I filmed this before The Last Jedi came out and just happened to be exactly right about Phasma's armor. Heh. NEW mini-ep over on my Insta: instagram.com/sci_phile/ And don't worry, moving away from Star Wars for the next two episodes. Thanks for watching! -- KH
Nerdist But Star Wars Blaster bolts don’t act like lasers at all. It wouldn’t be visible if it was a laser and it would hit its target instantaneously instead of traveling in slow visible bolts. Also doesn’t help that your explanation contradicts information from both Legends and Disney Canon
You're pretty darn close the big thing is is that it's actually really rare for the Stormtroopers to actually die, if there is too much damage done the armor will knock them out I think it releases gas in the helmet or something I don't remember
The armor actually disperses the blaster shots so most of the Stormtroopers getting shot are actually fainting from exhaustion because of the armor dispersing the blaster shot
Bojack that’s still pretty useless. In the heat of battle, an unconscious Trooper is as useful as a dead one. You might fight another day, but if you can’t carry on, then their’s no point in even wearing it.
Clone armor - It stops the blaster _(Or you survive or you die in some hours...)_ Stormtrooper armor - It absorbs the blaster _(You probably survive a shot.)_ Mandalorian Armor, made of Beskar - It reflects the blaster _(This thing keep you alive against light sabers, blasters and bullets.)_ Jedi Robe - It increases your magic powers, maybe. _(Is really cool)_
actually jedi robes are kinda stupid its never said armor stops them from using the force and they can use the force to increase they physical capabilities so not like its gonna encumber them and in legends you can see some old republic sith lords using battle armor
Eh, it is and isn’t. There are several reasons why the Jedi don’t use armor on a regular basis, probably the most common one being due to training. Fighting in loose clothing and fighting in armor are two very different experiences. Armor adds weight and does restrict movement. While there are armors like the stormtroopers where it is light and made to somewhat be bearable in mobility, that is mostly taking a soldiers mobility into consideration, not a Jedis. Jedi use various powers and forms to augment their abilities, many of them focusing on how they move around the battlefield. Form IV lightsaber combat, for example, utilizes extremely difficult acrobatic maneuvers that would otherwise be difficult with armor on. This isn’t to say that no Jedi used armor at all, but it was fairly uncommon. Obi Wan used a full suit of clone body armor in the beginning of the war to help him survive against blasters. Once he became more proficient in deflecting blaster bolts he removed sections of the armor for the sake of mobility. Even in the Old Republic era there were Jedi who utilized sections of armor into their robes. Another reason as to why you don’t see more Jedi using armor is that armor typically costs money. While the Jedi were a part of the republic and greatly respected and often requested for help in military operations, they weren’t always given a great deal of funding. In times of war this would be easier since I believe the republic gave them star fighters and such, but in times of peace owning and up keeping armor would be considerably more difficult. Most Jedi lived frugal lives, often times having very little money or material possessions as a form of discipline. This lack of funding is part of the reason why armor is a bit more of a rarity among Jedi and could very from one to the next.
@Korbin Although I could easily see a Jedi deciding to go rogue and become a mercenary. Mandalorian armor doesn't really prevent their mercs from being 'jump-around-like-a-kangaroo-on-acid-with-a-jetpack' style, and doesn't really restrict their mobility at all -- as seen in clone wars. From that point on, the MAIN threat to a jedi is being surrounded from literally all sides to where he can't possibly deflect all incoming blasts, so the mandalorian armor might come in handy then.
It's possible it's also just tradition or religion based. Or it could be the whole (it looks cooler) but finding reasons are funner... And yes I'm the guy who puts logic into anime.
The Stormtrooper's armor is also designed to spread the energy out over their entire body, effectively stunning them. So when you see a trooper go down he might not be dead from the blaster hit but just immobilized.
Which also makes them immune to weaponry that doesn't have a high energy output, like balistic weaponry. Even .50cal wouldn't knock them out being displaced across their whole body (though it'd probably hurt, a lot).
Almost. The armor was only *resistant* to projectile weapons and blast shrapnel and protecting the wearer from glancing blaster bolts. Even this advanced armor often couldn't always save its wearer from direct blaster shots. However, it was possible for a trooper to survive direct hits, and after a quick bath in bacta, he was ready for service again. Slugthrowers were projectile weapon that fired solid projectiles enveloped in energy (known as slugs), as opposed to the energy bolts of a blaster. Slugthrowers were used by the Tusken Raiders of Tatooine. Fun Fact - These were surprisingly useful against lightsabers, as when a slug made contact with a blade, it simply melted instead of being deflected like a blaster bolt. These melted embers could then fly toward the face or hands of the lightsaber user. Sauce - Wookieepedia Edit - words
Evil Paragon 2 a .50 cal armor piercing would rip right through the armor though. It'll disperse the shock throughout the entire body but the slug will still go through and fuck up the stormtrooper. Also if it does stop it, the shock from a .50 will kill you even if the shock is dispersed throughout the body. A 50 cal hits with 12000-15000ft/lbs of energy. No one, wearing any sort of armor can survive that.
eh boron carbide might argue that "no one can survive a hit like that" since its designed to break apart the round itself and force its surface area to increase drastically relative to its volume. Seeing a 7.62 round leave no impact on non hardened clay after it hit the plate is quite surprising to say the least. AP rounds though were designed to rip through armor so yeah its going to go through, granted if you have that kind of firepower on hand then its probably not for the regular troops. Thing about weapons and armor is practicality and just because its more powerful doesn't mean its more useful. Compare the HVAP of the 76mm Sherman to the 17lb Sabot used by the Sherman Firefly and you see despite the fact the sabot has insanely high penetration, the fact it cant reliably hit the target made it not as useful as the HVAP round which could still pen the 4 in of armor the tiger had reliably at 500 yards. There is compromise to everything, as a barret 50 isnt exactly light to use.
Duncecap64 well the smaller lighter barret m107a3 is quite wieldy, check Miculek shooting one at pretty much full auto speeds. You could also set yourself up far away with a 50cal Gatling gun (gau19) and lay waste to an entire army of stormtroopers. And bullets go way faster than the blaster shots.
Plastoid armor does exactly as Kyle stated. Even though most stormtroopers in the films look like they're dead upon hit, the force of the blast knocks them out, and in the (canon) EU it states that stormies survive around 70%-80%of hits from plasma weapons
Also, you can see in stormtrooper helmets, but only if you the owner/user of it. in other words, if you use the helmet every day/you are the owner of it, the armor activates it's targeting system(it exists). Disclaimer : this is legends not canon info
the recent canon book twilight company re-confirms most of that information and talks about a few of the armors other features and its psychological effects on the wearer
Ne0spartan we see them go down, we don't see what happened next. Could be they have Imperial MASH units, or there are millions of troopers, and the ones that get killed are replaced, and killed and replaced ad nauseum.
I think there is also another explanaition. When a modern soldier in an armor vest is hit - he is usually incapacitated at least temporarily by the hit even if a bullet is stopped. Modern armor is the same compromise, especially regarding weight and mobility. Its designed more to prevent letal injuries than to make a soldier a dreadnought collecting bullets and still killing enemies. Are we sure all those stormtroopers are really dead? We might jus see most of them in the next battle after a week in a hospital.
I have this same theory, yes the troopers go down, BUT are they dead? We couldn’t conceive of this in our modern military, all soldiers are valuable on some level, but in the Empire where Stormtroopers are considered elite soldiers and at the same time expendable in comparison to their mission. We see plenty of troopers go down with the other Troopers not even batting an eye because they’re trained to be focused only on the task at hand. But I do remember in A New Hope after the opening battle when Vader boards the ship, one trooper cradling another that had been shot, maybe implying that the trooper was still alive at the time, just incapacitated.
In the Clone Wars series one of the main clone captains gets shot by a sniper and it put him on his ass. Didn't kill him but he had to take a few days to recover.
You couldn't really tell because there seems to be absolutely no indication of the identity of the soldier, or even their rank (only officers wear rank insignia in SW). In a 'real' military, there are different grades of privates and corporals and whatnot and they are all identifiable by rank insignia on their uniforms, while the Star Wars Imperial military doesn't display this. This makes the soldiers even more replaceable, and also makes it more difficult for the opponents to tell the true size of the imperial forces
I think in the expanded universe, they confirm that most of the storm-troopers we see get shot in the films do actually survive, thanks to their armor, but are incapacitated, and in need of medical assistance.
Yeah, I think most hardcore star wars fans ignore that part of the film... As well as the prequels and the changes in the re-releases of the original trilogy.
When you consider the cost of having to recruit and train new soldiers to replace the ones that get killed thanks to their cheap, shitty armor, wouldn't it be vastly cheaper in the long run to just give them good armor? The cheap armor would also adversely affect morale, thus reducing combat effectiveness and resulting in even more deaths and possibly even causing the loss of battles, meaning you lose valuable territory and resources. And when people see how poorly equipped your troops are and how high their mortality rate is, that's going to make it increasingly difficult to recruit replacements, which would require you to spend even more money on more propaganda and recruitment offices.
it does not kill them, they just pass out from the shot being safely dispersed throughout their entire body, they just put them in a bacta tank for 1 minute and there good.
@@canada9169 2 years late but it’s a common misconception that a shot kills them. It actually disperses the energy across their entire body, which overwhelms the nervous system and knocks them out. That’s why the first time we see them, the troopers are checking their comrade’s bodies to see if they’re still alive. Also, going back to the Tarkin doctrine, overwhelming uniform force makes the Empire seem unending
Thought of the day: Armour that incaps you from a single hit is worse than no armour at all. Now the enemy has prisoners and can just doubletap or headcheck your guys. AMAZING! You might as well axe the limb armour and cover the chest and forearms with thicker plates. Now they might stay in the fight and cost the same.
It has been confirmed in legends that when Stormtroopers get shot the armour makes the blast spread out and simply incapacitates the trooper instead of killing them, the trooper will survive and regain consciousness in a few hours
Even before. Acess to effectivly an entire galaxy means effectivly infinite resources. The hard part is how to get those resources without destroying hubdres or millions of planetary economies. And as totalitarian as the emperor may have been and how little he cared about the people of the galaxy, he didnt want to destroy his empiere's economy.
They wear armor, or at least helmets, so that they can be reused as other characters in other scenes. So in one scene, they can play a storm trooper, and then another scene. They can be an imperial officer or a rebel soldier.
If I rember correctly, I read in a book deemed canon by George Lucas (back when Lucasarts was still a thing) that stormtrooper armor is actually out of date and is made with inferior materials to what they have. It is made of a Mk 2 material, while they use a Mk 3 version in some parts of Tie Fighters, and a Mk 4 version in AT-ATs. I may be wrong, however, so please let me know if that is the case.
The armor is resistant to medium strength blasters, but the rebels usually use heavy very strong weapons that can one-hit the storm troopers. It is actually quite heavy and effective, but also cheap. It works by dispersing blaster fire across the body instead of stopping it. Also adding to the fact that many of the storm troopers are actually unconscious instead of dead, which is why in some of the movies you see them ‘come back from the dead.’
The blaster bolts are plasma, held together by a magnetic field And the stormtroopers fall because they pass out from the pain of the impact of the shot I think
You can't be held together by a magnetic field when there is no magnet in your center. The plasma would be a magnetic material, which would be insanely heated to make it a plasma. It would be like super heating neodymium or ferrite, which also makes it lose magnetivity.
@General Grievous, it’s Star Wars. Tie fighters shouldn’t be able to fly in atmosphere, and there is no way short of a magical space crystal to power a lightsaber as there depicted in the movies, besides I didn’t make this up that’s how it’s explained in the comics
Somewhat, it's like the warriors called the "immortals" in Persian army, if one falls down then another takes it place. A constant stream of a group of people who only want one thing - you out of the picture. I think That would be quite intimidating and mentally exhausting.
The armour was designed with the fear factor in mind, yes, but having everyone wear the same stuff doesn't instill fear. I mean, look at Phase 1 clone troopers. Do they look scary?
There's a difference between 'scary' and 'intimidating'. 'Scary' is entirely subjective and is to instil fear, which could trigger fight instincts where the target will make it a point to take down as many as they can as fast as they can and give others a chance to get away. 'Intimidating' is less subjective and is to demoralise, which is more likely to result in the target throwing down their weapon and surrendering.
In legends the armor made it so that Stormtroopers would be knocked unconscious instead of killed by a direct blaster hit. Not sure if this applies in Canon.
Also from a "behind the scenes" stand point, it's practical and cheaper to use the same handful actors wearing the same, faceless armor. A storm trooper killed in one scene, can be used again in another and everyone is none the wiser. 🤓
My idea on blaster is they are concussive weapons and not designed to pierce. Because lets face, it weapons that can cut and tear through things on space ships is a bad idea for space infantry warfare. But a weapon that hits a target then almost instantly transfers all it's energy into a single shock, is safer in space ships and stations. Thus when a bolt hits someone it is like getting hit with a sledge hammer, thus bones break and organs bruise or rupture. But if it strikes a hull plate or something, it is less likely to create a hull breach. This kinda explains why the armor takes light damage to it but the people go down so hard. Because those people getting hit, are having an entire section of their body is getting smashed from the extreme shock. And remember skin is good at holding things together under such conditions, they aren't exploding into a bloody mess either. Which would happen if a large amount of heat energy pierced into the body and well vaporized part of it.
Which is kinda what we've seen happen to unarmoured people in starwars, they get thrown back with force and sometimes roasted to a crisp depending on the weapon.
So what you are saying is a blaster do damage by force and not by Peirceing and do to the way storm trooper armour is constructed it displaces the shock causing the storm trooper to be knocked out
Agree w/ Alejandro here. Just cuz they all fall down doesn’t mean they all die. Just that guy who fell down the shaft... Getting hit w/ a bullet in our modern armor hurts like hell too. I’d fall down and cry for mommy for a few seconds too
I say warp demons any one and if we are talking humans then a silent one or sister of battle noooo wait the ones who guard the emporer of man... Bless his holyness
The armor stops the blast from killing the trooper. It just 'spreads' the blast so that they just get wounded/knocked out. You can see some of the troops slightly moving in different instances in the series and movies
That's most likely because of poor acting more than anything else. In a clip showed in this video where Luke shoots a stormtrooper he hits him in the shoulder and the stormtrooper still reacts like dying and falls off.
Hatesh Warkio Because the force of the blaster is spread over as much as the armour as possible, and knocks the trooper out. It's kinda hard to stay upright when you lose consciousness.
*Nathan Mason* Then the armor is completely useless. We've seen people getting hit with a blaster and not getting knocked out by it. Even getting hit by several blasters into an armor and not getting knocked out by it.
Hatesh Warkio Nah not really, personally I can't think of a time in the OT that happens, but you could chalk that up to the rebellion not using standardised blasters, some being more powerful than others. The only consistant blaster they seem to have though is Solo's DL-44, punching through most armours and even the occupants.
*Nathan Mason* Isn't there Han Solo shot into the arm and still continuing the fight during episode V or VI? Why does the rebellion which are basically criminals for the Empire have better blasters than the Empire? And where did they get them? Why isn't Stormtrooper's armor then better as protection for the most likely weapon to be used against it? If it is because it is supposed to be cheap then isn't better for those Stormtroopers die anyway instead of being knocked out? Dead Stormtrooper means one down for your army. Knocked out Stormtrooper means one down for your army for this battle and if you lose it is a potential leak of information or even a new member of rebellion and if you win he has to be taken care of and sent to some medical wing on the ship or something which costs money too. Why does the Stormtrooper's mask have something like upside down smiley or mustache, depends on how you view, on it?
As in real life armour, there is protection but not invulnerability. the real question is: how do blasters fire lasers slower than the speed of light? and what advantage would it bring?
In Legends, blasters are plasma weapons. Well, to be more accurate... they're particle beam weapons. They are fueled by a gas, that is then heated up and sped up. They aren't laser weapons. The physical impact of even that small amount of mass hitting you that quickly, plus the temperature change, and finally the air pressure change when it impacts a surface makes it easy to conclude that the stormtroopers' armor works. It just is better at keeping them alive than to actually keep them in the fight. This plus the fact that these troopers are hired to do this. They aren't like the clones, so making sure they survive is more important than keeping them in the fight. Which you prefer if you were offered a suit of armor? 80% chance to survive the shot, but you are knocked out 50% chance for you to die to the shot but you aren't knocked out if you do survive
he had explained why it would be impossible for blasters to be plasma weapons in the video, and why did you press return twice after every thought about this put down? Keeping it s 1 or 2 paragraphs would have been so much better.
Lasers behave absolutely nothing like what we see in star wars. Plasma is "basically gases", but it's a lot denser and viscous than gases, so it stays together a lot better than normal gases (well, it's obviously not a gas at all. More like a mix between a gas and a liquid). It's also electromagnetic, so electromagnetism can be used to keep a bolt together. If you look at plasma cutters the plasma doesn't just fart out in every direction like Kyle would want us to believe. It goes forward in a stream, until it cools down to a normal gas again.
I know Wikipedia isn't the best source for information but this is the closest thing to what I was talking about. Plasma weapons of sorts are in the works but are experimental. "The weapon was able to produce doughnut-shaped rings of plasma and balls of lightning that exploded with devastating thermal and mechanical effects when hitting their target and produced pulse of electromagnetic radiation that could scramble electronics." Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER It is obvious that we can't produce anything on the scale or as refined as Starwars, but the science is heading in the direction. It has been proven that plasma can be fired out in a self-sustaining doughnut shape. If you were to tighten it up a whole lot, it would probably look a lot like a blaster bolt. It also stated that it explodes on impact which would explain the way Starwars blaster bolts seem to explode on impact. My comment was mainly to state the more likely reason for the armor being the way it is. It seemed to be a bit far-fetched that the empire (which has lots of press to deal with) would risk using armor that didn't work most of the time. I mean, most modern military body armor for troops can block ~3-4 rifle shots. With the way Stormtroopers were dropping you'd think that they would be better off without the armor. It would make sense for them to be knocked out though as it would ensure that the wearer would be more likely to survive. Hell, even getting shot in modern days wearing a bulletproof vest can knock you out if you aren't used to the force and people seem to like them as is. Why would that change a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away?
Love your stuff, and I just wanna toss in some lore that existed (extended universe) at least before it was dismissed by Disney. Blasters: They utilize Plasma as they suggest, keeping it liquidized via a special energy coating (kinda like force field tech they use for hanger bays and such) until contact in which it then detonates. Storm-trooper Armour: The Armour is cheap, as you've said - But what it does is distributes the damage through the black-suit underneath, which is designed to regulate more then just environmental - But also impact/kinetic energy... The Armour isn't designed to be a solution against being attacked - But rather to ensure they'll survive with no more then a Knock Out, so that they can get strapped into new Armour afterwards and sent back into the War Effort. Survival VS Combat Activeness. It was designed with that intent because the old Clone Trooper Armour was tough vs survivable - Clone Trooper Armour was meant to take hits so you could keep fighting but if you got hit in just the right spot, you'd be dead for sure basically. Keep up the good shit, just hope this mayhaps explains some confusion!
Well grorge lucas im pretty sure didn't major in any type of sience and just thought it'd make sense and went with it. A plasma sword makes more sense than a plasma blaster, i mean you need extreme heat to be able to cut through a blast door so.. an oversized archwelder makes sense i guess (probably the wrong example but you get my point i hope)
Dude, big flaw... Wouldn't it be more logical to assume that they have technology to keep plasma as a bolt than changing the speed of light? Sigh. Edit: In Star Wars canon the ammunition used for blasters is called Tibanna gas. Take that as you will.
I don't know about the new canon but in the old EU blasters had magnetic coils in their barrels that kept the blaster bolts from losing coherence as they fly out.
I don't think plasma is quite the right term, but it's definitely not lasers. Maybe some other sort of charged particles, perhaps one we don't really know about yet.
That covers the theory my wife and I came up with as well, when our daughter, now an RN, asked us when we introduced her to the OT. Based in part on flak jackets, and the armor issued when dad was in the Corps, and the armor her mom was issued, before taking her retirement in 2013. Even took her to a company that makes modern soft, and hard armor, when we were out west. And as someone who is here because he was wearing a level 3A vest, how kevlar works, is spot on with your example. Well done my fellow long haired student of the applied sciences. It also works the same way with arrows or bolts, tangling the broadhead, spreading out the force over a larger area. Saved my life against a guy holding up a gas station one night, in my early 20s. Ended up fired, not because of the vest, but because I ignored the no weapons rule, at work. Second Chance saved my life, and allowed me, and a customer, to stop the threat. Great video man.
the emperor is an idiot he wasted money on a death star when he could have invincible storm troopers IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TERRYFYING THAN A SOLDIER YOU CANNOT KILL ?
I also think it's important to realize whenever we see storm troopers they fight and succeed via overwhelming numbers. As dark as it sounds the armor could be made cheaply enough to kill the trooper that is hit but strong enough to not be penetrated and kill an entire squad in one shot. Maybe it's made to tailor to their overwhelming numbers tactics and is about unit survival over individual survival. This would be in line with how storm troopers are seen in the star wars canon.
Skribduex the armor usually kept the troopers alive in most fights against most publicly purchased blasters. If you look deeply enough into the lore of the weapons many of the rebels had blaster pistols much stronger than the accounted for toughness of the armor
Repins Watson gladly Plastoid, or plasarmor, was the material used in the armor of the Galactic Republic's clone troopers, and later in the ImperialStormtrooper Corps. Plastoid tubing was often used to reinforce the walls of buildings. Some of the structures in Mos Eisley on Tatooine were made from this material. Plastoid was also used to produce sturdy chairs and other furniture, and even non-lethal slug rounds. These plastoid rounds were known to be used by the Republic's Senate Commandos for crowd control and situations where killing was undesirable. One place where chairs manufactured of this material were found was on the Galactic Alliance ship Admiral Ackbar. Plastoid was also used as a prosthetic material. Mirta Gev was one such user who used the material to repair her broken nose
I always felt that this whole "laser"-gun concept was totally unrealistic, since in the movies the bolts travelled definitely slower than lightspeed, and as you said, a reflective suit (even cheaply made) would be a dozen times more effective in preventing blaster bolt penetration (also in space battles). So why don't they all wear reflective armor, or why are spaceships not mirroring? A, in my opinion, better explanation for this blaster bolt phenomenon would be that all blaster weapons in star wars shoot actual projectiles, maybe containing or emitting plasma, and this could also explain why Stormtroopers wear so thin armor: As seen many times before, the Empire is more about showing power than being actually effective in weapon/ship design, so maybe the armor is only build for "smaller calibers" like handguns, since they are the most common weapons in Star Wars... Also, in canon (in this case The Clone Wars) troopers often refer to "ammunition", which wouldn't make sense since laser guns would be powered by battery.
@@PibbDFanta blaster bolts are superheated plasma held together by a force field. Also those aren't laser weapons because if you had a laser strong enough to dig in the armor you are looking at around 3-10 watts which will fry your eyes faster than you can blink.
I don't know where I heard this, but the armor isn't supposed to deflect or absorb the blaster shot, it is supposed to dissipate the balster shot so basically a larger non-lethal wound as opposed to a small but deep lethal one
@Chrisrtian Dauz They don't die, they're incapacitated as Toto Wolff stated. Its similar to be tasered which is why they collapse and fall down instantly. Larger weapons found on space craft however can be lethal as it would overwhelm the dissipating action and still inflict a lethal amount of energy. Additionally, some rebels carry larger illegally modified weapons which can be lethal, but most rebels don't have access to these, only the elite tier special ops types.
Which it idiotically didn't in Episode 7 - there Phasma was held at gun-point with the same type of weapons to which in episode 8 she apparently was immune while wearing the same suit of chrome armor.
I can tell you I'd definitely take storm trooper armor over none on the Star Wars battlefield. Otherwise in a matter of seconds the radiation from missed laser shots would still be enough to knock you out if not kill you outright
Stormtroopers who get shot by blaster-fire are down but not out, Stormtrooper armor is especially effective against "slug-throwers" or ballistic weapons, which is something poor people would probably buy over a more expensive blaster weapon. Stormtrooper armor would be invaluable when taking over indigenous people (for the planets ore/minerals/resources/labor) who only have said slug-throwers in the the disorganized galaxy.
Alright, I'll play the part of the wet blanket. They have armor and masks for philosophical reasons. Simply put, because it's a lot easier to watch your heroes mow down waves of living beings if they don't have faces and they all look alike. Notice how George Lucas switched to robots as soon as CGI would allow it, in the prequels, for the same reason. Killing human looking people with personalities is what the bad guys do!
No shit genius, ya want a cookie? Everyone knows the "real" reason anything happens in fiction, because the author wanted X, the director wanted Y, the game studio wanted Z etc. etc. That's *not* the answer people are looking for when they go into deep dives into fiction like this, they want the in-universe answer.
The way I always thought it is that even though we see the Stormtroopers going down after being shot, doesn't necessarily mean that they die. If you shoot someone whose wearing kevlar, they will probably go down but still survive or at least have a chance at surviving. Without armor, death is almost certain.
Going into the expanded universe a little here, but a lot of those storm troopers who are hit do not die, the armor is purposefully designed to spread out the force of the blaster bolt, and knock them unconscious. After the firefight is over medics retrieve the bodies and bring them in for medical attention. The clone troopers armor was a lot thicker as well.
I think that the stormtroopers should just take some of the rebels clothing because that seems to be completly indestructible, like c'mon Han Solo basically wore the same clothing during the entire original trilogy and it wasn't even scratched
JokeReloader Keep in mind that the storm trooper’s misses were almost all against the A team, which included 2 force sensitive individuals who could potentially deflect blaster fire subconsciously, and a guy who was born lucky.
Memory metal could be the simple answer. If you have never seen it, it looks like magic. There are vids on UA-cam where it’s in a coil/or plate, and they stretch it out or kink it. When they add heat it goes back to its original shape. Otherwise, a super-strong Metal near its low-temp melting point, as his skin, should be flexible enough for Colossus to move.
No. Clones get shot, but they keep on fighting (even with headshots). They either really die, or the armor is barley heavy enough to leave them mortally wounded.
Mar Speedsman basically clone armor gives you wounds that are fatal in a couple of hours but you can keep fighting for those couple of hours, but the stormtrooper armor basically knocks you out for a couple of hours but when you wake up you can just grab a gun and fight some more
Clone armor - Stop the blaster _(Or you survive or you die in some hours...)_ Stormtrooper armor - Absorb the blaster _(You probably survive a shot.)_ Mandalorian Armor, made of Beskar - Deflect the blaster _(This thing keep you alive against light sabers, blasters and bullets.)_
Not to mention its semi effective against projectile weapons. Most storm troopers get incapacitated, not killed- at least in Legends. As for Phasma, JJ tried and failed to make the Boba Fett/Darth Maul of this trilogy. She had a good run in 8 but was a joke in 7. I like that you pointed that out about the armor :)
"Not to mention its semi effective against projectile weapons." Assuming this is even true, almost no one uses, making it useless. "As for Phasma, JJ tried and failed to make the Boba Fett/Darth Maul of this trilogy. She had a good run in 8 but was a joke in 7." Not sure what this has to do with this video, but both boba fett and darth maul were punks that didn't get much screentime at all. And both died in fairly hilarious, ridiculous ways. I think Phasma was pretty cool. She didn't get much screentime, and I was disappointed with her depiction in Ep 8, but don't make those other characters out to be any better. And don't bring in that non-canon legends crap that made up ridiculous excuses to bring dead characters back to life after they obviously died.
the thing is... if you are galactic empire and have power to blow up planets then in MOST of the times you do not need troopers to actually make fighting - if you wipe out enemy fleet and bombard their anti-air/anti-space defences they are defenceless and your troopers are just occupation force and not actual "storm" one. And going back to "Ewoks case" - GE could not wipe planet as they tried to make its usefulness/purpose as hidden as possible but they deployed some troopers and AT-ST as general defence force of their hidden base. In normal circumstances (i.e. if Ewoks rebels on their own) they could always eradicate life on planet from orbit so they do not really had to care about long lasting defences.
Plus also there is that the Alliance prefers to arm it's troops with heavy blasters which can pierce all but the heaviest armor(Storm Troopers wear medium armor(Scout troopers light))
Arcane_Rogue bullshit how could they? you mean the resistance whom are heavily underfunded can afford the best guns? but the government cant? wtf? stop watching game theory/film theory he's almost always wrong
Eh, the rebellion used to be the republic, the single greatest political power in the universe. The empire is Run Like Soviet Russia, China, and North Korea. The Republic was run much more similarly to the way the U.S. is run. What happened was that the Republic was overthrown by an elected politician that was using his position to begin feuds with other governments such as the Trade Federation, etc. Specifically, he was creating unacceptable trade blockades and tarrifs on the goods produced by the trade federation(they made most of the droids and biodroid technology that the Republic imported). The blockades and tariffs got so ridiculous that a war broke out, with the Trade Federation blowing the doors off of the capital city of Naboo, a strong political hub. In the hysteria of war, he managed to basically get himself elected emperor. The people who founded the rebellion and eventually the new Republic were basically the elites of the old Republic, with nearly limitless sums of money and things, that they simply had to tuck away on distant planets and carefully manage. Also, a lot of connections run deep and after what went down, between the many other governments across the galaxy and the newly founded Empire(which basically backstabbed them all) it's pretty easy to call in favors or at the very least get access to purchase high end weaponry. It is important to note that x-wings were built with cutting edge technology at the time they were being used by the Rebellion, and that while they couldn't outrun Tie Fighters in a straight sprint, they were typically more agile, had better on-board communications and strategic instruments. No, the rebellion was not poor, they were however growing tired, and their numbers were dwindling down. As far as access to good weapons, spacecraft, etc. They were good to go. Anyone in the universe with the guts to do so, was backing them 100%.
I remember hearing somewhere that the stormtrooper armor is designed so that when they get hit they get knocked out and can later wake up to fight another day
Mistakes: 1. blasters form a bolt so they can't shoot lasers, which form a ray. 2. unlike most pepole think stormtroopers DO NOT die in most situations thay are stunned, except they are hit by armor piercing blaster from short range, or getting blown by a thermal detonator...
While olodemolo MCAroom is correct that most troopers are essentially put into a "down but not out" state when hit there is the thing that most hits we see in the movies are made with heavy blasters which can pierce most armor so most of the troopers we see get hit probably do die.
"Read wookiepedia..." That's non-canon legends bullshit. I only care about what's in the actual movies, and when a guy is hit in the chest and goes down, it stands to reason that the dude is dead. "While olodemolo MCAroom is correct that most troopers are essentially put into a "down but not out" state when hit" I don't buy it, despite what legends would have you believe.
Star Wars blasters ARE plasma weapons, the shots are wrapped in EM fields that prevent them from dispersing immediately. Also, it's explained in the expanded Star Wars material (canon, and legends) that Storm Trooper armor is in fact sufficient to allow them to survive blaster fire, it just usually knocks them out, or at least injures them so they are temporarily taken out of the fight. But except for Wilhelm, who fell to his death, most of the Storm Troopers injured by hand weapons in the movies actually didn't die of their injuries.
This is about the Science of how it would work, and he explained quite well how being plasma bolt wouldn’t . No matter what a Sci-fi writer wants to say. Unless our have a scientific explanation, for how the magnetic field holding the plasma wouldn’t almost instantly collapse, once it loses its power source?
Maybe because this exact explanation is actually scientific fact. We've created EM fields that allow plasma to hold together and be projected out moderate distances. So it's ALOT more scientifically sound to extrapolate that out to a more efficient version that allows blaster bolts to travel even further, than it is to suggest that blasters somehow slow down light to accomplish their damage in a way that is completely counter to what we're shown and told in the Star Wars universe. In short, Kyle is actually ignoring both canon fiction and science here in favor of a made-up fantasy explanation for some reason I personally can't fathom. If he's willing to accept that plasma containment technology in the Star Wars galaxy is sufficient to create light sabers, then it is MORE than sufficient to create blasters.
Khodexus successfully holding plasma in a continuously powered field, like in a lightsaber, is a easy leap to make. Trying to explain how plasma can be held together, at super-high pressures basically indefinitely, after leaving the powered magnetic field, would go against everything this series is about. There is just no plausible scientific explanation how plasma would be able to stay that way, without invoking “well the author wrote it that way”. Unless the claim is the guns are projecting a powerful magnetic field the entire way to the target. This series is about finding a (relatively)plausible explanation for sci-fi and sometimes the answer is: “The writer didn’t know what they were talking about, and this might be a way to make them plausible.” It doesn’t change anything outside of that. You can still believe they work which ever way you want.
My issue is that he ignores plausible science that closely matches what we're shown and told, in favor of creating a completely different 'fiction' for no justifiable reason. He does it all the time, in fact. I don't know if it's because his knowledge of real world science is sometimes insufficient to the topic he's chosen, or if he's being lazy in his research, or what. But I will continue to call him out on his mistakes, oversights, and errors. Because science.
Copy of my reply Plasma is charged particles. A magnetic field can manipulate charges. When you apply a perpendicular magnetic field the charge changes path. If the field is strong enough and costant, upon entering it a charge would begin moving in a circular loop in the plane perpendicular to the field lines. It will keep it's momentum in the other directions. So a simple magnetic field would be applied in front the user, then the gun accelerates the plasma and shoot it. Then any change of motion the plasma has initially or becouse of other sort of resistance that would disperse the plasma will be converted in circular motion, overall you will have an helical trajectory that stays more or less on a straight line, that gets wider the longer is the distance. (Ps after thinking about it, becouse of the pressure of plasma, the bolt would expand and increase in lenght, but slowly, wich is kinda what we see, becouse any expansion in any perpendicular direction would make the every particle initially spin around the center and then fall back into the center, resisting the expansion force, while the effect would be less effective the more the direction gets close to the parallel one) If the plasma is hot enough and if the atmosphere doesn't make much resistance it should work at medium ranges. But this means that the plasma is really hot, and radiates heat. The armor would be white becouse it protects users reflecting the radiated heat that would flash you in the eyes and burn a bit your skin. Rebels just have to stand this heat. Shielding those projectiles would not be op either becouse you'll need a magnetic field perpendicular to where the shots are coming form, so you'll need a machine placed further than your soldiers and on the side, basically like a vulnerable moving trench that forces the plasma to hit the ground or go up in the sky, probably both if positive and negative charges are both present
Plasma by definition is electrically charged and carries a magnetic field. Thats why plasma != gas. Thats why solar flares don't just dissipate all around like a fart. It acts like a fluid. This guy on youtube didn't learn science.
That is correct - plasma is a complex fluid. A simple, stable form that keeps plasma together is a simple current loop. The Lorentz force keeps the plasma from dissipating. Another way to think about it would be the Z-pinch effect, but in a circle.
In star wars, the gas is actually turned into a solid chunk of energy and shot by magnetism. (Very short explanation.) A few guys in to comments have explained it in much greater detail if you can find them.
Kyle, Rogue One has a scene where a Stormtrooper takes several direct close range shots from another Stormtroopers blaster and it looked like he might have survived
Following the Clone Wars, The Emperor didn't care as much about the quality of the soldiers and suits that were used during the Clone Wars and replaced the Clones with regular human recruits. The emperor didn't feel as much of a need to get higher trooper quality and preferred large, intimidating numbers which explains why the Clone soldiers and armor was a lot better. This is why Rex, a Clone veteran states that the Clone armor is a lot better than the Stormtrooper armor.
shadowstarthe1st maybe, but just cause a product is better doesn't mean it has more quality. You can have a very high quality horse and cariage, but the crappiest car that works is better. That means that while the reference model may be superior, the fact there was hardly any QA means Rex's complaint was spot on. Granted, even if he did come across a well done set, his heavy bias would still kick in
+shadowstarthe1st sorry to burst your bubble but clone armour was actually wayyyy better than storm armour but it was still good at protecting the person inside
This is what I was thinking watching this video. When cops wearing armour are shot the protocol is to immediately check their vests for a bullet catch, which will look like a coin from splatting flat against it. The force is like a bowling ball smashing your chest can knock officers down, unconscious or keel over in extreme pain, but after medical attention is very survivable.
I remember Reading a comic Where they said it doesn’t kill them it knocks them out so it is much cheaper to put a trooper in a bacta tank if they get hit then give them really expensive armor
Also remember a miniature explosion is happening... so they are probably gonna fall down.. like you see in the film a lot. I imagine most survive but are in pretty bad shape.
Hi Kyle, The blaster as a DEW is a plasma weapon that conceivably uses laser energy to excite what is known in the SW universe as Tibanna gas into an energetic plasma. The plasma exits the barrel of the blaster, enveloped in a short-lived EM containment field that’s maintained by some of the energy contained in the plasma. Most every blaster has two different, depletable ammunition magazines that together create each energy bolt fired from the blaster. One of these “magazines” is a power supply characterized as having a significant energy density that energizes the plasma, creates the initial containment field and allows for the compression of the plasma into a smaller volume making for a more energetic round. The other “magazine” is a Tibanna gas cartridge that makes for the physical element of the blaster bolt. This description is pretty much the inner workings of how a blaster operates according to canon sources. The persistent EM containment is a matter of technology unknown to our early 21st century tech. Otherwise, the blaster bolt’s behavior is co-consistent with the observed effects and behaviors of the laser explanation posited by you.
3:05 Perhaps they use a similar method to the lightsabers, which are actually in-universe, just plasma blades. The plasma is kept in place via a magnetic field, the same way a Halo sword works.
I originally thought the same thing, but the question remains, how does the magnetic field remain stable or present, once it has left the blaster? I would think that the plasma energy would also have to be encapsulated around some energy cell which continuously creates a magnetic field, but this is speculation.
It is definitely defined as some form of particle projection, it's just what kind of particles, and how exactly it is projected as a bolt that remains a mystery.
They could use some kind of micro bullets that exist in the magazine, these would create small magnetic fields that would keep the plasma together and would be the thing that is propelled forward.
John smith even without thinking about the WH40K universe (wich is badass) even in "softer" franchises like mass effect, cerberus' s basic assault troopers looks more badass than stormtroopers
For anyone wondering; the armour needs to be imposing rather than effective because at that point in the empire's existence they were more of a peacekeeping force than a true military. They were already in power and most of their use came in the form of terrifying small rebellions from trying to rise up against the military might of the empire. They weren't prepared for a legitimate organized rebel alliance.
Assumption: Stormtroopers who are incapacitated are killed or even severely injured. Assumption: The plasma is uncontained when it exits the barrel. I believe lightsabers, bolts, and all SW energy weapons and tools supposedly use EMF containment to prevent this rapid dissipation. How the field is maintained in transit, I have no idea.... Assumption: Glancing and direct hits have differing effects.... That is all. .... I mean ok regardless what the blaster bolts are they would all have similar effects even if they "struck" in someone's very near vicinity, never mind hit them directly. But it would still likely not be lethal to an armored target (even some of our armor). ..... And also, if it is anything contained by an EMF, it would likely have a relatively short maximum range, but wouldn't lose much effectiveness over that range, unlike traditional "impact-based" weapons. Virtually no "bullet" drop or environmental influence, either, except other strong EMFs, which is presumably what shielding is primarily in the SW universe, which explains why star destroyers have 2 spaced spheres as the source of their shields and why torpedoes and ships can pass through them.
Also, if both Blasters and Lightsabers use electromagnetically contained plasma, it would explain why blaster bolts reflect off of lightsabers. The fields interact with each other. Which makes me think that there could be a situation where a Jedi tries to block a slugthrower shot with his lightsaber and gets shot in the face anyway. (I did the calculation. Even if the lightsaber had 5000°C, the bullet would heat up by a mere fraction of a degree while passing through it.)
I filmed this before The Last Jedi came out and just happened to be exactly right about Phasma's armor. Heh. NEW mini-ep over on my Insta: instagram.com/sci_phile/ And don't worry, moving away from Star Wars for the next two episodes. Thanks for watching! -- KH
Nerdist But Star Wars Blaster bolts don’t act like lasers at all. It wouldn’t be visible if it was a laser and it would hit its target instantaneously instead of traveling in slow visible bolts. Also doesn’t help that your explanation contradicts information from both Legends and Disney Canon
Nerdist nice prediction about phasma armor ;-)
You're pretty darn close the big thing is is that it's actually really rare for the Stormtroopers to actually die, if there is too much damage done the armor will knock them out I think it releases gas in the helmet or something I don't remember
Nerdist has me bath in a bacta tank and there ready for service
Nerdist literally was about to ask about phasmas armor. She took a blaster shot and didn't budge
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Plot armor
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In science fiction there's only one type of armour that actually works: Plot armour.
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The armor actually disperses the blaster shots so most of the Stormtroopers getting shot are actually fainting from exhaustion because of the armor dispersing the blaster shot
The Micropenis Maniac exactly. The heat energy is being spread over their entire body glove and causing them to pass out.
Thank you for mentioning this
Yes and also usually the KO”D stormtroopers are put in a Bacta tank for like 10minutes
Bojack that’s still pretty useless. In the heat of battle, an unconscious Trooper is as useful as a dead one. You might fight another day, but if you can’t carry on, then their’s no point in even wearing it.
@@howdoichangemyusername9802 yes but it's cheaper to keep them alive then recruit new troops and give them better armor
I think the actual answer is, George Lucas thought it looked cool.
* is:
And scarier
Well he thought right
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Clone armor - It stops the blaster
_(Or you survive or you die in some hours...)_
Stormtrooper armor - It absorbs the blaster
_(You probably survive a shot.)_
Mandalorian Armor, made of Beskar - It reflects the blaster
_(This thing keep you alive against light sabers, blasters and bullets.)_
Jedi Robe - It increases your magic powers, maybe.
_(Is really cool)_
actually jedi robes are kinda stupid its never said armor stops them from using the force and they can use the force to increase they physical capabilities so not like its gonna encumber them and in legends you can see some old republic sith lords using battle armor
Eh, it is and isn’t. There are several reasons why the Jedi don’t use armor on a regular basis, probably the most common one being due to training.
Fighting in loose clothing and fighting in armor are two very different experiences. Armor adds weight and does restrict movement. While there are armors like the stormtroopers where it is light and made to somewhat be bearable in mobility, that is mostly taking a soldiers mobility into consideration, not a Jedis. Jedi use various powers and forms to augment their abilities, many of them focusing on how they move around the battlefield. Form IV lightsaber combat, for example, utilizes extremely difficult acrobatic maneuvers that would otherwise be difficult with armor on.
This isn’t to say that no Jedi used armor at all, but it was fairly uncommon. Obi Wan used a full suit of clone body armor in the beginning of the war to help him survive against blasters. Once he became more proficient in deflecting blaster bolts he removed sections of the armor for the sake of mobility. Even in the Old Republic era there were Jedi who utilized sections of armor into their robes.
Another reason as to why you don’t see more Jedi using armor is that armor typically costs money. While the Jedi were a part of the republic and greatly respected and often requested for help in military operations, they weren’t always given a great deal of funding. In times of war this would be easier since I believe the republic gave them star fighters and such, but in times of peace owning and up keeping armor would be considerably more difficult. Most Jedi lived frugal lives, often times having very little money or material possessions as a form of discipline. This lack of funding is part of the reason why armor is a bit more of a rarity among Jedi and could very from one to the next.
@Korbin Although I could easily see a Jedi deciding to go rogue and become a mercenary. Mandalorian armor doesn't really prevent their mercs from being 'jump-around-like-a-kangaroo-on-acid-with-a-jetpack' style, and doesn't really restrict their mobility at all -- as seen in clone wars. From that point on, the MAIN threat to a jedi is being surrounded from literally all sides to where he can't possibly deflect all incoming blasts, so the mandalorian armor might come in handy then.
I want mandalorian armor
It's possible it's also just tradition or religion based. Or it could be the whole (it looks cooler) but finding reasons are funner... And yes I'm the guy who puts logic into anime.
The Stormtrooper's armor is also designed to spread the energy out over their entire body, effectively stunning them. So when you see a trooper go down he might not be dead from the blaster hit but just immobilized.
Which also makes them immune to weaponry that doesn't have a high energy output, like balistic weaponry.
Even .50cal wouldn't knock them out being displaced across their whole body (though it'd probably hurt, a lot).
Almost. The armor was only *resistant* to projectile weapons and blast shrapnel and protecting the wearer from glancing blaster bolts. Even this advanced armor often couldn't always save its wearer from direct blaster shots. However, it was possible for a trooper to survive direct hits, and after a quick bath in bacta, he was ready for service again.
Slugthrowers were projectile weapon that fired solid projectiles enveloped in energy (known as slugs), as opposed to the energy bolts of a blaster. Slugthrowers were used by the Tusken Raiders of Tatooine. Fun Fact - These were surprisingly useful against lightsabers, as when a slug made contact with a blade, it simply melted instead of being deflected like a blaster bolt. These melted embers could then fly toward the face or hands of the lightsaber user.
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Evil Paragon 2 a .50 cal armor piercing would rip right through the armor though. It'll disperse the shock throughout the entire body but the slug will still go through and fuck up the stormtrooper. Also if it does stop it, the shock from a .50 will kill you even if the shock is dispersed throughout the body. A 50 cal hits with 12000-15000ft/lbs of energy. No one, wearing any sort of armor can survive that.
eh boron carbide might argue that "no one can survive a hit like that" since its designed to break apart the round itself and force its surface area to increase drastically relative to its volume. Seeing a 7.62 round leave no impact on non hardened clay after it hit the plate is quite surprising to say the least. AP rounds though were designed to rip through armor so yeah its going to go through, granted if you have that kind of firepower on hand then its probably not for the regular troops. Thing about weapons and armor is practicality and just because its more powerful doesn't mean its more useful. Compare the HVAP of the 76mm Sherman to the 17lb Sabot used by the Sherman Firefly and you see despite the fact the sabot has insanely high penetration, the fact it cant reliably hit the target made it not as useful as the HVAP round which could still pen the 4 in of armor the tiger had reliably at 500 yards. There is compromise to everything, as a barret 50 isnt exactly light to use.
Duncecap64 well the smaller lighter barret m107a3 is quite wieldy, check Miculek shooting one at pretty much full auto speeds. You could also set yourself up far away with a 50cal Gatling gun (gau19) and lay waste to an entire army of stormtroopers. And bullets go way faster than the blaster shots.
Plastoid armor does exactly as Kyle stated. Even though most stormtroopers in the films look like they're dead upon hit, the force of the blast knocks them out, and in the (canon) EU it states that stormies survive around 70%-80%of hits from plasma weapons
We see them yell and fall but not die, I am sure that there are Imperial M.A.S.H units ;)
Also, you can see in stormtrooper helmets, but only if you the owner/user of it. in other words, if you use the helmet every day/you are the owner of it, the armor activates it's targeting system(it exists). Disclaimer : this is legends not canon info
the recent canon book twilight company re-confirms most of that information and talks about a few of the armors other features and its psychological effects on the wearer
Ne0spartan we see them go down, we don't see what happened next. Could be they have Imperial MASH units, or there are millions of troopers, and the ones that get killed are replaced, and killed and replaced ad nauseum.
Ethan he literally said "Well we know its maid out of a thin layer of plastic stuff" . NOT PLASTOID
The armor does protect them, it just is designed to be cheap enough to protect them but knock them out
Light saber="Laser Sword"=Plasma
Blaster="Plasma gun"=Laser
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Activate Halo the novels confirmed that lightsabers are plasma.
Caleb Brazeau I know
Activate Halo so what's the problem?
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I think there is also another explanaition. When a modern soldier in an armor vest is hit - he is usually incapacitated at least temporarily by the hit even if a bullet is stopped. Modern armor is the same compromise, especially regarding weight and mobility. Its designed more to prevent letal injuries than to make a soldier a dreadnought collecting bullets and still killing enemies. Are we sure all those stormtroopers are really dead? We might jus see most of them in the next battle after a week in a hospital.
This used to be Canon in star wars legends
In clone wars one I saw this storm trooper be shot he was down but was still moving around the ground and the jedo just ran off
I have this same theory, yes the troopers go down, BUT are they dead? We couldn’t conceive of this in our modern military, all soldiers are valuable on some level, but in the Empire where Stormtroopers are considered elite soldiers and at the same time expendable in comparison to their mission. We see plenty of troopers go down with the other Troopers not even batting an eye because they’re trained to be focused only on the task at hand. But I do remember in A New Hope after the opening battle when Vader boards the ship, one trooper cradling another that had been shot, maybe implying that the trooper was still alive at the time, just incapacitated.
In the Clone Wars series one of the main clone captains gets shot by a sniper and it put him on his ass. Didn't kill him but he had to take a few days to recover.
You couldn't really tell because there seems to be absolutely no indication of the identity of the soldier, or even their rank (only officers wear rank insignia in SW). In a 'real' military, there are different grades of privates and corporals and whatnot and they are all identifiable by rank insignia on their uniforms, while the Star Wars Imperial military doesn't display this. This makes the soldiers even more replaceable, and also makes it more difficult for the opponents to tell the true size of the imperial forces
I think in the expanded universe, they confirm that most of the storm-troopers we see get shot in the films do actually survive, thanks to their armor, but are incapacitated, and in need of medical assistance.
Those stormtroopers who fought Ewoks, though, are 100% dead.
Yeah, I think most hardcore star wars fans ignore that part of the film... As well as the prequels and the changes in the re-releases of the original trilogy.
And eaten,don't forget that those stormtroopers have most likely been eaten...
Ewok food. Doesn't matter if they survived the damage, the ewoks killed and ate them anyway.
Fakenit66 I was about to comment this, thank you
When you consider the cost of having to recruit and train new soldiers to replace the ones that get killed thanks to their cheap, shitty armor, wouldn't it be vastly cheaper in the long run to just give them good armor? The cheap armor would also adversely affect morale, thus reducing combat effectiveness and resulting in even more deaths and possibly even causing the loss of battles, meaning you lose valuable territory and resources. And when people see how poorly equipped your troops are and how high their mortality rate is, that's going to make it increasingly difficult to recruit replacements, which would require you to spend even more money on more propaganda and recruitment offices.
it does not kill them, they just pass out from the shot being safely dispersed throughout their entire body, they just put them in a bacta tank for 1 minute and there good.
Damn. My dude just wrote more words than I did in my English Exam.
@@canada9169 2 years late but it’s a common misconception that a shot kills them. It actually disperses the energy across their entire body, which overwhelms the nervous system and knocks them out. That’s why the first time we see them, the troopers are checking their comrade’s bodies to see if they’re still alive. Also, going back to the Tarkin doctrine, overwhelming uniform force makes the Empire seem unending
My bad @Red vs Blue, I was responding to the original commenter
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Armour that incaps you from a single hit is worse than no armour at all. Now the enemy has prisoners and can just doubletap or headcheck your guys.
AMAZING!
You might as well axe the limb armour and cover the chest and forearms with thicker plates. Now they might stay in the fight and cost the same.
It has been confirmed in legends that when Stormtroopers get shot the armour makes the blast spread out and simply incapacitates the trooper instead of killing them, the trooper will survive and regain consciousness in a few hours
As long as its a glancing shot. A direct hit will lessen your chances of surviving.
I believe that is also cannon.
Idiocy Incorporated it is
This is actually pretty close to what happens to armored earth soldiers. They get knocked on their rears after getting hit in the armor.
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I mean, even after the first Death Star was destroyed, the empire had essentially infinite resources.
Still only have a limited number of slaves to produce what you need.
Especially with the Rebellion rising up.
Additionally, it would still go with the cheap option. Even if you are rich, you still want to save money.
This is the same empire that does not give tie fighters shield generators.
Even before.
Acess to effectivly an entire galaxy means effectivly infinite resources.
The hard part is how to get those resources without destroying hubdres or millions of planetary economies.
And as totalitarian as the emperor may have been and how little he cared about the people of the galaxy, he didnt want to destroy his empiere's economy.
They wear armor, or at least helmets, so that they can be reused as other characters in other scenes. So in one scene, they can play a storm trooper, and then another scene. They can be an imperial officer or a rebel soldier.
*As a professional Star Wars nerd I am screaming at the inaccuracies some people are making the comments here.*
How much does one get paid as a professional Star Wars nerd? I couldn’t find the job description on Glassdoor 😸
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Ok the stormtrooper armor does protect them it has been proven by a real star wars professional
Not only you luke... there is another.
The armour should scare the Citizens as well.
And they should show that the empire is monotonous and dark too.
If I rember correctly, I read in a book deemed canon by George Lucas (back when Lucasarts was still a thing) that stormtrooper armor is actually out of date and is made with inferior materials to what they have. It is made of a Mk 2 material, while they use a Mk 3 version in some parts of Tie Fighters, and a Mk 4 version in AT-ATs. I may be wrong, however, so please let me know if that is the case.
The armor is resistant to medium strength blasters, but the rebels usually use heavy very strong weapons that can one-hit the storm troopers. It is actually quite heavy and effective, but also cheap. It works by dispersing blaster fire across the body instead of stopping it. Also adding to the fact that many of the storm troopers are actually unconscious instead of dead, which is why in some of the movies you see them ‘come back from the dead.’
“Because I said so”
Says every parent ever
because I *am the senate*
In LORE some of the troopers being shot are actually falling due to shock from the gunfire.
Samurai Scunt we see that in ANH sucks for the ones luke shot into the shaft.
The thing i don't get is how effective stormtrooper armour was at deflecting projectile wepons
Derf565 ewok arrows went in.
Edward Becerra arrows will penetrate modern armour.
Edward Becerra also, the arrows penetrated between the plastoid plates.
The blaster bolts are plasma, held together by a magnetic field
And the stormtroopers fall because they pass out from the pain of the impact of the shot
I think
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You can't be held together by a magnetic field when there is no magnet in your center. The plasma would be a magnetic material, which would be insanely heated to make it a plasma. It would be like super heating neodymium or ferrite, which also makes it lose magnetivity.
@General Grievous, it’s Star Wars. Tie fighters shouldn’t be able to fly in atmosphere, and there is no way short of a magical space crystal to power a lightsaber as there depicted in the movies, besides I didn’t make this up that’s how it’s explained in the comics
@@creberuswang766 in rogue one a storm trooper was getting shot many times and u can still hear him screaming
Eddy G, what’s your point?
Before watching : *Because having a lot of people wear the same suit, instills fear*
Right?
Qufox yes and if you can't see their face than they can't show fear or pain
Somewhat, it's like the warriors called the "immortals" in Persian army, if one falls down then another takes it place. A constant stream of a group of people who only want one thing - you out of the picture. I think That would be quite intimidating and mentally exhausting.
The armour was designed with the fear factor in mind, yes, but having everyone wear the same stuff doesn't instill fear. I mean, look at Phase 1 clone troopers. Do they look scary?
There's a difference between 'scary' and 'intimidating'. 'Scary' is entirely subjective and is to instil fear, which could trigger fight instincts where the target will make it a point to take down as many as they can as fast as they can and give others a chance to get away. 'Intimidating' is less subjective and is to demoralise, which is more likely to result in the target throwing down their weapon and surrendering.
The German Mason -- yes but looking at history, the KKK does the same thing they were those white wizard suits (lol) to try and instill fear
"Name a more imposing bad guy soldier"
Warhammer 40k is calling and wants its war crimes back.
Chaos Marines popped into my head right as he said that lol
*Angry Terminator noises*
Exactly this!
Warriors of Chaos from wh fanstasy also qualify.
My very first thought.
In legends the armor made it so that Stormtroopers would be knocked unconscious instead of killed by a direct blaster hit.
Not sure if this applies in Canon.
Disney hasn't thought that far ahead.
Well legends in now considered not cannon despite the fact this strong trooper fainting thing wouldn't really affect the Disney sequel stories
@@evanremillard5640 neither did the originals your point?
You see this in rebels, look closely at the stormtroopers after they’ve been shot.
@@samueltheskywing7358 nope, only ones we see shot and get up were shot by Ezra, who only stuns
Kyle: Stormtroopers wear plastic armour to protect them
Movie Directors: They actually wear that becuz of low budget but ya we'll take da credit
Also from a "behind the scenes" stand point, it's practical and cheaper to use the same handful actors wearing the same, faceless armor. A storm trooper killed in one scene, can be used again in another and everyone is none the wiser. 🤓
They are all clones anyway
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"Oh, and please be so kind to ignore the new moon-sized object in your planets orbit, that's just a coincidence."
@@michaeldmingo9454 Imperial Stormtroopers aren't clones, though.
@@gianni.sacciloto the early ones where. There was a handful on the 1st death star when Luke was on it
In rogue one. The trooper used as a human shield was alive the whole time he was being shot at.
That was such a cool part, I wish this happend more often. (Deflecting shots)
My idea on blaster is they are concussive weapons and not designed to pierce. Because lets face, it weapons that can cut and tear through things on space ships is a bad idea for space infantry warfare. But a weapon that hits a target then almost instantly transfers all it's energy into a single shock, is safer in space ships and stations. Thus when a bolt hits someone it is like getting hit with a sledge hammer, thus bones break and organs bruise or rupture. But if it strikes a hull plate or something, it is less likely to create a hull breach. This kinda explains why the armor takes light damage to it but the people go down so hard. Because those people getting hit, are having an entire section of their body is getting smashed from the extreme shock. And remember skin is good at holding things together under such conditions, they aren't exploding into a bloody mess either. Which would happen if a large amount of heat energy pierced into the body and well vaporized part of it.
Which is kinda what we've seen happen to unarmoured people in starwars, they get thrown back with force and sometimes roasted to a crisp depending on the weapon.
So what you are saying is a blaster do damage by force and not by Peirceing and do to the way storm trooper armour is constructed it displaces the shock causing the storm trooper to be knocked out
In a sense yes, or it causes such a shock that enough damage to bones or organs is done to render them out of action.
John J cool
Also, Ordinary Bullet rising guns exist in star wars, and these cannot penetrate the armour
In the clone wars they survived many times from blasters
I think clone wear better armor then the stromtrooper...
Indeed, it is another kind of armor
Rex says storm trooper armor is crap and clone trooper armor is way better
Dont forget battle front
Agree w/ Alejandro here. Just cuz they all fall down doesn’t mean they all die. Just that guy who fell down the shaft...
Getting hit w/ a bullet in our modern armor hurts like hell too. I’d fall down and cry for mommy for a few seconds too
The armor really only needs to be thick enough to protect a blaster bolt once, because the bolt needs to hit the same place to harm the trooper
"Name a more imposing bad guy soldier".. a space marine
Chaos Space Marines
general kalani of the cis military
Kregers.
A Cadian
I say warp demons any one and if we are talking humans then a silent one or sister of battle noooo wait the ones who guard the emporer of man... Bless his holyness
The armor stops the blast from killing the trooper. It just 'spreads' the blast so that they just get wounded/knocked out. You can see some of the troops slightly moving in different instances in the series and movies
That's most likely because of poor acting more than anything else.
In a clip showed in this video where Luke shoots a stormtrooper he hits him in the shoulder and the stormtrooper still reacts like dying and falls off.
Hatesh Warkio Because the force of the blaster is spread over as much as the armour as possible, and knocks the trooper out. It's kinda hard to stay upright when you lose consciousness.
*Nathan Mason*
Then the armor is completely useless.
We've seen people getting hit with a blaster and not getting knocked out by it.
Even getting hit by several blasters into an armor and not getting knocked out by it.
Hatesh Warkio Nah not really, personally I can't think of a time in the OT that happens, but you could chalk that up to the rebellion not using standardised blasters, some being more powerful than others. The only consistant blaster they seem to have though is Solo's DL-44, punching through most armours and even the occupants.
*Nathan Mason*
Isn't there Han Solo shot into the arm and still continuing the fight during episode V or VI?
Why does the rebellion which are basically criminals for the Empire have better blasters than the Empire?
And where did they get them?
Why isn't Stormtrooper's armor then better as protection for the most likely weapon to be used against it?
If it is because it is supposed to be cheap then isn't better for those Stormtroopers die anyway instead of being knocked out? Dead Stormtrooper means one down for your army. Knocked out Stormtrooper means one down for your army for this battle and if you lose it is a potential leak of information or even a new member of rebellion and if you win he has to be taken care of and sent to some medical wing on the ship or something which costs money too.
Why does the Stormtrooper's mask have something like upside down smiley or mustache, depends on how you view, on it?
As in real life armour, there is protection but not invulnerability. the real question is: how do blasters fire lasers slower than the speed of light? and what advantage would it bring?
To be honest: The advantage is that audiences can see it. -- KH
Nerdist and for Jedi to deflect them...
In the canon they are NOT lasers they are plasma contained in a packet of energy.
Engineer But what the hell is “a packet of energy” supposed to mean?
In Legends, blasters are plasma weapons.
Well, to be more accurate... they're particle beam weapons.
They are fueled by a gas, that is then heated up and sped up.
They aren't laser weapons.
The physical impact of even that small amount of mass hitting you that quickly, plus the temperature change, and finally the air pressure change when it impacts a surface makes it easy to conclude that the stormtroopers' armor works. It just is better at keeping them alive than to actually keep them in the fight.
This plus the fact that these troopers are hired to do this.
They aren't like the clones, so making sure they survive is more important than keeping them in the fight.
Which you prefer if you were offered a suit of armor?
80% chance to survive the shot, but you are knocked out
50% chance for you to die to the shot but you aren't knocked out if you do survive
he had explained why it would be impossible for blasters to be plasma weapons in the video, and why did you press return twice after every thought about this put down? Keeping it s 1 or 2 paragraphs would have been so much better.
Lasers behave absolutely nothing like what we see in star wars. Plasma is "basically gases", but it's a lot denser and viscous than gases, so it stays together a lot better than normal gases (well, it's obviously not a gas at all. More like a mix between a gas and a liquid). It's also electromagnetic, so electromagnetism can be used to keep a bolt together. If you look at plasma cutters the plasma doesn't just fart out in every direction like Kyle would want us to believe. It goes forward in a stream, until it cools down to a normal gas again.
Master Evar isn't the blue "bolt" of lighting just plasma being made by the electric discharge?
Yes, it is. A hot soup of nuclei and electrons. The perfect conductor to carry electrical charge between the ground and the sky.
I know Wikipedia isn't the best source for information but this is the closest thing to what I was talking about. Plasma weapons of sorts are in the works but are experimental.
"The weapon was able to produce doughnut-shaped rings of plasma and balls of lightning that exploded with devastating thermal and mechanical effects when hitting their target and produced pulse of electromagnetic radiation that could scramble electronics."
Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER
It is obvious that we can't produce anything on the scale or as refined as Starwars, but the science is heading in the direction. It has been proven that plasma can be fired out in a self-sustaining doughnut shape. If you were to tighten it up a whole lot, it would probably look a lot like a blaster bolt. It also stated that it explodes on impact which would explain the way Starwars blaster bolts seem to explode on impact.
My comment was mainly to state the more likely reason for the armor being the way it is. It seemed to be a bit far-fetched that the empire (which has lots of press to deal with) would risk using armor that didn't work most of the time. I mean, most modern military body armor for troops can block ~3-4 rifle shots. With the way Stormtroopers were dropping you'd think that they would be better off without the armor. It would make sense for them to be knocked out though as it would ensure that the wearer would be more likely to survive. Hell, even getting shot in modern days wearing a bulletproof vest can knock you out if you aren't used to the force and people seem to like them as is. Why would that change a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away?
Love your stuff, and I just wanna toss in some lore that existed (extended universe) at least before it was dismissed by Disney.
Blasters: They utilize Plasma as they suggest, keeping it liquidized via a special energy coating (kinda like force field tech they use for hanger bays and such) until contact in which it then detonates.
Storm-trooper Armour: The Armour is cheap, as you've said - But what it does is distributes the damage through the black-suit underneath, which is designed to regulate more then just environmental - But also impact/kinetic energy... The Armour isn't designed to be a solution against being attacked - But rather to ensure they'll survive with no more then a Knock Out, so that they can get strapped into new Armour afterwards and sent back into the War Effort. Survival VS Combat Activeness.
It was designed with that intent because the old Clone Trooper Armour was tough vs survivable - Clone Trooper Armour was meant to take hits so you could keep fighting but if you got hit in just the right spot, you'd be dead for sure basically.
Keep up the good shit, just hope this mayhaps explains some confusion!
Soooooo light sabers are plasma swords and blasters are laser guns? George Lucas has some explaining to do
haha
wow
According to canon, blasters are plasma and lightsabers are a loop of hot energy (also could be seen as plasma).
....Yes -- KH
Well grorge lucas im pretty sure didn't major in any type of sience and just thought it'd make sense and went with it. A plasma sword makes more sense than a plasma blaster, i mean you need extreme heat to be able to cut through a blast door so.. an oversized archwelder makes sense i guess (probably the wrong example but you get my point i hope)
Some explaining to his physics teacher
"A wookiee ate my homework!"
Dude, big flaw... Wouldn't it be more logical to assume that they have technology to keep plasma as a bolt than changing the speed of light?
Sigh.
Edit: In Star Wars canon the ammunition used for blasters is called Tibanna gas. Take that as you will.
I don't know about the new canon but in the old EU blasters had magnetic coils in their barrels that kept the blaster bolts from losing coherence as they fly out.
either way, the point is the same. Plasma has little to no mass, so what damages is the heat.
Kylo ren held one using the force. Maybe we can gather a theory from that?
+Briel Layman good point. He must be using some sort of force restrain, like he did with Rey.
I don't think plasma is quite the right term, but it's definitely not lasers. Maybe some other sort of charged particles, perhaps one we don't really know about yet.
In canon (i think) the explanation is that they dont die, they are knocked out and 15mins in a bacta tank and they are ready to fight, yet agian
That's from legends. At least that's where I know it from.
1234kalmar oh okay
+1234kalmar It's also canon
Even surviving after getting medical care would make it worth it.
KILLEKIRAHVI it's funny how you can't be certain if that thing you remember is still canon ever since disney killed the eu.
That covers the theory my wife and I came up with as well, when our daughter, now an RN, asked us when we introduced her to the OT. Based in part on flak jackets, and the armor issued when dad was in the Corps, and the armor her mom was issued, before taking her retirement in 2013.
Even took her to a company that makes modern soft, and hard armor, when we were out west.
And as someone who is here because he was wearing a level 3A vest, how kevlar works, is spot on with your example.
Well done my fellow long haired student of the applied sciences. It also works the same way with arrows or bolts, tangling the broadhead, spreading out the force over a larger area.
Saved my life against a guy holding up a gas station one night, in my early 20s. Ended up fired, not because of the vest, but because I ignored the no weapons rule, at work.
Second Chance saved my life, and allowed me, and a customer, to stop the threat.
Great video man.
the emperor is an idiot
he wasted money on a death star when he could have invincible storm troopers
IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TERRYFYING THAN A SOLDIER YOU CANNOT KILL ?
Considering war is won more by armor, artillery, air support and (in this case) orbital support than infantry and their guns, it is sensible.
I also think it's important to realize whenever we see storm troopers they fight and succeed via overwhelming numbers. As dark as it sounds the armor could be made cheaply enough to kill the trooper that is hit but strong enough to not be penetrated and kill an entire squad in one shot. Maybe it's made to tailor to their overwhelming numbers tactics and is about unit survival over individual survival. This would be in line with how storm troopers are seen in the star wars canon.
If you can find the issue, you should read the Dark Horse(?) comics story "Trooper". It was in one of their anthology Star Wars books.
Skribduex the armor usually kept the troopers alive in most fights against most publicly purchased blasters. If you look deeply enough into the lore of the weapons many of the rebels had blaster pistols much stronger than the accounted for toughness of the armor
Skribduex so it may hit them and some might die
Skribduex most however get knocked put
Skribduex out*
5:40 A certain point of view!?
Cristian Morales *POV*
*obi wan voice* yes, a certain point of view
N'yeeeaasss -- KH
Cristian Morales indeed :v
Hey i just commented that. Great minds think alike
Ork: "Dat arma won't save ya from my dakka! KRUMP DEM HUMIES, BOYZ! WAAAGH!!!"
Their armor is made of plastoid
Obi-Wan Kenobi define plastoid without using the word plastic
Repins Watson gladly Plastoid, or plasarmor, was the material used in the armor of the Galactic Republic's clone troopers, and later in the ImperialStormtrooper Corps. Plastoid tubing was often used to reinforce the walls of buildings. Some of the structures in Mos Eisley on Tatooine were made from this material.
Plastoid was also used to produce sturdy chairs and other furniture, and even non-lethal slug rounds. These plastoid rounds were known to be used by the Republic's Senate Commandos for crowd control and situations where killing was undesirable. One place where chairs manufactured of this material were found was on the Galactic Alliance ship Admiral Ackbar.
Plastoid was also used as a prosthetic material. Mirta Gev was one such user who used the material to repair her broken nose
Tldr. A very strong, versatile polymer.
it's not plastic, its a material what is famous for dispersing energy.
Obi-Wan Kenobi You didnt define it you just gave examples of its uses
I always felt that this whole "laser"-gun concept was totally unrealistic, since in the movies the bolts travelled definitely slower than lightspeed, and as you said, a reflective suit (even cheaply made) would be a dozen times more effective in preventing blaster bolt penetration (also in space battles). So why don't they all wear reflective armor, or why are spaceships not mirroring?
A, in my opinion, better explanation for this blaster bolt phenomenon would be that all blaster weapons in star wars shoot actual projectiles, maybe containing or emitting plasma, and this could also explain why Stormtroopers wear so thin armor:
As seen many times before, the Empire is more about showing power than being actually effective in weapon/ship design, so maybe the armor is only build for "smaller calibers" like handguns, since they are the most common weapons in Star Wars...
Also, in canon (in this case The Clone Wars) troopers often refer to "ammunition", which wouldn't make sense since laser guns would be powered by battery.
Batteries occasionally need to be replaced or recharged, therefore making ammunition, or battery life, an actual cause for concern.
I believe the blasters use a magnetic field to stop the plasma from expanding
The projectile could work like an AAT shell, with a metal middle and the plasma being contained around it, causing it to last longer.
@@PibbDFanta blaster bolts are superheated plasma held together by a force field. Also those aren't laser weapons because if you had a laser strong enough to dig in the armor you are looking at around 3-10 watts which will fry your eyes faster than you can blink.
I don't know where I heard this, but the armor isn't supposed to deflect or absorb the blaster shot, it is supposed to dissipate the balster shot so basically a larger non-lethal wound as opposed to a small but deep lethal one
Stormtroopers still die in droves to blasters and non-blaster weaponry so the armor is shit
But a percentage of them might be merely incapacitated but still can be patched up afterwards. That's better than 100% dead.
@Chrisrtian Dauz They don't die, they're incapacitated as Toto Wolff stated. Its similar to be tasered which is why they collapse and fall down instantly. Larger weapons found on space craft however can be lethal as it would overwhelm the dissipating action and still inflict a lethal amount of energy. Additionally, some rebels carry larger illegally modified weapons which can be lethal, but most rebels don't have access to these, only the elite tier special ops types.
Toto Wolff phasma's suit reflects the blaster shots tho
Which it idiotically didn't in Episode 7 - there Phasma was held at gun-point with the same type of weapons to which in episode 8 she apparently was immune while wearing the same suit of chrome armor.
"Name a more imposing bad guy soldier."
The Enclave power armor soldiers, from the Fallout games.
Linksbro I think of them as off brand brotherhood so they don't seem as imposing to me
Linksbro *cough* space marines *cough*
Meh, they’re just as imposing, not much more. In the Fallout universe especially, they’re not that special
Zone Troopers and Black Hand troops (Command and Conquer), Helgast (Killzone), the Locust and COG (Gears of War)...
Naw we can do better, Chaos Space Marines.
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Actually, in the Clone Wars, Caption Rex gets shot and survives. And was shot near the same area as u.
I think he didn't talk about clone wars
He says "In the films"
Clones had better armor than the storm troopers but both would still have protected the wearer
I can tell you I'd definitely take storm trooper armor over none on the Star Wars battlefield. Otherwise in a matter of seconds the radiation from missed laser shots would still be enough to knock you out if not kill you outright
Clones have better armor but heavier
Stormtroopers who get shot by blaster-fire are down but not out, Stormtrooper armor is especially effective against "slug-throwers" or ballistic weapons, which is something poor people would probably buy over a more expensive blaster weapon. Stormtrooper armor would be invaluable when taking over indigenous people (for the planets ore/minerals/resources/labor) who only have said slug-throwers in the the disorganized galaxy.
merten0083 I hope they overlook us NDNs. Or maybe we joined the Empire. If we exist there.
But the Ewoks beat the armor with rocks and clubs.
merten0083 and yet they got slaughtered by Ewoks...
Omg. Captain Phasma would’ve been so cool if they thought of that. The only stormtrooper who could survive blaster bolts.
Yup, Captain Phasma's armor is impervious to blaster bolt. That's not cheap 🤓
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Alexander Reinfield where is the invincible storm trooper division of super commandos?
Alexander Reinfield it's made from one of Palpatines naboo ships
And she got held at gunpoint by Finn in tfa
Alright, I'll play the part of the wet blanket. They have armor and masks for philosophical reasons. Simply put, because it's a lot easier to watch your heroes mow down waves of living beings if they don't have faces and they all look alike. Notice how George Lucas switched to robots as soon as CGI would allow it, in the prequels, for the same reason. Killing human looking people with personalities is what the bad guys do!
Unless they’re nazis it’s okay to kill nazis
Oslo Da Pig I was going to leave a witty comment but then I saw your name and prof pic and I just can't even 🤣
I guess that is why we have the General Hux scene in TFA when they saluted similar to the Riegh.
It works well for the image though, a large force of clean, immaculate faceless goons all fiercely loyal to the Empire
No shit genius, ya want a cookie? Everyone knows the "real" reason anything happens in fiction, because the author wanted X, the director wanted Y, the game studio wanted Z etc. etc. That's *not* the answer people are looking for when they go into deep dives into fiction like this, they want the in-universe answer.
*******Partial Spoiler for SW. Ep. 8*******
In that last snippet Kyle explained how Phasma's armor behaved in EP. 8
Miguel Valero Arcia I know this is a spoiler but continue
Actually it's becuase her armor is made out of the same metal as a starship IE she's pretty much invisible becuase she has better armor.
Also, there is a scene in rogue 1 where a stormtrooper takes a shot and it doesn’t pierce his armor
The way I always thought it is that even though we see the Stormtroopers going down after being shot, doesn't necessarily mean that they die. If you shoot someone whose wearing kevlar, they will probably go down but still survive or at least have a chance at surviving. Without armor, death is almost certain.
Him: "Name a more imposing soldier"
Me: "SS division..."
I LITERALLY thought the same exact thing.
shh, they forgot to check the basement, those losers.
Death troopers
Wait are you talking about the division or SHD
the SS stormtroopers are what the, wekk, stormtroopers, are based on.
The Phasma suit theory is confirmed by the last jedi
still not enough reason to rewatch it
She actually gets shot and it bounces off..
J C yep
Phasma. RIP. So underused. Coulda, shoulda, woulda. :(
Mateus Mota Sales yeah ikr
Going into the expanded universe a little here, but a lot of those storm troopers who are hit do not die, the armor is purposefully designed to spread out the force of the blaster bolt, and knock them unconscious. After the firefight is over medics retrieve the bodies and bring them in for medical attention. The clone troopers armor was a lot thicker as well.
exactly
good research
Correct They had a 20% chance of actually dieing
As we say in the military, "Perfect is the enemy of good enough."
I think that the stormtroopers should just take some of the rebels clothing because that seems to be completly indestructible, like c'mon Han Solo basically wore the same clothing during the entire original trilogy and it wasn't even scratched
JokeReloader
Keep in mind that the storm trooper’s misses were almost all against the A team, which included 2 force sensitive individuals who could potentially deflect blaster fire subconsciously, and a guy who was born lucky.
he was never hit...
That's called "plot armor" and only the writers can get through that.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE UR SHOW!!!! Quick question tho. How does Colossus move when his skin turns into metal? Plz do a vid about it
Yes! I’d love to see that too
Memory metal could be the simple answer. If you have never seen it, it looks like magic. There are vids on UA-cam where it’s in a coil/or plate, and they stretch it out or kink it. When they add heat it goes back to its original shape.
Otherwise, a super-strong Metal near its low-temp melting point, as his skin, should be flexible enough for Colossus to move.
Doctor Cthulhu, ok. Thank you for the answer! It helped a lot and that actually makes since.
What no surprise laser sword? Thought of you when that was in the new movie.
sheafferw I immediately thought of Kyle when Luke said that haha
It's an uphill battle for me now. They have the high ground you might say -- KH
sheafferw don't spoil T.T
Yeah me 2
You know Kyle knows we're sitting there waiting for it in every episode. So now we really will be surprised. God we're nerds.
The dark side could have won if they had just used mini guns. How is a Jedi going to stop 200 bullets per second
You're actually right, I remember reading somewhere that lightsabers cannot deflect physical bullets
Well the armor do protect them but it impact from the blast just knock them out
No. Clones get shot, but they keep on fighting (even with headshots). They either really die, or the armor is barley heavy enough to leave them mortally wounded.
bajanhunter501st Well that's new for me. Can you source the info so I can read more?
Mar Speedsman basically clone armor gives you wounds that are fatal in a couple of hours but you can keep fighting for those couple of hours, but the stormtrooper armor basically knocks you out for a couple of hours but when you wake up you can just grab a gun and fight some more
I agree. The armor is useful
Clone armor - Stop the blaster
_(Or you survive or you die in some hours...)_
Stormtrooper armor - Absorb the blaster
_(You probably survive a shot.)_
Mandalorian Armor, made of Beskar - Deflect the blaster
_(This thing keep you alive against light sabers, blasters and bullets.)_
Not to mention its semi effective against projectile weapons.
Most storm troopers get incapacitated, not killed- at least in Legends.
As for Phasma, JJ tried and failed to make the Boba Fett/Darth Maul of this trilogy.
She had a good run in 8 but was a joke in 7.
I like that you pointed that out about the armor :)
"Not to mention its semi effective against projectile weapons."
Assuming this is even true, almost no one uses, making it useless.
"As for Phasma, JJ tried and failed to make the Boba Fett/Darth Maul of this trilogy.
She had a good run in 8 but was a joke in 7."
Not sure what this has to do with this video, but both boba fett and darth maul were punks that didn't get much screentime at all. And both died in fairly hilarious, ridiculous ways. I think Phasma was pretty cool. She didn't get much screentime, and I was disappointed with her depiction in Ep 8, but don't make those other characters out to be any better. And don't bring in that non-canon legends crap that made up ridiculous excuses to bring dead characters back to life after they obviously died.
Non-canon? The clone wars show had a pretty cool Darth Maul and gave Boba some back story and that is all canon.
It didn't seem to help them at all against the pathetic bows and rocks the ewoks had...
It is also canon that that they just get knocked out
the thing is... if you are galactic empire and have power to blow up planets then in MOST of the times you do not need troopers to actually make fighting - if you wipe out enemy fleet and bombard their anti-air/anti-space defences they are defenceless and your troopers are just occupation force and not actual "storm" one.
And going back to "Ewoks case" - GE could not wipe planet as they tried to make its usefulness/purpose as hidden as possible but they deployed some troopers and AT-ST as general defence force of their hidden base. In normal circumstances (i.e. if Ewoks rebels on their own) they could always eradicate life on planet from orbit so they do not really had to care about long lasting defences.
Plus also there is that the Alliance prefers to arm it's troops with heavy blasters which can pierce all but the heaviest armor(Storm Troopers wear medium armor(Scout troopers light))
Arcane_Rogue bullshit how could they? you mean the resistance whom are heavily underfunded can afford the best guns? but the government cant? wtf? stop watching game theory/film theory he's almost always wrong
Eh, the rebellion used to be the republic, the single greatest political power in the universe. The empire is Run Like Soviet Russia, China, and North Korea. The Republic was run much more similarly to the way the U.S. is run. What happened was that the Republic was overthrown by an elected politician that was using his position to begin feuds with other governments such as the Trade Federation, etc. Specifically, he was creating unacceptable trade blockades and tarrifs on the goods produced by the trade federation(they made most of the droids and biodroid technology that the Republic imported). The blockades and tariffs got so ridiculous that a war broke out, with the Trade Federation blowing the doors off of the capital city of Naboo, a strong political hub. In the hysteria of war, he managed to basically get himself elected emperor. The people who founded the rebellion and eventually the new Republic were basically the elites of the old Republic, with nearly limitless sums of money and things, that they simply had to tuck away on distant planets and carefully manage. Also, a lot of connections run deep and after what went down, between the many other governments across the galaxy and the newly founded Empire(which basically backstabbed them all) it's pretty easy to call in favors or at the very least get access to purchase high end weaponry. It is important to note that x-wings were built with cutting edge technology at the time they were being used by the Rebellion, and that while they couldn't outrun Tie Fighters in a straight sprint, they were typically more agile, had better on-board communications and strategic instruments. No, the rebellion was not poor, they were however growing tired, and their numbers were dwindling down. As far as access to good weapons, spacecraft, etc. They were good to go. Anyone in the universe with the guts to do so, was backing them 100%.
Capn Smashem empire can afford the most powerful blasters period they made a death star they're more than Soviet russia
he was talking about how it was ran not about how powerful they were
Capn Smashem What are you talking about? Empire was a Republic
I remember hearing somewhere that the stormtrooper armor is designed so that when they get hit they get knocked out and can later wake up to fight another day
Mistakes:
1. blasters form a bolt so they can't shoot lasers, which form a ray.
2. unlike most pepole think stormtroopers DO NOT die in most situations thay are stunned, except they are hit by armor piercing blaster from short range, or getting blown by a thermal detonator...
Also a laser just as all other forms of light wouldn't be visible from the sides.
"unlike most pepole think stormtroopers DO NOT die in most situations thay are stunned"
Bullshit.
Malamockq why? Read wookiepedia...
While olodemolo MCAroom is correct that most troopers are essentially put into a "down but not out" state when hit there is the thing that most hits we see in the movies are made with heavy blasters which can pierce most armor so most of the troopers we see get hit probably do die.
"Read wookiepedia..."
That's non-canon legends bullshit. I only care about what's in the actual movies, and when a guy is hit in the chest and goes down, it stands to reason that the dude is dead.
"While olodemolo MCAroom is correct that most troopers are essentially put into a "down but not out" state when hit"
I don't buy it, despite what legends would have you believe.
They don't die
They only get stuned
anakin starkiller Depends how you set your phasers.
Yeah, he said that in the video..
Kratos510e what time
username I know that blasters can change to stun mode where the shots are big rings
but on kill mode the stormtroopers rarely get killed
anakin starkiller 7:40
Star Wars blasters ARE plasma weapons, the shots are wrapped in EM fields that prevent them from dispersing immediately.
Also, it's explained in the expanded Star Wars material (canon, and legends) that Storm Trooper armor is in fact sufficient to allow them to survive blaster fire, it just usually knocks them out, or at least injures them so they are temporarily taken out of the fight. But except for Wilhelm, who fell to his death, most of the Storm Troopers injured by hand weapons in the movies actually didn't die of their injuries.
This is about the Science of how it would work, and he explained quite well how being plasma bolt wouldn’t . No matter what a Sci-fi writer wants to say.
Unless our have a scientific explanation, for how the magnetic field holding the plasma wouldn’t almost instantly collapse, once it loses its power source?
Maybe because this exact explanation is actually scientific fact. We've created EM fields that allow plasma to hold together and be projected out moderate distances. So it's ALOT more scientifically sound to extrapolate that out to a more efficient version that allows blaster bolts to travel even further, than it is to suggest that blasters somehow slow down light to accomplish their damage in a way that is completely counter to what we're shown and told in the Star Wars universe. In short, Kyle is actually ignoring both canon fiction and science here in favor of a made-up fantasy explanation for some reason I personally can't fathom. If he's willing to accept that plasma containment technology in the Star Wars galaxy is sufficient to create light sabers, then it is MORE than sufficient to create blasters.
Khodexus successfully holding plasma in a continuously powered field, like in a lightsaber, is a easy leap to make.
Trying to explain how plasma can be held together, at super-high pressures basically indefinitely, after leaving the powered magnetic field, would go against everything this series is about.
There is just no plausible scientific explanation how plasma would be able to stay that way, without invoking “well the author wrote it that way”. Unless the claim is the guns are projecting a powerful magnetic field the entire way to the target.
This series is about finding a (relatively)plausible explanation for sci-fi and sometimes the answer is: “The writer didn’t know what they were talking about, and this might be a way to make them plausible.” It doesn’t change anything outside of that. You can still believe they work which ever way you want.
My issue is that he ignores plausible science that closely matches what we're shown and told, in favor of creating a completely different 'fiction' for no justifiable reason. He does it all the time, in fact. I don't know if it's because his knowledge of real world science is sometimes insufficient to the topic he's chosen, or if he's being lazy in his research, or what. But I will continue to call him out on his mistakes, oversights, and errors.
Because science.
Copy of my reply
Plasma is charged particles. A magnetic field can manipulate charges. When you apply a perpendicular magnetic field the charge changes path. If the field is strong enough and costant, upon entering it a charge would begin moving in a circular loop in the plane perpendicular to the field lines. It will keep it's momentum in the other directions.
So a simple magnetic field would be applied in front the user, then the gun accelerates the plasma and shoot it. Then any change of motion the plasma has initially or becouse of other sort of resistance that would disperse the plasma will be converted in circular motion, overall you will have an helical trajectory that stays more or less on a straight line, that gets wider the longer is the distance. (Ps after thinking about it, becouse of the pressure of plasma, the bolt would expand and increase in lenght, but slowly, wich is kinda what we see, becouse any expansion in any perpendicular direction would make the every particle initially spin around the center and then fall back into the center, resisting the expansion force, while the effect would be less effective the more the direction gets close to the parallel one)
If the plasma is hot enough and if the atmosphere doesn't make much resistance it should work at medium ranges. But this means that the plasma is really hot, and radiates heat. The armor would be white becouse it protects users reflecting the radiated heat that would flash you in the eyes and burn a bit your skin. Rebels just have to stand this heat.
Shielding those projectiles would not be op either becouse you'll need a magnetic field perpendicular to where the shots are coming form, so you'll need a machine placed further than your soldiers and on the side, basically like a vulnerable moving trench that forces the plasma to hit the ground or go up in the sky, probably both if positive and negative charges are both present
'Remember Lucius Fox' quote from Batman Begins:
"Bean counters didn't think a soldier's life was worth 300 Grand"!
more imposing soldier? Literally anything from warhammer 40000.
Meh
Don't all plasma weapons in Sci Fi have a magnetic field that keeps the gas together and hot?
Plasma by definition is electrically charged and carries a magnetic field. Thats why plasma != gas. Thats why solar flares don't just dissipate all around like a fart. It acts like a fluid. This guy on youtube didn't learn science.
Ian Mak Just look at Covenant weapons.
That is correct - plasma is a complex fluid. A simple, stable form that keeps plasma together is a simple current loop. The Lorentz force keeps the plasma from dissipating. Another way to think about it would be the Z-pinch effect, but in a circle.
Jaygon! Yeah they explain it a lot better in the Halo novels
In star wars, the gas is actually turned into a solid chunk of energy and shot by magnetism. (Very short explanation.) A few guys in to comments have explained it in much greater detail if you can find them.
Kyle, Rogue One has a scene where a Stormtrooper takes several direct close range shots from another Stormtroopers blaster and it looked like he might have survived
first order has been improved from imperial armor, a higher priority on their troopers survival dictated that.
Sean Rea Rogue One happens just before A New Hope. The New Order was established after Ep 6. What?
When stormtroopers usually get hit the stormtroopers armor absorbs the blast but the impact would knock them out
What about the ewoks... they beat storm troopers with ROCKS!
Raymond Wiggins That was blunt force trauma to the skull.
Psycho Thoughts so that the amour is even useless against rocks...
Did the empire forget about physical threats?
At least phasma died from falling and from an electrified stick.
Yea well, no armour is going to protect you against someone throwing a rock at your head from 50ft up :P
So to save money, the emperor wasted money on totally useless armors...
Furebel simply told... Yeah.
But nobody ever claimed he was smart...
Furebel and the soldiers feel more safe... Tho they aren't.
Except its not "totally useless", its just not perfect protection...
Another thing to think about we don't always know they die from the blasts, very hurt and dead are very different.
Furebel but they have money to keep making clones...idk
Following the Clone Wars, The Emperor didn't care as much about the quality of the soldiers and suits that were used during the Clone Wars and replaced the Clones with regular human recruits. The emperor didn't feel as much of a need to get higher trooper quality and preferred large, intimidating numbers which explains why the Clone soldiers and armor was a lot better. This is why Rex, a Clone veteran states that the Clone armor is a lot better than the Stormtrooper armor.
captainjoshua125 Did you get this from Rebels?
shadowstarthe1st maybe, but just cause a product is better doesn't mean it has more quality. You can have a very high quality horse and cariage, but the crappiest car that works is better. That means that while the reference model may be superior, the fact there was hardly any QA means Rex's complaint was spot on. Granted, even if he did come across a well done set, his heavy bias would still kick in
No, clones have survived blaster shots in combat while stormtroopers get taken out with just one shot.
captainjoshua125 that is true if; if I can recall, Rex took a shot to the head in Rebels and just got up and running,and it's an old helmet too
+shadowstarthe1st sorry to burst your bubble but clone armour was actually wayyyy better than storm armour but it was still good at protecting the person inside
3:30 thats why we have Minovsky Particular to shield the plasma in shape when shooting out in Gundam , thanks Dr Minovsky
Stormtroopers survive blaster shots they just get knocked out
In real life, there are many soldiers knocked in a battle with concussion injuries are the ones who wear level 3 plate in their vest.
Mr. Fister what about slip?
This is what I was thinking watching this video. When cops wearing armour are shot the protocol is to immediately check their vests for a bullet catch, which will look like a coin from splatting flat against it. The force is like a bowling ball smashing your chest can knock officers down, unconscious or keel over in extreme pain, but after medical attention is very survivable.
They got killed by rocks too. Thrown by teddie-bears.
Enough with the "oh this actually makes sense" bullshit.
Just Someone they didn’t die from rocks they got knocked out
Please do a video of why they miss every shot xD
Captain Rex says in rebels that he can’t see a thing in the helmets
That happens in every action movie. Bad guys miss because good guys have plot armor
He explained it in this video. He stated he couldn't see a thing in that helmet when he walked into that animated bulk head.
easy, the force (the power of the plot)
Have you seen how slow those blasts travel? They're way slower than bullets. They're like, Nerf gun speed at best
I remember Reading a comic Where they said it doesn’t kill them it knocks them out so it is much cheaper to put a trooper in a bacta tank if they get hit then give them really expensive armor
correct it is in legends and canon
Option 3 wear reflective armor that spreads light like a concave lens i guess
“Im here to science you” does not sound good
Oh god that sounds so wrong XD
Well, “Im here to science you” does sound like you're about to get your mind fucked, which isn't necessarily "not good". :-)
The real question is why do their blasters have sights when they couldn't hit the wall of a barn while inside said barn
It's not like they use the sights a lot anyway ...
Its because every main character is protected by plot
@@ladyimgay1138 Literally so during the death star escape, the only instance where Imps kill nobody.
Getting hit with a “what-he-said?” and a manhole cover...:)) i can’t make that out no matter how many times i replay that bit. Is that a hair-dryer?
The real reason: so we can identify them as stormtroopers. It's just a costume for the sake of the movie.
I would choose not to build a space house in the first place
Also remember a miniature explosion is happening... so they are probably gonna fall down.. like you see in the film a lot. I imagine most survive but are in pretty bad shape.
More intimidating soldier: Predator, Dalek, Borg, the Roman Legions. (Not in order)
Hi Kyle,
The blaster as a DEW is a plasma weapon that conceivably uses laser energy to excite what is known in the SW universe as Tibanna gas into an energetic plasma. The plasma exits the barrel of the blaster, enveloped in a short-lived EM containment field that’s maintained by some of the energy contained in the plasma.
Most every blaster has two different, depletable ammunition magazines that together create each energy bolt fired from the blaster. One of these “magazines” is a power supply characterized as having a significant energy density that energizes the plasma, creates the initial containment field and allows for the compression of the plasma into a smaller volume making for a more energetic round.
The other “magazine” is a Tibanna gas cartridge that makes for the physical element of the blaster bolt.
This description is pretty much the inner workings of how a blaster operates according to canon sources. The persistent EM containment is a matter of technology unknown to our early 21st century tech.
Otherwise, the blaster bolt’s behavior is co-consistent with the observed effects and behaviors of the laser explanation posited by you.
3:05 Perhaps they use a similar method to the lightsabers, which are actually in-universe, just plasma blades. The plasma is kept in place via a magnetic field, the same way a Halo sword works.
I originally thought the same thing, but the question remains, how does the magnetic field remain stable or present, once it has left the blaster? I would think that the plasma energy would also have to be encapsulated around some energy cell which continuously creates a magnetic field, but this is speculation.
@@Technotranceism Fair enough. I guess for now, until the technology is actually made, we can just say "future science magic", lol.
It is definitely defined as some form of particle projection, it's just what kind of particles, and how exactly it is projected as a bolt that remains a mystery.
They could use some kind of micro bullets that exist in the magazine, these would create small magnetic fields that would keep the plasma together and would be the thing that is propelled forward.
The real cause stormtroopers die in 1 hit from a rock thrown from an Ewok is because of story progression
Name a more imposing bad guy soldier? *cough* chaos space marines *cough*
John smith even without thinking about the WH40K universe (wich is badass) even in "softer" franchises like mass effect, cerberus' s basic assault troopers looks more badass than stormtroopers
i don't think those guys are the rank and file troops, they're more like spec ops.
bonus points if they are angry marines.
@@dylanharshman712 angry marines are loyalists
They do survive, probably, they just go unconscious.
What do you want for Christmas this year Kyle?
I finally bought myself a Switch. -- KH
That didn't necessarily answer my question,but cool. What game(s) are you gonna play first?
I always ask people"what did you get me for your birthday"
Nerdist I bet you are taking in that breath of the wild ;) ;)
Thumbs up. For the name and the picture.
pritty sure he just admitted to being the emporer.
BLeeeeEeEEeeEeEEhhhhhhhhh
I could see the armor being useful against civilians who try to rebel. Like a bat or maybe even some slightly sharper objects like axes
For anyone wondering; the armour needs to be imposing rather than effective because at that point in the empire's existence they were more of a peacekeeping force than a true military. They were already in power and most of their use came in the form of terrifying small rebellions from trying to rise up against the military might of the empire. They weren't prepared for a legitimate organized rebel alliance.
Assumption: Stormtroopers who are incapacitated are killed or even severely injured.
Assumption: The plasma is uncontained when it exits the barrel. I believe lightsabers, bolts, and all SW energy weapons and tools supposedly use EMF containment to prevent this rapid dissipation. How the field is maintained in transit, I have no idea....
Assumption: Glancing and direct hits have differing effects.... That is all.
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I mean ok regardless what the blaster bolts are they would all have similar effects even if they "struck" in someone's very near vicinity, never mind hit them directly. But it would still likely not be lethal to an armored target (even some of our armor).
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And also, if it is anything contained by an EMF, it would likely have a relatively short maximum range, but wouldn't lose much effectiveness over that range, unlike traditional "impact-based" weapons. Virtually no "bullet" drop or environmental influence, either, except other strong EMFs, which is presumably what shielding is primarily in the SW universe, which explains why star destroyers have 2 spaced spheres as the source of their shields and why torpedoes and ships can pass through them.
Also, if both Blasters and Lightsabers use electromagnetically contained plasma, it would explain why blaster bolts reflect off of lightsabers. The fields interact with each other.
Which makes me think that there could be a situation where a Jedi tries to block a slugthrower shot with his lightsaber and gets shot in the face anyway. (I did the calculation. Even if the lightsaber had 5000°C, the bullet would heat up by a mere fraction of a degree while passing through it.)