Deputy Pulled Gun on me again in Hyrum, Utah Copblock; Copwatch
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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1:34 Charged with "failure to disclose identity".
1:45 "Delta 93"
1:50 "He's a little 10 35"
2:26 Cop asked for my birthday and he wouldn't tell me his.
3:03 "there is no crime unless you don't give us your information, then there is a crime".
3:18 His ID is Delta 93?
5:34 Nielsen pulls his gun on me.
5:50 finally puts gun back in holster.
6:35 trying to ID the other pigs.
Cache County Sheriff Deputy in Utah; Brooke Nielsen
I am losing count how many times a gun has been pulled on me. They are adding up. The statistics of probability are working against me that one will be fired.
An anonymous caller reported my car for being parked in the parking lot of the City Square (public parking). At about 5:30pm, when I was eating a bowl of cereal, a Sheriff Deputy pulled next to my car and started demanding my name. They had to identify me.
This is a town where they closed their police station down and rely on the Sheriff Dept to do their law enforcement.
I am so tired of these anonymous callers giving the cops permission to harass me. This process of vetting isn't right.
The caller complainer needs to take some responsibility for themselves and be fully identified when they make a stupid complaint!
"There is no crime, unless you don't want to give a name, then it is a crime"
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Show me your ID! Show me your ID! Show me your ID! He's going for his ID shoot him!!!
That was funny brother lol
It's funny because it's quite literally true.
BLAM! Game over. (Sheesh! So much for exercising your constitutional rights,huh?...... after he dead, thinking afterward)
He didn't shoot though... This guy was not answering questions and was acting suspiciously. The cop doesn't know if the guy has a bomb or a gun, the cop is just doing what he was trained to do. Just because this guy knows he doesn't have anything doesn't mean shit to the cops. For all the cop knows there's a bomb in there and it'll go off any second. I'm surprised how well the cop kept his cool through this process. This guy was just asking to be a target.
@@DarkSwordsman He did nothing wrong. A nosy-ass busy-body calls and stirs up shit. Cops came and treated this guy like hes a criminal. YOU sound like a cop-sucker who lacks the backbone to do anything but, bending over and taking cop pipe up your ass. The pig needs his guts stomped out for pulling his weapon. Proofs in the pudding, hes a pussy and coward. Just like most of them. Living in fear.
The last time I saw a cop pulled a dude's ID out without his permission it was a $41,000 mistake. Seems like a good lawsuit here.
Not in Utah, stop and ID is law, unfortunate but true
Bob McBride They made it up. How does a vote of anonymity get transparency to ensure the accuracy of the vote? Diebold scandal....
All states are a corporation and needs a active contract or your consent. Without consent it is slavery.
@@bobmcbride1487 it would b against the constitution's they took a oath to if that was true. They need our consent. They just know so many ways to get it.
Jinni Dog this only works with some judges and not in all courts depending on if you know the law being practiced and how you present or if you have the people backing you or by appeal. For how long?
Arrest the cop for stealing you ID and illegally brandishing a weapon.
If a man can’t sit quietly alone in his own car and eat without being accused of something it’s become a messed up country.
police are paid predators
Wow, pulls a gun and then goes through your wallet. Shows the cops mentality.
he went for his gun with no cause he has a Taser and mace but went straight for lethal means corruption right there
Reason is to meet or exceed the the threat the guy could have pulled out of his bag you never know trust no one
When he snatched his ID, I believe that falls under unlawful, Search & seizure.
Yup !!!! Bully Cop's !!!! Need to be Fired !!!!!
Yes but the boot lickers don't see it like that !
It does!.
Wow, I hope Travis has a lawyer, that seems Iike a clear rights violation. This scaredy cat LEO pulled his gun, then ripped stuff out of Travis' bag.
I can't imagine why America is burning...
This cop should be jailed for attempted murder for pulling a gun on a citizen.If he is that afraid being a cop isn't the job for him,try Walmart.Unless he is afraid of seasonal returns.
It has been established in federal courts that a LEO pulling out his side arm is not attempted murder. It's only murder if the LEO kills the subject without just cause after all evidence has been analysed.
Gino well when majority people say fuck the police and hate them yeah I’d be scared too.
All that and not a single crime or infraction commited...without a crime or infraction being commited there was no reason to detain this man, demand I.D. draw a gun and snatch his personal effects or papers from him. The officer is a clear and present danger to the citizens of that community .
The other two cops smiled and encouraged him further.
Teach him to eat lunch in a public place! Cowards pulled those pistols as soon as he reached for the bag they told him to!
they all are and there should be some new rules like they don't touch his that all they don't throw us underground they don't do this they don't do that but you know
"I don't give personal information to strangers, regardless of their occupation."
"What reason would I have to inconvenience myself to help make your job any easier?"
"I'm not a cop; it's not my job to help investigate people."
I looked up the law You only have to identify if you are lawfully stopped in a public place under Utah code 77-7-15. Which states the officer has to have reasonable suspicion that the person is committing a crime
I like how they got your ID at gunpoint! At GUNPOINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In order to be detained you must be suspected of a crime, which in this case was cited as "failure to identify". Yet you only need to provide ID if you are being detained for a crime, which he wasn't when he was asked for ID. But in order to be detained in the first place there needs to be suspicion of a crime. He never had that initial suspicion of crime and had no right to detain. Just looking suspicious is not grounds for detainment, and therefore he has no legal obligation to present ID. Obviously the cop is in the wrong, and more than likely it didn't matter.
It's impossible to know beyond a reasonable doubt that was going on the LEO head at the moment of encounter. We can't say that the LEO didn't have reasonable suspicion because we were not there, we don't have all the facts surrounding the situation....
That cop that pulled the gun needs to be fired imediately.
Why?
Out of all the encounters you've had with law enforcement, this guy is the shadiest.
The guy on my right seemed just as shady too, but I never show him on video.
He's a scary officer.
We don't need loose cannons like him policing us.
Love how you grabbed your stuff back from him bro.
"Give me your ID!" Reaches for ID...Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. "I thought he was reaching for a gun."
I like how he had almost no reaction to the gun. I died laughing
Right he kept his same demeanor..wow
🔵 Just after (6:23) the cop snatched his wallet out of his hand without his permission, in ALL STATES that is considered assault.
They know the law but left out the part about " when the officer has a reasonable suspicion to believe the individual has committed or is in the act of committing or is attempting to commit a public offense..." No crime was reported because there simply wasn't any.
No wonder no one has respect for cops
He pulled his sidearm over nothing at all??? Cop mentality: shoot first,questions later
Maybe this is Soviet Union country ?
The Green Bastard if this were true he would’ve been shot. A cop doesn’t know if you’re gonna pull a weapon on them
he tells you to get your id out of the bag. and then he pulls his gun on you for reaching at your bag. fucking disgusting
Damn almost watched a guy die
Bc he was eating a shit dinner trying to better himself at a public library probably studying
Damn what a shame
Ill never understand why its so hard for cops to just say "ok sir, have a nice day" and walk away when theres no crime being committed
Employees at Walmart do it all the time.
These cops are having a hard on trying to have a superiority complex. The instant they have a scenario wherein they can act superior, they will take their chance.
This is why these cops prey on people who are not knowledgeable with the law, and why they hate cameras.
Cause people don't know when to shut the hell up
the Predators they're taught to make an arrest even if they have to make up an arrest
It should be a law for an officer to disclose every time they unholster their weapon
Right! Sort of like when they have to say if they are recording on their #bodycam.
The classic Travis response...
Cop: "Where you trying to get to?"
Travis: "Where YOU tryin to get to?"
😆😆😆 Keep it up Travis!!
More lawless, lying, moronic COWARDS with a badges who shits their pants at the sight of his own shadow. Learn the laws and constitution you pathetic public servants...smh
People who follow the Constitution are called Constitutionalists. That blue line black flag that cops wear is definitely not a Constitutionalist flag.
***** It's a new emerging culture that no one has a strong opinion of yet, unlike the Confederate flag, which got kicked to the curb by most people. The blue line flag almost seems like a rally banner for the cops.
Norm do u think the "Donald" has some characteristics in common with da fuher??? Even the way he spouts off seem coincidental.....
Utah is not a "stop & identify" state. They have no probable cause to ID you. In hindsight . . . ask them to have superior officer come to assess situation.
Quick draw is to afraid to be a police officer!
This is probably one of the most enraging videos I've ever seen Travis. These officers are all dirty, immoral men.
Now multiply that by 20 for Williston, ND.
"Stop and identify" statutes are statutory laws in the United States that authorize police[1] to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. In Utah v. Strieff (2016), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the officer's stop of Strieff and demand for identification was unlawful under Utah state law.
OK, that's great. But this officer didn't have a reasonable suspicion that a crime was afoot.
No crime committed, and the cop confirmed that.
Failure to identify when no reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or is about to be committed is not a crime in Utah. The police are lying.
Utah code 77-7-15:
Effective 5/8/2018
77-7-15. Authority of peace officer to stop and question suspect -- Grounds.
A peace officer may stop any person in a public place when the officer has a reasonable suspicion to believe the person has committed or is in the act of committing or is attempting to commit a public offense and may demand the person's name, address, and an explanation of the person's actions.
The text before being amended read: The words (he) and (his)was struck and replaced.
7244 Section 85. Section 77-7-15 is amended to read:
7245 77-7-15. Authority of peace officer to stop and question suspect -- Grounds.
7246 A peace officer may stop any person in a public place when [he] the officer has a
7247 reasonable suspicion to believe [he] the person has committed or is in the act of committing or
7248 is attempting to commit a public offense and may demand [his] the person's name, address, and
7249 an explanation of [his] the person's actions.
It still said the same thing, (reasonable suspicion of a crime) prior to anything else. You can't legally be charged with not identifying, when no other crime has been committed. You can't put the cart before the horse.
video is almost 2 years old ,,thanks for the update
yeah actuallt really good job dweezy lets file a complaint against the cops,
Peace officer is different than police officer
The cops are creating the crime they are threatening him with. No crime was committed until the cop is there. This is so wrong.
Isn’t Failure to ID only a crime if you don’t ID while being _lawfully_ arrested?
Edit: WHAT THE FUCK?! He pulled his gun? WHAT? Do tasers not exist for these guys?
Don't sue the department. They are funded by stolen tax dollars. Instead, please go to the nearest federal court and file an Oath of Office violation. If you win an Oath of Office violation it does two things, 1. the officer has to pay, (not the police department), a fine for every violation he or she committed and 2. he or she can never be a public officer again on U.S. soil, (banned as a cop for life). Next, go to the nearest state court and file an Oath of Office violation. If you win an Oath of Office violation again it also does two things, 1. the officer has to pay, (not the police department), a fine for every violation he or she committed and 2. he or she can never be a public officer again on state soil, (banned as a cop for life). Finally, file a claim against the insurance bond, (that the police officer or law enforcement officer has to carry by law), for damages. This will cause the insurance company to charge more to have a bond against each officer, thus providing an incentive for the police department to actually fire bad officers instead of putting them on paid vacation or doing nothing at all.
brmillgr i gotta research this
"failure to disclose identity" wow... that's exactly the opposite of a crime, that's a fucking right.
*Count One:* Illegal detainment
*Count Two:* Drawing weapon
*Count Three:* Illegal search
SUE THEM!!!!!
What a POS the cop who illegally took your ID with the force.
In order for "Failure to ID" to be a crime, you must first be obligated to ID due to reasonable articulable suspicion of a past, present or future crime. Failure to ID cannot be the compelling reason for the detainment in the first place.
It was fustrating me that he didnt bring up that arguement!
@@leggomyeggroll3569 He knew they would be too stupid to understand it.
"Yeah that's fine and all but we really need to see your ID." Like trying to argue with an addict.
Totally Illegal. They can only ask for ID if the person is suspected of committing a specific crime.
Harold Woods The cop becomes a criminal for violation of rights.
Perfect example of why the police are so hated.
Just because of id's you need to point your gun out? Why don't you file a complaint over those tyrant?!?!
If you don't sue your the problem
A man sitting in his car eating in a public place is not a crime so he never should even been bothered with that sillyness
Fire this cop now someone will get hurt. You don't take something out of someone hand like they did.
Williston, North Dakota will promote a cop like this.
Code 10 35 means he was relaying that you were drunk. This causes backup to arrive with an already aggressive demeanor.
Cop: "Hey what's your name?"
Citizen: "Why?"
Cop: "Because I'm detaining you."
Citizen: "Why?"
Cop: "Because you won't give me your name."
WTF????? That seems like a little circular logic to me. Like the guy who gets arrested with one charge of "resisting arrest". But what was he getting arrested for in the first place?? There has to be a first charge, right?? What fucking country are we living in again??
At first I thought this was a violation of the Stop and identify law in the state of Utah. Upon further review..... right at the start of this video the man says "am I being detained"... the officer says "no, I'm just talking to you, trying to find out who you are." Even under the authoritarian Utah law, the officer shot himself in the foot by saying no.. The officer has no right to see the ID, the officer must walk away, this man civil rights were violated and he should sue
Hopeful Pessimist true. Get a lawyer!
Blatantly violating the 4th amendment
#1: Utah is a stop and ID state.
#2: Cop drawing a gun on the suspect for ID, after asking multiple times. When he does go to retrieve his ID, the cop just assumes the worst; a gun.
He should not be a cop if he just naturally assumes the worst for every encounter, that is not the proper mindset a cop should have. A cop should always be ready for the worst, not just assume it first.
Cop lied which isn't surprising.
"In order to trigger the requirements of Utah Code 76-8-301.5, a police officer must first meet the requirements of Utah Code 77-7-15. This section of the Utah criminal code provides that a police officer may stop or detain a person in a public place if the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe that the person has committed a crime, or is currently in the act of or attempting to committing a crime. This law then provides that the officer may then "demand" the person's name, address, and "an explanation of his actions."
Interesting, so it seems quite similar to other states, where identification is only required once lawfully detained for a crime?
Cop keeps asking for ID. Guy finally agrees and reaches for his ID, cop immediately pulls his gun out. America! :D
Lesson 1: in fact, its the only lesson. Its a one lesson course. Do not talk to the police at all. Just remain silent, completely and do not answer any questions, ever.
Cops in Utah are getting to be a joke!
In Ogden, cops beat on an old man just to see his ID.
In Salt Lake, they arrested a nurse for doing her job.
In Hyrum, we have this cop trying to arrest a guy for being in a parking lot.
Smh!
He was not to pull his gun he should loose his job for that
It's not a crime to not give your ID for not committing a crime
Asking someone to take out their I'd and then pull a gun on them and say "are you pulling a gun? Wtf
Sue that cop
Apparently,all the crimes in this city are solved.
The cops have time to harass a person who is sitting in a car🤔
Doesn't anyone else find it suss that theres no crime and they wanna still write your details down in their little books? Fckn weirdos..
This cop needs kicked out of the United States for failing his oath.
Officer needs to be fired immediately
That’s robbery. Or at least taking without consent.
Taking wallet *4th AMENDMENT VIOLATION*
Utah sucks. In florida you don't have to id unless you are commuting a crime
4th amendment violation when he snatched it from you 41000 dollars
What officer did is considered Armed robbery pulled gun and took Id unlawfully
No free society in Utah...
"Like the Arizona “show me your papers” law that inspired it, this law compels all people in the state of Utah, citizens and non-citizens alike, to carry identification documents on them at all times, just in case they are stopped by police officers and asked to prove their citizenship or immigration status."
This is totally un-American. Still the auditor needs to know the law beforehand. The best course here is NEVER visit Utah.
Might as well not visit anywhere and that is not an option!
One cannot be good and cop, the two are not able to exist together. "Good cop" is an oxymoron.
Thanks!
Utah is the worst state for so many reasons. Holy shit
Law suits is warranted. So why not? It's pretty evident they need more training. They didn't hold up to the oath they took.
I hope that you file complaints on these officers. Failure to ID is not a stand-alone law. It can only be employed after another law has been broken
1stupidfish They would come back that they had reasonable suspicion of parking there overnight, which would be their "public offense"... But the cop told The Dude there was nothing wrong, that "I'm just talking with ya." Didn't detain except for the failure to ID, which, even then, just a name is sufficient in Utah.
If he's sitting in the drivers seat with the keys in the ignition, hes operating a motor vehicle.. even if he isn't driving anywhere, and even if the car isn't running.
operating a vehicle requires a license and you have to provide ID when requested.
Anyhow this guy handed his wallet over then tried to walk away, saying he was going to go inside his house..
very strange behavior
this is how the police get criminals off the streets, with a conversation.
people want the police to work miracles or something
how can they find people with warrants, catch people breaking the law, if they don't speak to anyone
Everyone should line up at their local police stations every day to check if they have any warrants for their arrest. Is that what you want? Take the initiative then and go to your police department every day and show us how it's done. Thank you!
They stop a person for a minor violation, end up finding a lot more wrong.
you really trust people to turn themselves in?
Cop actually claims he is not harassing Travis after the other cop pulls out his gun and steals Travis’ ID and 3 cops needed for a wellness check but no harassment to see here FFS
You may have set a record for how much you get checked. Bonnie and clyde had less contact with cops!
Yeah, what's up with that?
They’re ready to kill you with ease for anything. That cop needs to be fired for violating your civil rights.
shark they all want the paid vacation
He grabbed the ID pouch and then looked into it when he had the ID in his hand, illegal search.
In America, give me you ID at gunpoint... For no reason...
6:59 this is a great interaction... You articulate yourself very well...i love how you confuse tf out of these tyrants...
I love how free you Americans are.
Your all prisoners and these are your wardens
Please be fair! A COP'S job is so DANGEROUS! But wait! Law enforcement is NOT on "America's top #5 most dangerous jobs list" But, Sanation Worker (garbageman) is . An innocent American is 87% more likely to be killed by a cop, than by a TERRORIST. Cops have murdered more than 900 unarmed people as of Oct 2016. The average punishment is two weeks paid vacation. But let's be fair! Their job is SO dangerous. They FEAR for their life! Please donate to the COP "CLEAN OFFICER'S PAMPERS" FUND.
IB NAGAH fuck em
brainwashed
His comment was sarcasm so he is on your side Ebsen.
Clearly he was told what his name was by whoever he was speaking to at the call center and they told him his name is Travis why wouldn’t they have his birthday You can see the cops frustration this is absolutely absurd, I love these videos❤️💯❤️💯❤️
Deputy Nelson had no idea what was about to happen to him. In the follow-up video where Travis's car was falsely alerted on and searched shows how disconnected this perceived power is to his real power. The only thing in reality that separates those powers is abuse of power. After this interaction and after the next interaction he doesn't understand case law where Reasonable Articulable Suspicion that Travis had committed a crime, was committing a crime, or was about to commit a crime is the absolute minimum threshold for detainment. Any detainment without those elements is illegal. In his undeveloped mind he really believes he has the right to demand answers to his questions. You see here attempted 4th Amendment violations, attempted 5th Amendment violations and actual illegal detainment and abuse of power and sadly he has no idea he's committing those errors. Still doesn't.
In Utah citizens arrest is legal. If the law is for one to ID themselves then why doesn’t the cop have to ID himself when asked? Parking in a public place isn’t illegal. No PC for a stop or detention existed to even approach to be asked for ID. Then he was illegally searched when the cop snatched the wallet. He found the ID then searched more...
They're screening people, we should do a class action lawsuit against them, yay 😊
failure to identify is only applicable if you're suspected of a crime... these police officers are committing misconduct
That was a great time to show his wages and his full name through public records
Just imagining the response if Travis was black. The cops are quite generous here. It's good he wasn't shot when the cop pulled out his gun, possibly fearing for his life.
Wow, he was quick to pull the gun out. He should not be a cop!
I live in this town, the sheriff's get so bored, they start making crap up just so they can trap people. They are idiots... also, this officer Neilson no longer patrols, he works as a bailiff now, wonder if this had anything to do with it 😂😂😂
So let me get this correct. Snatching your ID to find out who you are , magically solved their concern whether you are a threat. Got it.
Because if you are a criminal, your driver's license says "CRIMINAL" on it in big red letters. Seriously though, they are fishing for a warrant because under Utah vs. Strieff, it can be used to turn an unlawful detention into a lawful one after the fact. Even if the warrant is for an unpaid parking ticket in another state. Thanks, Supreme Court!
cop -"mind if i check your ID.......you are detained for failure to disclose ID....as of right now there is no crime...as long as you don't have any warrants you are on your way..." = i'm hoping to find a reason to lock you up....
I am not an American but I am pretty sure no Utah law can supersede the US Constitution.
Cruel Abduhl it's called right to ID state
It’s a stop and Id state only if you’re suspected of committing a crime or have already committed a crime, or suspect a crime is about to be committed. They couldn’t articulate a crime being committed other than not providing papers which isn’t a law he can break unless he had already broken the law. We have freedom of movement and when the officer says the man videoing is detained for not identifying himself, the officer is infringing on that mans rights due to the fact he has not committed a crime. You even hear the officer assume that the man videoing has a warrant which isn’t the case, aka profiling. You also notice the first time he asks the officer if he was being detained he says “no were just having a conversation” but then decides to make up laws and changes his mind.
I’ve had the fortune of being stopped only for traffic violations and always had a cordial experience with most the officers I’ve dealt with, but the day that I start to get asked for “my papers” as if I were in nazi Germany then we’ve got a problem. Be informed and be knowledgeable. We as a people have given police too much power and they abuse it, but they can’t if you understand the law.
The guy is a suspicious person. Ok, just show your ID and you go on your way. Pulling a gun is crossing a line. Something should happen because of that,.
-Cop- Pig- "Give me your Id."
Citizen- reaches for id
-Cop- Pig- pulls gun on citizen for reaching for id.
Did you press charges of any kind? Show to the DA? That dude is going to straight up murder someone if he's not contained.
That is unbelievable he pulled that out of your hand and then he's violate the Fourth amendment he's searching you unbelievable. Absolute corruption that officer should be fired immediately. And his partner should go down with them.
It sucks to know these cops take an oath to uphold the Constitution when they clearly are the reason the Constitution was written
From the start, you can just tell this is not going to be a lawful stop at all. He asked the officer, what is the crime? The Officer needs to articulate a crime in order to ID him. But when he asks again, he says "In Utah, its failure to disclose identity".
Cops, let me run this down for you.
He has to have committed a crime for you to ID him in the first place, so this "Failure to disclose identity" is absolute non-sense. You cannot ID someone for not committing a crime, that is in breach of the 4th Amendment.
Failure to ID is a secondary charge - This means, the Citizen has to be in "Custody" or "Arrested" and fails to ID himself for this to become a secondary crime.
I live in the UK and even I know the American laws better than these 2 officers. How can these morons get it wrong?
He does not need to articulate a crime, he needs to assert that he suspects you of a crime. Telling you what crime he suspects you of can hurt his investigation. Later, if you follow up with a complaint the cop would need to articulate the crime that he suspected you of. So basically, if you ask "do you suspect me of a crime?" and the cop says yes, show ID and file a complaint. If he says no, then he is not entitled to see ID and if he still insists under threat of arrest, show ID and sue his sorry ass for violating your rights.
The whole point is police policy is explicit all officers when requested must identify verbally or in writing. Same goes for other public servants. But as a private individual the 4th amendment protects my anonymity. If you refuse to ID during the booking process then a secondary charge can be implied. In order to book you there must be primary charges everything else is secondary. Usually misdemeanors. As the saying goes you may beat the crime but the ride is free to the gray bar hotel.
All Travis had to say is no I'm not going to give you my ID and if they would have arrested him then it's a unlawful arrest