☆ Last IBA Engineering Announcements on ITV | 17 May 1983

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  • Опубліковано 2 вер 2015
  • From the www.transdiffusion.org/ archives...
    The ten minute gap between TV-am finishing at 9.15am and ITV proper starting at 9.25am is about to be closed up by British Telecom. Because of this, the IBA's engineering announcements programme has to move from ITV over on to Channel 4/S4C. This is their last ITV broadcast.

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  • @krisstarring
    @krisstarring 3 роки тому +7

    Man, I love the early Central start up music. Pure 80s gold!

  • @ceefaxbbctv8788
    @ceefaxbbctv8788 Рік тому +4

    TV gold! What a beautiful piece of history. Thanks so much for the video.

  • @97channel
    @97channel 3 роки тому +15

    I love how the IBA break professionalism and have a dig at TV-am.

    • @robertcomer2767
      @robertcomer2767 2 роки тому +1

      Shame they didn't revoke TV-am's licence seeing what an utter shambles it was. Although they'd never have the balls to do so.

    • @krisstarring
      @krisstarring Рік тому +3

      @@robertcomer2767 Ironically, it was the IBA's replacement, the "light touch" regulator ITC that gave TV-am the boot, the same kind of light touch regulator the likes of Bruce Gyngell lobbied for. Apparently the ITC was still somewhat concerned about quality, even while letting in a cheap skeleton crew operation like Carlton get their foot in the ITV door.

  • @liammustapha6643
    @liammustapha6643 7 років тому +24

    I've just acquired the original off air recordings of engineering announcements from the Ofcom archives ranging from May 1983 to 1990! I'm loving them and watching them!

    • @tomhekker
      @tomhekker 7 років тому +4

      Liam Mustapha Nice! Any chance of uploading them?

    • @liammustapha6643
      @liammustapha6643 7 років тому +8

      I just may be, @tomhekker ! I'll be making a new channel soon as soon as I get the Panasonic AG-7750, I'll be converting them with some adjusting to the TBC!

    • @igorszamaszow171
      @igorszamaszow171 3 роки тому +1

      If you just like me came across this comment and you all like 'hey Liam, where's your channel', well, there it is:
      ua-cam.com/channels/6oDtfnkkKgYKk0BId3f38w.html

    • @liammustapha6643
      @liammustapha6643 3 роки тому +7

      @@igorszamaszow171 Haha, thanks for linking that. You may have noticed I haven't uploaded in a very long time! I haven't run out of tapes or lost interest, I've just been very busy with real life stuffs and I'm starting university in September! There will be more classic IBA goodness for your enjoyment soon!

    • @mubd1234
      @mubd1234 3 роки тому

      @@liammustapha6643 you're doing God's work

  • @CaptainSiCo
    @CaptainSiCo 9 років тому +6

    This was the final week that Central did not network an ITV Schools slide at 9.28. From the following week, Monday 23rd May, the slides returned. This now makes more sense as switching changes were obviously taking place with Engineering Announcements moving to Channel Four.

  • @antster1983
    @antster1983 9 років тому +7

    Transmitted Tuesday 17 May 1983. I was 4 days old!

  • @2001JamesTV
    @2001JamesTV 9 років тому +11

    Notice there is a picture roll after TV-am ends, so presumably there must have been yet another switch to the engineering announcements coming from somewhere else (Crawley Court?).

  • @darryllharden9141
    @darryllharden9141 5 років тому +4

    Also it was the last time the classical Gilbert and Sullivan music was used there for their theme one week before Francis Monkman's Current Affairs took over as the regular theme tune.And made one brief appearance on their final programme at the very end on July 31st 1990.

  • @antster1983
    @antster1983 7 років тому +5

    3:17 John Lovell proving the IBA have a sense of humour where they need to show it.

  • @PhilReynoldsLondonGeek
    @PhilReynoldsLondonGeek 8 років тому +8

    The announcements were of course already on Channel 4 (since at least 9/11/82, if not 2/11/82) and S4C (since 2/11/82). However, there were parts of many regions that had no 4th channel reception at the time.

    • @PhilReynoldsLondonGeek
      @PhilReynoldsLondonGeek 8 років тому +1

      Not easily without someone finding the relevant broadcasts. I was watching the edition on 26/10/82 as it was a school holiday, and there was an announcement about S4C and Channel 4 then. As for the areas without reception, that is well known - the transmitter network was not completed until 1987.

  • @moramento22
    @moramento22 6 років тому +11

    0:12 We all want to be left alone with our hemoroids...

  • @antster1983
    @antster1983 7 років тому +3

    Starting with a trailer for the last episode of the short-lived Central-produced sitcom "Good Night and God Bless", which ran for just one series of six episodes in April-May 1983, starring and co-written by the late Donald Churchill.

    • @antster1983
      @antster1983 7 років тому +2

      For some reason, the series has a set of pages on the British Comedy Guide, here's the synopsis for tonight's episode, titled "You Won't Feel A Thing"...
      "A minor operation turns in to a major drama for Ronnie when he has to go in to hospital overnight. In the event of his not coming through the operation, he leaves farewell messages and final instructions for everyone."

  • @jaseinblack
    @jaseinblack 9 років тому +23

    Thanks for sharing this, this clip has it all: Engineering Announcements, a holding slide, one minute *exactly* of black, a start-up, a Schools clock and a frontcap! Any more Engineering Announcements in the TBS archive?

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому +2

      +jaseinblack Very few, we're afraid.

    • @Rexowogamer
      @Rexowogamer 2 роки тому +3

      fortunately, The IBA Archive has uploaded a heap of these - if you like these announcements, I recommend giving them a watch

  • @twitchygiraffe4636
    @twitchygiraffe4636 6 років тому +2

    I had no idea that this existed? It was usually wacaday or someting like that around this time in the morning when I was a kid!!

  • @digitalmediafan
    @digitalmediafan 2 роки тому +2

    I wish it could be just the same now. Where has the time gone I ask myself

  • @ianhalsall-fox
    @ianhalsall-fox Рік тому +2

    AMAZING!

  • @clairejensen4859
    @clairejensen4859 5 років тому +3

    Love these; very nostalgic :)

  • @antster1983
    @antster1983 9 років тому +5

    And your announcer at Central is Gary Terzza.

  • @robmortimer4150
    @robmortimer4150 9 років тому +11

    Three random things:
    1. I wonder how the IBA ident was made, it looks 3D enough to be a model (given in 1982 only very basic 3d computer modelling was available).
    2. I saw a version of the IBA ident which used the synth jingle also used in the first Video Collection ident - but can't seem to find it again... have you come across this?
    3. Notice how the Central logo fits almost perfectly into the clock circle!

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому +7

      +Rob Mortimer 1) The IBA symbol is very definitely a physical, 3D model, videotaped, the contrast pushed to maximum and then chromakeyed into IBA blue and white. 2) Nope! Interesting! 3) Coincidence: Central happily mixes between random globe placements as part of their startups: that one should match is the exception rather than the rule!

  • @muk8804
    @muk8804 4 роки тому +3

    Why is there a minute of black please ? Why didn't they just keep the holding slide on?

    • @nowster
      @nowster 3 роки тому

      Probably convention at Central. Other companies would probably have done their own things. It's also possible that other ITV franchises had longer start up music.
      BBC used 30 seconds of black and silence between test card and programming until the early 1980s.

  • @2001JamesTV
    @2001JamesTV 9 років тому +4

    Also notice a slodge of dirt under the "V" in TV Times in the exact same place as there is in this clip. ua-cam.com/video/R0Tdp1i7M0A/v-deo.htmlm32s Obviously they didn't clean their slides much!

  • @transdiffusion
    @transdiffusion  9 років тому +3

    +SkylerFTWInezFTL VGCP EDCP ANNQ TPNG SFTB OWN: You've not got replies turned on in your settings so you probably won't see this, but the answer is 'Overture' by Owen Brannigan, Geraint Evans and the Glyndebourne Festival Chorus, according to Shazam.

    • @nowster
      @nowster 4 роки тому +2

      It's the overture to "Yeoman of the Guard" by Arthur Sullivan.
      And at 9:45 it's the end of the overture to "The Mikado".

  • @akomor1
    @akomor1 3 роки тому +1

    Whats the music at the beggining?? Sounds like Sonda Lato intro

  • @rhysjj
    @rhysjj 9 років тому +4

    Excellent upload. I've long wondered how Engineering Announcements managed to be broadcast on ITV at all during the TV-am years, given that it was broadcast during the switching period. Presumably each ITV region was already switched through to Crawley Court in preparation for TV-am handing back to them, but wouldn't this have meant a frame roll (at least) during Engineering Announcements itself?

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому +2

      +Rhys Jones If you look closely, there's a frame roll between the Gary Terzza-voiced ITV promo and the blue 'follow at 9.17' caption.

    • @rhysjj
      @rhysjj 9 років тому +2

      +Transdiffusion Broadcasting System Yes, I see that, but wouldn't this have been an automated switchover, occurring at the same time in every region? What I've read about the time before that suggests that the manual switchovers happened at an arbitrary point between 9.15 and 9.30, so would presumably happen mid-Engineering Announcements...

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому +2

      +Rhys Jones They were smart enough to hold them until after the EngAnn programme was done (they were being done manually, literally: a person pulling a plug out and putting another in). In the case of this clip, Birmingham has already been converted to autoswitching, so you don't get quite as jarring a change as happened manually in the past few months. For manual-switched areas, it would take place during the final IBA caption before the startup sequence. Here, it's hidden - possibly even before the clip starts with the Terzza promo being the first thing after the changeover. The switching between individual ITV companies (the IBA probably piped EngAnn through TVS or Thames's network entry point) was always very smooth.

    • @rhysjj
      @rhysjj 9 років тому

      +Transdiffusion Broadcasting System Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.

    • @2001JamesTV
      @2001JamesTV 9 років тому +1

      +Transdiffusion Broadcasting System I have to say I'd be quite interested in seeing more examples of the 9:15-25 switching period from the brief time it existed. Sadly it's something that was over and done with 3 years before I was born!

  • @dotdeeanddelfilmcorporatio6518
    @dotdeeanddelfilmcorporatio6518 6 років тому +2

    ITV school starts in 14:05

  • @djjaseuk
    @djjaseuk 7 років тому +9

    what is the wonderous music (second tune in)

    • @poggs
      @poggs 4 роки тому

      Francis Monkman, "Current Affairs" - ua-cam.com/video/eA0lPg7ZTTU/v-deo.html

  • @JulianAlpsNews
    @JulianAlpsNews 7 років тому +6

    I wonder why they conducted scheduled maintenance of relays during the day, when regular programming would have been interrupted. Why not do it overnight, when ITV was off the air anyway?

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  7 років тому +9

      Two reasons spring to mind: first, health and safety at work - you don't want employees climbing 1,250ft masts at night if you can help it. Second, cost - overtime pay, plus dangerous work allowance, plus night-time supervision, plus union agreement to such a foolhardy plan all equal the maintenance being 10 or 20 times the cost of doing it on a schedule during the day.

    • @JulianAlpsNews
      @JulianAlpsNews 7 років тому +4

      Fair points, but I presume that nowadays much routine maintenance is done at night or with back-up systems, since modern-day relays rarely (if ever) shut down for several hours during the day?

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  7 років тому +9

      Transmitters still go off or operate on reduced power during the day while work is underway. It happens less, because technology has moved on and there's not the range of valves and the like waiting to blow, and less of a big deal is made about it now people have satellite, cable and IPTV to fall back on. But it still happens. If you go to the BBC Reception home page, there are, as of this afternoon, four of the smaller transmitters off-air or on reduced power for essential maintenance.

  • @nickkenwood5518
    @nickkenwood5518 2 роки тому +2

    Anyobody know the piece of music starting at 1:10?

    • @TheSoundtrackbyBDLM
      @TheSoundtrackbyBDLM 2 роки тому +1

      Astral Sounds - Rotohead.
      ua-cam.com/video/SIiClhE6RSU/v-deo.html

  • @GlamTelevision
    @GlamTelevision 4 роки тому +2

    Do you have the first programme of IBA Engineering Announcements ever broadcast in 1973?

    • @scottpeacock5492
      @scottpeacock5492 3 роки тому +1

      GlamTelevision In 1973 tv video recorders were not in existen until 1978, So there were no way Transdiffusion Broadcasting System could record the first IBA Engineering Announcement, Unless the UA-cam Channel Holder record it of a film reel camera pointing to the tv.

  • @jacoboblandonpineda
    @jacoboblandonpineda 8 років тому +9

    What's the name of the song that plays around 1:09?

    • @igorszamaszow171
      @igorszamaszow171 2 роки тому

      Astral Sounds - Rotohead, thanks to The Soundtrack by Blog Đào Lê Minh

  • @WolfieVII
    @WolfieVII 3 роки тому +3

    1:07 Anyone know the name of this track?

    • @igorszamaszow171
      @igorszamaszow171 2 роки тому +1

      Astral Sounds - Rotohead, thanks to The Soundtrack by Blog Đào Lê Minh for the answer to a similar comment

  • @leighbrown5652
    @leighbrown5652 9 років тому +4

    Does the first engineering announcement still exist in the archive.

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому +1

      +Leigh Brown Not as far as we know.

    • @moramento22
      @moramento22 6 років тому +2

      How about last ever Engineering Announcements?

    • @goodolgranite8247
      @goodolgranite8247 5 років тому +2

      @@moramento22 Yes, the last Engineering Announcements can be found on UA-cam.

  • @DN21Media
    @DN21Media 9 років тому +1

    Don't you mean 9.25 am? :)

    • @transdiffusion
      @transdiffusion  9 років тому

      +DN21Media Bum. Corrected!

    • @DN21Media
      @DN21Media 9 років тому

      +Transdiffusion Broadcasting System ha I worried we were getting into C Williams after some moo sick territory :)

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 3 роки тому +1

    1970 - no relays at all? nobody cared to check their information, Hartford, Reigate and Brierley Hill transmitters came on air in the 60s to name a few.

  • @markpunt9638
    @markpunt9638 2 роки тому +1

    Ov-ing-dean 😬🙈🙄. O’ving-dean 👍