Man, yeah it really did make all the difference that they had Mei and the mother get along and enjoy each other’s company at the start so it’s not the generic “ugh I hate my mom” trope with these coming of age stories
The movie doesnt even point out that Mei hated her mom. She was overbearing, and obnoxious but Mei knows she doesnt mean harm and Mei didnt know how to communicate properly with her Mom.
@@JoNarDLoLz That everyone and their parent lol Even as an adult, it still a pain to communicate to your parent. You love them but you must crush them sadly. I have met very few people who open mined loving parent who can accept anything their parent throw at them.
It's good because often when people think of kids rebelling and gaining their identities, it's associated with bad parent/child relationships instead of a natural part of growing up. It's a healthy process even for families that get along fine.
Am I the only one who wished the father had more of a role? I liked the scene where he stops Mei from deleting the goofy panda video, and plants the seed that maybe she doesn't NEED to get rid of the panda, but other than he might as well not have been in the movie at all.
Blame Ming for not letting the poor guy talk more often, LOL. At least he had that sweet moment with Mei that eventually made her decide to keep the panda and he also quickly drew that bigass circle to help defeat Kaiju Ming. Jin is a "small role, big impact" kind of guy, I guess. Still a nice character tho. :)
Loved the dad. Never overstayed his welcome and was always there to support his family without it being a big deal. I wish he had more screentime tbh but I still think he had enough.
There was one scene in the film that I found both hilarious and heartwarming. It was where it was revealed Tyler was a 4town fan. Because, you would normally expect Mei and her friends to make fun of him or blackmail him especially after everything he put them through. Surprisingly, they didn’t. Not only are they happy but they even welcome him to the group with no argument. I guess now that they know, they have something in common so why not be friends then. It’s pretty refreshing to see something like that in animation. In fact, for a bully character, Tyler is pretty well written character. But, Im really like how pixar is starting to do these ghibli esque slice of life style movies. It actually worked out great with Luca and now this. I honestly wouldn’t mind if they do these kinds of movies for a while instead of something extravagant. But I’m still excited to check out lightyear this year.
@@TehTeh911 Exactly. So many times I've seen kids in games literally screaming and insulting each other, and then suddenly they're best friends and working together
Reminds me of a guy in my special needs classes in hs who was initially a jerk to me but eventually we became civilized with each other after I found out that he was trying to get into a child education class at a technical school (I wanted that too but my aid forced me into basic cooking) which showed me that he wasn’t as jerky as I thought. Also during my last year of ms I got on good terms with a boy that I constantly got into arguments with (seriously we were like oil and water) and almost pushed me over a second floor stair railing, after he apologized to me over swiping a hat I was wearing, earlier that same day. Turned out his “friends” pushed him into doing that and actually hated that he did so. He later on would help my case manager with finding the boy who hit me on the back with a rubber band as he saw the incident and revealed to me that some other kids were badly making fun of my dad when he showed up to chaperone a school trip while wearing a cowboy hat. (yeah I don’t get it either)
@@TehTeh911 Oh same, people being my friend one day to not the next then back again. It can break you if you let it. But thankfully I managed to find my "people" and we've been good friends for over 15 years now.
Whenever people complain about how this movie was "inappropiate" for talking honestly about period, I remember that one scene in Carrie where she thinks she is actually dying when she gets hers because she had no idea what it was. She only saw herself bleeding, which made her freak out, which made her scream for help, which caused a very traumatic bullying scene for her. On top of that, her mother punishes HER for the audacity of having a period because now she was "tainted" and all her pleas of "why didn't you tell me this could happen" were completely ignored. For Carrie's mom, periods were too gross, too disgusting and an actual sin that Carrie should have avoided to being good, therefore not worth talking to her about before she was fucking 16. There is something very wrong about this general attitude I do not like.
Carrie was too hard to watch for me, but the bathroom scene in TR vaguely reminded me of it, just Mei's mom was more understanding and not 100% overtly religious. Also, there was less bullying. Both characters were put off, scared, and confused about the red inconvenience, one had a mom who shamed her for it... the other had a mom who understood (kinda).
Ok, but like… how do you avoid that information in the modern age? I genuinely can’t even remember a time when I didn’t know about periods, it’s just such a basic knowledge thing that I don’t see how you wouldn’t find out about it even by accident. Like, that is nuclear apocalypse levels of sheltering.
Ok, a lot of people are somehow missing the almost explicitly stated metaphor, so the panda transformation is a metaphor for the messy and self expressive parts of oneself. Not just a puberty metaphor.
@@nickthepick8043 I think that's smart The controversy was entirely manufactured It was done to get videos like this and it wasn't necessary The movie is plenty good enough to have stood on its own merits
My favorite part about Turning Red was how they portray the girls' romantic/sexual awakening. SO many movies can't wait to portray teenage boys as girl-obsessed sex pests, it's refreshing to see a portrayal of "boy-crazy" that is NOT seen as inherently negative. The mother's overreaction is clearly portrayed as wrong, rightfully so.
I mean, they’re both pretty weird… why is it ‘sex pests’ when it’s boys but it’s good to be portrayed positively for girls? Like is it just that you’ve seen more extreme examples of the former because it’s more common or what?
@@kittencorp.3295 I mean, I agree that male sexuality is unnecessarily vilified, but at least it IS portrayed. Like CellSpex said, some girls aren't even TOLD about periods before they happen. (Makes me think of that scene in Anne With An E, where Anne is convinced she's dying!) You know the expression "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"? I feel female teens' sexuality is still ignored too often. Boys are at the laugh/fight stage, which is not great either, but it's better than pretending it doesn't exist... Still, both male and female sexuality is healthy and shouldn't be ignored or shamed.
@@kittencorp.3295 because of the way it's portrayed. girls being portrayed as insane and obsessive while boys are portrayed as creeps who can't live off of just a fantasy
Also I literally hate when people are mad that periods are shown to kids. Or puberty in general. Most all of my friends started puberty from 8-10 years old. That’s 3rd-5th grade. Not only did they already have their periods, they had a full chest and curves by 6th grade because puberty comes when it comes and you can’t control your genetics. I appreciate that they had Priya there as a more subtle allusion to that fact
Ive read way worse period scenes in christian books no less so they shouldnt be complaining about this movie. Its far from explicit (looking at you hunchback)
It's also worth noting that some people came from a generation in which puberty, including periods, happened later on in life. It has been documented (I say this because my mom's a pediatrician who sees this on a regular basis) that kids are starting to puberty earlier as compared to prior decades. By prior decades I mean before the 1990s. On that note, I'm curious, if I may ask, like when were your friends born?
People had the same reaction to Sydney to the Max when they made an episode about it. I don't get why that's a big deal? Periods exist. Girls have them. Population growth occurs because of periods. However, I might not recommend this movie to parents with smaller kids. Not because I think this movie is inappropriate for them, but it's just that little kids might not really get or appreciate this movie's allegories to puberty and periods and being a teenager anyways. Especially if they're too young to start puberty yet themselves and don't have a older sibling of "puberty age." All a little kid will see about this movie is a girl randomly turning into a giant red panda at best. For instance, a 5-year-old watching this movie might not fully understand or be able to relate to an average teenaged girl's problems. So that might represent some parents' concerns and complaints about this movie's "inappropriateness."
EXACTLY. People don’t realize that children are cringy, and sometimes being cringy can be fun. People just forget that they used to be middle schoolers and just can’t handle something that brings back those memories.
It (the movie) was fun. It leans a _tad_ to hard on the girl-focused perspective for me to relate to several parts of it (I might be a nerdy outcast, but I am still a guy), but it still works.
My problem with the movie is that it's SO cringey it becomes annoying. And just because you're pointing out how some kids are doesn't make it any more tolerable.
The whole movie having the words “oh crap”, “gyrating” and “drugs” was honestly a breath of fresh air, I adore this movie a lot because of that and cause the movie is cute with its visuals
"three emotionally supportive friends? did you also have a rolls royce?" GODDD I FELT THIS because i have not met a single person who actually had good friends in 8th grade
Miriam, Priya and Abby are the best, I'm so happy that Mei has real friends who love and support her no matter what, unlike poor Penny Proud, who has the fakest friends imaginable who will ditch her in a heartbeat. What were their names again? Mustard? The Swamp? Who cares, they suck! Unlike Miriam, Priya and Abby. Everyone and I mean everyone needs a Miriam, a Priya and an Abby in their lives. :)
If I'd had 3 supportive friends like this at that age I'd currently own the world. I liked the movie and the female friendship aspect was a big part of why.
Yeah my mum didn't tell me about periods until the day I woke up covered in blood and got told in minutes what a period was so I appreciate the movie so much and loved how cringe this was reminding me of my past
Did you have it before sex Ed or were you just unlucky enough to go to school where that isn't covered? Nevertheless, it really sucks that not even your own mom prepared you for this.
My guess is that the panda is not just a metaphor for female puberty but the pressure for women to hide their ugly sides and emotions in order to look appealing and presentable for society, more specifically women from the Asian community. Also “I was more into the anime music videos and Evanescence and Nightwish”; girl, SAME!
@Ali Brennan "My guess is that the panda is not just a metaphor for female puberty but the pressure for women to hide their ugly sides and emotions in order to look appealing and presentable, more specifically women from the Asian community." Then why doesn't the mother do this? Bringing pads to a school and publically shouting about them to her daughter isn't repressing herself.
@@uanime1 Depends on how you view it. In the mother‘s view, she is being a caring parent by bringing her daughter the pads because it really sucks to need pads if you don’t have any. Of course, the way she went about it was really awkward, but that’s the point: She’s a little weird too, just like Mei, but tries to channel it into something socially acceptable like being a good mother.
@@uanime1 The mom is obviously overbearing, over controlling and holding her child up to way too high standards, because thats the generational trauma of this family. The bringing pads to the school, stalking the daughter at school and embarrassing Mei Infront of her class mates was showcasing that she's overbearing and trying to control her daughter. The mom just like Mei was thought to hide her ugly side/her flaws/her anger or "the panda", In order to fulfill the expectations of being a woman (don't be emotional, especially anger and exicitment doesn't exist).
Yeah I’m a male and this movie destroyed me emotionally because I related to Mei’s constant need to live up to family expectation even if it came at the cost of my own happiness and the scene where you saw the Mom as a young girl it broke me even more to the point where my girlfriend had to cuddle me. This movie was fantastic and I had a great time with it because I was young and loved Backstreet Boys and dealt with similar themes so Pixar for me related to me despite my gender.
Saw the advertising for the movie and expected it to be extremely surface level, horribly inconsistent and poorly delivered. I am so glad that instead we got a genuinely funny, touching, well written story that managed to balance the elements of the weight of expectations and how to live a balanced life with puberty’s growing pains.
Honestly, Pixar needs to get better in marketing their movies. Aside from Lightyear, all the marketing of their recent movies made them look generic and aimed towards kids only
I wasn't looking forwards to this movie that much, but my friend managed to rope me into watching it with her and it was really fun! I know some people aren't too happy with Pixar's recent direction, but I think that both Turning Red and Luca did a really good job of telling stories on a more personal level on topics that will be more relatable to their younger audience.
I have to say im glad their back to doing oringinal work again because while I did feel like most of their sequels were good to me if you keep coming out with sequel after sequel your shafting your potential if I wanted a continuation it would be a tv show whats weird though is that I don't mind sequels to live action very much compared to animation is that weird
I adore this movie. A constant complaint I hear (that isn’t “wah wah, my kids are asking questions”) is how it’s not as “deep” as Encanto Honestly? I love that it isn’t. I love that it’s an easier digest that I can watch over and over and over. The humor is perfect for me, and I’m glad that it’s comfortable with what it is and what it wants to tell. Not everything needs to be Prince of Egypt levels of grandiose. So yeah, for me, it’s a solid 9/10
@@YightLagami It is a lot more focused because the heart of the movie is a tradition-bound mother and her more open minded daughter and how they navigate change in their relationship, rather than an emotional journey for a handful of people.
I was completely unaware that this movie had any kind of backlash until long after it came out. The worst I'd heard was that some of the characters' faces "didn't look quite Pixar", which was something also thrown at Luca a while back. So I was really surprised to suddenly start hearing about all the complaints this movie got 🤔
The most common complaint I heard was that Mei was twerking in front of her mother. That aside the response I've seen has been overwhelmingly positive.
My favorite bad review was the "too many turbans and hijabs" review. How dare the animators portray Toronto accurately!! It just be some woke plot! There's also a pretty horrifically bad review over on Fox. It's not just a bad movie it's the worst movie ever and she's going to boycott Disney because of how offensive it is! Plenty of people commenting that despite not having seen the movie they completely agree and have cancelled their Disney trips.
@@tiawilliams5690 Yeah, but she was doing that on purpose to piss Ming off and distract her long enough for the ritual circle to be prepped. Some people need to understand how context works
It occurred to me watching Turning Red that Mei never actually "gets in trouble" until the climax. That is, her mother is never mad at her, never punishes her, always assumes the best of her. I thought that was really interesting. Also, I'll say it again, my big problem with The Mitchells vs The Machines is that I just hated the dad so much, although the fact that Katie had to apologize to him was probably my main issue there (whereas in Encanto and Turning Red Mirabel and Mei didn't have to apologize), so it's kind of interesting to see people's reactions to Ming's character as opposed to other characters like Mr. Mitchell or Drac.
The mom certainly puts her in a lot of trouble (embarrassing her in front of her entire class and a crush, alienating her from friends by solely blaming them) but yeah, she isn't "in trouble" according to the mom until the finale.
The puberty angle was entirely a marketing thing Anyone who gets mad over the puberty angle is someone who probably didn't watch the movie, or went in expecting to be mad because of the marketing. People like the movie because the characters are thoughtful, many of the jokes land, and there is good work put into developing the character interactions interactions and background. Also the animation is...effective. I won't say I like the look when its standing still,, but the motion and timing is stellar This is really a movie about a family learning to control their emotions in healthy ways It's actually really easy to pick apart the puberty metaphor, it falls apart the minute you ask " wait, why does no other girl deal with this?"
*It's actually really easy to pick apart the puberty metaphor, it falls apart the minute you ask " wait, why does no other girl deal with this?"* Different people start at different ages, the typical age is 14, maybe these were tweens and the main character just started early.
@@coralmaynard4876 no one else except the main characters family deals with a red panda or other similar magical phenomena None of those ladies that DO have the magical phenomenon do what mei does, where she is obviously a d directly in control of her emotions. Which, she in turn harmonizes with said emotions and has a hybrid form at the end of the movie
YES about the animation. I was free trying Wallace and grommet vibes from the mouths of the kids, but that’s mostly from stills. In the movie I didn’t notice it at all!
I personally liked the opening. To me the opening was very nostalgic, it reminded me of those early 2000’s Disney channel shows I used to watch as a kid.
It just reminded me of how I (even as a kid that was born in 2000) would oftentimes take the cameras or camera phones we had at the time and make Super cringy videos about ourselves or the things we were doing
Seeing all these insane and overly negative reviews of the movie are honestly comical at this point: "it teaches children to disobey parents" "Kids aren't this cringy" "It's not appropriate for all ages" Yada yada yada... These reviewers are the kinds of people who see a movie and if it doesn't fit their hyper-specific expectation of what it should be, then they blow a fuse. Anyway as for my thoughts on the movie: I liked it. It's not my favorite Pixar movie but it's definitely fun, entertaining and has plenty of rewatch value.
I was really brought back to 13 when Mei Mei had it in her head that 4 Town was gonna pick them out of the crowd and Robaire was gonna propose to her on stage. It's such a 13 thing to have it in your head that you're gonna become soulmates with your inspirations.
@ABthedragon "These reviewers are the kinds of people who see a movie and if it doesn't fit their hyper-specific expectation of what it should be, then they blow a fuse." Translation: stop criticizing what I like. Seriously you're no better than them.
Man I wish I had this movie when I was in middle school. I had a hard time excepting myself during that time of my life. I think if I had a movie like this growing up, it would have really help me emotionally a lot. I don't think it would have change my life, but I think it would have help guide me in a messy point in my life.
28 year old man here, watched this one on a Friday night in with my wife. We loved it, loved the gags, the emotional beats, the references, everything. I too await the day we see a Linkin Park AMV watcher be the protagonist in something, but otherwise, great time. Deserved a theatrical release, damn it. My single complaint story/movie-wise was the way it felt like the story let that utterly hateable, piece of shit bully kid off the hook way too easily.
heh same. 22 yo male but absolutely loved it. Tyler was your typical self conscious bully and he was really bad. but i did think he made a good change. when panda mei attacked him, he was actually genuinely sorry. what i expected him to do was to "fake it" to deliberately make her look bad but by his actions i was pleasantly supprised, he learned something out real fast. i also got a feeling that his dad in particular really spoils him which could have led him into being so dang entitled like that.
@@eonbree8593 agreed with you but also agreed with the original comment. Tyler still got off the hook too easily. The fact that they just became friends with him just because he was a 4Townie was just weird to me
What hook? He's a cringy kid, not that different from all the other kids in the film. Sure he bullies Mei Mei but you also get the sense that he's lonely (because he says something like "no one will come to my party, but everyone will come if the panda is there"). He's just another example of the complicated social cringe teens go through. Anyway, he's definitely not a disney villain that deserves to fall off a tower or get stabbed with a boat.
@@carlotta4th I’m not saying anything else bad needed to happen to him. If we never saw him again after the party I’d have been just fine. If we needed to see any more of him, I’d have accepted a not-under-duress apology scene. But the fact that the girls are so willing to make him part of their friend group over a shared interest like that just didn’t sit right with me. I’m just one person sharing an opinion here, I acknowledge. But I don’t think I’m alone in thinking that when someone was crappy to me, whatever the reason, the kindest thing they could ever do is first apologize, then leave me the hell alone. And he did worse to Mei than any of my bullies did to me.
Turning Red is an instant classic for me. I actually enjoyed this more than Luca and Soul, I mean I certainly liked those two but something about Turning Red just hits different. I haven’t enjoyed a Pixar movie this much for awhile. It’s no Coco, but I think it’s highly enjoyable.
As a straight Black male. I related to the spending less time with my parents for friends, particularly my mom. The look of sadness on Ming when Mei was supposed to be at Math-letes. Reminded me of a time my mom picked me up from school to rent movies. I had planned to play D&D with friends that afternoon. She smiled and said it was fine. But the look on her face as she drove away haunted me the rest of the evening. I believe Turning Red will make kids aware of how hard this time can be for a parent. They dedicated time and effort to raise, feed and cloth you. They also saw to your happiness and entertainment. Suddenly you don't want to spent time with them. It's natural to pull away. But after over 13 years of bending their schedule to make sure you were sought-after. It's hard to just let go. P.S. I made a point to try to spend time with my mom. Maybe not as much as before but enough to make happy. To cheer her up.
My dad is an immigrant from Uzbekistan and he loved this movie. To him, he related very strongly to Mei's mother (his own father was an immigrant from Afghanistan and pushed him *hard*), and while he was never as strict as Ming was, he felt she was a good representation of the fears of letting your parents down transforming into accidentally putting pressure on your kid. He loved that Mei and Ming love one another so much, and said that was what he hoped to have with his kids as they grew up. And yes, it's about a girl and her mom, but my dad and I saw a lot of parallels to our father-son relationship - because, ultimately, girls aren't unrelatable, weird, unfathomable creatures. They're people, and people's stories move other people.
Or Panini..or Amy Rose...or Tootie...or the Kanker Sisters...or Pucca if anyone remembers that show. Seriously there has been a MASSIVE double standard in kids' media when it comes to girl characters with crushes. Good thing this trope pretty much died off after the 2000s.
Can we just talk about her dad being the bestest guy ever? That scene when he talks to Mei and shows her the video clips of her with her friends was just absolutely lovely
Right! I'm still hooked on every track! 4Town songs are just as catchy as real life boyband songs too. They really captured the sound of popular music in the early 2000s in a lot of ways. Gonna have to unironically buy this score.
I laughed my ass off with this movie, whoever has an issue or feels "offended" must had experienced the same upbringing as Mei's mother and that's why they're lashing out
I work at a store that sells a few Turning Red toys and products, and I’ve seen boys and girls of all ages loving it! (And even getting upset when we sell out….😅) So I definitely believe kids of all ages can enjoy it!
I wish the parents actually spoke cantonese or mandarin in this movie. As a Canadian asian, me and many of my friends have a hard time communicating with parents clearly because of the language barrier. In this movie the language barrier just doesn't exist and the parents speak english all the time. It would have been cool if Mei spoke in english to her friends, and Chinese to her mom. I know it would be harder for children to understand who can't read, but it would be a lot more realistic. Many people who speak the same first language as their parents don't understand the struggle bilingual families have to go through
It is interesting as two different scenes stand out in this regard. The first where Mei and Ming are watching TV and the characters on the TV are not speaking English. It seems Mei can understand some of the dialogue at least. But with the second scene where she is in the circle and her family is chanting, she asks what they are saying as if she does not understand the language at all. It could be that she is not necessarily proficient in the Language.
@@Jandypoptvstars I think the show they were watching had English subtitles Edited: Recently rewatched the movie, there wasn't any English subtitles in the show, my mistake
Honestly I loved it. I honestly related so much to Mei and her mother's relationship, but even I felt that it was a little too close to home. That scene where Ming finds Mei's notebook gave me flashbacks, man.
I have one problem (not with this movie, with me and movies): I can't watch likeable character getting publicly humiliated. IDK, it just gets to me. I'm fragile like that. So I won't re-watch this movie anytime soon, it's kinda exhausting for me. With that said, this is a great movie, and I'm proud of Pixar for tackling such a hard subject, knowing dang well that they will face controversy for it. Respect dudes.
I too am one of those people that simply cannot tolerate excessive cringe or second-hand embarassment. I can watch gore or violence and not even blink, but cringe? I have turned off movies or shows half way through or skipped entire scenes because I couldn't stand it.
@@hurricaneofcats I usually pause movie and do something else for few minutes (most movies I watch on PC), but this seriously extends run time so recently I put x1,5 speed if possible and try powering through.
Yes, i was hoping you would cover this film sooner or later CellSpex! i loved Turned Red. especially because it was one of the few Pixar films to cover the topic of mature things like puberty!
Are you being sarcastic when calling puberty a mature topic? Because literal children have puberty all the time. It’s not a mature topic. And Pixar has covered midlife crises, parenting, discrimination, the meaning of life and death. Mature topics is not out of the ordinary at all
@@Historybuff-mx4dv I didn’t think they were sarcastic. I thought they actually thought that puberty is more mature than suicide. The sarcasm statement was meant to emphasize my disbelief
One thing I love about Turning Red is the way it treats boy bands and the fandom culture around certain bands. There are a lot of satirical and not so joking takes on toxic fandom culture and how crazy fan girls are in media. Which, yes, these things absolutely exist and should be addressed. However I feel like most media that talks it neglects to mention the good sides of fandom culture. How it can open you to a whole new community of like-minded people, bring you to some of the best friends you’d ever have, and strengthen your existing friendships. How the guys and their music bring joy to their fans. It hypes you up when you’re at your highest peek and comfort you when you’re at your lowest. So many people just lump boy band fans together and mock them as crazy fan girls without stopping to think why they chose to be in this fandom, and why they’re so supportive/defensive for these men. Beyond showing a different side of fangirl culture, it’s also very good for the movie’s plot. We needed to understand and respect her love of 4Town to care about the plot. And it would have been to easy to go the other way. The writers could’ve just had 4Town be the inciting incident and focused it’s time on the actual characters. But they made a point of tying the band, specifically their music and fan-girls, to Mei’s emotional arc. Whether she’s emotional distressed from her panda, planning a business venture with her friends, or finally standing up to her mom, 4Town is by her side, motivating her and helping her. Plus, their song is just awesome. PS: While I get your point about how PG-13 has basically no meaning nowadays, I still think it’s unfair for these parents to have reacted the way they did. These writers shouldn’t have to receive backlash because other people are careless with the ratings. It’s like that one parent who took the kids to see Deadpool because “iTs A sUpErHeRo MoViE” and got mad when it lived up to its rating. Just because you wrongly assumed this would be a completely G movie does not mean others need to pay for your mistake. Like, it’s a box of pads. Your kid’s probably already seen one in your bathroom. This is literally the tamest way they could possibly breach this discussion. I don’t think they even mentioned it by name.
The one moment in this Pixar movie where I was crying my eyes out is when they show Mei Lee's mom as a teenager crying out, "I'm sick of being perfect." That got to me because I can relate. Even as a kid, I was a perfectionist; thinking that in order to please myself, I have to please everyone else. Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to ease up on myself and be grateful for what I have accomplished in life instead of just focusing on what I don't have.
Thank you for reminding that not all movies need to be relatable. There's really an overemphasis of relatability in the current age, and I feel this is so detrimental, because it robs people from the opportunity of seeing new perspectives. Relatability does have its place, but there should place for other factors as well.
I know, right? I wish that there aee more stories that can show that but alas, its like relatability is the most upmost importance and that there are no other way seeing it. Yes its good to be relatable, but stories can be more than that. It can be inspiring, it can give a whole new take on certain stuff. Hoping in the future, there are more stories like that
Something I absolutely love is that the movie didn't go for the constantly used "I hate my parents" cliche in most of these movies, and expressed that Mei does love and get along with her parents, especially her mom, but that doesn't mean that there aren't problems, and it doesn't mean that said problems should just be shoved aside out of the fear of ruining a good relationship. It's so refreshing.
I cannot believe how much I remember from this movie and saw Mei and her friends. Encanto made me cry. Turning Red got me nostalgic in the best way possible.
Am I the only one who is just glad that the urban-fantasy/modern-magical adventure story DIDN'T take place in New York City? Seriously, it's about damn time. The fact that it's my nearest city of Toronto is just the icing on top.
I also wasn't into boy bands. But the way the "fandom" was presented was both relatable and respectful. I remember how passionate I was at that age and it was pretty similar. The way it also isn't really a punchline was really nice. Yeah a lot of things I really loved at that age were super dumb and did not stand the test of time. But at that age the thing you love are so important. I could tell you the name of every person in every band I loved at that age. Every band they'd been in and every song on every album. Hunting down slightly different versions of songs was definitely a thing. In this sure her mother doesn't get it but the boy band and the fans' passion comes together to save the day. I can appreciate that even without ever being a fan of a boyband.
I’m just gonna say it’s so funny that everything has to be “relatable” nowadays 😂 c’mon we all grew up enjoying media with characters that didn’t look like us and living situations that were not even close to our realities and we still loved them
CellSpex I really appreciate you putting your sponsorship ads at the front of your video. It's so much better than being pulled out of a video halfway through for an ad break, and makes your videos more engaging because of it!
12:49 I didn’t realize I wasn’t the only one who rolls around on the floor in physical and mental pain at the terrible thing that is happening to my body. It’s so terrible, I’m just- so annoyed that this exists at all.
It's very important for parents to have the puberty talk with their children. My mom worked as a school nurse for a while and she remembers having to console and explain things to an eleven-year-old girl who thought she was dying when she saw blood.
Is there literally anything that doesn’t offend parents?? As a childfree person it sure as hell seems like it. Also the thing about the Rolls Royce got me 🤣
One time I saw a review for Minecraft that complained how the animals don't wear clothes Let me repeat how the *animals, that you kill and cook and Farm and breed,* *don't wear clothes*
I personally loved the movie. I was 12 in 2002 and the jokes about the boyband made me laugh since I related to the movie in that way. IMO, the reaction to the period discussion is a massive overreaction.
Was glad to see a little trouncing of what “Brave” did. In terms of mother/daughter transformation-related films, “Turning Red” delivered in ways “Brave” didn’t even come close to. I will admit, the scene where she’s throwing herself around the room, I got where they were going with that, but also that frustration Mei expresses through so much of the film, I felt it was well conveyed. Plus, the idea that it’s her family that says this is bad, but almost everyone she knows just thinks the panda is cool (like when the girls are watching the boys play basketball, it looked like a few were trying to impress her). I felt it has been a long, long time since a Pixar film entertained me like this (maybe not since…WALL-E, or Toy Story 3!), and some of the apprehensions I had about Domee Shi (I felt her short Bao was good but not quite great), were blown away. Plus, I probably have seen the film several dozen tomes by now, and want the Blu-Ray to hear what they say on the audio commentary. To me, this feels like one of the first steps into the Next Generation at Pixar, making me hope they’ll bring about more emotionally-personal stuff from people who grew up on Pixar, and can do things with the tools and storytelling that the last generation maybe never considered.
I like some of the references that you wouldn’t know unless you were into anime. Like when Mei was jumping towards the concert one frame definitely was a reference to the movie “the girl that weeps through time“. Also the aunties transformation definitely felt familiar then realized it was from the Ultraman series
I found this pretty relatable. I came from a mom who was a very strict Christian (no spice girls or TLC, no clothing trends, hell, I wasn’t even allowed to you public transit!) and I got a long with her still and wanted her approval. At this age I wanted to branch out and discovered more about myself that I knew my mother wouldn’t approve. Today she still doesn’t approve of my choices in life but we set boundaries and it’s a little better. A little. I live far, far away now.
It is SO important for young girls to be informed and prepared for their period when it comes. Heck, it seriously isn't even that hard. Just tell them what's gonna happen, explain _why_ as best as you can, and tell them how pads work. That's it. I feel very lucky because I went to an elementary school where they took this shit seriously. In the 5th grade, I remember they separated girls and boys into private talking groups in the library to give presentations about what puberty would be like. For me and the other girls, they discussed periods and pads in a gentle and clear way, no fancy metaphors or cover-ups, and I will forever appreciate that. They even accepted any questions we had, which we had the option to write anonymously. When mine emerged a year or two later (when my mom wasn't home, poor dad XD), I knew exactly what to do. Parents need to do the EXACT same for their kids, or they could be in for trauma that is EASILY avoidable.
All of the stuff with the red panda element was well done. Not just for the subject matter, but also for all the creativity in the visuals, like the expressions, movements, and details in the fur. Plus, the scenes that take place in the 'spirit realm' (sorry if that's the incorrect term for it) were powerful moments, such as Mei deciding to maintain her panda form and encountering the younger version of her mom. That, and of course her pep talk with her dad. It's certainly another hit for Pixar in my book.
Honestly, I loved this movie, especially the way it tackled periods! It wasn't even that big of a thing and most of it was nice stuff, like Mei's friends offering her pads when they come to her bedroom window, and the mom being fully supportive and saying that it's a normal thing! Also I personally found the jokes they made about it to be funny as well, because they weren't put in the movie to make fun of women, but to give them something to laugh at and relate to. I felt really noticed when Mei was starting to rebel, and I know she wasn't directly rebelling to the fact that she always has to get good grades and be perfect, but I always feel worthless when I get anything less than a 100 on a test or assignment. I was born in 2007 so most of the early 2000s nostalgia didn't really hit home for me, but I still found joy in seeing the way everything was. I've never obsessed with a boy band, but I have obsessed with other things that I'd beg my parents to take me to, (hence my pfp, my current thing I want to do is to go see Beetlejuice the Musical in the spring this year!) Overall great movie and great message and film! Definitely an S tier in my ranking!
I'm a 68-year-old man, and I liked it. I also have a daughter who was in middle school in 2002. I think the real intended audience for this movie is Millennials who were young teens in 2002 and are parents to young teens today. It directly reminds them of the awkward conflicts of their own lives at that time, and warns them to start having the conversations with their children that they wished their parents had had with them. Jin: "What has your mother told your about her panda?" Mei: "Nothing." And that is the whole point of the movie.
I enjoyed Turning Red. It was a fun early 2000's nostalgia trip with some really fun characters, jokes and themes. Even when you have parents who have always been supportive of you and your interests, it can still be hard to disagree with them sometimes.
I remember watching the teaser where Ming comes to the school and then being so much more shocked when the film showed me that they cut out the part where she talks about her pads. I know I would've been mortified had that happened to me at Mei's age lmao
Honestly, as a girl who was never talked with about periods and puberty (besides my mother asking once if my period had started a few months before it actually did), it's pretty nice to hear a movie talk about it. It should be a normal and calm part of life, even though it's awkward. A movie sparking discussion is a good thing, and if a kid is old enough to ask about puberty, it should be discussed
This is one of my favorite animated movies I've seen in such a long time. Even just the anime-inspired visual style blew my mind...but then on top of that there was a hilarious and emotional, grounded story about growing up?! So wonderful!! So unfair that this movie got flooded with hate and controversary. I never expected Pixar to make something so different, but I hope this creative team gets much more work like this in the future. 🥰
as a certified Cis Straight White Male™, I liked this movie. it has amazing animation and incredible comedy especially, the story is not amazing, but still good, and characters act in realistic and understandable ways, even if they were sometimes in the wrong or awkward. I didn't find it very relatable, but that doesn't mean I can't like it. also the period stuff didn't feel awkward or shocking to me in the slightest, and I really don't get how this had so much backlash well, I get how, but it shouldn't have
This is probably my favorite Pixar film. It has a constant evolving self-ironic tone that makes it easy to digest any scene beyond the surface level information being presented. The level of quality in editing and animation and what they felt compelled to go out of their way to animate even when it wasn't vital to the plot or tone or scenes is just staggering. The plot is very abstract because of how much the conflicts are presented as comically heightened reality in tone, so I don't understand when people say the plot is simple or formulaic. Same with Luca, I think Luca is more boring moment to moment, but that story is not a simple formulaic plot. It is insanely self aware that the quest to get. AVespa is silly and childish and not really important, the tone is never presenting the surface level plot as serious, so the actual story being told is much more abstract, it's about an analysis of childhood and understanding why the kids perceive their reality in this way. Same with Turning Red, is takes its plot a bit more seriously than Luca but at the end of the day, most of the run time lacks a clear conflict or is otherwise about kids wanting to see a boy band concert. It presents its conflict as whimsical and not that serious, the real story is not so surface level.
I kinda relate to this movie because I’m an adolescent. One big thing for me however, was how mei not being allowed to go to a concert because of her red panda reminded me of how I have tics(which are triggered by loud noises). When mei’s mom says “you’ll panda all over the place.”, It instantly unlocked a memory where my mom got me out of cheerleading because of my tics and how loud the music is during competitions. Every demographic can relate to this somehow and that’s why it’s such a masterpiece in my opinion.
I've never understood "relatability" as the be-all, end-all of judging if something is good. The 'relatable' parts of this movie are the parts I like the least, because they remind me of how cringe I was at this age. Meanwhile there's wizards and gods and superheroes and monsters in media that I have nothing in common with whom I still love and empathize with.
maybe i’m just emotional, but this movie HIT me, and I know all pixar movies make people cry, however THIS movie really sucker punched me in the gut. The end scene where young Ming confesses how she feels, and when Mei is finally excepting who she is without being ashamed…as a high schooler who grew up as a girl, it just made me feel so seen. I know a lot of people hated this movie, or thought it was predictable or average, but to all the full grown men who watched this movie and disliked it, respectfully, it just wasn’t for you. I for one am so glad there’s a movie about being an awkward teenage girl that isn’t the typically disney channel “I’m not like other girls”laugh track type deals. This movie was real and emotional and heartfelt and beautiful. I loved it.
I've seen various clips of this movie. It's one of those films I respect more than I like. The characters are fine (Abby, Pryia, and Jin are easily the best characters), the animation is decent, and it's cool how it understands teenagers, captures my birth year pretty well, and captures puberty as best as it can. But at the same time, it's just..not my thing. And that's ok.
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 I'm not saying I don't like Turning Red. I do like certain aspects of it. It's just not on the whole something that I love. Like I said I respect it more than I like it. Also, I don't have Disney +
My mom never had "the period talk" with me. I learned about it from my cousin that started having hers a couple years before I did. When my first one started at school, during gym class, my cousin was the one I went to for a pad. My biggest problem with this movie was the fact that Tyler, who has been a huge jerk to Mei throughout the movie, is just added to their friend group because "He likes the same music as us, so he's ok now even though he's always been a horrible person to us before". As if liking the same music group erases all his previous behavior.
I was at first wary of ANOTHER animated film about a person of color being turned into a creature for most of the runtime. But after sitting down to watch Turning Red, I really enjoyed it! Character designs were cute, characters were relatable, humor landed for me, the climax was fun, and the themes of growing up and generational trauma were solid.
As a mom of a wee bean (under 10) I can say that it was harder to explain to wee bean about why Mei was so embarrassed when Ming showed her pictures than what pads are for. It didn’t even register. Which btw never happened to me but omg it is the worst/best 2nd hand embarrassment ever in a movie. It is like entertainment’s equivalent of 😱.
Honestly i could’ve really used this movie as a kid going through puberty and I’m sure many young teens will see this movie and feel like a lot of kids will relate to this
THANK YOU. I have had to defend this movie SO MANY TIMES since it came out and I swear you are the ONLY other person I've seen who actually understood it.
I liked Turning Red. It's not Pixar's best movie, but it was a fun and relatable. It's also a very relatable movie for me as a Canadian born in the early 2000s and been a teenaged girl before. So that's a little bonus nostalgic vibe! lol The Toronto culture was accurate too. 🍁🍁🍁
From my perspective, the movie was okay. I'd watch it with a kid without feeling trapped, but I wouldn't seek it out often. My biggest complaint was that some of the jokes didn't land, and the panda metaphor was a bit too muddled for my liking. But that's fine! It's respectable as a film and I think it's a good direction for the normalization of periods and young women in media.
I sm happy that so many people can enjoy and relate to this movie, but I'm in the "it's just not for me" group. Teenage/middle school awkwardness is really hard to sit through for me, especially if it is a big character point.
I sat down to watch this with my wife and youngest (15). Youngest cringed out after a few minutes, never came back. My wife and I finished it and both really liked it. The messages came across as pretty straightforward without being completely anvilicious, and were good messages to boot.
Man, yeah it really did make all the difference that they had Mei and the mother get along and enjoy each other’s company at the start so it’s not the generic “ugh I hate my mom” trope with these coming of age stories
HOLY SHIT TC96 DAMN I REMEMBER YOU FROM THE UNDERTALE YEARS HI YOUR COOL
The movie doesnt even point out that Mei hated her mom. She was overbearing, and obnoxious but Mei knows she doesnt mean harm and Mei didnt know how to communicate properly with her Mom.
@@JoNarDLoLz That everyone and their parent lol Even as an adult, it still a pain to communicate to your parent. You love them but you must crush them sadly. I have met very few people who open mined loving parent who can accept anything their parent throw at them.
It's good because often when people think of kids rebelling and gaining their identities, it's associated with bad parent/child relationships instead of a natural part of growing up. It's a healthy process even for families that get along fine.
Really refreshing 😌
To be honest, when I watched the film I thought the lesson was: “It’s good to honor your family, but you also need to honor yourself too.”
Same
I saw it as "Honoring your parents and doing everything they want is not the same thing."
@@alyssaagnew4147 that works too.
Yeah, it's literally said at the beginning of the movie. Not even a little unclear
@@thetinykid4169 oh ok
Am I the only one who wished the father had more of a role? I liked the scene where he stops Mei from deleting the goofy panda video, and plants the seed that maybe she doesn't NEED to get rid of the panda, but other than he might as well not have been in the movie at all.
Blame Ming for not letting the poor guy talk more often, LOL. At least he had that sweet moment with Mei that eventually made her decide to keep the panda and he also quickly drew that bigass circle to help defeat Kaiju Ming. Jin is a "small role, big impact" kind of guy, I guess. Still a nice character tho. :)
Loved the dad. Never overstayed his welcome and was always there to support his family without it being a big deal. I wish he had more screentime tbh but I still think he had enough.
I felt the same way. It also would've been nice if he was someone who was willing to put his foot down towards Ming's toxic behaviour.
I loved the subtle, slightly scared reactions of the father throughout the movie (and the cooking sequence), and I'd really miss those as well.
l loved him stealing the donut and dancing to Mei's 4 town CD.
There was one scene in the film that I found both hilarious and heartwarming. It was where it was revealed Tyler was a 4town fan. Because, you would normally expect Mei and her friends to make fun of him or blackmail him especially after everything he put them through. Surprisingly, they didn’t. Not only are they happy but they even welcome him to the group with no argument. I guess now that they know, they have something in common so why not be friends then. It’s pretty refreshing to see something like that in animation. In fact, for a bully character, Tyler is pretty well written character.
But, Im really like how pixar is starting to do these ghibli esque slice of life style movies. It actually worked out great with Luca and now this. I honestly wouldn’t mind if they do these kinds of movies for a while instead of something extravagant. But I’m still excited to check out lightyear this year.
Not to mention kids can flip so fast from enemies to friends. I've definitely had it happen in my life so many times, in both directions.
@@TehTeh911 Exactly. So many times I've seen kids in games literally screaming and insulting each other, and then suddenly they're best friends and working together
Reminds me of a guy in my special needs classes in hs who was initially a jerk to me but eventually we became civilized with each other after I found out that he was trying to get into a child education class at a technical school (I wanted that too but my aid forced me into basic cooking) which showed me that he wasn’t as jerky as I thought. Also during my last year of ms I got on good terms with a boy that I constantly got into arguments with (seriously we were like oil and water) and almost pushed me over a second floor stair railing, after he apologized to me over swiping a hat I was wearing, earlier that same day. Turned out his “friends” pushed him into doing that and actually hated that he did so. He later on would help my case manager with finding the boy who hit me on the back with a rubber band as he saw the incident and revealed to me that some other kids were badly making fun of my dad when he showed up to chaperone a school trip while wearing a cowboy hat. (yeah I don’t get it either)
@@TehTeh911 Oh same, people being my friend one day to not the next then back again. It can break you if you let it. But thankfully I managed to find my "people" and we've been good friends for over 15 years now.
@@BrightWulph - Me and my bff will be at 30 years in about three years from now.
Whenever people complain about how this movie was "inappropiate" for talking honestly about period, I remember that one scene in Carrie where she thinks she is actually dying when she gets hers because she had no idea what it was. She only saw herself bleeding, which made her freak out, which made her scream for help, which caused a very traumatic bullying scene for her. On top of that, her mother punishes HER for the audacity of having a period because now she was "tainted" and all her pleas of "why didn't you tell me this could happen" were completely ignored. For Carrie's mom, periods were too gross, too disgusting and an actual sin that Carrie should have avoided to being good, therefore not worth talking to her about before she was fucking 16.
There is something very wrong about this general attitude I do not like.
Carrie was too hard to watch for me, but the bathroom scene in TR vaguely reminded me of it, just Mei's mom was more understanding and not 100% overtly religious. Also, there was less bullying.
Both characters were put off, scared, and confused about the red inconvenience, one had a mom who shamed her for it... the other had a mom who understood (kinda).
@@roxassora2706 I think her stress was more at mei's age, because she thought it would take a little longer and wasn't mentally prepared
Imagine hating something that supports the life inside a human woman
@@leahdavis9434 Even if it was the age she expected it's still stressful af
Ok, but like… how do you avoid that information in the modern age? I genuinely can’t even remember a time when I didn’t know about periods, it’s just such a basic knowledge thing that I don’t see how you wouldn’t find out about it even by accident. Like, that is nuclear apocalypse levels of sheltering.
Ok, a lot of people are somehow missing the almost explicitly stated metaphor, so the panda transformation is a metaphor for the messy and self expressive parts of oneself. Not just a puberty metaphor.
Yeah, the puberty angle is entirely a marketing employee
That is something that usually emerges from someone during puberty though
Well put. CellSpex does touch on this at the end though.
As far as I'm concerned, there wasn't any controversy surrounding this film. I don't pay attention to that shit anymore.
@@nickthepick8043 I think that's smart
The controversy was entirely manufactured
It was done to get videos like this and it wasn't necessary
The movie is plenty good enough to have stood on its own merits
My favorite part about Turning Red was how they portray the girls' romantic/sexual awakening. SO many movies can't wait to portray teenage boys as girl-obsessed sex pests, it's refreshing to see a portrayal of "boy-crazy" that is NOT seen as inherently negative. The mother's overreaction is clearly portrayed as wrong, rightfully so.
I mean, they’re both pretty weird… why is it ‘sex pests’ when it’s boys but it’s good to be portrayed positively for girls? Like is it just that you’ve seen more extreme examples of the former because it’s more common or what?
@@kittencorp.3295 I mean, I agree that male sexuality is unnecessarily vilified, but at least it IS portrayed. Like CellSpex said, some girls aren't even TOLD about periods before they happen. (Makes me think of that scene in Anne With An E, where Anne is convinced she's dying!)
You know the expression "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"? I feel female teens' sexuality is still ignored too often. Boys are at the laugh/fight stage, which is not great either, but it's better than pretending it doesn't exist...
Still, both male and female sexuality is healthy and shouldn't be ignored or shamed.
Sailor Moon does that too.^^
@@kittencorp.3295 I mean, various anime, the aforementioned Sandlot, sometimes comic books where the main character is a teenage boy. May we go on?
@@kittencorp.3295 because of the way it's portrayed. girls being portrayed as insane and obsessive while boys are portrayed as creeps who can't live off of just a fantasy
Also I literally hate when people are mad that periods are shown to kids. Or puberty in general. Most all of my friends started puberty from 8-10 years old. That’s 3rd-5th grade. Not only did they already have their periods, they had a full chest and curves by 6th grade because puberty comes when it comes and you can’t control your genetics. I appreciate that they had Priya there as a more subtle allusion to that fact
Ive read way worse period scenes in christian books no less so they shouldnt be complaining about this movie. Its far from explicit (looking at you hunchback)
It's also worth noting that some people came from a generation in which puberty, including periods, happened later on in life. It has been documented (I say this because my mom's a pediatrician who sees this on a regular basis) that kids are starting to puberty earlier as compared to prior decades.
By prior decades I mean before the 1990s.
On that note, I'm curious, if I may ask, like when were your friends born?
I started my period in fourth grade myself, and yeah it’s annoying
@@lollivee6770 very annoying
People had the same reaction to Sydney to the Max when they made an episode about it. I don't get why that's a big deal? Periods exist. Girls have them. Population growth occurs because of periods.
However, I might not recommend this movie to parents with smaller kids. Not because I think this movie is inappropriate for them, but it's just that little kids might not really get or appreciate this movie's allegories to puberty and periods and being a teenager anyways. Especially if they're too young to start puberty yet themselves and don't have a older sibling of "puberty age." All a little kid will see about this movie is a girl randomly turning into a giant red panda at best. For instance, a 5-year-old watching this movie might not fully understand or be able to relate to an average teenaged girl's problems. So that might represent some parents' concerns and complaints about this movie's "inappropriateness."
Some people don’t seem to reliase that cringe is a part of being a kid, I enjoyed this film and thought it was fun.
EXACTLY. People don’t realize that children are cringy, and sometimes being cringy can be fun. People just forget that they used to be middle schoolers and just can’t handle something that brings back those memories.
It (the movie) was fun. It leans a _tad_ to hard on the girl-focused perspective for me to relate to several parts of it (I might be a nerdy outcast, but I am still a guy), but it still works.
Yeah. If you didn’t love boy bands, guaranteed you were a super *cringe* fan of something else! And that’s okay!
Cringing is fun
My problem with the movie is that it's SO cringey it becomes annoying. And just because you're pointing out how some kids are doesn't make it any more tolerable.
The whole movie having the words “oh crap”, “gyrating” and “drugs” was honestly a breath of fresh air, I adore this movie a lot because of that and cause the movie is cute with its visuals
Don't forget when Abby was complaining about her parents saying no to the 4-town concert and she said they called it "stripper music"
"three emotionally supportive friends? did you also have a rolls royce?" GODDD I FELT THIS because i have not met a single person who actually had good friends in 8th grade
Right? Like most socially awkward people don't have friends this close until college at best.
Miriam, Priya and Abby are the best, I'm so happy that Mei has real friends who love and support her no matter what, unlike poor Penny Proud, who has the fakest friends imaginable who will ditch her in a heartbeat. What were their names again? Mustard? The Swamp? Who cares, they suck! Unlike Miriam, Priya and Abby. Everyone and I mean everyone needs a Miriam, a Priya and an Abby in their lives. :)
If I'd had 3 supportive friends like this at that age I'd currently own the world. I liked the movie and the female friendship aspect was a big part of why.
I had a lot of supportive friends but parents who loved me? Can’t relate.
I had one and everyone accused us of being lesbains for it. Her mom stopped letting her hang out with me over that...
The soft spoken dad talking about the recording of her with her friends had me on the verge. So simple, I think you look happy here
Yeah my mum didn't tell me about periods until the day I woke up covered in blood and got told in minutes what a period was so I appreciate the movie so much and loved how cringe this was reminding me of my past
Did you have it before sex Ed or were you just unlucky enough to go to school where that isn't covered? Nevertheless, it really sucks that not even your own mom prepared you for this.
My mom was in the bathroom with me when the peony bloomed.
@@roxassora2706 that's sad :(
@@Cottontailart How? She didn't shame me, she just happened to be there. Also, hers was very irregular.
@@Cottontailart Actually, not being told sounds worse. Though I have the privilege of ignorance here.
My guess is that the panda is not just a metaphor for female puberty but the pressure for women to hide their ugly sides and emotions in order to look appealing and presentable for society, more specifically women from the Asian community.
Also “I was more into the anime music videos and Evanescence and Nightwish”; girl, SAME!
Thank you! This is exactly what I’m trying to explain to my friends
@Ali Brennan
"My guess is that the panda is not just a metaphor for female puberty but the pressure for women to hide their ugly sides and emotions in order to look appealing and presentable, more specifically women from the Asian community."
Then why doesn't the mother do this? Bringing pads to a school and publically shouting about them to her daughter isn't repressing herself.
@@uanime1
Depends on how you view it. In the mother‘s view, she is being a caring parent by bringing her daughter the pads because it really sucks to need pads if you don’t have any. Of course, the way she went about it was really awkward, but that’s the point: She’s a little weird too, just like Mei, but tries to channel it into something socially acceptable like being a good mother.
@@uanime1 because she’s a Karen, basically
@@uanime1 The mom is obviously overbearing, over controlling and holding her child up to way too high standards, because thats the generational trauma of this family. The bringing pads to the school, stalking the daughter at school and embarrassing Mei Infront of her class mates was showcasing that she's overbearing and trying to control her daughter. The mom just like Mei was thought to hide her ugly side/her flaws/her anger or "the panda", In order to fulfill the expectations of being a woman (don't be emotional, especially anger and exicitment doesn't exist).
Yeah I’m a male and this movie destroyed me emotionally because I related to Mei’s constant need to live up to family expectation even if it came at the cost of my own happiness and the scene where you saw the Mom as a young girl it broke me even more to the point where my girlfriend had to cuddle me. This movie was fantastic and I had a great time with it because I was young and loved Backstreet Boys and dealt with similar themes so Pixar for me related to me despite my gender.
❤
Saw the advertising for the movie and expected it to be extremely surface level, horribly inconsistent and poorly delivered. I am so glad that instead we got a genuinely funny, touching, well written story that managed to balance the elements of the weight of expectations and how to live a balanced life with puberty’s growing pains.
same
It was what you said first though
@@Kristenkore coming up with all that just from the trailer alone? Ridiculous
Honestly, Pixar needs to get better in marketing their movies. Aside from Lightyear, all the marketing of their recent movies made them look generic and aimed towards kids only
@@joeyjerry1586 so you want them to spoil the meat of the movie? Nice
I wasn't looking forwards to this movie that much, but my friend managed to rope me into watching it with her and it was really fun! I know some people aren't too happy with Pixar's recent direction, but I think that both Turning Red and Luca did a really good job of telling stories on a more personal level on topics that will be more relatable to their younger audience.
I have to say im glad their back to doing oringinal work again because while I did feel like most of their sequels were good to me if you keep coming out with sequel after sequel your shafting your potential if I wanted a continuation it would be a tv show whats weird though is that I don't mind sequels to live action very much compared to animation is that weird
I adore this movie. A constant complaint I hear (that isn’t “wah wah, my kids are asking questions”) is how it’s not as “deep” as Encanto
Honestly? I love that it isn’t. I love that it’s an easier digest that I can watch over and over and over.
The humor is perfect for me, and I’m glad that it’s comfortable with what it is and what it wants to tell. Not everything needs to be Prince of Egypt levels of grandiose. So yeah, for me, it’s a solid 9/10
Pretty sad that most games/movies need to have deep lore and tragic backstorys to be successful
Ironically, I think Turning Red is actually deeper and much more personal than Encanto's narrative.
@@YightLagami It is a lot more focused because the heart of the movie is a tradition-bound mother and her more open minded daughter and how they navigate change in their relationship, rather than an emotional journey for a handful of people.
Both are good. Even though I prefer Encanto (fantasy fan and musical fan; I’m obligated to pick it), Turning Red has just as much depth and nuance.
I was completely unaware that this movie had any kind of backlash until long after it came out. The worst I'd heard was that some of the characters' faces "didn't look quite Pixar", which was something also thrown at Luca a while back. So I was really surprised to suddenly start hearing about all the complaints this movie got 🤔
I wish I was in the boat that you were in...it got Ridiciously bad really quitly.
The most common complaint I heard was that Mei was twerking in front of her mother. That aside the response I've seen has been overwhelmingly positive.
My favorite bad review was the "too many turbans and hijabs" review. How dare the animators portray Toronto accurately!! It just be some woke plot!
There's also a pretty horrifically bad review over on Fox. It's not just a bad movie it's the worst movie ever and she's going to boycott Disney because of how offensive it is! Plenty of people commenting that despite not having seen the movie they completely agree and have cancelled their Disney trips.
@@tiawilliams5690 Yeah, but she was doing that on purpose to piss Ming off and distract her long enough for the ritual circle to be prepped. Some people need to understand how context works
anything isn't ''pixar worthy'' until it is
It occurred to me watching Turning Red that Mei never actually "gets in trouble" until the climax. That is, her mother is never mad at her, never punishes her, always assumes the best of her. I thought that was really interesting.
Also, I'll say it again, my big problem with The Mitchells vs The Machines is that I just hated the dad so much, although the fact that Katie had to apologize to him was probably my main issue there (whereas in Encanto and Turning Red Mirabel and Mei didn't have to apologize), so it's kind of interesting to see people's reactions to Ming's character as opposed to other characters like Mr. Mitchell or Drac.
The mom certainly puts her in a lot of trouble (embarrassing her in front of her entire class and a crush, alienating her from friends by solely blaming them) but yeah, she isn't "in trouble" according to the mom until the finale.
The puberty angle was entirely a marketing thing
Anyone who gets mad over the puberty angle is someone who probably didn't watch the movie, or went in expecting to be mad because of the marketing.
People like the movie because the characters are thoughtful, many of the jokes land, and there is good work put into developing the character interactions interactions and background. Also the animation is...effective.
I won't say I like the look when its standing still,, but the motion and timing is stellar
This is really a movie about a family learning to control their emotions in healthy ways
It's actually really easy to pick apart the puberty metaphor, it falls apart the minute you ask " wait, why does no other girl deal with this?"
*It's actually really easy to pick apart the puberty metaphor, it falls apart the minute you ask " wait, why does no other girl deal with this?"*
Different people start at different ages, the typical age is 14, maybe these were tweens and the main character just started early.
@@coralmaynard4876 That’s true. I remember starting puberty at either 12 or 13.
@@coralmaynard4876 no one else except the main characters family deals with a red panda or other similar magical phenomena
None of those ladies that DO have the magical phenomenon do what mei does, where she is obviously a d directly in control of her emotions. Which, she in turn harmonizes with said emotions and has a hybrid form at the end of the movie
Well it's not about the other girls. It's about her.
YES about the animation. I was free trying Wallace and grommet vibes from the mouths of the kids, but that’s mostly from stills. In the movie I didn’t notice it at all!
I personally liked the opening. To me the opening was very nostalgic, it reminded me of those early 2000’s Disney channel shows I used to watch as a kid.
Same. An explosion of personality.
I loved it to!!
Was just like a lizzie mcguire episode I love it!
It just reminded me of how I (even as a kid that was born in 2000) would oftentimes take the cameras or camera phones we had at the time and make Super cringy videos about ourselves or the things we were doing
I found it a liiiiiiittle too over the top. Great apart from that.
Seeing all these insane and overly negative reviews of the movie are honestly comical at this point:
"it teaches children to disobey parents"
"Kids aren't this cringy"
"It's not appropriate for all ages"
Yada yada yada...
These reviewers are the kinds of people who see a movie and if it doesn't fit their hyper-specific expectation of what it should be, then they blow a fuse.
Anyway as for my thoughts on the movie: I liked it. It's not my favorite Pixar movie but it's definitely fun, entertaining and has plenty of rewatch value.
THANK YOU! Exactly what I think! ;)
These people have never spoken or had meaningful interactions with a child ever
@@asprinjuice425 These people don't know what children are, period.
I was really brought back to 13 when Mei Mei had it in her head that 4 Town was gonna pick them out of the crowd and Robaire was gonna propose to her on stage. It's such a 13 thing to have it in your head that you're gonna become soulmates with your inspirations.
@ABthedragon
"These reviewers are the kinds of people who see a movie and if it doesn't fit their hyper-specific expectation of what it should be, then they blow a fuse."
Translation: stop criticizing what I like. Seriously you're no better than them.
Man I wish I had this movie when I was in middle school. I had a hard time excepting myself during that time of my life. I think if I had a movie like this growing up, it would have really help me emotionally a lot. I don't think it would have change my life, but I think it would have help guide me in a messy point in my life.
28 year old man here, watched this one on a Friday night in with my wife. We loved it, loved the gags, the emotional beats, the references, everything. I too await the day we see a Linkin Park AMV watcher be the protagonist in something, but otherwise, great time. Deserved a theatrical release, damn it.
My single complaint story/movie-wise was the way it felt like the story let that utterly hateable, piece of shit bully kid off the hook way too easily.
heh same. 22 yo male but absolutely loved it.
Tyler was your typical self conscious bully and he was really bad. but i did think he made a good change.
when panda mei attacked him, he was actually genuinely sorry. what i expected him to do was to "fake it" to deliberately make her look bad but by his actions i was pleasantly supprised, he learned something out real fast.
i also got a feeling that his dad in particular really spoils him which could have led him into being so dang entitled like that.
@@eonbree8593 agreed with you but also agreed with the original comment. Tyler still got off the hook too easily. The fact that they just became friends with him just because he was a 4Townie was just weird to me
What hook? He's a cringy kid, not that different from all the other kids in the film. Sure he bullies Mei Mei but you also get the sense that he's lonely (because he says something like "no one will come to my party, but everyone will come if the panda is there"). He's just another example of the complicated social cringe teens go through.
Anyway, he's definitely not a disney villain that deserves to fall off a tower or get stabbed with a boat.
@@carlotta4th I’m not saying anything else bad needed to happen to him. If we never saw him again after the party I’d have been just fine. If we needed to see any more of him, I’d have accepted a not-under-duress apology scene. But the fact that the girls are so willing to make him part of their friend group over a shared interest like that just didn’t sit right with me.
I’m just one person sharing an opinion here, I acknowledge. But I don’t think I’m alone in thinking that when someone was crappy to me, whatever the reason, the kindest thing they could ever do is first apologize, then leave me the hell alone. And he did worse to Mei than any of my bullies did to me.
Turning Red is an instant classic for me. I actually enjoyed this more than Luca and Soul, I mean I certainly liked those two but something about Turning Red just hits different. I haven’t enjoyed a Pixar movie this much for awhile. It’s no Coco, but I think it’s highly enjoyable.
As a straight Black male. I related to the spending less time with my parents for friends, particularly my mom. The look of sadness on Ming when Mei was supposed to be at Math-letes.
Reminded me of a time my mom picked me up from school to rent movies. I had planned to play D&D with friends that afternoon. She smiled and said it was fine. But the look on her face as she drove away haunted me the rest of the evening.
I believe Turning Red will make kids aware of how hard this time can be for a parent. They dedicated time and effort to raise, feed and cloth you. They also saw to your happiness and entertainment. Suddenly you don't want to spent time with them. It's natural to pull away. But after over 13 years of bending their schedule to make sure you were sought-after. It's hard to just let go.
P.S. I made a point to try to spend time with my mom. Maybe not as much as before but enough to make happy. To cheer her up.
it relates to both
My dad is an immigrant from Uzbekistan and he loved this movie. To him, he related very strongly to Mei's mother (his own father was an immigrant from Afghanistan and pushed him *hard*), and while he was never as strict as Ming was, he felt she was a good representation of the fears of letting your parents down transforming into accidentally putting pressure on your kid. He loved that Mei and Ming love one another so much, and said that was what he hoped to have with his kids as they grew up. And yes, it's about a girl and her mom, but my dad and I saw a lot of parallels to our father-son relationship - because, ultimately, girls aren't unrelatable, weird, unfathomable creatures. They're people, and people's stories move other people.
For the people who think Mei's crush is too problematic for animation I only have two words:
Helga Pataki.
Or Panini..or Amy Rose...or Tootie...or the Kanker Sisters...or Pucca if anyone remembers that show.
Seriously there has been a MASSIVE double standard in kids' media when it comes to girl characters with crushes. Good thing this trope pretty much died off after the 2000s.
Ok but I LOVED Pucca growing up. That show was hilarious.
Tomoko from Watamote
Can we just talk about her dad being the bestest guy ever? That scene when he talks to Mei and shows her the video clips of her with her friends was just absolutely lovely
the soundtrack for this movie is so fire. they killed it with the “new jack flow”
Right! I'm still hooked on every track! 4Town songs are just as catchy as real life boyband songs too. They really captured the sound of popular music in the early 2000s in a lot of ways. Gonna have to unironically buy this score.
I laughed my ass off with this movie, whoever has an issue or feels "offended" must had experienced the same upbringing as Mei's mother and that's why they're lashing out
I work at a store that sells a few Turning Red toys and products, and I’ve seen boys and girls of all ages loving it! (And even getting upset when we sell out….😅) So I definitely believe kids of all ages can enjoy it!
I wish the parents actually spoke cantonese or mandarin in this movie. As a Canadian asian, me and many of my friends have a hard time communicating with parents clearly because of the language barrier. In this movie the language barrier just doesn't exist and the parents speak english all the time. It would have been cool if Mei spoke in english to her friends, and Chinese to her mom. I know it would be harder for children to understand who can't read, but it would be a lot more realistic. Many people who speak the same first language as their parents don't understand the struggle bilingual families have to go through
It is interesting as two different scenes stand out in this regard.
The first where Mei and Ming are watching TV and the characters on the TV are not speaking English. It seems Mei can understand some of the dialogue at least.
But with the second scene where she is in the circle and her family is chanting, she asks what they are saying as if she does not understand the language at all.
It could be that she is not necessarily proficient in the Language.
@@Jandypoptvstars I think the show they were watching had English subtitles
Edited: Recently rewatched the movie, there wasn't any English subtitles in the show, my mistake
Honestly I loved it. I honestly related so much to Mei and her mother's relationship, but even I felt that it was a little too close to home. That scene where Ming finds Mei's notebook gave me flashbacks, man.
“It is NOT a kids movie. It is animated and rated PG”
Words of wisdom there Brad😁🤩
I have one problem (not with this movie, with me and movies): I can't watch likeable character getting publicly humiliated. IDK, it just gets to me. I'm fragile like that. So I won't re-watch this movie anytime soon, it's kinda exhausting for me.
With that said, this is a great movie, and I'm proud of Pixar for tackling such a hard subject, knowing dang well that they will face controversy for it. Respect dudes.
Secondhand embarrassment sucks
I too am one of those people that simply cannot tolerate excessive cringe or second-hand embarassment. I can watch gore or violence and not even blink, but cringe? I have turned off movies or shows half way through or skipped entire scenes because I couldn't stand it.
@@hurricaneofcats I usually pause movie and do something else for few minutes (most movies I watch on PC), but this seriously extends run time so recently I put x1,5 speed if possible and try powering through.
Yes, i was hoping you would cover this film sooner or later CellSpex! i loved Turned Red. especially because it was one of the few Pixar films to cover the topic of mature things like puberty!
Are you being sarcastic when calling puberty a mature topic? Because literal children have puberty all the time. It’s not a mature topic. And Pixar has covered midlife crises, parenting, discrimination, the meaning of life and death. Mature topics is not out of the ordinary at all
@@theshire9173 And you just automatically think they are being sarcastic because?
@@Historybuff-mx4dv I didn’t think they were sarcastic. I thought they actually thought that puberty is more mature than suicide. The sarcasm statement was meant to emphasize my disbelief
One thing I love about Turning Red is the way it treats boy bands and the fandom culture around certain bands. There are a lot of satirical and not so joking takes on toxic fandom culture and how crazy fan girls are in media. Which, yes, these things absolutely exist and should be addressed. However I feel like most media that talks it neglects to mention the good sides of fandom culture. How it can open you to a whole new community of like-minded people, bring you to some of the best friends you’d ever have, and strengthen your existing friendships. How the guys and their music bring joy to their fans. It hypes you up when you’re at your highest peek and comfort you when you’re at your lowest. So many people just lump boy band fans together and mock them as crazy fan girls without stopping to think why they chose to be in this fandom, and why they’re so supportive/defensive for these men.
Beyond showing a different side of fangirl culture, it’s also very good for the movie’s plot. We needed to understand and respect her love of 4Town to care about the plot. And it would have been to easy to go the other way. The writers could’ve just had 4Town be the inciting incident and focused it’s time on the actual characters. But they made a point of tying the band, specifically their music and fan-girls, to Mei’s emotional arc. Whether she’s emotional distressed from her panda, planning a business venture with her friends, or finally standing up to her mom, 4Town is by her side, motivating her and helping her.
Plus, their song is just awesome.
PS: While I get your point about how PG-13 has basically no meaning nowadays, I still think it’s unfair for these parents to have reacted the way they did. These writers shouldn’t have to receive backlash because other people are careless with the ratings. It’s like that one parent who took the kids to see Deadpool because “iTs A sUpErHeRo MoViE” and got mad when it lived up to its rating. Just because you wrongly assumed this would be a completely G movie does not mean others need to pay for your mistake.
Like, it’s a box of pads. Your kid’s probably already seen one in your bathroom. This is literally the tamest way they could possibly breach this discussion. I don’t think they even mentioned it by name.
as a 30-year-old straight man, this movie definitely was not made for me, but i LOVED it. I cried just seeing how supportive all the friends were
The one moment in this Pixar movie where I was crying my eyes out is when they show Mei Lee's mom as a teenager crying out, "I'm sick of being perfect." That got to me because I can relate. Even as a kid, I was a perfectionist; thinking that in order to please myself, I have to please everyone else. Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to ease up on myself and be grateful for what I have accomplished in life instead of just focusing on what I don't have.
Thank you for reminding that not all movies need to be relatable. There's really an overemphasis of relatability in the current age, and I feel this is so detrimental, because it robs people from the opportunity of seeing new perspectives. Relatability does have its place, but there should place for other factors as well.
I know, right? I wish that there aee more stories that can show that but alas, its like relatability is the most upmost importance and that there are no other way seeing it. Yes its good to be relatable, but stories can be more than that. It can be inspiring, it can give a whole new take on certain stuff. Hoping in the future, there are more stories like that
Something I absolutely love is that the movie didn't go for the constantly used "I hate my parents" cliche in most of these movies, and expressed that Mei does love and get along with her parents, especially her mom, but that doesn't mean that there aren't problems, and it doesn't mean that said problems should just be shoved aside out of the fear of ruining a good relationship.
It's so refreshing.
I cannot believe how much I remember from this movie and saw Mei and her friends.
Encanto made me cry. Turning Red got me nostalgic in the best way possible.
Honestly I didn't love turning red but the scene of ming trying to hide her drawings was the most relatable scene from any film I've ever seen
Am I the only one who is just glad that the urban-fantasy/modern-magical adventure story DIDN'T take place in New York City? Seriously, it's about damn time. The fact that it's my nearest city of Toronto is just the icing on top.
Women when men make nostalgic things for themselves: ok
Men when women make nostalgic things for themselves: _PATHETIC._
I also wasn't into boy bands. But the way the "fandom" was presented was both relatable and respectful. I remember how passionate I was at that age and it was pretty similar. The way it also isn't really a punchline was really nice. Yeah a lot of things I really loved at that age were super dumb and did not stand the test of time. But at that age the thing you love are so important. I could tell you the name of every person in every band I loved at that age. Every band they'd been in and every song on every album. Hunting down slightly different versions of songs was definitely a thing.
In this sure her mother doesn't get it but the boy band and the fans' passion comes together to save the day. I can appreciate that even without ever being a fan of a boyband.
I’m just gonna say it’s so funny that everything has to be “relatable” nowadays 😂 c’mon we all grew up enjoying media with characters that didn’t look like us and living situations that were not even close to our realities and we still loved them
CellSpex I really appreciate you putting your sponsorship ads at the front of your video. It's so much better than being pulled out of a video halfway through for an ad break, and makes your videos more engaging because of it!
12:49 I didn’t realize I wasn’t the only one who rolls around on the floor in physical and mental pain at the terrible thing that is happening to my body. It’s so terrible, I’m just- so annoyed that this exists at all.
It's very important for parents to have the puberty talk with their children. My mom worked as a school nurse for a while and she remembers having to console and explain things to an eleven-year-old girl who thought she was dying when she saw blood.
Is there literally anything that doesn’t offend parents?? As a childfree person it sure as hell seems like it.
Also the thing about the Rolls Royce got me 🤣
I’ll tell you what doesn’t offend parents: Nothing.
One time I saw a review for Minecraft that complained how the animals don't wear clothes
Let me repeat how the *animals, that you kill and cook and Farm and breed,* *don't wear clothes*
"my playlist was composed of anime music videos set to Evanescence and Nightwish!" I'm dying! 😂😂 Thank you for this gem!
I personally loved the movie. I was 12 in 2002 and the jokes about the boyband made me laugh since I related to the movie in that way.
IMO, the reaction to the period discussion is a massive overreaction.
Was glad to see a little trouncing of what “Brave” did. In terms of mother/daughter transformation-related films, “Turning Red” delivered in ways “Brave” didn’t even come close to.
I will admit, the scene where she’s throwing herself around the room, I got where they were going with that, but also that frustration Mei expresses through so much of the film, I felt it was well conveyed.
Plus, the idea that it’s her family that says this is bad, but almost everyone she knows just thinks the panda is cool (like when the girls are watching the boys play basketball, it looked like a few were trying to impress her).
I felt it has been a long, long time since a Pixar film entertained me like this (maybe not since…WALL-E, or Toy Story 3!), and some of the apprehensions I had about Domee Shi (I felt her short Bao was good but not quite great), were blown away. Plus, I probably have seen the film several dozen tomes by now, and want the Blu-Ray to hear what they say on the audio commentary.
To me, this feels like one of the first steps into the Next Generation at Pixar, making me hope they’ll bring about more emotionally-personal stuff from people who grew up on Pixar, and can do things with the tools and storytelling that the last generation maybe never considered.
I like some of the references that you wouldn’t know unless you were into anime. Like when Mei was jumping towards the concert one frame definitely was a reference to the movie “the girl that weeps through time“. Also the aunties transformation definitely felt familiar then realized it was from the Ultraman series
I found this pretty relatable. I came from a mom who was a very strict Christian (no spice girls or TLC, no clothing trends, hell, I wasn’t even allowed to you public transit!) and I got a long with her still and wanted her approval. At this age I wanted to branch out and discovered more about myself that I knew my mother wouldn’t approve. Today she still doesn’t approve of my choices in life but we set boundaries and it’s a little better. A little. I live far, far away now.
It is SO important for young girls to be informed and prepared for their period when it comes. Heck, it seriously isn't even that hard. Just tell them what's gonna happen, explain _why_ as best as you can, and tell them how pads work. That's it.
I feel very lucky because I went to an elementary school where they took this shit seriously. In the 5th grade, I remember they separated girls and boys into private talking groups in the library to give presentations about what puberty would be like. For me and the other girls, they discussed periods and pads in a gentle and clear way, no fancy metaphors or cover-ups, and I will forever appreciate that. They even accepted any questions we had, which we had the option to write anonymously. When mine emerged a year or two later (when my mom wasn't home, poor dad XD), I knew exactly what to do. Parents need to do the EXACT same for their kids, or they could be in for trauma that is EASILY avoidable.
All of the stuff with the red panda element was well done. Not just for the subject matter, but also for all the creativity in the visuals, like the expressions, movements, and details in the fur.
Plus, the scenes that take place in the 'spirit realm' (sorry if that's the incorrect term for it) were powerful moments, such as Mei deciding to maintain her panda form and encountering the younger version of her mom. That, and of course her pep talk with her dad. It's certainly another hit for Pixar in my book.
Honestly, I loved this movie, especially the way it tackled periods! It wasn't even that big of a thing and most of it was nice stuff, like Mei's friends offering her pads when they come to her bedroom window, and the mom being fully supportive and saying that it's a normal thing! Also I personally found the jokes they made about it to be funny as well, because they weren't put in the movie to make fun of women, but to give them something to laugh at and relate to. I felt really noticed when Mei was starting to rebel, and I know she wasn't directly rebelling to the fact that she always has to get good grades and be perfect, but I always feel worthless when I get anything less than a 100 on a test or assignment. I was born in 2007 so most of the early 2000s nostalgia didn't really hit home for me, but I still found joy in seeing the way everything was. I've never obsessed with a boy band, but I have obsessed with other things that I'd beg my parents to take me to, (hence my pfp, my current thing I want to do is to go see Beetlejuice the Musical in the spring this year!) Overall great movie and great message and film! Definitely an S tier in my ranking!
Of course, the film's greatest tragedy is that it got sent to the Disney+ meat grinder rather than light-year.
I'm a 68-year-old man, and I liked it. I also have a daughter who was in middle school in 2002.
I think the real intended audience for this movie is Millennials who were young teens in 2002 and are parents to young teens today. It directly reminds them of the awkward conflicts of their own lives at that time, and warns them to start having the conversations with their children that they wished their parents had had with them.
Jin: "What has your mother told your about her panda?"
Mei: "Nothing."
And that is the whole point of the movie.
Definitely didn’t expect to see a hello fresh sponsor from this channel, but I definitely welcome it .
It's nice that no one's talking about "my panda my choice" part at the end.
I had no idea what periods were when I first got mine at the age of 8. I thought I was dying. I wish I had a movie like this when I was younger.
I enjoyed Turning Red. It was a fun early 2000's nostalgia trip with some really fun characters, jokes and themes. Even when you have parents who have always been supportive of you and your interests, it can still be hard to disagree with them sometimes.
12:50 - I had the exact same thought when I first saw this scene, lol. I have definitely been writhing and lamenting "WHY? WHY?" on bad cramp days
Even if not every girl can relate to Mei there's a lot to relate to, for me personally it was her drawings
Wasn’t expecting this video to feature both a hand reveal and an SAO abridged reference
Common sense media is the perfect place for unintentional comedy.
I really think more should be made of that amazing heart-to-heart scene between Mei Lin and her dad. That was unexpected and quite frankly wonderful.
I remember watching the teaser where Ming comes to the school and then being so much more shocked when the film showed me that they cut out the part where she talks about her pads. I know I would've been mortified had that happened to me at Mei's age lmao
Honestly, as a girl who was never talked with about periods and puberty (besides my mother asking once if my period had started a few months before it actually did), it's pretty nice to hear a movie talk about it. It should be a normal and calm part of life, even though it's awkward. A movie sparking discussion is a good thing, and if a kid is old enough to ask about puberty, it should be discussed
Woody's laugh in the "Why don't I get someone else to watch the sheepp tonight" scene is just phenominal.
This is one of my favorite animated movies I've seen in such a long time. Even just the anime-inspired visual style blew my mind...but then on top of that there was a hilarious and emotional, grounded story about growing up?! So wonderful!! So unfair that this movie got flooded with hate and controversary. I never expected Pixar to make something so different, but I hope this creative team gets much more work like this in the future. 🥰
as a certified Cis Straight White Male™, I liked this movie.
it has amazing animation and incredible comedy especially, the story is not amazing, but still good, and characters act in realistic and understandable ways, even if they were sometimes in the wrong or awkward. I didn't find it very relatable, but that doesn't mean I can't like it.
also the period stuff didn't feel awkward or shocking to me in the slightest, and I really don't get how this had so much backlash
well, I get how, but it shouldn't have
I hate how people always bash others for having emotions. Being sad isn’t weakness. Being angry isn’t weakness.
This is probably my favorite Pixar film. It has a constant evolving self-ironic tone that makes it easy to digest any scene beyond the surface level information being presented. The level of quality in editing and animation and what they felt compelled to go out of their way to animate even when it wasn't vital to the plot or tone or scenes is just staggering. The plot is very abstract because of how much the conflicts are presented as comically heightened reality in tone, so I don't understand when people say the plot is simple or formulaic. Same with Luca, I think Luca is more boring moment to moment, but that story is not a simple formulaic plot. It is insanely self aware that the quest to get. AVespa is silly and childish and not really important, the tone is never presenting the surface level plot as serious, so the actual story being told is much more abstract, it's about an analysis of childhood and understanding why the kids perceive their reality in this way. Same with Turning Red, is takes its plot a bit more seriously than Luca but at the end of the day, most of the run time lacks a clear conflict or is otherwise about kids wanting to see a boy band concert. It presents its conflict as whimsical and not that serious, the real story is not so surface level.
I kinda relate to this movie because I’m an adolescent. One big thing for me however, was how mei not being allowed to go to a concert because of her red panda reminded me of how I have tics(which are triggered by loud noises). When mei’s mom says “you’ll panda all over the place.”, It instantly unlocked a memory where my mom got me out of cheerleading because of my tics and how loud the music is during competitions. Every demographic can relate to this somehow and that’s why it’s such a masterpiece in my opinion.
I've never understood "relatability" as the be-all, end-all of judging if something is good. The 'relatable' parts of this movie are the parts I like the least, because they remind me of how cringe I was at this age. Meanwhile there's wizards and gods and superheroes and monsters in media that I have nothing in common with whom I still love and empathize with.
maybe i’m just emotional, but this movie HIT me, and I know all pixar movies make people cry, however THIS movie really sucker punched me in the gut. The end scene where young Ming confesses how she feels, and when Mei is finally excepting who she is without being ashamed…as a high schooler who grew up as a girl, it just made me feel so seen.
I know a lot of people hated this movie, or thought it was predictable or average, but to all the full grown men who watched this movie and disliked it, respectfully, it just wasn’t for you.
I for one am so glad there’s a movie about being an awkward teenage girl that isn’t the typically disney channel “I’m not like other girls”laugh track type deals. This movie was real and emotional and heartfelt and beautiful.
I loved it.
I've seen various clips of this movie. It's one of those films I respect more than I like. The characters are fine (Abby, Pryia, and Jin are easily the best characters), the animation is decent, and it's cool how it understands teenagers, captures my birth year pretty well, and captures puberty as best as it can. But at the same time, it's just..not my thing. And that's ok.
You're saying you don't like a movie you've never seen
@@thepinkestpigglet7529 I'm not saying I don't like Turning Red. I do like certain aspects of it. It's just not on the whole something that I love. Like I said I respect it more than I like it. Also, I don't have Disney +
My three-year old daughter enjoyed it, it's visually appealing. For me it was fun. Really want to show it again to her whem she's older
My mom never had "the period talk" with me. I learned about it from my cousin that started having hers a couple years before I did. When my first one started at school, during gym class, my cousin was the one I went to for a pad.
My biggest problem with this movie was the fact that Tyler, who has been a huge jerk to Mei throughout the movie, is just added to their friend group because "He likes the same music as us, so he's ok now even though he's always been a horrible person to us before". As if liking the same music group erases all his previous behavior.
I was at first wary of ANOTHER animated film about a person of color being turned into a creature for most of the runtime. But after sitting down to watch Turning Red, I really enjoyed it! Character designs were cute, characters were relatable, humor landed for me, the climax was fun, and the themes of growing up and generational trauma were solid.
As a mom of a wee bean (under 10) I can say that it was harder to explain to wee bean about why Mei was so embarrassed when Ming showed her pictures than what pads are for. It didn’t even register. Which btw never happened to me but omg it is the worst/best 2nd hand embarrassment ever in a movie. It is like entertainment’s equivalent of 😱.
i would have left town that same night
Honestly i could’ve really used this movie as a kid going through puberty and I’m sure many young teens will see this movie and feel like a lot of kids will relate to this
There is barely anything about periods in this movie lol
"Oh no! This movie showed boxes of pads like twice for 2 seconds each time, what a disaster!"
THANK YOU. I have had to defend this movie SO MANY TIMES since it came out and I swear you are the ONLY other person I've seen who actually understood it.
please review kipo and the age of wonderbeasts. it’s criminally underrated and marks a new era of animated series out of japan.
“3 emotionally supportive friends, did you also have a Rolls-Royce?” Felt that
I liked Turning Red. It's not Pixar's best movie, but it was a fun and relatable. It's also a very relatable movie for me as a Canadian born in the early 2000s and been a teenaged girl before. So that's a little bonus nostalgic vibe! lol The Toronto culture was accurate too. 🍁🍁🍁
13:33 What are we, back in the 50's? It's just like when they were saying super hero comics encourage kids to rebel and disobey parents...
From my perspective, the movie was okay. I'd watch it with a kid without feeling trapped, but I wouldn't seek it out often. My biggest complaint was that some of the jokes didn't land, and the panda metaphor was a bit too muddled for my liking. But that's fine! It's respectable as a film and I think it's a good direction for the normalization of periods and young women in media.
I sm happy that so many people can enjoy and relate to this movie, but I'm in the "it's just not for me" group. Teenage/middle school awkwardness is really hard to sit through for me, especially if it is a big character point.
i had to pause at 11:43
THE DISNEY PRINCESSES ARE TEENAGERS???? my entire life, i thought they were all like 20+
I sat down to watch this with my wife and youngest (15). Youngest cringed out after a few minutes, never came back. My wife and I finished it and both really liked it. The messages came across as pretty straightforward without being completely anvilicious, and were good messages to boot.
As an eleven year old, this movie is my second favourite movie
It’s a good one! What’s your first favorite?
@@ladykatie8204 mitchells vs machines
@@pokeinator7834 ooh that’s a good one too
@@ladykatie8204 thanks
8:16 the expressions in that scene were brilliant