How to trim for a roof window. The Big Build 29
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- How to trim for a roof window
In this video I show how to trim for a roof window
It is easy if you use a single rafter cut correctly to mark the trimmer positions and then there is no awkward measuring to do
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Modesty is defined as having a conservative estimate of one’s abilities. Robin is also willing to acknowledge the contributions of his fellow workers. Plus he doesn’t kill birds. I am assuming that is space that will b furnished. Not just an attic. And the window will b at the same angle as the roof. I’m sorta lost
Absolute JOY! Your apprentices are so blessed - not to mention your client!
Thank you for all your time explaining in perfect detail. a gentleman carpenter.
You are more than welcome Joe
Going by your explanation at the start of the video I thought you were going to install the bottom trimmers plumb and the top trimmers horizontally? One bit of advise I'd give in relation to wearing a tool belt is always put your hammer back in the holster after using it, the same for your speed square, chalk line, tape measure, etc, etc. To get the full benefit from a tool belt one needs to be disciplined and regimented in it's use. That is the main reason most chippies give up on tool belts, they don't use them correctly. The hammer comes out, bang, it goes back in he holster. After a while one doesn't even think about it, it becomes pure muscle memory.
Property fixings, fixed properly
I'd expect nothing less, but again, it's so simple in not sure why it's not done like that by everyone 🤷
And the acknowledgement for the accuracy of the cutter of the lumber was a nice touch too 👍
Robin, I love the way you explained this window trim. Please do so with other installs or constructions. Sometimes if you do a quick explanation without doing it or without a drawing, I get lost. This is great, wonderful and so fine, I can do it like you want it.
It's a pleasure just watching Robin work. So methodical and he, ahem... nails everything.
Just a high quality tradesman doing it right!
Good job Robin . Credit where credits due.
Keep up the good work always good to see quality and consistency.
With every thing and the details.
Love it when every thing is true and square plumb . All that prep and working out at beginning makes the difference and easier in long run .
Experience is key.
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The Velux manual that comes with their windows shows the bottom trimmers vertical and the top ones horizontal. I've always fitted them that way.
In 20 years, i've only seen one actually fitted that way to the manual !!
We do a combination of styles sometimes we go level and plumb but it depends on setting out and client preferences
@@ukconstruction would it be a cold bridge if the trimmer is level off the top of the window? Or insulated plasterboard on the underside
Robin you do it in a complex fashion. It may work for you but there are quicker easier methods that are just as accurate.
Im not a carpenter just a keen DIYer but even i understood this and has inspired me to fit a couple of my own roof windows... Thanks Robin...
Nice job robin
Brilliant video thanks Robin 😊 👍
You’re welcome 😊
Great tip for the doubled rafter. Actually my job for tomorrow, just need your weather too!
Brilliant , keep up the work I’m learning a lot watching you and taking that to my own day to day site work you lads are very relatable and the work is brilliant! I’m inspired by yourself top man 👍
Nice one Jordan!!
I can't even imagine how knackered you would be at the end of the day before the nail gun was invented
Driving nails is the easy part. Its the climbing and twisting of your body all day that adds up. You rarely ever see an overweight roofer.😄
Wish I had the benefit of this 30 years ago when I pitched a roof over my garage. No nail guns in them days and the timber was rough sawn so plenty of splinters! Great video - thanks.
love the channel, those tool belts are a crazy price
They are worth the money, I have had several different types of nail pouch arrangements over the years and this DiamondBack rig is the business I could easily wear it all day without noticing that I have it on!!
Superb Robin and you wont see many guys in their fifties nimbly moving around a roof like you do mate👊
Cheers Del!!
Good one , hope your temporary roof is ok middle of a bad storm here should be with you tomorrow 👍🇮🇪☘️🤟
Hi John, we have removed it now thank goodness!! We had a couple of brown trouser days when the winds got up!!
@@ukconstruction 👍😂 forgot you were ahead of the videos 👋😁☘️🇮🇪
I hope you are all ok over in Ireland and the storm has not been too unkind!!
Ok So far 👋👍🤟
jobs a goodun keep em coming
Hello boys! Hope you all have a beautiful weekend! I’m off camping with a few of the boys.
Brilliant...
I love your accuracy and style.
God bless you
Best wishes from Leicester ENGLAND.
Ahmed
Thanks Ahmed
Top job as always. Love a tight fit!
Great video Robin, thanks for sharing.
Very welcome
Another top class video
I have aways set out velux window trimmers as you have shown , it's looks so much better and increases the sunlight. Excellent content as usual 👏 👌
Thanks 👍
Good job you've had that scaffold cover up this week Robin!
I think this was filmed way over a month ago.
Excellent job and well explained as usual.
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Robin, love watching your vids, find them so interesting and find myself learning so much!! And that’s coming from a spark who has no clue about half the things your saying🤣keep up the amazing work mate!!👌🏻👍🏻
You’re welcome flower
Want to see robin do veluxs, such a quality builder
they say robin when your good your vrey good
Nicely done Robin 👍spot on as always mate 👏👏👏
Thank you so much 😀
Great job, man
Ur a cut above the rest different class love ur work ⚒⚒
Great video thanks so much
Glad you enjoyed it
👏👏 Good job. 😅 Phew, I was worried my video was going to be obsolete about working out where to put the trimmers to have a splayed reveal 😁
Link to that video on level and plumb reveals?
@@abutw0 youtube normally blocks video links, only the channel creator can post links in their comments. Search for: how to frame and trim a splayed velux window
Nice to see everything you do is with precision and thought, how you finding the nail gun? My paslode always seems to play up just when your lining up a timber one handed 🙈 keep them coming mate thank you
I always like to involve the roofer in setting out windows so we dont cause any problems with his tiles Leaving tiny cuts above or below the window and giving the roofers even more reasons to complain
I mentioned that we allow 75mm in space in our setting out to allow the window to be fitted exactly to suit the tile courses when the tiler is on site
@@ukconstruction missed that, but i knew you would 👍
Yes you are so correct me and Robin set the windows out to suit tile tile and a half on the plain tiles to make it work lovely and we would do this always
Something funny going on with the weather in this. Sunshine, t-shirt. You'll be wearing shorts next.
Robin are you working in Spain ? We’ve had hats gloves long johns on for about 3 weeks now up in the north 😀 The master as always !
This is what its like in the Far south of the UK!!!
I’ve always cut the eaves tail back on the second rafter not needed for the fascia or soffit. Especially if it’s an open eaves detail.
yes thats a nice touch, there is nothing worst than seeing pairs of rafters in an open eve!!
Eye level for you? Or the lads?😂
Thought you liked the head and cill flat and plumb?
The finishes
Will be when’s it’s plasterboarded
Nicely done Robin, I have never understood why you need double rafters for Velux when the Velux is actually lighter than if it was tiled, other than for picking up the plasterboard there is no point and there are other ways of doing that 👍👌
It's for the window flashing and the batterns to attach to above.
The load of all the tiles between each single rafter that touches the Velux, is transferred to those rafters via the trimmers, as there's one full length rafter missing, thus requiring doubling up for strength.
What you said at point 2.30 about the roof tiling did you mean that you made the opening about 75mm bigger than it needed to be so that you could move the window up or down to suit the tiling?
Yes mate bang on!
Hi robin
I noticed you had a hikoki nailer in the video but you was using the milwaukee which one out of the 2 do you prefer
I prefer the hiKoki nail gun because it’s slightly lighter that’s the only Bing that I can say to you . I have been using all of the guns hiKiki is lighter I actually prefer my Paslow for Fixing and nailing anything on the Roof battening And other things too as I find a lighter
Hi Robin, I first saw the vertical/horizontal sill idea to let more light in on the Skill Builder channel. I'd like to use that idea for my loft conversion. Do you have a video on how you do that or point to a video that shows it from trimmer to window install. Thanks.
I didn't get th space created relative to the size ov the Velux and the need to have sloping sides top and bottom for max light entry.
Superb 👍🏻
Where is this filmed Robin? The weather always looks great
Near the beautiful South Downs in West Sussex mate
Lovely video as always. Do you install double joist hangers on your trimmers as well?.
Sometimes, if specified but my technique is really strong and providing that you are using a heavy duty galvanised nail in the correct pattern of nailing then its super strong
👍 perfect! Right paced
Do not use joist hangers on your trimmers?
I presume these reveals will be 90 degrees to the window and not level and plumb by the way you've put the trimmers or I'm I wrong ????????????
Great work as always
No the trimmers are set back enough to fit the window and then have plumb and level bottom and top reveals,
Fantastic
Hi Robin, how do you recommend venting around velux windows on a dormer, do you need vents above and below each windows and in between each rafter, that's quite a few vents? Thanks
Cracking job 👍
Why do you need a double on the bottom? It's only a small span
we have to use joist hangerss
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What's the antenna on the ear protection for?
Maybe im wrong but arent you supposed to double up on the rafters
You didn't see far enough into the video where I add the doubles and I also explain in the video why we laminate up the members to get the best fixing positions etc???
Nice video Robin as usual
Question please i am currently working in the building industry carpentry based. I am thinking of doing a level 2 site carpentry course
To give myself some qualifications as good skill set but not a time served chippy
Do you think at my age 58 its a bit late thanks baz
Baz, I'm not Robin, but....If you do a short course, one of the 3-4 week courses, they cost about 5 grand. You work 2000 hours a year. If it puts your pay up by only £3 an hour, it will have paid you back in a year. 11 more years to retirement- you'd have an extra 50 grand earned.
In my case, I fell out with my boss at 16, and never got qualified. I've worked all over, but at 47 I thought I'd get my qual. I find it gave me the confidence to start charging properly for work, and the difference is an extra £120 a day. In 10 years that's a quarter of a million quid. Yes, it is worth doing
@@rossbuchanan7632 thanks for that ross looking at a 1 year 2 evening a week level 2 carpentry at a college cost wise around 1500
That way i can also work thanks baz
Why not Barry, it is never too late to do the course, you may find it very easy mind!! go for it mate
Question, do you need to bolt double rafters or joists? also do you need to provides hangers around such structures? Thanks, again great video thanks Robin
Yeh I thought you needed to bolt double rafters with timber connectors & it was recommended to use hangers for the trimmers but obviously Robin knows what he's doing so I'm guessing thats not always the case depending on the designs etc.
How would you have fixed the opening if it wasn’t square ?
Just wondering as it’s nailed to death at that point.
A decent painter would be able to get round it mate
I was wondering that too.
hope u have checked your filters in your HRV lately
What nails are you using and where you getting them from? I’m still buying pasload and not using the gas, occasionally I’ll buy a generic brand but they still coming with the gas and seem lower quality
I finished off the roof on an abandoned extension
Wished I’d seen this first
What about fitting one into an existing roof rather than a newbuild??
Well there are similar techniques that I would use, as soon as I have one to do I will film it!! Cheers for watching mate
Most of my work is replacement joinery & it can be difficult trying to limit the amount of making good, especially on older proprties. Keep them coming Robin they're always interesting
Thank you Graham
With a name like Robin , the animal activists won't touch you, mate 😂
I'm sorry, if you're killing birds, I hate cruelty to animals, so I'm unsubscribing ! 😉
Hi Robin, great vid as always. Just got a question. I noticed you didn't go for the splayed reveal option, in your opinion are there situations where its not necessary? It's a bit of a faff splaying reveals but I thought it was for optimum light ingress.
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Do you use the (2/3) rule for the height above plate when cutting rafters? Thank you, Ron from Burlington Vermont.
Great question and I am planning a dedicated video all about that theory, as it depends on many factors but as a general rule yes we do keep 2/3rds above plate