Three Weird and Wacky British Warships

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024

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  • @ImportantNavalHistory
    @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому +19

    Thanks for watching everyone! I hope you enjoyed this odd little video, I plan on doing some more like it, not only for the Royal Navy but for other navies as well!
    Edit: The thumbnail is a photo of HMS Erebus in 1938, serving as a turret drill ship. The building under her 15 inch guns is a gym/recreation facility.

    • @leighmenzie5904
      @leighmenzie5904 Місяць тому +1

      I love this channel, I could listen to stuff about warships for hours upon end, the Royal navy I think still makes some odd duck ships. Ships such as the t45 look wacko

    • @hazchemel
      @hazchemel Місяць тому

      Hahaha that explains the shed aft. Thanks for the video.
      I heard a little, about interesting submersibles constructed by the Regia Marina between the two wars, including a kind of sea bed crawling tank with tools on arms.

    • @tidaljunk
      @tidaljunk Місяць тому +1

      Not a bad video at all, though you are mistaken on the monitors with 18" guns. They weren't "testing" them, the 18" guns were moved to the monitors when taken off HMS Furious during her build and subsequent conversion to aircraft carrier.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому

      @@tidaljunk I don't think I was very clear when I said that. I am fully aware of Furious's conversion and her gunnery trials with her aft 18 inch gun. The monitors tested the guns in actual combat, something that Furious never did. Again, I should have been more clear.

    • @thecherubchannel3507
      @thecherubchannel3507 22 дні тому

      Great Video!!

  • @nickviner9489
    @nickviner9489 Місяць тому +9

    I was a junior seaman doing sea training in 1964 and remember seeing H.M.S. Roberts in the distance and being told it was a monitor. I wish I could have got a closer look at this bit of history. I am now knocking on for 77 years of age but I think she was in Devonport dockyard.

  • @user-xb1wh5mt4l
    @user-xb1wh5mt4l Місяць тому +17

    Fun fact: the Italian Navy had Regina Elena-class battleships which were the fastest pre-dreadnought battleships (actually faster than the Dreadnought), carried two main guns in single turrets and a large secondary battery. They were designed by Cuniberti, who was quite an influence of Fisher.

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому

      Check out the Italian Faa di Bruno, a monitor and incredibly ugly

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Місяць тому +17

    1. Big gun Monitors.
    2. "Courageous" class battle cruisers.
    3. HMS Agincourt.

    • @grahamwalker5693
      @grahamwalker5693 Місяць тому +3

      HMS Agincourt was being built for Turkey but it was taken by the gov for the RN who did not really want it due to the size of it guns

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

      @@grahamwalker5693 Originally for Brazil and the RN was glad to have it - its 12 inch guns were the same size as 9 British battleships and 6 battlecruisers

  • @SennaAugustus
    @SennaAugustus 20 днів тому +2

    "I have just been having a long talk with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He has agreed to our building light craft to any extent we can up to a light cruiser. The Chancellor did not say how big the light cruisers could be, so we will build two whoppers, with 15-inch guns, and speed enough to run any German light cruiser off the face of the ocean."
    They were also known as the Outrageous Class with individual ships known as Outrageous (Courageous), Spurious (Furious), and Curious (Glorious).

    • @maryholder3795
      @maryholder3795 4 дні тому

      @SennaAugustus Curious ( Glorious ) this ship wasn't later know as HMS Glorious the aircraft carrier in WW2. Sunk by the Germans.

  • @fullfacility
    @fullfacility Місяць тому +5

    For all their limitations, the Courageous sclass were handsome ships with a well-balanced appearance.

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

      And a waste of money as until they were converted to carriers no ne could figure out what to do with them.

  • @averagewikipediaenthusiast3088
    @averagewikipediaenthusiast3088 Місяць тому +10

    Another interesting topic imo are the planned battleships of smaller/poorer nations like the Greek Vasilefs Konstantinos or the Spanish Reina Victoria Eugenia

    • @fiodarkliomin1112
      @fiodarkliomin1112 3 дні тому +1

      And Brazil and Argentina who bought dreadnought too 😊

  • @LastGoatKnight
    @LastGoatKnight Місяць тому +9

    I have a video suggestion: hybrid battleships. Doesn't matter really which country but I'd prefer talking all of them at least on mention-level

  • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
    @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

    The14 inch guns were from Bethlehem Steel in US and were supposed to be for a Greek battlecruiser being built in Germany. That was obviously not going to happen so the guns and mountings were sold to Britain. Because of the gun's origin, the four ships were originally given names of famous American Civil War officers, but the US protested this violated its neutrality so they were renamed

  • @Thumpalumpacus
    @Thumpalumpacus Місяць тому +5

    Odd ships -- US Atlanta-class AA cruisers, amphibious command-and-control ships of WWII, and Japanese amphibious assault ships of the same war. Japanese Army transport carriers, too.

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

      Atalantas not odd, compare to Britissh Dido's. Both were the product of 2nd Naval London Treaty limiting cruiser size. US AGC's not odd, compare to British LSH's

  • @stephenolson532
    @stephenolson532 3 дні тому +1

    The HMS CAPSIZED 🙈🙉

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Місяць тому +2

    Much appreciated young man once again, I am watching this after England just beat Holland to reach the Final of the Euro 24 this Sunday vs Spain 🇪🇸 which is a wonderful way of rounding off this evening. Best wishes. 👏⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇪🇸

  • @robertguttman1487
    @robertguttman1487 Місяць тому +8

    When it comes to odd battleships USS Mississippi rates mention if only because she was the only WW-I era dreadnought ever to have been armed with surface-to-air guided missiles.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому +3

      Boom! This is what I'm talking about! Perfect recommendation, thank you!

    • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
      @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

      But NOT as a battewagon, she had been modified as a gunnery trials and training ship

  • @garyjohnsen8756
    @garyjohnsen8756 Місяць тому +2

    Great video, one of your best

  • @user-ou9hr3uy3s
    @user-ou9hr3uy3s Місяць тому +1

    Enjoy these videos. Well presented good info and quality narration. Thank you I'm glad I subbed!

  • @rickwhite8793
    @rickwhite8793 Місяць тому +6

    With all the research you must have too do its a wonder you can manage 1 video a week let alone more especially with college as well... so thank you. 👍 Its always interesting when its something a little more unusual. Do you only cover up until the end of WW2? I only ask because i was thinking about a couple of ships post WW2. HMS Valiant or the carrier HMS Hermes of Falklands fame. Cheers 👍

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Місяць тому

      Top comment 👍

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому +1

      I can definitely go beyond WW2, I think the farthest I've gone outside of WW2 is the Novorossiysk disaster. Also, thanks for the kind words! I've really got to stop making these videos so long, it's getting hard to produce them!

    • @maryholder3795
      @maryholder3795 4 дні тому

      ​@@ImportantNavalHistory but the information you put together is amazing. Short or long video hum.
      But you're also reminding us of past history that had a major influence on navel ship designs for all countries.

  • @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il
    @ROBERTNABORNEY-jx5il 14 днів тому +1

    8-15 One of the 3 ships modified to mount a 18 inch gun in a limited traverse mounting pointing to starboard.

  • @stuew6
    @stuew6 Місяць тому +2

    Also US Alaska class Large Cruiser

  • @lyedavide
    @lyedavide Місяць тому +1

    A great video on some of the lesser known RN vessels. I can't help but feel that Churchill was quite the scoundrel in his dealings with other nations in all of his capacities as a RN officer and as a politician. I've often wondered what monstrous battleships the Queen Elizabeth class battleships had they been armed with 18 inch guns. Thanks for another interesting video!

  • @mkaustralia7136
    @mkaustralia7136 Місяць тому +2

    Loved it

  • @iantobanter9546
    @iantobanter9546 Місяць тому +1

    My dad served on Erebus in Operations Neptune and Infatuate. Thanks for posting this video.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому

      Well if you’re around for this Saturday, I’m posting a full video on Erebus!

  • @nicoferguson1215
    @nicoferguson1215 Місяць тому +2

    Oohhhh, could you do a video on the Brazilian Monitor Parnaíba?

  • @vbprogman
    @vbprogman Місяць тому

    HMS Argus, the merchant aircraft carriers and the CAM ships.

  • @jp-um2fr
    @jp-um2fr Місяць тому +4

    It feels rather to find an American who is 'fair' when it comes to the Royal Navy. I take it you are not a relative of Admiral King, who in my opinion should have been shot. He delayed the introduction of the convoy system because the Brits invented it. This cost the lives of many American, British and many others. Gawd we had some idiots (Mountbatten - Dieppe) but as usual you lot like to be the best.

  • @brunozeigerts6379
    @brunozeigerts6379 2 дні тому

    I can't imagine the French naming a ship the Agincourt.

  • @robhartley3930
    @robhartley3930 Місяць тому

    The monitors were not used to test the 18in 40cal guns, that was HMS Furious, they were used to allow the guns to be used after removal of the aft one from Furious, the forward turret was never fitted. Furious did fire this once.

  • @TheSmokie25
    @TheSmokie25 Місяць тому

    My father told me a story a long time ago. Saying he served on a ship that he could walk around, which I thought was far fetched. He told me it was called HMS Roberts. After a bit of research this was the bulge in the hull he could walk on. This would be flooded to lower the ship so it was a stable platform to fire the guns.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому +2

      Well, if you would like I have this video. HMS Roberts: The Last Big Gun Royal Navy Ship
      ua-cam.com/video/fm0uRN3VoKA/v-deo.html
      I also have some books in the description in which you can read about your father’s ship. She truly was an amazing ship.

  • @joemaloney1019
    @joemaloney1019 Місяць тому

    I always thought the Courageous class had similar requirments to a high speed double monitor using a large cruiser hull optimized for shallow draft.

  • @andybelcher1767
    @andybelcher1767 Місяць тому

    Hi, an excellent, well researched, and contextual presentation of specialist ships. It is so irritating to see ill-considered criticism by armchair warriors of anything British, such as criticising the lack of armour protection of battlecruisers, or comparing ships to others built 30 years later. Thank you very much

  • @ronroche3138
    @ronroche3138 Місяць тому +2

    How about USS Vesuvius?

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Місяць тому

      Sounds quite interesting..👍👏📚

  • @ethanjacques-n9p-catch21luck7
    @ethanjacques-n9p-catch21luck7 Місяць тому

    I have three ships for suggestions
    you already covered Furious because I was one of my top five
    so the three ships that are my favorite is USS S1 submarine
    HMS Dreadnought if you haven't done it
    And USS Cruiser Pennsylvania

  • @rogerstevens6068
    @rogerstevens6068 Місяць тому

    Good film. TY. Ideas... How about HMS ZUBIAN (WW1). The joining of two WW! Tribals?? One bow section and one stern?

  • @jamesday1295
    @jamesday1295 Місяць тому

    How about a full video on every historical namesake of the RN vessels my dad served on.
    It's worth a shot.

    • @ImportantNavalHistory
      @ImportantNavalHistory  Місяць тому

      Well, if you could provide a list, I can see what I can do!

    • @jamesday1295
      @jamesday1295 Місяць тому

      @ImportantHistory thank you for replying. This was a hail Mary post!
      So these are all cold war vessels from 70' - 93'
      The ones I know little of in regards to dad, or the namesake.
      Torquay
      Londonderry
      Russell
      The more personally familiar to me, and some definite repeat offenders over 600 years or so.
      Avenger
      Intrepid
      Juno
      Scylla
      Achilles
      Devonshire
      Diomede
      You've earned a sub regardless, thanks for taking the time to look :)

  • @kiwisteve6598
    @kiwisteve6598 Місяць тому +1

    Although not touched on here, I’ve read that Churchill’s rough handing of the Turks over the Agincourt, along with Germany opportunistically gifting the Turks the Goeben and Breslau, helped tipped the Ottomans into throwing their lot in with the central powers rather than the allies. If true it made retaining them a strategic blunder, and very expensive acquisitions for ships that ended up doing very little.

  • @user-tb2sn9nn5k
    @user-tb2sn9nn5k Місяць тому

    How about h.n.a.s.albatross. That was a strange ship