I spent 10 hours learning The Varangian Guard in For Honor to prove she needs a buff
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Question, should I buy her or BP? I like them both but can't decide. This video helped but since you don't have a BP video like this I have nothing to compare her to.
The 50/50 hero where no matter what you eat a heavy
Not true you can just react to the parry flash Indicator :/ that's where she falls flat
@@Commanderneptune0every character fails when you react to the flash.
@@FeedMeChaos1 no really warden doesn't fail Shalin doesn't fail nux doesn't fail so on so forth
@@Commanderneptune0 nux loses to emotes
@@FeedMeChaos1 that's been patched out for a few years
She is a type of hero that minor changes could spiral her into being overperforming. Happened with a lot of heroes in the past with reworks
I didn't say in the video but I would trade some of her light attack properties in the process. I don't think she needs CC's and enhanced lights
@@precursoryt i personally feel that she needs a follow up to feints rather than going back into the light spam
I think it’s just stupid that she has priority on her crushing counter dodge attacks. Shinobi undodgeable mixup doesn’t even work because she counters it, same with Valkyrie mixup. I know you could just feint to parry but it’s so dumb that she’s the only character that invalidates both of those punishes
Yeah I'm not sure who's idea that one was
You complaining that the character counters two of the easier characters to play Imo
easier to play? what? easiest to play is bp, alfeera, the pirate, raider even, but valk and shinobi got nothing, shinobi has a lot more than valk and still plays like warden@@trevorhume7107; the chinese kensei clone unblockable spammer is the easiest in the game
Completely agree
Tiandi
Good video mate, really great explanation for the hero and you did a great job a explaining whats missing 👍
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🫡
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Your videos are thoroughly entertaining!
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The edit is fantastic great vid 😮
Finally some good content
great editing. seriously well made video
i like ur choice of music throughout the video
6:06 they saving those move abilities for Spartan outlander lol
Imagine
@@precursoryt can you be my friend?
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love the vinland saga lmao something of note, she has crushing counters on the chain lights and her dodge attack. the dodge attack can be giga brained and option select some undodgable mix ups (like against shinobi flip to undodgable)
I just feel For Honor devs should give some heroes the ability to dodge forwards to cancel attack recoveries, not the ability to dodge anything crazy but it allows a small change that could be good for someone like the Varangian I think, or I also think Jormungandr and Centurion would have at least something different too that I personally feel they're missing
I 100% agree with you and went through the same thing with her I want to love her I even did the training to see if I can find something unique. She's not my favorite hero but I'm still gonna keep playing her.
4:20 any other WarFrame fans recognize it?
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@@robotic-race it’s the Sacrifice theme for Umbra
3:50 you got that sweet plot armor that lets you light the air and somehow hit your target
I have unparalleled skill tempered with weaponised incompetence
playing her a bit and she feels like she doesnt really have a follow up to fainting like i feel like a headbutt or shield bash type hit like how cent is might work well as a extra option
“Needs a buff” is crazy
Took you long enough to make a video I was beginning to think you were dead.
Only in death does for honor end
I've had a ton of fun playing her, then again I enjoy playing characters with simple but effective movesets. I do agree I rarely do anything else other then unblockable out of all guard because of the buffs she gives everyone in 4v4. However I'm surprised you mentioned you light with her a lot due to the fact if I were to try I'd get light parried easily so I often use heavy or bash to start fights
I’m probably just in spud tier lobbies ngl
I do like the way she plays, especially in 4s, but I do agree she needs something in her chain to make her offense more interesting. I wouldn't be opposed to a middle chain attack to give her some variety. My idea is make her second attack be either a light without cc but still enhanced, which leads to her normal finisher, or a heavy with small hitbox but hyper armor which leads to her finisher, or you can charge the second heavy and it's her normal finisher unblockable but where it can be light interrupted on read like Cent's unblockable. It's an idea that I have no idea how to balance but sounds cool in my head.
Somekind of hyper armour would make sense with her being a heby
"We have BP at home"
I think the only change i would make for varangian is maker her have a bash to be used in combo and maintain her chain attack, but keeping her heavy as a finisher and combo end
And maybe give her hyper armor ONLY when she performs a superior block, just to avoid getting your punisher broken by some random coming up and attack you instantly cancelling your punishment (it might not be common, but when it happen, oh brother It's painful)
I spent 10 hours learning virgin guard
It took me three minutes and then I just played her for 10 hours
Lmao
I just unlocked varangian guard yesterday and I was very underwhelmed with her moveset. I played with her in 2v2 for like 4 hours. I was so excited to get another shield heavy class hero who's focus was on defense. that's why I decided to do what you did and look to see if there's something I'm missing. from my limited experience with varangian guard needs more offensive chains she can do. it was very hard to keep my opponents guessing. and I think she would benefit if her full block stance wasn't temporary. how can you call her a defensive hero when other heavies such as Black Prior and Conqueror are much stronger at defense.
Can't argue with someone who spent 10 hours on the hero.
I don't think anyone has ever spent that much time on anything ever.
I think she needs another chain option besides light into heavy. She feels like a year 1 hero with a new look. Granted I literally just got her yesterday and played kinda bad becuase it feels so weird playing such a basic ass kit. Even BP has way more options than her. But like this vid I'm determined to keep trying her. Edit: against a turtle what can she do. Her openers are too easy to read and not fast enough to fight a good player that's turtling in a 1v1
i just like women that scream at me in a mix between old nordic and byzatine greek
She’s fine as is she’s just more defensive focused she’s a solid B, B+ hero and that’s okay not every hero is gonna be exceptionally strong and while her offense lacks her defense is incredibly potent.
She's S in 4s she is meta changing/defining but she is a mid duelist
@danieldryden718 this game is too unblockable focused for her to be anything special. All the best heros in 4s all have amazing unblockables. Zhanhu, jj, raider, lb, BP, shugo. Only top pick she does well against is shinobi and medjay
@@soulbender1987 very very untrue, her unblockable mixup is one of the absolute strongest in the game hithoxes are massive you can put a big delay on the heavy it can be soft feinted into full block and guardbreak if it's dodge attacked you can recovery cancel into full block and punish that, her crushing counters are the unquestionable best in the game, she has one of the undeniably best unblockables in the game, she can UB out of the full guard punish that has huge hithoxes and will hit lots of people in team fights, no one wants to be the first to attack Varangian Guard just because of her insane fullblock that is a very very heavy punish, she is absolutely undeniably meta defining no two ways about it and to say otherwise in her current state is just plain and objectively incorrect
@@soulbender1987 another note is medhay in staff form has no unblockable and yet is an easy S tier LB isn't even close to S tier either
@@DMC_Motorsports she also just dies to the guard break button and external unblockables. And her unblockable is pretty good. I also wouldn't necessarily call her full guard really anything too crazy. No better than aramushas. Her bash is also trash due to it most of the time being gb punishable. Overall in teamfights she may seem safe on paper but in reality again she dies to the gb button. She's like shugoki where u can pretty much gb all his recoveries hense why he is also unsafe in team fights. Also I never said u need an unblockable to be S tier. But u do need an effective way to defend against them externally and on recoveries. Both of which she can't do
I personally like vg and got pretty good with her shes a simple but effective hero and i dont think a simple hero automatically makes them boring as plently of people like warden and hes super simple. Though with all my playtime with her she does get boring when im winning so much as i win most of my games with vg. I dont think she has anything thats crazy bs or anything thats super underwhelming like ocelotl prowler stance. All in all a decent hero who can become a menace in the right hands
So is the second light a guarantee or what because it seems to be guaranteed if the first light hits
Nah it’s just a bit jank on the animation to read
What was the game you showed for like 2 secs in the mining break? lol
Return to Moria
I got her 3 days ago and I’ve been enjoying her, maybe she’s been re worked since I’ve been playing not to sure.. just got back into for honor. Someone please lmk. Ik im late.
As long as you’re having fun, that’s what matters
I like VG but damn it feels like she falls short compared to other heros most times seems like I do better switching from one person to another do a light then do a unblockable and switch back
Two attack chain is not the one
A new hero not being OP? Thank god 🙏🙏🙏
id say its the meta that hinders her that and what i call the law bringer effect where you only have one or two Comboeses that are very predictable and relays on defense
I’d have to agree
it needs abuff
I was expecting you to make the same just bread joke but i wasnt expecting a ham and cheese. Still good but not as good as a burger (bp)
BP is a gourmet burger and Conq is a greasy truck stop burger that gives you the shits after eating it
Are you insane a good VG is actually untouchable unless you spamm outhkeeper
I love playing Varangian guard and I don’t want a buff because then I can brag to my friends that I play a bad hero
She’s S tier fym
I really like the idea of giving her more follow-up options out of her axe pinning moves.
Give her nothing else
I wouldn't mind if they took away her cc dodges or enhanced lights and added this instead
No buff needed.
"I think she just needs a little boost" Procedes to list a whole rework. Jokes aside Varangian has been a great brain dead time lol
I'm not gonna sugar coat it
@@precursoryt He is not going to sugarcoat it
Needs a nerf hardcore I’m alright with buffing other parts to make up for it but nerfs as follows
-lights need to have ether crushing counter or enhanced property’s not both in a 1v1 you are playing her game and only at her speed and in 4s she can just spam and hit your teammates with guaranteed damage for no risk as well as she has a safety net that if you do lights in the same guard even if by accident she wins starts her mix up
-that shield stun needs to be toned the fuck down some characters legit can’t play the game when she’s around I’m alright with her following up but not stunning you the babysit gank is to real and being able to burn revenge is not chill
- and lastly canceled ending recovery’s with stance is broken as fuck because she recovers to fast if it was like bp where it’s a punish after a read fine but she’s safe on this move and it makes killing her an impossible task sometimes where you are forced to bash and revenge feed
I do like this character but never in the history of for honor has a character ever come out that literally stops you from playing half the cast that’s not healthy at all I get it externally getting hit in not fun but I’d rather that then literally sitting there waiting for her to tell me when I can play the game again
I agree, they need to tone the defence down a bit and trade it off for better offence
People will just tell me to get good but I feel she needs a slight nerf to the speed of her lights and heavies nothing to drastic. But every time I light parry her it feels more like I guessed correctly rather than a skill-full reaction.
It's just animation, nowadays all lights are 500ms so you literally can't make them slower, because you will make her not be able to light att ever.
Just look at how almost no good zanhu will throw the light unblock, because it's 100 ms slower and even on console it's reactable enough to party on reaction a lot of the times at least.
Yeah what this guy said, I'd add I think the way she one-hands the axe in the animation doesn't help
but didn't you see the devs saying they want for honor to be a guessing game more than a skill based game? no one can be bad at a game that takes no skill
Surprisingly, she's very convenient and has plenty of useful tricks. When playing her I never feel myself fallen in a hopeless situation, because I'm always able to do something to my enemy.
And of course this is exactly the character that whole Russian/Ukrainian community has been begging for.
Does anyone else feel like Ubisoft just hates the Vikings? I mean there’s some of the supposed worst characters in the game in that faction And they also have horrible customization, except for Highlanders skin, which is actually awesome but other than that they just try some Conan the barbarian customization options, and I feel like most of the characters I wanna play are just kind of outdated, especially with today’s characters and meta. I desperately wanna play warlord and raider because they are pretty cool, and I like their play style, but raider has gone through so many ups and downs, and I feel like he struggles so hard against new characters and warlord is a safe option and he is good but very basic and not the most fun thing to play I have been hunting through every article I can find to see if they ever plan to rework him
I say this all the time and no one believes me
@@precursoryt well, it’s like you said they have the cool stuff like gudmundr and some minions but they won’t give it to us
The armor variations and set they gave for the Vikings has been bad so far and they gave Varangian Guard the same treatment as the Warmonger. Better armor than the other characters in that faction but gender-locked to the woman. Imagine having a male variant of those sets on those two.
They need to get rid of it, I’m winning duels at 95 percent with vag that’s not normal in the slightest 😂
Hmmmmm. Pirate, comes out broken, afeera, basically still broken, ocelotl, broken (for ganking on release) most heroes coming out with something broken about their kit, *enter new viking hero* oh, would you look at that THEY NEED A BUFF, I love ubis care and want to see the vikings shine ❤ (I sware they looked at their schedule and were like "ughhhh gotta do a viking season 😑")
varangian is fine offensively
They're just tired at this point
VG is kinda Bogus
-CCs on both lights?
-CC on Dodge light
-Both those windows seem easy to execute.
-External Hitbox on lights and finisher heavy is INSANE!
-She can slow time like Bayonetta with her full block
The dodge CC is gnarly as well
@@precursoryt EXACTLY! Forgot about that. Its bad haha
Her offense may be vanilla but it's over powered in dominion. Huge hit boxes and enhanced lights with a very favorable animation. I love when a VG hits me in the back with an unblockable heavy from a mile away.
You mean nerf
can someone please tell me what the little mining game was 😂
Return to Moria
She’s balanced until you have another vg there in a fight and if your fighting two of them and getting ganked then she’s extremely broken and it’s seeming obvious that people are getting bored of her straight forward warden 2.0 50/50 mixes that they’re just bashing and dodge baiting the bash. It’s very boring and needs a new feature to her moveset other than that boring chain. She also needs an increase in how much she feeds revenge when ganking and yes she probably shouldn’t have a crushing counter dodge light that’s excruciating.
but why everyone put her in S tier if she s not that good?
like i don t see a lot of her, and i ve started to play her today, so i don t really know much about her
I don't know why nobody plays her either.
I've played 20 straight games with no other VG except me.
Shes S tier because she has every tool in the game and absolutely no weakness while simultaneously being the defensively strongest hero in the game
IMO shes really fun to play in tough sweaty games against very good opponents
But in games where your team is stronger shes really boring as she's like bringing a gun to a knife fight
For democracy song in the intro is insane
Was there really a female Varangian Guard in history?
I don’t know about buffs and balancing, but I know one things for sure: I feel myself losing braincells every time I feint into a full block, they do a dodge attack, and my full block is gone before they hit me. Maybe it just needs to last a little longer?
Skill issue
Her fullblock actually lasts a little longer than bps or aramushas, but if u do the soft feint it can't usually full block dodge attacks, only interrupts. I suggest just hard feinting and parrying the dodge attacks tbh
It’s 100% a skill issue pal
I thought this initially but I think its just very situational
Wait till he plays aramusha
I didn’t get her since the Varangian guard aren’t female and that inaccuracy bothers me outrageously….I’ll stick with flippy mace girl
They are running out of ideas, I just like the axe and shield. I can finally make my khorne warrior >:D. This was probably the first hero I waited to buy with steel, she just looked so bland. She's like a worse bp with a pin that is useless in duels. As for the Aztec, I thought he would be my main, but I hate the hunter stance so badly and sometimes my dumbass accidently goes into. I wish they would just remove it and made it a dodge forward heavy. These last two heroes have been lackluster, not sure how they will spice them up going forward or maybe they have just given up.
Fr, kind of annoying because I don't think she's far off
a….. BUFF?! ok tweaker
Tbh personally I hate the fact her blockade is slow like compared to my 3rd main musha her version of blockade makes no sense I rather play musha because blockade is way better for example the light after zone of zerk is ez to counter with musha blockade but with vg its literally impossible it makes no sense to me why they add another hero with a blockade that arguably worse then the blockades we already have I'm pretty sure bps is even faster as I can flip orochis deflect but or the light after zerks zone but vg is just mid
10 hours? I spent three weeks grinding xp, getting armor for 3 active perks, just so I can say I don't have a reason to play her anymore
That's three weeks you could of been defending Malevon Creek soldier
Apologies my lord, what I did, I did for the people.
For some reason the newer characters are so boring and so simple in their moveset, the only thing in my mind that I would consider fun is afeera, she got a whole lot going for her, compared to the rest of the outlanders and VG.
I gave afeera 80 and medjay 80 . I feel that Afeera was crazy easy to rep up and quick I would get 35 damage for light or heavy party or on wall splat I'd get 58 damage on wall splat
no need to watch the vid u are actually so clueless its funny
100 percent skill issue hero f###s
I think the character is ok, but her abilites are dog shit and the other classes have way too much shit that makes them just better against her.
For her abilities
T1:
Take shelter i feel is dog shit. If you're in a team fight you're most likely never using the SBlock. You're going to be prio parries just because the amount of unblockable feint spam is in the game.
Body Count.... do i need to say more? Not good minion clear. And stamina and health gain extremely negligible.
Speed revive. Its ok
T2:
Ward. Extremely negligible cant even tell.
Thick skin. Same thing as ward, but i feel is just plain better
Thrilling Comeback: with hiw inconsistent venge is. This ability is just downright useless, and even the healing is not noticeable.
T3
Aesir Aura: its okay. Its just a small atk buff for hitting your "trap" move.
Punch through: imo just not good. Chip damage is just really neglegible especially when most people have, and throw dodge attacks over blocking. Shouldnt even be T3 feat.
Protected revive: its ok.
T4:
Reclaim the land: just give me the debuff banner/aura. The ability can only be used outdoors; which means you cant even put the debuff in indoor locations.
Regenerate: its just passive healing out of combat. Its ok i guess.
Stalwart banner: i believe its just a bettet regenerate, but on a CD and for the whole team.
I feel that the worst thing to deal with for this character above all is other Sblocks in team fights. Every other character except WL(i believe) can just hold their block without reprecussions. To fix this just add stam drain for holding hell priors passive gives him healing for holding; so why doesnt he lose stamina for doing so. Kyoshin flips his sword around so why doesnt he slowly drain stamina while holding. In TFs its much worse cause if they're both holding and you GB one. The other attacks immediately so you're stuck. Lastly they just need to rollback venge, or rework it to be consistent. Especially with DOTs like nobu bleeds
I can not stand how annoyingly loud and obnoxious they keep making the new characters. I can hear this she-hulk screaming from across the map. Not to mention her and that shield/mace harpy screeching non stop every .5 of a second a game starts.
Awful video this character needs nothing else playing against her is not fun at all (stop giving everyone dodge attacks
incredibly dumb take, for honors current design requires all characters to have dodge attacks and literally all characters do have dodge attacks
This game slowly turned into a soulslike :(
@@truedarklander that’s exactly my point dick head
I think the majority of the community agree with her needing a mid chain bash of sorts
I spent 10 hours learning virgin guard
It took me three minutes and then I just played her for 10 hours