Mamiya Press Super 23
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Bought in 1968 in London, my Mamiya Press Super 23 served me well for many Weddings and some Commercial Jobs. Although heavy, it gives good results if you remember to do everything in the 'Right Order' as it is all 'manual' . I show many results, some commercial work and some personal .
![Mamiya Press (6x9) | Medium Format Rangefinder [English Subbed]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Np8lCJdQtF0/mqdefault.jpg)
Good sir, this is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on UA-cam-the depth of knowledge that you possess about this camera (which I am in the midst of purchasing) is just astounding. I also enjoyed your stories. Thanks for making this video! I hope that when I am your age, I embrace the technology of the day and pass on what I’ve learned to the next generation.
-Frank
Good Morning Frank-- well many thanks for Kind Comment -- I remember how when I was 15 years old and a 'Beginner' I was helped by 'Old Fogies' like ME !! I joined the South Essex Camera Club as their Youngest Member and did not worry that they were all much OLDER -- just though of them as 'Fellow Photography Enthusiasts' !! Now we cannot get 'Younger Members ' to join a Club as when they come through the door and see lots of Old Fogies they never stay more than one meeting. Keep Snapping and Keep Healthy -- Peter
Thanks Peter nice video. I am thinking of buying one from Japan, do you have any tips? I don't suppose you are thinking of selling:-)
I had one of these, had to say it was the most interactive camera I ever owned! Took a while to get the hang of it, but all the work was worth it when I saw an 8x10 image that I took correctly. It was beautiful. Unfortunately, I was buying film cameras, and the photography world was marching to digital, so a few years after I got it, suddenly there were no local places to get the film developed and printed anymore, so I sold it.
Now, the new generation is re-discovering film cameras, so it would be my wish that the old girl is being used someplace, instead of sitting in the bag for ages, not being used. That is the hope anyway. But they are great cameras, once you get the hang of it! 😀
Wonderful presentation much appreciated
Wonderful. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and your photo work!
Many Thanks for your kind words -- my Video attempts are not all 'Polished' with 'Editing' and music and stuff as i don't know how to do it !
@@theoldfilmbloke , I like your 'unpolished' videos more, than those with music but without information. One can learn a lot from these videos, please keep making them!
@@csabapapp8481 Thanks for your Kind Words -- I will put a new one on about a loaned YASHICA soon !
My man. You are awesome. The world is better with you in it.
THANKS -- I woke up this morning and I was STILL ALIVE -- a BONUS !!
Great video - very informative and by a photographer who actually knows his stuff!
This is brilliant! Every question I had was answered. I just bought a Mamiya Press Universal and I was confused with some things, but you cleared it all up for me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Well in the end I finally bought the original mamiya press 6x9 back ( bellows), with the groundglass screen. I believe from 1962-64. The 90 and 150mm lenses are included. Again thanks for all the good info, it is really helpful.
Especially the focusing trick with the bellows was very informative. B.t.w. with the Brexit the grapes should go up in price even more so we sent you some fruit from Holland if you like :-)
Yes Please -- seedless if possible as my Surgeon says I'm not allowed Fruit with seeds at the moment !
That's an awesome beast of a thing.. Modern cameras as so boring :)
...This is my third time watching these videos, so entertaining and loads of info! I have been photographing now since 1967, took loads of crappy pictures, won some awards for a few, I eventually took classes and got better at it, got into digital but I do love film and your videos inspire me to go back to film cameras, which I have a few of. Keep up the videos, fascinating stuff, greetings from the sunny climes (not!) of Germany!
Excellent resource and one that will get even more important over future decades. Well done!
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for sharing.
35mm prints are great, but Medium format is Spectacular Peter :)
Yes-- I did some 20x16" Exhibition prints from it but they have been dumped so only a few 10x8" size to show
Thank you sir from Canada!
Peter, you are a legend! Thank you for such a down to earth and practical tutorial on the Super 23!
One of the most enjoyable videos I've seen. Thank you. You are quite a character. Thank you also for your insights into this camera.
This is the best review I've watched of this camera, you can notice that he knows a lot about the mamiya and the photo examples with the stories made it a really great video!
Great video. Had heard about this camera but had never seen one being used. I had 2 Mamiya C330f's and used them for weddings from 1985 to 95. They were a lot easier than the 23!
You're a legend! I love to choose one video once in a while and I am happy to say I am close to watch them all. Thanks for sharing Peter
WoW ! Must have a 'Marathon Viewing Session! ' Hope you have a Coffee ready to keep you awake ! ha Ha !
I loved your work, Peter. Thanks for sharing these.
This is a great video, so far the only one showing the workflow of the camera and its accessories. Thank you Peter!!! This video is informative and entertaining, just like if my grandpa was showing me his camera :)
Thanks Grand Son !
Outstanding review! I enjoy dad's Mamiya Standsrd 23 (sans the film back movement, predecessor of the Super and Universal) thoroughly! Ours had an issue with light filtering through the lens bayonet release! I had the foam replaced but put black mate masking tape on top of it!
Well done, very good informative talk.
Thanks again Peter, especially like the insight into professional photography.
Amazing photos Peter, thank you for your video, I just got this camera today with 100 mm lens . I hope to get 250 mm soon and do some landscape. I think 6x9 format is amazing size and this camera right now is the cheapest option for this format. Your video help me
a lot to understand how to focus with the glass. Greatings from Japan.
So insightful! I had seen your pictures before I watched this video, some of the nicest I've found using this camera. It's good to out a face to the pictures, and the knowledge behind them is brilliant! This camera takes really nice pictures with the right handling of it. Thanks!
Very good video for me who have just buy one Mamiya press 23. Best regards from Argentina
Thanks Peter, this video will inspire me to get my Mamiyapress gear out and start using it properly again. I have the 50mm, 65mm, 90mm, 100mm and the 150mm with 6X7 and 6X9 backs. I can also use the Mamiya Press backs on my RB's.
There you go !! I thought of YOU so had to do this video even though it was hot and sweaty -- but at least the PHONE or DOORBELL didn't go off in the middle of it !
Peter Thanks for your video, I just Bought it to try the 6x9 Ratio and I love it, thanks for share your Expertise and experiences, I was long time RolleiFlex 6x6 user, but this format is Awsome. thanks to your video I learn somehow my way with this camera.
Thanks my friend. Very good video. I am buying one and wondered how they work. Job done.
Great video, thank you very much for making and sharing it!
Good stuff. I used a later version of the same camera, lovely but heavy. It's really a studio camera with a handle but the lenses are impressive. I was looking back at some 6 x 9 colour negative work recently, and it still has a unique look. It was also marketed as a Polaroid camera.
I could imagine dreaming about this camera and waking up in a sweat and being relieved it was a not real and then later getting out my Roleiflex and cords out and giving them a big camera loving hug....:):) Love your gear videos Peter just wonderful.
yes -- you should fire the shutters a few times to keep them working properly -- I read on Forums how people get an 'electronic' camera in 'Mint' condition but it will not work -- it needs an 'electric current' going through to keep the little Capacitors up -- the Minolta X-300 and X-700 are examples of failing through not being used.
+Peter Elgar
Hey Peter, I repaired quite a few of the x300 and they all fail due to one bad capacitor. But the capacitor simply fails due to age. I don't think they would last longer if You keep the batteries in. Only result, imho, will be a corroded battery compartment. But, nevertheless , great video ! Thank You for the instuctions wich will come in very handy as I just ordered my first Mamiya Press 23 Super.
one tip, that ground glass viewer is also a Single sheet back holder, for 6x9 simmilar to the linhof technikas 6x9, same size, but these are very rare, the back knobs are the press own system M adaptor, R is on the RB/RZ, P is the polaroid fitting, these backs are the M backs, if you ever want to add these kidney shaped backs to an RB, but still will only get 6x7 frame though.
one other thing, that lever is called an 'interruptor', Linhof technika shutters (they did make their own), had this system, set it to B, then hold up the cocking lever on the interrupter catch, then take the weight of the lever, de-cocking the shutter, re-cock, then fire for real.
Thanks for sharing some info Peter. I like seeing different videos on how each user works with their rig differently. This is such a great setup. I switched from a 4.5x6 bronica setup over a year ago and haven't looked back. It is a bit fiddly and there are some bits to remember, but I've run nearly 60 rolls of film through it so far and I'm continually pleased with the results this rig with my 100mm 3.5 lens produces. The movements are a nice bonus as well, but like you said, a front rise would have been really nice. But then again, it probably would have changed the entire camera. Cheers.
Hi Peter , I like your Mamiya Press video . I have a big collection of Mamiya Press . The first Press of 1960 , a chrome and black super 23 and the Universal . 50 , 100 , 127 , 150 , 1:8 250 and the Big Boy 1:5 250 . Lots of back's and groundglas adapters one homemade groundglas for the G adapter for my RB 67 backs . I still use the Press with Fuji Acros on 6x7 and make my prints in my own darkroom . Greetings from the Netherlands Peter .
Peter, congratulations from Brazil. Great video.
Hi, great video. I really enjoy watching it. Keep it up!
Great video, and a lovely guy.
Thanks for all the info Peter, great video.
Thanks for viewing -- I have not used it for a while -- I tried to replace the rotten foam strips on the film back and the foam was too thick and now the backs will not go on so I have to get thinner foam.
Yes I know. Most of the foam strips are rotten. The versatility of this camera-system is appealing to me. But the Pentax 67 is eventually another option.
Excellent video!
thanks Peter, GREETINGS FROM VENEZUELA
Thanks for viewing -- sorry I cannot supply SPANISH Sub-Titles I learnt only French and Latin at school !
Peter, It is never too late to learn Spanish. saludos desde Caracas
Awesome video, Peter!
Ahahaha Peter ! Very enjoyable ! More then Mamiya Press 23 I'd like to hear from You about London
- in- the - '60ies photographer stories ;-) - I did Cinecittà, Shepperton, Hollywood .. I promise I will be your free of charge Director and Cameraman.. Bravo, Photography is sweat and pain..
I used to have a very similar Koni-Omega Rapid 100. Supposedly the Mamiya press camera design for this and others were inspired very heavily by the Koni-Omega afte Mamiya bought the production from Konica. Don't know how much truth is to it but there is a very striking similarity minus the bolt action film advance and shutter cocking.
That Koni is a great camera, especially shooting news, sports and weddings. I wish I had one.
great photos mister !
Awesome Keep it up!
Very cool! Mine just arrived from Japan today, 100mm lens and 6x9 cartridge. I’m still struggling to find anyone who can actually scan these at a reasonable resolution. All my local photographers only do 1200 dpi and nobody does prints in anywhere near the quality I’d like. I’m also jealous you didn’t have to pay taxes, I paid 75 quid customs and taxes on top of postage from Japan and the price itself…
woow man...I just started film photography about a year ago with minolta's but man that Mamiya looks like a beauty ! :)
This is a very interesting and versatile Camera. Thanks for sharing this Peter. However, I will stick with my RZ67 which also allows perspective control movements with the adapters from Mamiya. It cant do 6x9 though.
monochrome17 And lighter than a Mamiya C220 camera with the same amount of lenses...
So helpful, thank you Peter :-)
To use the ground glass, would you need to remove it once you've composed the image and then mount the 120 film back again?
Great video indeed.
Here for the accent 😁
Ha Ha ! At least you were HERE !! Many Thanks !
greatly style camera to play with ;)
Thanks Peter, nice video. I am considering importing one from Japan, any tips? I don't suppose you are considering selling?
No Sorry -- not selling -- when they were easily available in 1968 not many bought them -- now they are well 'Discontinued' LOADS of people want them -- same as the 1970's Rolleiflexes , Kodak Panatomic -X film and Agfa 50 Ultra film !
@@theoldfilmbloke yes, that said they are remarkably good value for a "pro" level camera, compared to some of the alternatives.
Thanks for the great video Peter! I just found it trying to trouble shoot shoot an issue I am having when trying to fire the shutter. Possibly you could help? When I attempt to take a photo it wont fire unless I move both the shutter cocking lever and the shutter release lever on the bottom of the lens. Once I move both those I can fire using the trigger on the handle. I just shot with this camera yesterday and did not have to advance anything but the shutter clocking lever to take a photo so I am not sure if I pressed something when pulling it out of the camera bag... I am a bit unfamiliar to this camera as I just bought it but I love it and want to get back out there and shoot with it!
Usually you only ned to set the shutter cocking spring lever - can't understand any more what to tell you sorry.
@@theoldfilmbloke Well at least I know I am not losing my mind! Its a new camera for me but I thought I only had to move the one lever to shoot. Can’t imagine what happened in my camera bag. It’s weird if I don’t move both levers and just try to move the shutter lever it won’t stay advanced just moves back to the starting position. Guess I will have to find a repair shop. Thanks for the reply and all the awesome videos!
Peter Elgar I have 2 questions for you: 1- When we insert a mask in the 6x9 back does the mask changes the film advance in terms of length? As 6x9 gives 8 shots and 6x6 for example gives 12 I assume that the advance of the film must be different in those different situations, right? Question 2: When we use the back movements what is the steps process... We do the movement, then focus just once (hiperfocal distance?) and that it or we need to readjust the movement and focusing again? I am saying this because I know that using a large format bellows camera this is the procedure. Thank you in advance for your help. Oh by the way I just found and bought today on Ebay one set of masks for my 6x9 back!!! (rare to find)
thanks!
Really interesting :-)
Mr Peter I have a 635 yashica you can talk about that camera
Sorry -- I have never seen or had a Yashica 635 so cannot talk about it.
tilting working best when handholded and being nervous.....
Don Mccullin uses one
Hey Pete hope all is well quick question if you see this but i have a the mamiya 75mm 5.6 lens and i want to do some rilt shift with the back bellows but not sure which body i need to use wirh it because I only have the lens any suggestions
You need the Super 23 body as the cheaper one does not have back movements as far as I remember
thank you, great demonstration as usual mr Elgar :) With the focusing & Scheimpflug principle: when you mention focusing at the top: are you actually talking about what you see in the bottom of the viewfinder? as the image visible in the viewfinder is turned upside-down... I found this part rather puzzling, I 'm afraid. What I also do not understand is all the activity that you explain, like opening aperture & put time on lens, to focus. After focusing when everything is set correctly , I assume you would reset aperture and time to desired values. Does this not imply that, doing all that, you either need a very sturdy tripod in order to keep all the variables constant, or a marker for your feet on the ground ? (this last remark as I saw, ages ago, professionals in commercial studios using those markers. Yet this was all for product commercials, so basically non-moving subjects). Sorry for being so elaborate, don't know how else to phrase it...
I explained that the 'Top' of the Screen is where you focus the 'Near' subjects ( as image is Inverted) by gently pulling out the struts then the near subjects 'snap into Focus. YES -- you have to have camera on Tripod to do this ! Of course you have to have the lens OPEN on 'Time' to see anything . There is a locking Lever to keep shutter open. Then you have to REMEMBER to reset shutter and aperture to values you want.
its not 6x9cm format. its 6x9 but image is 84mm long.
best is loading on the legs!
Hello Mr. Peter Elgar. And thanks for the video, it´s great! I think I have watched three times. I was wondering if you could give me some advice on a Mamiya Universal camera I bought recently. It came with the 65mm f/6.3 lens and a viewfinder to put in the cold shoe. What I haven´t been able to figure out is how to open the lens up for focusing except by putting it on time. The camera came with a focusing back. I certainly would be grateful for any help on this!
Good Day Valdimar and thanks for watching ! I have that same lens, To open lens for focusing with screen you set 'B' on shutter speed ring then look near the 3mm flash plug you will see a little 'lever' on a pivot were you can fire shutter manually -- set shutter spring and pull lever and it will 'lock' the shutter open on 'B' until you are finished, then push lever back and shutter will close. Hope this helps. Peter
@@theoldfilmbloke Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it. Looking forward to getting to know the Mamiya.
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Are you able to shoot 4x5 large format on this mamiya?
NO -- of course it takes only 120 or 220 Rollfilm !!
METZ - Mecablitz 402 with four Twins 6 Volt and 230 Volt
Those were the days.
Metz Made in Germany - Bavaria; gone.
Now it is made in China....
write down the slidesize on the frame and dont explain if you dont know how.
a lot is wrong. above all tilting with nonretractable lenses!
Nul j'arriverais jamais a démonter mon objectif...
J'abandonne !