Always getting Injured at BJJ: Being Tough vs Getting Good
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2023
- What's the worst injury you have had at BJJ? Are you always injured but not doing any rehab? BJJ is rough on your body, ignoring injuries and taking damage on a regular basis is often a source of pride to show toughness. Constantly being injured and complaining about it without taking action to fix it is not being a warrior- it's being a victim. BJJ does reward us for being tough but not taping won't actually help you get better at the art. Neglecting to look after yourself should not be a badge of honour and there needs to be a change in BJJ culture to help you stay in the game.
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Thanks for this one gents. Former military, boxing champion, picked up BJJ way too late in life. It was very hard to wrap my mind around not being a 21 year old who can just eat the pain anymore. Learning your body's limits is important, but what's more important is that those limits shift over time. But I'm in America, so healthcare is out of the question haha. Cheers!
The one time ignored a knee and attempted to “train through it” it cause a much more serious injury that effected my knee function for life. I just wanted to keep making gains and didn’t want to take the time off. I ended up having to take way more time off than if I would have addressed it properly in the first place.
Same, suffered a minor meniscus tear back in April and didn't do anything about it for 2 months, come end of May I couldn't do anything but limp and I am only just coming back to training v cautiously now.
Meniscus tear? Did you have surgery?
@@TapsNapsSnaps no, waiting times in the UK are really severe for non lifesaving things like that rn so I thought I may as well start rehab whilst waiting which has done the job
This is definitely something I have been struggling with. After tearing my meniscus and being unable to pay for surgery (the joys of living in the US), I have really had to think hard about what I am doing. I see these old guys who take it pretty easy and never go hard, but they don’t get hurt and they are still very technical and skilled, and here I am having to put a hold on training because of my ego making me feel like I need to go too hard. But here I am. I am doing rehab and pt and working out and am improving, but am making a focus to drilling and light rolling so that I can continue on for the long run. You guys are always putting out very interesting and important topics, and I really appreciate all you guys do.
go hard sometimes and with the right people
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Guys, as an early 40s lifelong bjj guy, love the channel. BUT…
This topic connects to a previous one you did where you spoke of how BJJ “ages the body”. Ageing as something distinct from injury/damage? Finger joints wearing out? Stiffness?
From where I stand, injuries happen, I’m very careful to let them mend, rehab etc. But ageing? In my experience, BJJ is a rejuvenating activity like weights or sensible cardio. Please elaborate.
I had a slipped disc in my C5/C6 earlier this year that pinched a nerve while training. In addition to a slipped disc, scans showed thoracic outlet syndrome (compression) on my right side. I got a cortisone injection and continued to train. While my neck started to feel better from the injection, and therapy 2X a week while I continued to train, I ignored addressing or understanding how to address thoracic outlet syndrome (my other injury). Few months later that compression pinched a blood vessel leading to deep vein thrombosis (blood clotting) in my right arm. My arm started to swell over a short period of time and feel tight, and I ignored it thinking I just pulled a muscle or just overworked it. The blood clotting then created a pulmonary embolism in my left lung sending me to the emergency room. Now I'm on blood thinners and cannot train for the next 6+ months. So, yeah; Put your health and recovery first so that you can continue to train, hopefully smarter in the future.
Hey fellas, just wanted to say BJJ fanatics aren't your only fans. My background is striking, and I still love this podcast! Keep up the solid work and feel free to touch on some striking-oriented material too! Love it!
Another great and funny episode lads!
Needed to hear this
When i first started jiujitsu, I realized I had major issues dealing with claustrophobia. I would tap countless times in a single roll but I started managing my breathing better which helped me tremendously. I didnt care what my partners thought of me for tapping so much 🤷♂️
Well said gents thank you for the positive message. The community needs this emphasis on longevity, maintenance whatever you wanna call it.
Started at 42. Fell in love with it. Never imagined I’d compete or anything. Just loved the mental release it provided me. Tore my
Meniscus exactly one year in. That was 4months ago. Has been an absolute mental hell ride. Have been told I need surgery but am very much on the fence. Scared to go back to the mats after re-popping the knee twice. There is a mechanical issue. I didn’t do enough PT and regret that. Doing it now. But know I probably need a surgery. Just feel
So fucking lost. Wish I had strengthened my body before I started. I still go and watch almost every day and am doing the strengthening. I
Hope it
Works out.
How did you tear your meniscus? Was it during competitions or just sparring?
@@LeetGamingTV just sparring. I was stupid. Trying ti be as fast as a much younger guy. I pivoted too fast and two pops on the knee. Life over.
Let me know if you have surgery! I want to know how it goes and how you feel. I have had an inside meniscus tear on my knee for about 8 months. My knee doesn't lock or swell up, but it does ache like shit sometimes and I have some loss of mobility/strength. I'm in the same boat😢
@@TapsNapsSnaps It's pretty much ruined everything. I still go to class and watch and sometimes learn moves but I cannot roll at all. It's too scary now with the knee. I'm completely terrified to pop it again. I've tried rolling from situations but I can't use my legs at all. Very depressing. I am open to partial meniscectomy if I knew how much they'd remove. But they don't know until they go in - and they also say they would try a repair - which I'm more scared of. I've never heard of it working and recovery is long
Blue belt, 33 years old , doing it for 3 years now. Broke 2 fingers ( still have jersey finger) , ear damaged, 1 knee always in pain, my shoulder sucks, and today I tore my ankle😅 I have 3 kids, and my wife hates my injuries 😅
What happened to your ear??
I tap all the time in training. At the end of the day, I'm just training to learn. With that being said, I have been rolling for the past 4 weeks with bruised ribs. I feel like it just comes with the territory.
If I didn't train when injured I would never train. White belt shit is hard to survive. Took a forearm frame to the throat, had my ear half ripped off by a shitty choke attempt, currently have a fractured nose. The "I didn't tap" is only half the problem, especially at white belt. People chasing submissions that don't exist with 110% strength are the real danger. yanking a guillotine when its not tight and ripping an ear off... flailing arms around... its dangerous out there. I will say, there is not a good culture about PPE with BJJ training. We should all be wearing headgear and probably face shields.
This is a great episode, what you guys said really resonated within me. I'm 42 and tried jiu jitsu 6 times (after doing Muay thai for over a year). I pulled my groin after 4 lessons, rehabbed for a month and a half, and 2 lessons later, injured my shoulder. At this point, I said maybe this isn't for me.
What are your thoughts?
Ps - are there really people who get off on how broken they are? That's wild.
Honestly, at that level of experience, i.e. none, some or most of the blame for those injuries might be on your own shoulders. Many new people roll hard AF without any skills, which is a recipe for disaster. If you slow it down and stop trying to "win" (your goal is to LEARN), you'll be much safer.
@@troystark5961 I feel that. Both times was after practicing throws and getting thrown and landing wrong. I am a big advocate of listening to my body, but you make an excellent point - sometimes I go harder than I should.
Telling people they didn't tap early enough is a form of victim shaming. In many cases it was the other person who didn't take the safety of their sparring partner into consideration at all. For example: if I have someone's heel hooked and they try to escape incorrectly, I will release it fast enough as to not injure them.
I agree with you that people should put the safety of their training partner at the top of importance during rolling.... Your example of heel hooking and the other person trying to escape incorrectly.... Are you letting them know afterwards that they're going to hurt themselves if they try to escape that way? If not, then that may encourage/train them to do it wrong in the future against someone that won't let go in a competition or etc. and they get hurt badly.
@@mikecleo3152 yes always and in as much detail as circumstances allow.
I'd say both perspectives have validity...
Last night...
A roll with a blue belt, he tried to escape ashi while I was setting up his leg... I loosened up and verbally told him whoa whoa whoa! Bro was going to break his own leg. He didn't know better. We discussed it.
Roll with a white belt. Had him fully controlled and locked out in an armbar. I am slowly applying pressure, and my brain starts screaming 90%... 95%... and he tapped, thankfully. I got onto him a bit... Brother, what are you trying to prove? His response... I'm tough. I laughed and said, take it from an old guy, just tap when you're got... He got it. I don't want to hurt anyone, but it's all of our jobs to keep ourselves safe...
I hate putting people to sleep, but I will.
I won't break a limb, but I'll call my partner a dumbass if I have them dead to rights and they're hard-headed...
So, again... both have merit.
It's a mutual responsibility. You're responsible for not knowingly pushing your training partner into likely injury (setting aside competition) and giving progressive opportunity to respond with a tap.
Likewise, you are responsible for developing your own sense of when you're risking damage and tapping when appropriate, rather than relying on your partner to figure out how to protect you from your own ego.
It's not victim blaming (in the morally loaded sense of the phrase) to hold people responsible for refusing to fulfill that second obligation.
This is happened to me i had Rib injurys 5timez smashed knee3/4 times fingers/hip/shoulders/neck, kept asking my self why my alwsys getting injured? I was too wild had a HUGE ego never wanted to tap, went to another gym roll with a high level black belt and he told me straight away ur too wild slow down or ur gona be injuring ur self again and again get Phisio/strength training etc take it easy its not world BJJ Championships I took his advice
A couple of thoughts. First, if you're always getting injured, you're a fool. You're no better than the people that "just happen" to always be in a fight, but think it's cool. You're not tapping, you're not learning, or you're not using proper technique for posting or falling, things like that.
The other side of it is, maybe you're not treat BJJ as a self-defense martial art. You're not being cautious when in dangerous positions, you're not aware of your motion and off balancing, you're not aware of your opponents motion etc. BJJ is primarily for self-defense, if you're just wild and unaware of your surroundings, you're not doing yourself any favors and you may even lose training partners that don't want to roll with you since you could also get THEM injured. I have no respect for those people that basically just want to rough house, and then complain about it or act like "that's BJJ man". No, no it's not.