POE 2 Console Review: Pillars of Eternity 2 Ultimate Edition for consoles is Two Games in One
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- Pillars of Eternity 2: Ultimate Edition Console Review. fextralife.com/poe-2-console-... In this video, we'll take a look at Pillars of Eternity 2 a CRPG developed by Obsidian. How does it measure up and is it worth the price tag? Check out the video to see our thoughts!
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if you are 20 hours in game and didn't even watch the controller layout in the menu, or haven't pressed the triangle button once, then i don't know who's at fault lol ;)
Got over 300 hours on the PC with this game, probably my fav title of last decade. Weird that it sold so poorly and has left Obsidian evaluating the franchise's future.
Can't be evaluating too hard if they ported it to both consoles.
@@irisdogma8174 Since the port seems to be rather poor, it is more than likely a cash grab to help fund their next project.
@@CamperCarl00 They have mega-funding through xbox games studios (microsoft own them). But even if this was true, it suggests the coding effort was worth it, profit wise.
Everyone says pillars 2 sold poorly compared to 1. But that was immediately after release, could be they've had steady aftersales.
They are also of course on gamepass for pc (and now I imagine xbox). And gamepass doesn't depend on sales, it's more like a netflix model - the number that matters is sign ups.
@@irisdogma8174 Pillars 2 sold very poorly, barely above 100k sales
Im still at the start, I find the pacing kinda slow. does it get better?
As you mentioned, the load times/crashes were a VERY BIG issue for me in the original game's PS4 release. It got to the point that I was forced to ignore my OCD and I made myself stop going to the living quarters in Caed Nua to organize and store gear because the 6 - 8 loading screens it took to make a round trip from where ever I was on the map coupled with the frequent freezes and crashes during said transitions meant that it would sometimes take me upwards of an hour (and infinite patience) to do such. As a result, I quite literally had to force myself through the last 15 or so hours of my play though just to see how the story ended. Often, I had to talk myself out of dropping the game all together.
It was NOT an enjoyable experience but I loved the story so I endured it.
I'm very interested in PoE2, and it's nice to know that in return for the gauntlet I worked through will be repaid by me being allowed to use my character from the last game, but I was truly hoping that the load/crash issues would have been addressed by now. I'm no game designer, but I honestly can't understand why this is an issue that has lingered for so long over 5 years and two games. Is it just that Obsidian needs to have another group handle their ports or is their programming architecture just that poor? Do they not care that this is a persistent issue plaguing their console players/supporters? I just don't get it.
Completely agree. Same reason I dropped PoE 1 and didn't finish it. I'm a fairly patient gamer but the sheer amount of loading screens and the length of the loading screens harkens back to the PS1 era and that's frankly ridiculous.
When the game loads for so long that you wonder if the game has locked up on you then you've got some porting/technical issues that require serious addressing, console wise.
I have a few tips to make peoples experience more smooth on PS4.
1. Don't play turn based, it's broken. Especially on Poko Kahara.
2. Just keep 1 manual save file and three auto saves. This actually helps not increase load times.
3. Clean out your inventory, don't let it get too massive with weapons, armor etc
4. Poko Kahara again, just finish it as soon as possible. Don't explore on that place. For some reason this place is unstable.
5. If game starts lag it helps if you relaunch the game. It's not ideal but it's better than lag.
It crashed quite a bit for me on Tikawara so I had no choice but avoid that island altogether
@@justanotherrandomontheyout4791 It didn't do it for me. Seems what experience you get is random. Reinstalling the game and deleting old saves solved many issues for me. But for others that didn't work. So idk.
@@Mystra I might go back and finish it one day but as of right now I've started playing other games 😅
I might go back and finish it one day but as of right now I've started playing other games 😅
Automatic day 1 buy for us on the PS4. 1) This studio deserves to be supported we love Obsidian 2) They are now (Obsidian) a Microsoft exclusive studio so this MAY be the last Obsidian game we can ever buy and play on a PS system. An 3rd and last) The original game was stellar and along with Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2 are the Balder's Gate Ice Wing Dale and Never Winter games of the modern era. @Fextralife HUGE THANK YOU for focusing some time on this brilliant game and hope to see you all do build guides or tips for new comer's to the PS4 game. Much thanks and appreciation for the rpg Love of this channel.
I love them and their games to, I just wish that they could iron out the game-breaking, corrupts all of your saves at once somehow bugs before releasing it, especially considering all of the solutions the internet has to the problem involves manipulating files that console users don't have access to. Frustrating playing for 20 hours with multiple save files only to realize that none of them will load and you aren't even sure what you did to break them or whether the same thing will happen when you start a new game. Especially considering how much of your playtime is taken up with loading screens to begin with, forcing you to restart the game because of unspecific, nebulous bugs that may or may not repeat themselves at any moment can be...tiring, to put it politely.
@@rustyshackleford1062 love the King of the Hill screen name :). AN yes tho that specific issue has not hit the wife and I at all we are aware of it and it did happen to my sister and she was quite pis%ed off so understandable (your point of view) is.
I really loved Poe 1 on PS4 but it did crash a few times and the loading times were a huge problem, I'm sad to hear Deadfire has the very same issues. Looks like a wait for heavy sale before I buy. Cheers for the review!
*pro-tip* I was also was frustrated with the lack of item description screens popping. If you push the Triangle button on the hover in the menu screen, the description will pop the second window! :)
There is also L3 (I think) which gives you a cursor you can hover over highlighted words/abilities to get another pop-up
@@JDMStav that's correct! That's the 'tooltip' cursor used for linked item descriptions and lore. Anything in the dialogue or combat log menu
I happened to be off work when this released yesterday. Eight hours went by before I even knew it. I am really enjoying this game so far and I love the unique take on traversing the world map and exploring.
I loved loading screen simulator of eternity, definitely getting the 2nd one!
Install on m2 SSD
🤣😂😂🤣
Man this looks so dang good! Pretty sure I'll pick it up myself. Keep up the good work!(I wonder if mouse and keyboard works with Xbox edition)
The story is fantastic, but the load times have me asking "is it worth it?"
Glad I’m not alone 😂 been loving it, but those darn load screens have me questioning life’s existence
Hopefully by the time I'm fully done with DOS2, they will work out all the issues with this.
1 year later...did it work?
I am interested jn getting this for the PS4? But crpgs seem to be ported poorly for console, a shame, really, they seem to be really good games.
@@SeventhheavenDK excuse me “most crpgs on the ps4 are ported poorly”
Guess game like baldurs gate and pathfinder kingmaker are bad ports then even tho they have high reviews
Same goes to dos2 and disco elysium
Fuck those 9/10 to 10/10 ratings am I right in the ps4 am I right
Hi on console you press L3 (push in the left stick) to see tooltips for items. Hope this helps
Playing on Xbox. Does anyone know how to keep the combat log up at all times? Can bring it up but it doesnt stay on the screen and cant figure out how to resize it. Also it only tracks the last 15-20 actions in combat.
It's great, but those load times are tough.
The turn based battles r amazing. I'm not very good at real time and pause so this made it very playable for me. I'm surprised at how many times I hear that someone just discovered this button does this thing. I'm the type of person that pushes all the buttons like a kid in an elevator right away to see what they all do
I'm looking forward to play POE 2 on PS4. Thank you for the advice to have less than 10 save games to improve loading times. That's very much appreciated.
how has it been?
@@MR1shank I'm still playing it. I'm 27 hours in and enjoy it quite a bit. Feels like I've barely scratched at the surface yet. Loading times are horrible though. I followed the advice given in the video and stay below 10 save games (including auto saves) but loading a new map takes >1m and reloading a save takes >2m (on PS4). In areas like Neketaka where basically all you do is entering buildings/maps every few seconds this makes the game border on unplayable.
@@te7940 are you on PS4 or PS4 pro?
@@callisto537 I played the game on a PS4
@@te7940 I see
I am totally obsessed with this game, found it a couple weeks ago then found you, love your content. Only complaint is the loading screens and lag during combat or in heavy congested areas..hope they patch it!
Only error ive noticed that wasnt mentioned is the sleight inventory glitches that show and item thats not being hovered over
Oh.......with the movement and select objects/enemies thing.....yeah..i dont want to disarm my trap mid fight spending my movement when attempting to attack a group of enemies. . .ANNOYANCE LVL100!
Great game....love it so far
(Turn-based mode selected)
Great review. Does the console version add turn-based mode to the first game as well, or restrict it to the 2nd game only like on pc?
Only the 2nd game
2:29 YO
Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series? I DEVOURED that series when I was in high school lol. Every week I would check out one book, finish it, then return it so that I could check out the next in line.
That series is so, so, so good.
Amazon is making a TV series!
I waited for this for quite a while cause I don't have a PC due to my choice...
I lived POE when it came out for PS4 it's still early released so I hope there are updates and load time (maybe even get rid of some loading for no reason) but this is a great game...my advice to anyone getting it is after two hours or a few new areas you go to save it and go back to the main menu to reload where you were cause it gets vary bogged down for whatever reason (I have a newer PS4 pro and external hard drive) but after doing that it runs so much better.
@Fextralife how about the bug that won't let you load your save because of file corruption? I've tried 3 different New games and as soon as I get to use the ship to explore my saves won't load. I play on ps4
I would love to see a Pillars of eternity 3 game with say you pick a class then when you get to a certain level go on a quest to find a item to upgrade your class. I loved the Ogre Battle game and the final fantasy games that had this.
Have load times been fixed? I’m about to start a game on POE (first game) on Xbox one x and don’t wanna invest if load times suck. I have a pc and I’d just play it on there
Does it come with turn based mode right of the box for Xbox one or do you need to update cause I don't have internet at home(im in my cousins house right now).
Playing it on the PS4 now. You literally nailed just about everything. Inventory bug as well is frustrating. Loading times are rough but everything else is great
Paul DiSilvestro just bought it second hand,I thought Obsidian had patched it by now???
@@nman78 don't ever buy a ported game and expect it to perform well.
@@BudMasta unless it's from Larian studios
@@CasualPlyr . Unless is not a crpg at all.
My two cents, from someone playing on ordinary, non-enhanced XB1.
I bought the XB1 version because my PC is very dated and does not run the game very well in that version. Unfortunately, the performance isn't much better-- frame rate hiccups during combat are the most common issue (one which I also have on PC) plus various small bugs. And, of course, the monstrous loading times-- even my PC for all its issues with the game doesn't have that particular problem. I'm hoping these things get addressed in patches. The real test will be whether the framerate slows to a crawl when you cast big, intense spells like Wall of Fire, which is what happens on my PC. I haven't had a chance to test that situation yet.
I only have a base model XB1 (not the XB1X) so I suspect the performance *may* be slightly better on the more advanced model. The load times, however, do not sound like they get better. Also, comparing my game on ordinary XB1 to FextraLife's stream of the game on PS4 last week, there are some definite graphical downgrades without the Pro or XB1. Most notably, the non-enhanced consoles disable a lot of lighting effects on torches and the like, meaning that areas overall are much darker and occasionally it is virtually impossible to see anything in specific places like dungeons.
I would still recommend the game, but believe me that if I had a better PC I would not bother with the console version. The port is serviceable but not great, and has a lot of issues. Still, I'm hoping it will be improved by a patch or two.
On PC you can play on lower resolutions, which IMO, look fine. I played the whole thing on intergrated graphics - I think the main thing you need is lots of ram and a fast disk.
Ugh, sad to hear about the loading times. Really took a toll on enjoyment of the first game even on the PS4 pro. It is actually what I remember most of the first game...
Bums me out, as this looks to be a way better game than the first one. Better animations, better graphics, more cool looking gear and epic boss designs/fights.
Overall I liked poe 1 better. I agree with all you said it's just that PoE 1 has a stronger story and characters. Poe 2 is by far more polished and has better combat and graphics though, no doubt.
Gotta disagree with the other poster here, I think the story is just as strong, it just has different strengths and weakness. Won't comment on what as I don't want to spoil, but one of the strengths is the tying in of side stories into the main story; does that really well.
Graphics wise, For PoE2, they pre-rendered some of the animations, and do post rendering for a surprising amount too (such as environmental reflections, shadows, weather etc). It's a real hybrid of isometric 2d and 3d, without doubt the best looking true isometric game there is. I hope there's a PoE3 because this style never got as much technical advancement as 3d games due to the fall of popularity with publishers between classic and renaissance. With the right technical advancement, it could in some ways be better looking than 3d (in a hybrid, there's less to render in real time, and pre-rendered stuff can be done on commercial grade hardware).
Imma wait alittle bit and hope the updates help it. I loved first one alot to
yeah the load times are killing me on ps4pro. it’s ridiculous and unplayable.
My biggest problem with PoE was the really long load screens. Especially when you get into the later part of the game where you’re quickly moving in and out of towns and your keep for side quests, then selling and upgrading characters, then moving out again. A 2 hour play session could literally have you sitting through 30 min or more of load screens (I know because I actually timed it once). I hope this one isn’t quite as bad in this .
Yeah, I think they are a bit shorter on PoE 2. Some loading is unavoidable in a partially 2d game like this, because there are large wads of high res images to load.
@@Particle_Ghost Hmm, they are shorter on PC.
@@Particle_Ghost Well hmm. I mean, I agree with some of those. The based game it's definately less of a dungeon crawler. There's no ten level endless dungeon - something I enjoyed. The game is much larger, in terms of individual areas though, and many of those places have towns, cities, small wilderness, caves/dungeons. There is more exploring, and many smaller areas along with a few big ones (theres a few levels of caves under the main city btw, but it's optional so I think some ight have missed it). There is however a larger multi-level dungeon type set up in one of DLCs (the last one). It's not quite 10 levels but it'll scratch the itch. It scracthed mine/
I think if you solely play the main campaign and rush through it, you are missing the point - there's numerous side stories one can pick, and they relate to the mainstory, and also npc sidequests. The game doesn't make you do that either, you have to pick a faction and they have side quests. There's a lot of interesting stuff to do, rather than trying to speedrun to the end credits. Technically you can but I have no idea why anyone would choose to.
That's particularly compounded the three dlcs, which taken together are much bigger than the one you got with PoE1. Individually they are smaller, but there's three of them, so difinately bigger when put together.
There's lots to love too - the setting is unique, the ship travel is fun (just board rather than do cannon fights), the graphics are the best of any true isometric, the npcs are likeable, have banter, have endings, their own sidequests and romance options and I liked the writing. The main arc does feel a little built up, and I think maybe some people didn't realise there was time to take in more (most rpgs don't have plot timers, and this one doesn't either). I like the end (it's pretty epic), and I particularly liked how all the factions, npcs, and other side stories tie into that.
I liked it so much, I've played it twice. I've still yet to finish all the expansions. But I said the whole map, and found some interesting side things I wouldn't have otherwise. I didn't finish in five hours in either of my playthroughs - more like a couple of days each time - and as I said, still haven't completed all DLCs. I think the only way to finish in that time would be to google the one way you can shortcut all the faction stuff (key plot). There's a thing you can get that lets you shortcut to the end. Which, to be frank is a bad idea. I got it, and didn't use it to shortcut the plot.
I did like the big dungeon in 1. But I think with the expansions there's enough here for that.
@@Particle_Ghost Oh the other thing it has is a really good AI system for party members (PoE's AI sucked, they improved it a little later, and it still sucked). I feel like the classes feel more meaningful in this too, because of the combat mechanics changes. That said, it's only challenging in some fights on normal difficulty, so if you love that feeling of holy shit I'm going to die in every combat, they have added higher difficulty tiers to be as punishing as you want.
Pathfinder "kingmaker" is another good game if that's on console. It's a little more in the style of neverwinter nights graphically, set in galorion. The plot is very well written, but boy it's long. On initial release it had insane levels of bugs (they fixed).
@@Particle_Ghost I think if you felt the other beamdog games were a bit dated, you might feel the same about NWM. NWM2 was a bit prettier, as was Icewind dale 2 - the two games they didn't remake because they didn't have access to their engines/code.
POE2's AI is a bit confusing, but there are online guides to help you customize. If it's very slow loading on PS, yeah perhaps just give it time, see if they fix it.
I'm also meh about DOS games. The lore is pretty meh, and the story okay, the npcs definately boring, and tactical combat can crawl. As two player games, they are awesome. Solo, IDK.
Wasteland 2 - well I never played that through much like DOS2. The interface is a bit fiddly, it's also tactical/turn based, but the lore/npcs do seem a lot better than DOS IMO.
Just out of my personal curiosity, are there any news on some sort of realease on Switch? Thank you so much in advanca, keep doing your amazing work!
My Switch load screens are pretty fast I feel. I really wonder about class balance on turned based and real time and how it will perform on Switch.
I didn't play pillars one because of real time pause but now that I know turn-based is a option I'll actually pick this up
Same
same for me i start it today 😃
The problem i had was the load screens. VS pillars of eternity is has more buildings etc so more load screens, a lot more load screens. When you are told to talk to x and then you have to go to y is is a long series of load screens walking a few seconds to get another load screen and then walk to another load screen. Sometimes you have to figure out where to go so even more load screens. Basically the game is great to me but the load screen was unbearable after a while. Currently hoping next gen console will change this.
thank you for the content. could you kindly update us with a pinned comment if a patch comes out that addresses the crashes and any other issues? Thank you.
Yes, this! +1 Please update us.
So it is definitely kind of frustrating to play sometimes, but I am 20 hours in, and I am very happy with the game in any way. I've been waiting a lo0ng time, and idc if its rough. I'm still having fun. I do have to say that I still prefer real-time with pause. Like I said sometimes its frustrating, but overall I do prefer it. The game switches my AI settings randomly so hopefully they patch that soon as I like my party to just auto attack so I can micro manage combat hahaha.
Oh and I did try Turn based combat for a little bit (made a junk character to play the first few hours) and it was nice. It felt like hanging out with a friend that I used to hang out with from high school.
I've been going back and forth a ton on turn-based or real-time, but I think I'll just trust your judgment and go turn-based.
turn based is the only way to me.
Play Divinity OS 2 to see turn based done better than PoE 2 does it. Like getting to do more than one thing a turn.
@@Charok1 Non sense.
@@Charok1 Yeah, and play PoE 2 if you want compelling well written non-player characters, world-building and player story agency ;P
The AI options are pretty good, such that you only need to give orders in tough combats, on normal difficulty settings - if you are primarily in it for the story. But if you want to play on punishing difficulty levels, turn based is a no brainer.
@Mark Lucchese I wouldn't know, I haven't played them all. It is a great combat system though. Fun to play, challenging, if a bit gimmicky IMO in terms of their being environmental effects strewn everywhere . Certainly the best multiplayer cRPG I've personally played too.
Your review just bought me the game. Been with you since DoS2 and you haven’t steered me wrong yet. Good review.
If you’re on consoles I suggest you limit your saves to avoid loading times becoming very long! The game is excellent :)
Absolutely love this game so far on PS4....but the load times hurt my soul.
Omg I would probably be halfway through the game if they weren't so long or if I didn't fall asleep waiting
So much better on the series x and ps5
@@johnherrera5261 because they slow games on the old consoles that they “optimized” for the new ones to try to bait people into wasting money buying the new consoles. Just like apple slows old phones to make people buy new ones when it’s not necessary to
@@ookalar665 I'm no saying your wrong but my load times are the exact same depending in the game it's almost like a 7 year old console will have a harder time running new games god pwoole are fucking dumb is Microsoft scamming me because I can't play cyberpunk on my 360 too?
@@ookalar665 No, not really. The PS5 has a better graphic card and a SSD Hard Disk in it. This makes a HUGE difference. This makes the PS5 better and not compareable to apple who releases new phones and products after months. Also i don´t see it as "wasting money" when i buy a next-gen console with improved software and hardware, years and years after PS4 release. Neither i think that YOU would stick to the same car for 30 years to not "waste money", right?
Ordered yesterday on gamestop. Is on the way now. Been waiting for this as I have a crappy pc. Divinity 2, when gighting on the oil field area basicly kills my frames
Can you use normal movement or do you have to use point and click?
The game is on sale right now in the PS Store, and I'm wondering if all the bugs have been squashed as of now? Or are there still issues with the console version?
There are still issues but it's doable, but I've only 25 hours in so idk about later. Keep that in mind.
Finally i see someone talk about this.
The enormous pain it is to micromanage 5 characters in real time on console.
that is why there is a comprehensive character Ai editor in the game inspired by FF 12 and Dragon Age Origins. you can automate as much or as little as you like. you can also change combat speed with a slider to suit your needs
@Morgoth Bauglir Doesn't work.
The game is easy on easy, but it's still a huge pain if you don't like the micromanaging.
And ff12 is a really bad example. The gambit system is completely broken.
Your party either does nothing or the game plays itself.
I hate the XP system, but everything else is good. I want to get XP for killing shit, not for completing missions only.
Loading screens are my only complaints, obsidian is a great studio
Now lets just hope there wont be memory leaks like there STILL are on PC
I started this game when it first launched on PC and got about 5 or 6 hours in before encountering some issues and then putting it on the back burner waiting for some updates. I never got back in after that but have always meant to, going to start up a new game this weekend.
The game Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire - Ultimate Edition, has support for mouse and keyboard?
I play on PC, but I liked hearing your general review of the game (before you delved in the Console issues). Well done.
I put 50 hours into the first game on PS4 before giving up because of the Anthem-level loading screens. Not making the same mistake again.
Exactly....... Like 5 minutes for ONE load screen son!!!!!!!! 5 minutes!
Yep, that was the same issue I had. I got the standard PS4 and not the Pro and I heard even on the Pro the loading screen can be pretty bad. I might check this out when the PS5 comes out and "hopefully" this will be backward compatible.
I finished on ps4 but those loads times made it a slog and puts me off ever playing it again, shame because it was great in so many other areas, loved the atmosphere.
@@80sCartoonVillain of course it will be 🙂 there shouldnt be any doubt that next generation will be compatible with our games now.
@@-pressxtostart- Hey I always expect the worst so I won't be disappointed if it happens or I'll be pleasantly surprised when the worst doesn't happen :)
When will this come out on PSN Asia (SG)?
No crashing on Xbox One at all and I'm 10hrs in! I wanted to but couldn't get into PoE1 but I'm loving this in turn based mode. It's poor at explaining mechanics but once you get to grips it's a blast.
Same I've played a whole bunch of hours on xbox one and I haven't had any issues or crashes and the controls are good to me
I also play in turn based in this game I havent tried the ongoing instead of turn based though
I also havent had any long loads etc because i have big hard drives anyway
Is it possible to buy on the pc and use turn based combat with controller?
Best Baldur's Gate like game now, in 4k perfect armors, weapons, characters, better animation the most important voice acting but can we turn of just stupid selection circles to be visible only when paused like on pc, not all GUI like in first? Or we must stay with Larian Divinity 2?
I’m playing Pillars of Eternity and I’m excited to play this game immediately after and then moving on to divinity
Keith Lee That’s funny because I’m checking this out after playing divinity 2.... AMAZING GAME especially if you got friends to play with but it’s not necessary at all
Juan McNeely from what I understand Pillars doesn’t have the humor that divinity has
Yea I been waiting a long time for this game to come to ps4 and been playing non stop so amazing doing my first run not turn based then doing my second run turn based I wanted to do turn based first but just to be familiar this go around did real time.
How’s turn based verses real time, easier to control? Did loading times bother you in PS4?
Loved dos2 on ps4 but felt poe1 on ps4 was just OK.. The loading though.. I'll await any further patches for this one although soo many other great games coming soon.
How do you talk to your party members on PS4 I’ve been trying figure that out!!
Press R1 until you get to the character you want to talk to then press R2 and use the analogue stick to go to the talk to option
Wheel of Time is a masterpiece. Ready for the mini series.
I ordered from Amazon (PS4) and there telling me shipping in 1-3 weeks! What's up with that?
they are != there
They are = they’re*
Why didnt you download it?
i play on the ps4 too, and yeah the crashing is very annoying. Still love the game though. fantastic story!
Loved pillars one, not so much pillars 2, it was ok and looked beautiful but the overall setting wasnt my thing, also the changes to character portraits irked me as well as the sounds in battle seemed way off especially swords, it sounded like you were hitting enemies with a club, I found combat actually better in pillars one plus you got an extra character on your team in pillars one and those characters were more interesting lol, I did beat 2 but ended up rushing it and finishing it at the 40 hour mark, put over 90 into the first one. loved pillars one :)
Very good video for everyone who wants to know more about the console version! I will try to buy it at full price, to show my support for this kind of game on consoles, but still wait probably one or two months more before I buy it to see if they fix the bigger issues of the game.
XBOX 1X Massive frame drops while in ship battle,From the very start i had a bug that made me play only(mouse control)I was force to play that way(Y)-Each time there is a glitch...Just press start and go back to the game,it will fix it-Beside the glitch,no doubt its a master piece.
Plays great on XSX.
Though at some point I felt like I did need to play PoE1 so I went back to that and surprisingly it's pretty good as well. though the same wtf do these buttons Do!? "feature" persists.
These games don't tell you anything, plus I'm not a DnD player, therefore I'm playing on super easy difficulty to sit back and enjoy the stories which I find quite enthralling
Why do you call it a CRPG is it not just a RPG. I've just never heard crpg and I'm 30 and have been playing d&d/rpg games since I was 13ish. Anyways great video man. Poe 2 is now on my radar
RPG is originally from pen and paper games. So they use 'crpg' and 'tabletop' to distinguish the two, which are obviously VERY different.
Hope Larian Studios uses this "two games in one" thing for Baldur's Gate III.
I hope not :( It's reallly hard to get the balance right. I'd gladly get one fully polished system than two lackluster ones.
Until they show any core gameplay I'm withholding any hype. DOS games are worlds away from BG2, and larian have yet to show talent at good npc writing, deeper agency or world-building. IMO they aren't the right studio, although I'm sure it'll sell gangbusters.
@Mark Lucchese Which part?
@Mark Lucchese He is right, Divinity games are good only in the turn based combat part. Everything else is mediocre or very bad. Obsidian should've made BG3.
@@lucascarneiro2499 I have to disagree here, while I think that Poe is great, and larian definitely has the experience when it comes to what we know BG to be, I think their characters are extremely basic. "Im your rugged fighter, im a mystical priest that you met randomly in the woods for some reason" is a little silly to me. If I wanted to play baldurs gate 3 that came out 10 years ago, I'd choose larian. But this is 2020 baldurs gate
My bug problem is during boarding combat sarafen just annihilates everyone between him and the enemies. Or any rangers or chanters clog the comab area up so bad your melees are useless
Have they fixed the loading times or should I just continue to play it on my PC? My PC not that great but it can play both games
They improved, and several bugs were fixed. However I have a ps4pro and SSD. I did get through the whole game and very much enjoy it, but from what I read the load times continue to be an issue for many.
@@Fextralife Thanks. It's ok playing it on Steam with game booster so far so good.
I was super exited. Then I play the game, animations not loading well, problems with the interface, bugs when trying to buy things, and a button for tutorials? A button for tutorials but not for the damn map?
Edit: and the load times
Annoying workaround to see item description from vendor: move the item into the ‘cart’ and you can view it fully before you buy
I was loving it for a few hours but it's got some very annoying bugs at the moment. Thumbstick controls don't work on stairs/narrow slopes unless you control 1 character at a time and cursor targeting/moving is randomly sending characters off in the wrong direction, sometimes off the screen completely putting me into a loading screen. I hope there's a patch soon because it's borderline broken for me. Playing Turn based mode, I'm clicking to attack an enemy 5 yards in front of me and my character turns around and walks off in the wrong direction, wasting my turn. It's literally f***ing killing me right now.
Use triangle (Y on xbox) to get a "mouse" when moving around. This allows you to go up and down slopes easily, read or interact with items, etc with much less hassle
@@Fextralife Fextralife I have been but the cursor is bugged too. Keeps sending party members off in random directions which is even more annoying
Does it have subtitles In different languages ?
Too much loading - couldn't get into these games because of that. Even on PC with a good CPU and SSD.
>Enter building
Loading screen
>Exit building
Loading screen
Just broke my immersion trying to explore these towns
@Dandelion Kev yeah, a solid state drive, as I said I already got a good one and the loading was still unbearable
It's unavoidable with heavy 2d graphics. Those very high res images have to be loaded into ram. The best they could do is dynamically load the surrounding areas, and I think the second game does have SOME loading optimisation (it's faster, but still a bit of waiting).
What are you talking about, I don't even have a ssd but leaving and entering building is about 1 sec maybe 2 sometimes. Its not long to break immersion.
@@rickycool6083 Loading times are definitely shorter on the second game, and definitely short on any smaller areas. Agreed
Bought the first one, dropped it after long load times.
Bought the second one, on day one, hoping they wouldn't do the same mistake twice.
LOL
What do you expect? It's a primarily 2d game, all those high-res graphics need to be directly loaded into ram.
@@irisdogma8174There is o reason to have that many and that long a load time for that small a cache. RDR, DarkSouls, Diablo3 Zelda... all say hello
@@DarkChrisHour Dont forget witcher 3, that game basically has no loading screen at all which is mind blowing for how big and detailed the world is.
@@DarkChrisHour Literally none of those games are 2d isometrics. I don't think you grasp how a game like this works. It loads MASSSIVE pictures in ultra-high res into ram. RDR, darksouls, diablo 3 and zelda are 3d games, they only load tiny little texture packs into ram.
@@asddap Another game that functions 100% differently to a 2d isometric.
I bought it for ps4 and im so happy it reminds me of Dragon age origins and the world is beautiful.
have you run into the loading error yet?
I bought the digital one on psn it crashed once on me
The game handles perfectly fine with a controller
Ancient Druid is really fun
hopefully updates clean the controller play
i love rpgs like these shame i only on xbox already own divinity 1 and 2 i jus cant afford to keep buying games now days :(
Seems turn-based is an added feature that mb isn't fully meant to be in poe2?
Idk, i still need to get used to it mb.
I love turn-based. But might switch poe2 to rtwp.
I liked poe1 so.
It's funny looking at all these comments in the ps5 era. Load screens? Wtf are those?
The controls are abysmal to say the least. Did not know about the Y button giving a mouse.
Was thinking of trying to get a mouse working on the xbox but I dunno if it's possible.
Am playing on an Xbox X and have had zero crashes with about 6 to 8 hours played.
Yeah, you can mouse and keyboard on xbox.
Which game would you recommend someone with this and Divinity Original Sin 2 play first?
There both great but dos2 is one of the best games ever made.
ozz I wish they brought player mods to Dos 2, that would make the game God tier.
I found divinity more difficult in battles but both games are good in turn based combat
@@Jiggydank they did bring some stuff like that to divinity
Saintlonewolf1 yes but none that added the player made classes
I'll wait for a couple of patches
You should. Right now there is a bug where all of your save files will spontaneously become corrupt without explanation, forcing you to restart from scratch without any idea whether or not it will happen again. Coupled with the load times, I'm not sure if I even want to try again, though the game itself is really fun when it isn't corrupting all of your save files.
Is this game as good as divinity OS2? That game was so good it kinda ruined all other turn based games for me haha
Nothing can come close to larians divinity
Nothing close to Divinity. The XP system is terrible, for me anyways, it makes the path too linear. I like to explore and this game doesn't let you do that. You get zero XP for defeating the enemy if it's not part of the mission you're on. Stupid. Not enough people are mad about it in my opinion. I can take loading times as long as I can explore.
You have not said much about controls, menus, etc....the most important things
RTwP games are like RTS games. They're just meant for KB+M.
Ok
I mean I agree, but the AI system in PoE2 is pretty good (to the point you barely need to do anything unless it's a tough enemy), and there's always turn based.
Felipe Pérez turned based is a thing in this game.
@@adrianjuarez1162 ofc I meant the RTwP mode. If I were to play on console I'd definitely play turn based
@Samantha Holland even fextralife in this very review suggested not bothering with RTwP if you actually want to experience the combat, only going for it if you're willing to give the reins to the AI.
Ofc theres some ppl who are going to like it anyways, that's ok not my business.
I found myself rushing to finish this game because of the loading hours...i just wanted to get it over with.
How do the game controls compare to the original Pillars of Eternity on console? I found the original game controls poorly explained and I also never mastered them until 70% of the game was complete but now that I have I am fine with it but if it's another totally different control set up....
It's a different setup and, because there are a lot more options, it was confusing to me and felt overwhelming to start. I got used to it though, so I'd say after the initial pains they are about the same as Pillars 1.
Thanks for the reply! I feared as much but I think it's going to be worth the headache for the improved graphics and the added voice lines. I have to admit there where times that the reading in POE 1 ended up getting skipped because of impatience with wanting to get on with the gameplay lol.
I will add that I hope my characters can eventually look cooler then they did in poe 1 with the mismatched gear and low res graphics. Npcs almost always looked cooler. And as shallow as it maybe, when you get an awesome new item from a badass long difficult quest you do want to look the part for that extra satisfaction, not like a crew of hobos.
I feel stupid for clicking on a sequel review video and not expecting spoilers on the first game.
GG me
I hated this game on my PS4. I never got past lvl 5. It is much better on the PS5 though. Loving it.
Im really upset, I spent $60 for a game that doesn't work. I ran into a game breaking issue. Where essentially your saves wont work. It says something along the lines of how it can't load the next map. Therefore it returns you to the main menu and if none of your saves work then you lost all of your data. This has been an issue since release it seems and has no fixes. So buyer beware I suppose.
I did not run into this issue, did you report it? Looks like a patch dropped today, with luck it assists?
@@Fextralife Sadly all I saw was that it had added two languages. I reported it yesterday night, waiting for a response now.
@@CT--hb7hs any luck?
Is there any news anyone knows of the state of Divinity Fallen Heroes?
Game is “on hold” fextralife.com/divinity-fallen-heroes-on-hold-indefinitely/
Loading time between zones aren't that bad but every house is getting ridiculous.. Also who's bright idea to put a switch for bobbleheads instead of normal heads? Can't play like that lol...
I like chocolate milk
Me too.
I also like cheese.
But I don't like cheese and chocolate milk.
cheese who gives a fuck
from when i first got it on ps4 from now it seems a lot better then it use to be with loading times and crashes
and how long is loading times on your ps4?
@@karlobasil8493 i have a pretty old one sometimes before it took 2min now it takes a min max on the worst places
@@sweetdude1001 but there are so many loading screens,even if you are in the building and you go the upper floor,there is a loading for about 25 seconds)
@@sweetdude1001you obviously not true,i played for about an hour and first loading on island is about a 52 seconds and further you are into the game,the longer they are gonna be.
I didn't win the code and I really don't dare to buy it because I think is gonna ends up in game pass. I hope it comes soon though cause I really wanna try it. Pity real time combat is not optimal with a controller cause I think is the way the game is meant to be played. The game wasn't designed for turn based like divinity and only a couple of people worked in the implementation of it into poe2. I've been reading reviews and most agreed that turn based is not fined tuned for this game.
You had me at Wheel of time...
Problem was the main quest was pretty boring while alot of the side quests were more enjoyable. I feel the stats are a problem aswell when might is used for all forms of damage when you perform the text actions it break character if you are going for a caster watching him bend bars.
True i gave most my characters high might because its so important