the A4 Avant and I’ll be able to go for one of those given the kids will be older.
You need to do a review on R line
I'd love to!
Really sad that out of the $$$$$$ of dollars spent on R&D, this was the best hybrid system they could come up with. It seems like VW decided to stop innovating 5 years ago. Mainline crossovers are boring AF, so the very least they can do is make it powerful in a straight line and efficient. In the US, there is no way I'd take a Tiguan over a RAV4 hybrid if I were looking for a solid, reliable, and efficient mall crawler.
Sorry for the downer comment, this is still a great video!
Jacob, aI care about is that you like the video, the product itself is out of my control😅I should say though that this is just a mild hybrid which TBH is best looked at as not a hybrid in the widely accepted sense. There is a proper plug in hybrid available but that comes with more weight, complexity and a higher price tag but is crucial for fleet/company car buyers in the UK as it makes the tax they pay a fraction of even a mild hybrid like the one tested which can equate to £1000s per year difference
Don't know what VW are thinking with the new releases the Pasat is awful this thing looks like a Nissan, all very generic with very expensive extras but another good presentation from yourselves.
The new front design reminds me of the id 7
You aren’t the first to draw parallels with ID design language. Considering ID range doesn’t seem to be doing that well, it seems a strange move to pollute the rest of range (ICE) with its design language but it’s possible the new Tiguan and Passat designs were finalised a few years ago when ID lack of demand wasn’t that obvious due to pandemic
The id 7 is probably the best looking of the range but none are great. Bland and built to budget
Those ambient lighting bits look like their sole purpose is to break at some point in the future.
Let’s hope they can handle the slamming of doors 😬
Agree that gloss black plastic is wrong on any car
I had the same spec car as a courtesy car this week but in black, I was actually disappointed with the way it drove, just felt really sloppy and not well damped over bumps. I didn’t feel the engine and gearbox worked well together and worst of all it had some dreaded gremlins with less then 100 miles on the clock. Auto start/stop fault, Assistance systems fault and drivetrain fault, they all disappeared after it had been parked for 30 mins. Seems VW haven’t fixed the issues which have plagued them the last few years.
All things considered it's a pretty decent car and I personally like it a lot. VW is forced to appeal especially to chinese audiences while still remaining viable in its home market. In my opinion R line is the way to go. Both the seats and the exterior really do it for me.
Is it me or are car manufacturers increasing the costs of ICE cars to make the price of electric cars more reasonable, or are they so in a hole with electric that the prices of all other cars need to go up to offset their losses??
Good afternoon
Hello Scottie and welcome
For me came across as rather preconceived and negative.
If I'm negative maybe that's because I don't like something, but overall it's a decent car if you want an SUV as I state at the end of the video. As for preconceived, not even looked at any other reviews of which there are many as it's been out a while. I've looked at the stats as part of my research, maybe doing research gives an air of preconceived? How can you tell if an opinion is preconceived anyway? It's not exactly a car that hides a lot of surprises.
Wasn’t a knock,I’m a fan .
I generally enjoy your presentations -but just felt a little reticence today - which is most unlike you .
VW wise
I have a MK2 Tiguan and a CS40 😊
Design of New Tig is a copy and paste of the ID4
Someone else said that but I haven't made the link yet and not sure if I want to :)
Looks so cheaply made. Vag cars have been going downhill with quality for the last few years now. Our current 23 plate will probably be our last from the group for a good while
I agree. VWs early noughties sales success was built upon selling cars at a small price premium to Fords, but with a perceived quality superiority / feel good factor. Over the last few years, VW have value engineered those benefits out and made their design language more bland. That may marginally improve their profitability per unit sold but I feel their European sales figures will significantly decline as a consequence of this.
Whats new about it. Looks like they stuffed the old one in a photocopier
Well there is no separate climate control panel now and only one stalk on steering column as for actual progress, how about a light bar at the back? 😁
DSG only......🤢💩
Side profile looks decent, but the rest of it is horrific. Cheap and plasticky looking inside and out.
VW need to stop hiring these woeful designers who are destroying the brand. Sad times 😢
It's OK inside but it's not surprisingly better than old one. I think the design issue originates from the fact that car manufacturers now try and design cars to appeal equally to Western and Asian tastes which leaves us with a mismatch or is it mish mash?! I wonder if the Chinese moan about Western tastes limiting the brashness they yearn? When it comes to destroying brands, don't forget the accountants...
Overpriced!! I'll be buying the BYD SEAL U suv, that looks much better and it will be cheaper. Vw cars are going down hill nowadays. (And Iv had 4 vw cars in my life time) this is soooo boring to look at.ffs
For all VW's many faults, it amazes me people will buy a car from a country that snuggles up with Putin (and that includes Volvo).
Don't those Chinese electric cars catch fire?
Not yet they haven't. @Zero_Ninety
@volkswizard I don't care about putin or Chinese. I care about value for money. You should stick to these over prices European rubbish cars. And most the item you buy are made in china by European or American companies, mr racist! F ukraine, uk 1st.Thanks
If you complain about the price of something then you’re obviously not the target market.