S5 ● E26 €125,000 in eggs
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Thank you for sharing. So exciting to see the start of your season. Great information. :-)
thanks for sharing costs. It makes it much easier for me to plan a way into farming.
Do you finance major capital investments (like the chickens) in your farm?
Finally ordered the book yesterday to Pennsylvania, USA. I'm excited to watch the season unfold there at Ridgedale. Our broilers will arrive at our farm next week. Spring is springing!
So you managed to find organic point of lay hens?v Remarkable! We can't find them anywhere in europe.
How much land do you set aside for your poultry operation?
Good to see the hens back and I'm sure your egg customers can't wait to taste those pastured eggs they surely are the best .
I agree the birds will find the perches themselves but how do you manage the start of laying ,other than regular collection of eggs laid outside the nest boxes to break the habit do you do anything else to train the birds ,interesting topic for a future Video.
Hey here! I've read that using true grit (small pebble size) reduces feed cost. Chickens can more efficiently process what they eat. Thoughts?
Kathy Gillett *there*
just a quick question richard, all that land why not calculate feed weight and grow a grain seed mix.buy heirloom and grow again next year
shows how silly i am,but then again im awake at 4am considering building a mini prawn farm in my garden shed.
Richard have you ever thought about supplementing with mealworms? They are pretty easy to farm!
I believe that Richard mentioned in a video or in his book that this is not easily doable within the EU. If I recall correctly he mentioned that there are some rules in the EU that you can't breed them to feed them to your own animals or that you have to formally be a worm farm. Not sure about the details but I believe he mentioned that the effort/investments wouldn't be justifiable by the benefits.
Great, I will check the bible, thank you. ;)
Dear Richard. Great to whitness this day through this video. You are the person who inspired me and a friend of mine to start our very own regenerative micro egg business here in Portugal as a first step into regenerative agriculture. Do I do the math right, that you have about 1,4m2 per bird if you have a 100m long electric fence? Keep on rocking! Moritz
Which is much less than the 4m2 organic standard.
David Organic standard is 4m2? Seems to much for me, as the birds like to flock. But now it makes sence to me, that these farms are always huge and seem so empty. Like any other animal farm they concentrate all the manure in one location, burning the ground or making manure transportstion necessary. Thats a big parte of whar I like about moving animals on pasture.
So true. The space is not utilised correctly. The birds spend huge amounts of time inside and the pastures are ruined. Would be nice to see 4m2 per bird on a pasture system. But costs are higher.
Is it snowing?
Hi Richard, great content as always. Can you comment on how much land one would need to run one egg mobile with around 400 layers? I understand that this will vary across geographies but would appreciate an indication. My biggest challenge at the moment is finding land - and once I do find some, I wouldn't know how to calculate the potential of the land for layers. I read articles saying that 20 square meters per hen per year would be needed. Any thoughts on that?
You should try to find someone who will rent/share you some pasture. It is almost like asking if you can mow someones grass and fertilize for free almost. Should be fairly easy to find a good mutual arrangement. This is my plan to get started one day.
Unfortunately it is not that easy in Germany. If I need one hectar of land (which I believe is around 2,5 acres), then that will be a pasture outside of city/village perimeter. Placing an egg mobile there will require a building permit in most parts of Germany (incl. my area) which is impossible to get unless you are officially a farmer - which in itself is depending on things like total amount of land owned/leased and other things. Beyond that most pastures around here are in protected areas (drinking water, wildlife protection, etc.) again making it close to impossible to receive the required permits. This leaves me with the option to go after farmland, which is highly contested and often stays within the established farmers of each village. All this is why I have started a first test with broilers as the chicken tractors don't require permits - although butchering is challenging as there is no butcher within 80km that can legally butcher my chicken. Still hoping that an opportunity for land will come up eventually and preparing for that while I am searching. The "easier" options would be other people's backyards, but that would be small pieces of around 500 sqm if I am lucky and doesn't scale.
I've been looking in to running pastured poultry on a family cattle farm here in Australia. The regulations might not be exactly the same as in Europe but 20 square meters sounds really small in any case. For 400 hens under what is considered here to be "true free range" you would normally have them in a 50m x 50m square that moves a couple of times per week. This would work out to needing around 6.5 hectares (or 16 acres) in total for the year and works out to 162.5 square meters per bird.
The absolute limit to what our government considers free range is 10,000 birds per hectare, so 1 square meter per bird making it just 400 square meters (maybe a 20m x 20m square) instead of 2500 square meters in the previous example. However if you were to do it this way you might need to move the egg mobile every day instead of twice per week, meaning each chicken would effectively need 365 square meters per year (even if you moved them every second day they would still need 182.5 square meters per chicken per year).
The regulations might be different where you are or maybe people have much nicer pasture and don't have to move chickens as often, but 20 square meters just doesn't sound right to me.
Also if you have the option to raise layer hens in people's backyards or even smaller plots of land you might want to look into Justin Rhode's "chickshaw" design in the short term. I'm planning on building at least one of these to get started as I can't afford the time commitment and financial investment for a bigger flock at the moment.
Thanks for the details.
Going back to Richard's example in the video. He says that he uses two 50 meters poultry nets. Arranging those 100 meters for maximum space, would be a 25x25 square for a total of 625 square meters. He says that he moves each egg mobile every other days. This would result in 1 hectare being used after 16 moves (i.e. after 1 month). He starts the layers now (end of april) and moved them in the greenhouse in October last year, so they seem to be outside for around 6 months. So depending on how often you can put your layers on the same spot over that period, you end up with 1 to 6 hectares for an egg mobile of 400 birds, which obviously is a wide range.
As I currently have a small batch of 50 broilers on grass, I will have a close look at how quickly the grass regenerates to get an idea of how often I could use the land during one year.
@@pascalbaron944 Would be nice to hear how your broilers (and maybe layers by now) have been doing these past years. Care to share your experience?
Thanks Richard, great job! Does anyone know please what's the translation in Spanish for "pastured eggs" and "pastured chicken"? Thanks in advance!
I assume that would be "huevos de gallinas de pastoreo" and "gallinas de pastoreo", no?
very interesting but i have a question. what do you do when you have to cage the birds due to birdsflu. here in holland the birds have been caged by the goverment during the wintermonths.
It's sweden. During the period we call winter they're entirely covered by snow and the birds are inside already ;)
But yes, if it happened during summer I could indeed see it being a problem. An expensive one at that.
your time line here is backwards on the play list
Not sure if this was covered before but what are your thoughts on fermenting feed? I realize it would be a bit of a task for the amount of birds you now have. What about spreading the feed around on the ground to encourage them to forage? / scratch?
rather than having it "handed" to them in a feeder?
Wow, how very exciting! You got that heavy egg mobile paired down to a more manageable weight just in time. And how nice that you ordered a few extra birds for your fine neighbor.
I was surprised to learn that you actually have to supplement the food your hens glean off the pasture with even more feed than the industry standard because they're "out running around all day." I assumed that they made that up in the insects and greens they were getting on pasture. Do you think it's even possible to raise 100% pastured eggs with no commercial feed at all (during the summer) on the scale that your farm is at? If so, how might that be accomplished? In particular, I was curious about things like supplementing with organic food scraps/compost from grocery stores, restaurants &/or households, insects (like maggots, soldier flies or crickets) grown on waste food and meat scraps, road kill, etc. Perhaps this is only realistic on a very small scale due to the time and expense involved in making those things happen. Anyway, I know things are starting to get really busy around there, but if you have a minute I'm wondering about that. Really enjoy your farm and videos, and am hoping one day to put the info in your book into practice on the very small scale farm we're building out in the country for our "retirement!"
i'm fairly sure its illegal to feed chickens food scraps in uk
Wow...that's too bad to not be able to use a resource like that which often otherwise ends up in a land fill. It seems like the extra work involved in doing something like what this man in Vermont is doing would be well worth it in terms of the money saved on feed costs, the excellent taste of the resulting eggs and meat of chickens eating a diet that's far closer to their natural diet, and all the compost that would be generated and available to either use elsewhere on the farm or to sell! Clearly it's possible to do this very successfully in Vermont, USA anyway. I just didn't know whether this was feasible at Ridgedale at their latitude and with the resources available to them in terms of access to compost materials. That would be a bummer if it's flat out illegal! ua-cam.com/video/99QeAS57-do/v-deo.html
There's another man in Vermont, besides Karl Hammer, that is feeding his chickens from compost. Sean at Edible Acres created this playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLihFHKqj6Jeog3qoYlmhOPt_eElEhNMpH.html, or specifically see the video he published yesterday: ua-cam.com/video/4XWjFHVFqyo/v-deo.html
Right, I know. I just wondered whether that would work at the latitude at their farm...
That would be really neat to supply ALL the feed without any outside inputs. Some climates might be possible with mealworms/superworms/soldier flies etc. but with more labor, of coarse. Keep in mind, if you are importing good quality supplemental feed this is adding, from external sources, nutrients to your land which is an up-side benefit to your farm especially if you are fairly new and in a soil building mode. My understanding is that the highest yield nutritionaly in the 'bug farming' side is 'Dubia roaches' if you decide to supplement with your own 'bug enterprise'.
bwock bwock
Feet on wire floors really man? Are you serious?
Why do you show the Cornish White Rock or AKA - Cornish X or closed tripple back cross Cornish cross meat broiler chicken. A hybrid chicken created by crossing species, which makes traits farmers can not reproduce from eggs and must buy from factories always. You are making future of farming less secure by using this meat broiler strain of chicken which has destroyed the Plymouth Rock. The Cornish X grows so fast that it destroys the bird. The bird suffers not only leg damage over long term but muscles starve heart for oxygen and paralysis and heart failure occur over long term. The birds do not have natural forage instinct in high weight adult life in extreme temperature but will sit ten feet from feeders and die. The birds spine gets kinky back over the long term it grows in pain. You profit off of this instead of promote heritage breeds?
your telling me your making $200,000 (200 thousand canadian) just from selling eggs??? dude i need you to come here and set me up
Turning over is not the same as making. Using Euros, if 40% is in feed that's 50k. Add another 9k for the birds and we're at 59. Add medication, supplements, utility costs, transportation costs, licensing costs, labour costs, marketing costs and whatever other costs come up and it drops even more. If I have to guestimate it'll be more like making 25k on eggs alone. Still not bad as that means you'd be able to recoup your investments in the first year but not enough to lead a leisurely life :)
Forgot to say: But all of the income is technically pretty much a bonus as the birds follow the cattle, cleaning up and improving the soil. Which means the chickens are technically paying for helping improve the soil. Not a bad bonus.
If he sells 200.000 hens a year, that also means an equal number of male chicks are going into the shredder each year. One sad fact that I don't see addressed much....