The more I watch these chen forms, the more deeply in love i fall with the art. I have been practicing for only two months, and it has given me an appreciation of just how exact and demanding this taichi is.
His movements are like flowing water, and every move is a statement in restrained power. Many practitioners do tai-ji like a dance, just making the transition from move to move with no energy. You can see from his movements that if he released the power in his movements, it would have real wushu applications.
Bear in mind this just taolu., a performance. The performer (Wang) moves very differently when showing the martial application to each move. He has a very traditional background. his mind is very open!!
The video credits do not mention his name. You seem to know him. I note that "@rendarius" is dismissive of Wang's dance, but your "taolu" (套路, suite-path) explanation covers that, and Wang seems entirely capable of actually fighting. Google result: taolu means routine, set of moves, as opposed to sparring with spontaneity. "Taijiquan Chen style 24 Form Sujinda Yangrungrawin THA Male" is (almost?) a repetition of Wang's routine here, including the same music. The comparison is instructive. Also notable is a "new" Chen sword routine, IWUF New Chen Style TJJ Compulsory Routine, of which a commenter says, in Google's translation, Alas... all those who talk eloquently are the same in the world!......... Martial arts is a product of the cold weapon era. The end of China's cold weapon era was the Qing Dynasty. After the Qing Dynasty, it was impossible for martial arts to develop upward. It’s already good if it can retain its traditional power. In this case...if you don't keep the traditional routine well, What does it mean to create something new and unconventional? [I've changed my mind about Zhao Wenzhuo if that's who performs in this Chen Style Tai Chi/Taiji /规定陈式太极拳 video. Rendarius correctly identifies this as in effect theatrical, and I go back to deeply admiring Sujinda Yangrungrawin's execution. My point is that combat training is all about not daydreaming.]
A Chen sword routine on UA-cam got this comment, 唉....滔滔者，天下皆是也！ ......... 武術是冷兵器時代的產物。 中國冷兵器時代的末端，是清朝。 清朝以後，武功就已經不太可能向上發展了。 能保留到傳統的威力，就已經不錯了。 在這種情況下.....你不好好的保留傳統套路， 標新立異一些新的東西，是怎麼一回事? Which Google translates as Alas... all those who talk eloquently are the same in the world! ......... Martial arts is a product of the cold weapon era. The end of China's cold weapon era was the Qing Dynasty. After the Qing Dynasty, it was impossible for martial arts to develop upward. It’s already good if it can retain its traditional power. In this case...if you don't keep the traditional routine well, What does it mean to create something new and unconventional? (end) That UA-cam video is called IWUF New Chen Style TJJ Compulsory Routine 陈式太极剑新规定套路. Perhaps that commenter, @adfgsdfsdfasdfasdfas, would consider Wang's routine to also be "new". I like the phrase "cold weapon". Firearms allow you to keep away from your victim. But I suspect the dynamic of war is the same. You must be willing to get close, risking everything. Only then can you see whom must be struck.
A point about the punch @ 2:00. All the winding is there, uses the lower body well, (strong legs on this guy) but watch the release a few times and you will see the power never continues on past the strike. It stops. Also the power is coming from only the right side (a la External style). The power in Chen strikes comes from the opposite side of the body ;)
It turns out he's an actor, Zhao Wenzhuo, had a role in Once Upon a Time in China with Jet Li, 1991. "Zhao is best known for playing the Chinese folk hero Wong Fei-hung in the Once Upon a Time in China film and television series and for his films The Blade, True Legend and God of War. Wikipedia Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Harbin, China"
But someone commenting here says he's Chen Weijie, 陈伟杰. My Zhao claim comes from a comment in Chinese here from @jenh4129 4 months ago. Those two names, Googled, turned up photos that could be the man in this video. Then someone calls this performer Xiaomei: @phuocdai2608 8 years ago. And then @longfist123 8 years ago calls him Wang.
one of the greatest martial artists currently living. Strength, speed, flexibility and subtleness. modern Tai Chi artists like this choose not to do classic Tai Chi. It's a choice
Grazie Alex, c'era molta forza e gentile padronanza nei suoi movimenti. La musica è stata un ponte perfetto per meglio avvicinarsi all'intuizione di ciò che accadeva.
Saul I don't see any power flowing from the ground thru the body to those strikes. I see the strikes being held back by local tension at the release. Sorry :( I'm sure he can hit hard but it's all local tension strikes. Small caliber pistol shots. Not cannon shots.
@@saul4568 I think its difficult for us to assess. Chen Xiao Wang is incredibly explosive and you see it physically. But plenty of grandmasters, for instance Bagua, even better than CXW (hard to believe yes) would be more subtle in their movements. I think CXW shows the physical because he is teaching us "lesser mortals" but in reality he would personally use his chi subtley rather than body mechanics, if that makes sense.
Which form of Chen's is that one? it is very similar to the 56 movements but a bit different... I am practicing Chen and I am really interested in learning this form!! Anyone can help answer my question?
***** Not true. my First taiji instructor had the swaying like that, it has millions of uses. my new taiji instructor has no sway and is all structure and qua. I am both. Do you really think that this guy didn't havefull access to all the martial side that most of the world will never even get to learn?
ACEMFG1 Well said. I think it is also important to point out that A Wushu competition has different criteria from a judging standpoint. Flair, drama and to a degree overemphasis of a movement. It is a show and forms in this arena is art after all as well as physical skill. Short compact movement would be more traditional so to speak. The less visible to not show intent. The important thing is to recognize one from the other and be able to display both sides as a fighter and an artist.
pjericson68 Thank you, to me it's very easy to spot his martial side.Just look at the single whip. the twisting, closing, and opening of the back is a dead give away. he's real good.
It's a good form for competition and performance. But I would still suggest you learn traditional Taijiquan as a foundation. Only learning the movements to one of these competition sets runs the risk of your Taiji just being "empty" physical movements with no true internal power and principles.
"Such an amazing combination between music and Tai Chi. I am so deeply in love with your performance Xiaomei. The music impresses me so much, please tell me the name of this song. Thank you." Google translation
还是赵文卓早年那个视频里打得好 "Zhao Wenzhuo played well in that video in his early years" Vincent Zhao Wenzhuo, sometimes credited as Vincent Chiu or Chiu Man-cheuk, is a Chinese actor and martial artist. Zhao is best known for playing the Chinese folk hero Wong Fei-hung in the Once Upon a Time in China film and television series and for his films The Blade, True Legend and God of War. Wikipedia Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Harbin, China [So he's 42 in the video here.]
a parte che "fa schifo" in questo contesto è una cosa bruttissima da leggere... le codificate vengono rese un pelo più coreografiche , non è una novità. Trovo comunque che sia un gran belvedere a prescindere.
that's just take my breath away. he moves just like water, it flows beautifully yet fierce
The more I watch these chen forms, the more deeply in love i fall with the art. I have been practicing for only two months, and it has given me an appreciation of just how exact and demanding this taichi is.
他的动作好看。谢谢！。再见！。
His movements are like flowing water, and every move is a statement in restrained power. Many practitioners do tai-ji like a dance, just making the transition from move to move with no energy. You can see from his movements that if he released the power in his movements, it would have real wushu applications.
Bear in mind this just taolu., a performance. The performer (Wang) moves very differently when showing the martial application to each move. He has a very traditional background. his mind is very open!!
The video credits do not mention his name. You seem to know him. I note that "@rendarius" is dismissive of Wang's dance, but your "taolu" (套路, suite-path) explanation covers that, and Wang seems entirely capable of actually fighting. Google result: taolu means routine, set of moves, as opposed to sparring with spontaneity. "Taijiquan Chen style 24 Form Sujinda Yangrungrawin THA Male" is (almost?) a repetition of Wang's routine here, including the same music. The comparison is instructive. Also notable is a "new" Chen sword routine, IWUF New Chen Style TJJ Compulsory Routine, of which a commenter says, in Google's translation, Alas... all those who talk eloquently are the same in the world!.........
Martial arts is a product of the cold weapon era.
The end of China's cold weapon era was the Qing Dynasty.
After the Qing Dynasty, it was impossible for martial arts to develop upward.
It’s already good if it can retain its traditional power.
In this case...if you don't keep the traditional routine well,
What does it mean to create something new and unconventional? [I've changed my mind about Zhao Wenzhuo if that's who performs in this Chen Style Tai Chi/Taiji /规定陈式太极拳 video. Rendarius correctly identifies this as in effect theatrical, and I go back to deeply admiring Sujinda Yangrungrawin's execution. My point is that combat training is all about not daydreaming.]
A Chen sword routine on UA-cam got this comment, 唉....滔滔者，天下皆是也！
.........
武術是冷兵器時代的產物。
中國冷兵器時代的末端，是清朝。
清朝以後，武功就已經不太可能向上發展了。
能保留到傳統的威力，就已經不錯了。
在這種情況下.....你不好好的保留傳統套路，
標新立異一些新的東西，是怎麼一回事?
Which Google translates as Alas... all those who talk eloquently are the same in the world!
.........
Martial arts is a product of the cold weapon era.
The end of China's cold weapon era was the Qing Dynasty.
After the Qing Dynasty, it was impossible for martial arts to develop upward.
It’s already good if it can retain its traditional power.
In this case...if you don't keep the traditional routine well,
What does it mean to create something new and unconventional? (end) That UA-cam video is called IWUF New Chen Style TJJ Compulsory Routine 陈式太极剑新规定套路. Perhaps that commenter, @adfgsdfsdfasdfasdfas, would consider Wang's routine to also be "new". I like the phrase "cold weapon". Firearms allow you to keep away from your victim. But I suspect the dynamic of war is the same. You must be willing to get close, risking everything. Only then can you see whom must be struck.
Excellent observation. More dance than martial.
solid low body form.. fluid upper body flow... what a beauty.
Very perfect ! Thank you.
Bravo, I See this end I can't stop IT watching 😋😊this
Amazing and incredible loved it
Beautiful and powerful move. What is the name of chen style?
Excellent movement, strong yet soft, powerful yet gentle. Does anyone have a list of moves for this routine - iwuf New chen 56
This music is very suitable to Chen Taiqi performance.
A point about the punch @ 2:00. All the winding is there, uses the lower body well, (strong legs on this guy) but watch the release a few times and you will see the power never continues on past the strike. It stops. Also the power is coming from only the right side (a la External style). The power in Chen strikes comes from the opposite side of the body ;)
It turns out he's an actor, Zhao Wenzhuo, had a role in Once Upon a Time in China with Jet Li, 1991. "Zhao is best known for playing the Chinese folk hero Wong Fei-hung in the Once Upon a Time in China film and television series and for his films The Blade, True Legend and God of War. Wikipedia Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Harbin, China"
But someone commenting here says he's Chen Weijie, 陈伟杰. My Zhao claim comes from a comment in Chinese here from @jenh4129 4 months ago. Those two names, Googled, turned up photos that could be the man in this video. Then someone calls this performer Xiaomei: @phuocdai2608 8 years ago. And then @longfist123 8 years ago calls him Wang.
陈氏太极拳 健康体操还是属于武术？
Fabuloso ja
one of the greatest martial artists currently living. Strength, speed, flexibility and subtleness. modern Tai Chi artists like this choose not to do classic Tai Chi. It's a choice
Amazing :-)
Grazie Alex, c'era molta forza e gentile padronanza nei suoi movimenti.
La musica è stata un ponte perfetto per meglio avvicinarsi all'intuizione di ciò che accadeva.
Marta Della Bianca Chen Style Tai Chi(2)/Taiji /规定陈式太极拳(2)
Marta Della Bianca come si può anche questo
Grazie TaiChi Well , ho lasciato un commento. A presto.
TaiChi Well ，
Che dire... scorre fluido e preciso..
Nice performance
陈伟杰 will get the gold when Taiji goes to the Olympic one day!
mind blown...
Saul I don't see any power flowing from the ground thru the body to those strikes. I see the strikes being held back by local tension at the release. Sorry :( I'm sure he can hit hard but it's all local tension strikes. Small caliber pistol shots. Not cannon shots.
@@saul4568 I think its difficult for us to assess.
Chen Xiao Wang is incredibly explosive and you see it physically.
But plenty of grandmasters, for instance Bagua, even better than CXW (hard to believe yes) would be more subtle in their movements.
I think CXW shows the physical because he is teaching us "lesser mortals" but in reality he would personally use his chi subtley rather than body mechanics, if that makes sense.
I wish I had a Tai Chi instructor near me.
fantastic!
I see a dragon when he playing, although some parts have room to improve.
Excellent work!!
I want to learn tai chi, which form is better that I should learn?
漂亮，标准，有劲，不过打架一般用不上
说的是，哪里能学到这么好看的太极？
音乐好
Does anyone know the name of the song?
讚
好!
very good
Someone could figure it out the music ?
Does anybody know the name of the soundtrack?
رائع
superb
Which form of Chen's is that one? it is very similar to the 56 movements but a bit different... I am practicing Chen and I am really interested in learning this form!!
Anyone can help answer my question?
It's the "new" 56 Chen form.. the one that we know is the "old" one now
32 forms
his hands move before the power comes from his legs. A dancer not a fighter!
David Boson Respectfully disagree with your assessment.
***** Not true. my First taiji instructor had the swaying like that, it has millions of uses. my new taiji instructor has no sway and is all structure and qua. I am both. Do you really think that this guy didn't havefull access to all the martial side that most of the world will never even get to learn?
ACEMFG1 Well said. I think it is also important to point out that A Wushu competition has different criteria from a judging standpoint. Flair, drama and to a degree overemphasis of a movement. It is a show and forms in this arena is art after all as well as physical skill. Short compact movement would be more traditional so to speak. The less visible to not show intent. The important thing is to recognize one from the other and be able to display both sides as a fighter and an artist.
pjericson68 Thank you, to me it's very easy to spot his martial side.Just look at the single whip. the twisting, closing, and opening of the back is a dead give away. he's real good.
nice performance , half of the comments are directed to "what os the music" lol
Enjoy
底盘利害
枸式太极拳四十二式
Nice....
When are you coming to Melbourne Australia
Does anyone have a link for this music ? Please. ...
Can someone tell me the name of this form please? I never saw this before. It look's awesome performed by this guy. thumbs up
I know this is chen taiji but which form is this?
+Steffen Piper A modified 56 form.
This is the new compulsory routine for Chen Taijiquan competition.
+orihx3 it looks pretry awesome! but make it sense? I'm new at Taijiquan
It's a good form for competition and performance. But I would still suggest you learn traditional Taijiquan as a foundation. Only learning the movements to one of these competition sets runs the risk of your Taiji just being "empty" physical movements with no true internal power and principles.
Wow how old is he?
Actually it's the punch at 2:33 that I'm referring too... sorry 'bout that.
What is the name of this taichi form?
I would very much like to train with you.
这个音乐的名称叫什么? 很好听
what is the name of the soundtrack??
Clifford Lim 龙鼓篆音
Long Seal Drum sound
新架一路，二路混合在一起，创新的套路
класс
Someone knows what is the name of this soundtrack?
龙鼓篆音
音樂和太極拳之間這樣一個驚人的組合。我那麼深深地愛上你的表現小梅。音樂讓我如此令人印象深刻，請你告訴我這首歌的名字。 謝謝。
"Such an amazing combination between music and Tai Chi. I am so deeply in love with your performance Xiaomei. The music impresses me so much, please tell me the name of this song. Thank you." Google translation
!!!
what are a good pair of wushu shoes to train with?
Orlon Arsino tiger claw are my favorite
I need a name of this song! pls help me!
An empty shell tells me nothing.
what is song ?
Is this the 13 postures?
The 24 I think
Va già fuori canone quando fa l'apertura
Watch a couple of vids of Chen Bing and you'll see what I mean ;)
CHRIST
还是赵文卓早年那个视频里打得好
还是赵文卓早年那个视频里打得好 "Zhao Wenzhuo played well in that video in his early years" Vincent Zhao Wenzhuo, sometimes credited as Vincent Chiu or Chiu Man-cheuk, is a Chinese actor and martial artist. Zhao is best known for playing the Chinese folk hero Wong Fei-hung in the Once Upon a Time in China film and television series and for his films The Blade, True Legend and God of War. Wikipedia Born: 1972 (age 52 years), Harbin, China [So he's 42 in the video here.]
大架
Così fa schifo, é troppo esasperata...
a parte che "fa schifo" in questo contesto è una cosa bruttissima da leggere... le codificate vengono rese un pelo più coreografiche , non è una novità. Trovo comunque che sia un gran belvedere a prescindere.
Si si, proprio schifissimo. Dai, non scherziamo