The ID Cooling SE-225-XT: Ryzen 7 Test
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- In this review I'll give an overview of ID Cooling's new SE-225-XT 120mm tower cooler. Primarily I'll be comparing it against its slightly lower priced sibling, the SE-224-XT. Is it worth it for Ryzen 5 or 7?
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0:00 Introduction
4:25 Thermal Testing
8:14 Recommendations - Наука та технологія
Since the thermal tests are kind of counter-intuitive with the single chiplet Ryzen 7, and I think the heatsink design has a big part to play, I will be posting up a quick follow up for tests with a single chiplet 5600x and a dual chiplet Ryzen 9.
It's probably poor quality control on ID Cooling's part.
You can check this other review of another SKU that supposedly has better cooling than SE-224 but outright loses(turn on english subtitles)
ua-cam.com/video/wEoTJcYe510/v-deo.html
Woot! Was gonna ask about ryzen 9 performance. Considering options to replace my cryorig H7 quad lumi. Gaming in the nr200p with tg panel it hits mid 70s but that means 100% fan speed.
When I ran the 5600x with the same cooler and orientation it barely broke 70.
Thanks for sharing that, very interesting. I hope it's not QC, but then again, maybe it is. Small variances in the heatpipe/vapor consistency could lead to big differences.
dude a word of advice...youre very technically capable and have hands on skills - but the flow of logic and ideas in your videos is not clear /properly explained.
You need to have a good script and explain
-what youre going to do,
- show what youre doing,
- explain/summarize
Doing this will boost your viewership
do you know if this cooler is compatible with an intel LGA 2011-3 socket?
Man i just recently found your channel but i think ive watched all the fan reviews and now we have a new one! Yes
Just ordered the 224XT RGB today, can't wait!
the 224 is very impressive. Got one for $30 only, and keeps a 5600X extremely cool, I'm talking about near high-end cooler temperatures. Black magic I say.
Same here. Iddle dropped from 45-47 to 35-36. Heavy load gaming from 85-88 to 66. It's bonkers.
@@leonelidas89 It is recommeded for a 5800x?
@@juaniriartesoliz4613 I don't know. Maybe for gaming and normal use, not OC.
Thank you for the video! I am watching your videos for a about 8 months and I like the way you do testing and the way you made conclusions and recommendations. Keep uploading awesome and very useful videos :) I have a question: I am planning to build Ryzen 9 3900X in Cooler master NR200 with mesh panel. Which one of CPU coolers you can recommend, which will fit in NR200? Motherboard which I am considering is Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX. Thank you))
Thanks for the research!
Well done video - clear and enjoyable.
I love this video and I am really enjoying my se 224 xt
this video is very helpful. I almost buy the 225xt one. besides, the 225xt doesn't have white color variant which match with my color scheme. Thanks
Fascinating result, good creative idea to try 2 fans on the SE-224! The situation is probably like the Fuji F21 camera (or whatever, i may have forgotten the model) and/or the Panasonic Lumix ZS4. Both manufacturers produced MASSIVELY superior devices whose pictures dominated ALL CAMERAS for 5Y or more, 1-2 f-stops sharper than all similar cameras. Why? Some sort of "very good luck" or "perfect matching" of components (sensor density, lens). Even though both manufacturers continued to release new versions of their products at higher price points and with more features and even CMOS sensors, they never attained such greatness again ...
"All editorial direction is my own"...... 😂 Got em'
For all the alpha male type PR dudes out there 😃
@@MachinesMore haha for sure...man what a weird thing this situation has been, I can't figure out why they handled it this way instead of just silently blacklisting a person and not contacting them so as to not draw attention
@@samgoff5289 true, but this incident exposing Nvidia, and also MSi with TechTeamGB, is way more desirable for all PC consumers moving forward
Lol!
Hello! Late to the party but these videos are very useful. I'm building for a friend and was looking for the cheapest CPU cooler I could find and picked the se225xt for just under 23 USD (£18).
I can assume it performs similarly to the 224xt and can see it seems to fit a full size fan above thanks to your video. Cheers!
Your previous vid tipped me over the fence to buy the SE-224-XT, albeit the RGB version, over its competition in the same price stack. The Ryzen 7 1700 3.7GHz at 1.275V dropped from 93-95°C with the Wraith Spire LED to 68-72°C.
It also helps that it's got a superior LGA 115X mounting system, and not those stupid pushpins, which will definitely come in handy for a future project of mine with older Intel hardware.
Glad you are enjoying it. I think it’s the go-to for single chiplet Ryzen and gives budget flexibility to upgrade fans and such.
@@MachinesMore Yep, the ID-Cooling 12025 fans are definitely more premium feeling than the Deepcool ones at a similar prices. Less body flex and it even has those anti-vibration rubber pads around the screws which Deepcool advertises but isnt on the delivered product... I know, I bought two of those.
It would be great if you made a video like this but about the Vetroo U6 Pro CPU Cooler
what do you think of adding the artic p12 pwm fans on the 224xt instead of noctua? reckon the thermals will be neck and neck?
Hey dude I was wondering if you could make a review on the Silverstone SX1000 Platinum SFX-L PSU that just came out. I was actually planning on getting one but I have not heard many great thing about it on Reddit, Amazon and even Silverstone's on website. The main reason for those negative comments are because of the supposed fan noise it creates during idle. I was hoping to get your take on this, thanks!
I'd like to have seen the SE224 xt with the Noctua fans in push pull. I'm going to build and use a 224 XT with two Arctic cooling bionics fans but it won't be built for a while. I'm going to use it in the tropics and I want it to work well even when air conditioning is broken.
Спасибо тебе друже с противоположного материка. тест полезный
se 225 xt very good performance at that price
applause for id cooling and leave noctua
Can you please review ID-Cooling's AIOs?
I theorize that as the heat pipes exit the base plates on the SE-225, they are too close together, forming a wall so that air cannot flow between the pipes. This is evident at 2:04 in the video.
Hello sir, will this fit into a Cougar MG-130G? Thank you!
I hope temps on their max fan rpm would also be shown.
Really wish i could find heatsink tests with standardized fans at different heat loads and different CPU's, think it could be pretty interesting to see, i'm currently using a Mugen 5 with a 5600x but thinking of moving to a smaller heatsink, upgraded the fan to the Phanteks T30 so i've been wondering how the Mugen 5, SE-224-XT, Gammaxx 400 v2 and NH-U12A would perform using a single T30, i guess likely similar on a low TDP 5600x but i'm planning on moving to a 5900x/5950x later on
Managed to find a SE-224-XT for $25 and i can resell my Mugen 5 for double that so think i'll jusk do it and hope it handles higher heat well in the future, the T30 should give some extra performance compared to any AC stock fan as well, i'm also considering ambient temps slightly higher here. I'll definitely miss Scythe's screwdriver though...
Seems like the 224XT + the 5 pack of Arctic P12s will be perfect for the NR200/P, since you get to upgrade the cpu cooler fans, and have 3 more leftover as case fans.
It is. I mentioned your idea in the follow up vid. Thanks for chiming in!
I feel like if the 225 would have a flat soldered coldplate it would really excel.
Hi, Mugen 5 rev. B or this one at the same price?
Review se 207 xt please
Hi one quick question, if you remove the decorative top panel of the SE-224-XT would that be enough to mount the fan/hdd bracket with the vented panel on? Or is it still too tall? Thanks.
Still too tall. But you can mod the panel if you really need it. Just drill out where the heatpipes touch and allow them to go through.
Im planning to buy 225 xt. Im concerned about the ram clearance. I got ryzen 5 3600, asrock a320 r4 mobo and tecware air m2 matx case.
The SE225's design for the base with gaps btwn the heatpipes probably caused it to perform worse than the 224 because of the very high thermal density in current and more recent cpus.
Will it work good on ryzen 7 4750g? Which is better? This or the deepcool gammaxx gt argb? Thanks
Should I change gelid tornado to se224xt basic? ryzen 3700x
Hey there, just built my new rig and I'm having some problems with ram clearance for a cpu cooler. Currently have:
MSI B550 Gaming Edge Wifi
Tforce Delta RGB White
The hyper 212 led turbo red I bought can't fit because the fan hits the ram even if I adjust it to the highest point.
Any suggestions on an aftermarket air-cooler that can fit with my motherboard and ram?
If it’s like the Hyper 212 V2 there should be a configuration that doesn’t have a RAM limitation. 1) Are you able to place the fan on the rear side of the case? Not sure if it’s an option with that board. 2) if you rotate the cooler you may be able to fit the fan where you want it without interference with RAM.
wait, we can mount the topfan normally with these 225's?
Do. You think se 224 will be OK with stock 5900x? Or should I buy noctua u12s redux?
The Vetroo V5 has been going for $24.00 recently with coupon and is a great cooler.
does the cooler fit if i have the PSU on the top of the case?
Do you happen to know if you can mount the CPU cooler facing up?
Not with AM4.
Nice video. Very informative and detailed comparison. How does this ID Cooling SE-224-XT compare to the Deepcool GAMMAXX GT TGA ? the Deepcool uses Hydraulic Bearings while ID-cooling is using 2 Ball Bearings.
Thoughts about deepcool gammaxx 400 ex/pro?
is there a difference in performance between se 224 white and basic?
Thanks for the review. Could the 225's poor results be related to thermal paste? When you removed the 225 from the CPU did you happen to notice the paste distribution? Could paste application as recommended by Arctic for direct touch heat pipes (ua-cam.com/video/JYwHB2P6GmM/v-deo.html) improve the results? Thanks!
Sometimes, yes it could be. The litmus test is what the paste pattern looks like after pressure is applied. I ran multiple tests and remounts due to the unexpected results but had the same results. Further testing with the paste applied to the pipes still yields better results for the 4 heat pipe version on the single chiplet 5600X. With a dual chiplet 3900X things look more regular.
Any news on the se-225-xt V2?
Which one should I get for my NR200P case for 13400F?
I use the SE 224 XT with some Arctic F12 fans in the NR200, is it worth to upgrade it to some noctua fans or not?
Are your thermals concerning and/or stopping you from getting what you need out of your computer? If so, I'd consider the upgrade. If not, no need to upgrade.
You should have bought the Arctic p12s. They are much better than the f12, close to noctua for 1/3 of the price.
@@Psi-Storm I mean that's not gonna help him now
@@kyleivy7679 It will if he's considering to upgrade to Noctua.
Does anyone know If this is rebranded for PCSpecialist machines?
Looks like you have the fans on the 225 in opposite directions lol 7:59 appears the inner fan is intake and the back fan is exhaust. So they are working against one another and the reason they are performing worse than the 224
I have a nr200p and have the 224 on ordered. Do I really need to remove the plastic cover for the TG panel to fit?
Possibly, you can either screw the glass panel on or remove the cover for an interference free fit.
@@MachinesMore
Ok, ill try that. Thanks for the reply. Also, ill be using this on a 5900x at stock. By adding a extra fan in the back, you think it will be sufficient? The reason I pick this cooler because it fit with the TG panel and its white so it fit my theme. Currently running with a 120mm AIO and I'm idling at 64C and full load at 84c. So, hopefully this cooler will be better.
Hey David, it will be sufficient with two fans. A quick follow up is coming on Ryzen 9 and the 225 xt is better, but mainly from the 2nd fan. That being said on either cooler that fan will need to run harder at higher loads so just be aware of the noise implications.
that's weird. somehow my results are pointing towards the 225 been better. i did a comparison ( i have the fuma2, mugen5, h7 quadlumi too) the temperature is better on the 225 than the rest including the 224. but i did do 1 thing i learn from either the bequiet or some other cooler's instruction. i applied the thermal paste on the headpipe then put it down onto the cpu. was using the mx4.
o yes forgot to include that i am on the 5900x cpu.
Did you keep fan speeds the same?
@@MachinesMore yes i did. i standarized the fans to all be arctic p12 pwn at same speeds. didnt have any noctua for the test so p12 are all i could used. 225 was better but i will say margin difference. nothing near to the "10%" i was kinda expecting with the extra heatpipe.
Gotcha. As far as the thermal paste goes, for sure on some direct contact heat pipe designs painting the TIM on the pipes is helpful. It was a bit of a head scratcher to me too, so I triple checked and re-mounted the SE-225-XT and it yielded the same results.
For another review when tested with a dual chiplet Ryzen 9 CPU the 224-XT wasn't as good relative to the U12A as it was on the 5600X. It's strangely good with single chiplet Ryzen, which is why I recommend this over the 225XT in those circumstances. If you're going with a 5900X I personally think it's a good idea to spend above the $50 price bracket for a cooler.
@@MachinesMore i would love to spend more but i want to show the insides of the NR200P with TG panel. So i have a hard time finding anything better than this. would love to give the cpu an AIO but the top of the NR200P cant be mounted with an AIO. a slim AIO for the top is not going to do much better than all these air coolers i think. if only the case was a few mm wider..
does the 225 xt/224 xt fits with the mesh panel?
will they interfere if im using 2 Arctic p12 top exhaust fans?
Yes, it does fit. You should be able to do two fans at the top with most boards.
wew. I’m planning to use 224xt with 2 Arctic p12 as top exhaust. I was worried it might not fit. Thanks for the clarification.
are you just changing fan speed via bios?
Do you think this cooler is better for the price to performance when compared to the u12s?
Absolutely. The SE-224-XT with NF-A12x25 would be similar in cost but with better noise performance.
@@MachinesMore Gotcha. Just wondering, because I'm searching for a heatsink to pair with 2x thermaltake toughair fans. Idk if adding a pack of $35 fans would do much
Should I change my cooler from Cooler Master Air MA620p to this for my Ryzen 5 3600? I have 40-45°c idle and 66°c max load. Or am I just paranoid?🤣
It's fine, I'm using r5 3600 with se-244-xt, I've got 38-42 on idle, 68-72 on heavy usage. I just ordered Arctic p12 to add one more on the other side.
224 xt with dual fans intake, 2 top, and 2 bot? OR Mugen 5 single fan intake, 1 top, and 2 bot? (for 5800x)
224-xt, provided you have clearance- vented panel or TG with 224’s heatsink cover removed.
@@MachinesMore Much appreciated, thanks for the reply and keep up the great content!
Hi...my name's jimmy from indonesia and I've watching this video for a long time, please help me for your best :
1. Can I place cooler SE224XT in my pc case CORSAIR 275R Carbide Series without open the top case of the cooler while you close the side panel tempered glass in nr200 case?
2. Best OC completely for my Ryzen 5-3600x (w/msi b450 tomhawk max) for everyday playing games?
3. To set the fan cooler speed on bios uefi, set smart fan or set manual speed fan?
That's it...I'm sorry because my english language isn't good enough, thanks...
What would be the best for the tempered glass option?
If you want an interference free fit I found the 224XT to work without the cover. Both coolers stock will require some screws to hold the panel in place.
@@MachinesMore thanks for the info. Is there no tower cooler that would fit the tempered glass w/o screws? I’m also using an Intel i7-9700k for cpu if that changes height with mounting hardware.
I used the Mugen 5 but the heat pipes still hit the tempered glass, as well as the fan clip hitting the 120mm exhaust case fan I had set up
If a Mugen 5 won't fit, your Z390 motherboard is probably one of the taller ones, is it the Strix board you have? That's why they quote a fairly conservative number for CPU height in case there are small variations that cause interference. Since that one is not an interference free fit, the choices are narrowed down somewhat, for 120mm coolers you're looking at a Cryorig H7 pretty much, since that's one of the shortest ones. You could also go to a 92mm tower like the Noctua U9S.
Should I get one of these for an i5-12400f? Or is it too much?
224 would be just fine!
What is the noise level like for each cooler?
loud since they are cheap fans. noctua fans are the quietest.
I am using i5 11400, would you recommend this ? Thank you !
Absolutely. 224-xt would be fine too.
@@MachinesMore thank you ! Got it already yesterday ! One question is it the thermal paste is good ?
Is it impossible to put 4 ram memories, or is it possible?
Can you just use the stock AM4 backplate to install this?
Yes.
Is it possible to mount 140mm fans to this cooler?
I'd imagine if you can get the right clips it could work, but the fan will exceed the frame of the heatsink- most fans move the most air towards the edges so you'd be missing out on that, the air is just going to take the easy way out and bypass the heatsink.
Shoot, if you plan on buying different fans for the 225, don't bother and just get the Fuma 2. Similar to Noctua D15 in a smaller 155mm package
Damn, just bought a 225 for my 3700- oh well 🙂
How did it perform?
is IDCOOLING SE 224-XT / 225-XT COMPATIBLE TO R5 3600, GIGABYTE A320M-H REV1.1, CM 500W 230V,
PALIT GEFORCE GTX 1050TI???/ THANKS
Should be great for any Ryzen 5 CPU. As for the other components, your Mobo works and the power supply is sufficient, so as long as they fit your case you are good.
The heatpipe gap is probably sitting right over the chiplet.
Definitely possible.
arctic P12 pwm and done.
HOW DO I ATTACH THIS TO MY GIGABYTE B550 AUROS AC
It comes with mounting hardware to use the existing AM4 backplate, you just need to attach the bars to the board.
what a surprise, four it's better than five. Push pull is a mith
SE 225 works with nr200p (tempered glass) but still don't understand how this can be worse than SE224! I have the CM nr200p with the ryzen 3700x searching for Cooler that can go with the tempered glass and this was to cooler I waited for but now ...this results ...Sad face :(
The 224-XT fits, just take the cover off. It's really good. I should also point out, the 225XT doesn’t fit, you would need screws to get it to work.
@@MachinesMore They have SE-234-ARGB ! Wonder how that compare to this two!? So for my 3700x just pbo on I'd cooling se224 is the better choice! Also I have seen that I can fit one 120mm fan in the back of the nr200p and wonder if I can make a little easy mod to make one 120mm aio work. I'm sure this can be done with some motherboards like( Asus strix x470-i) I have ! If you can try this well...another great nr200 content ! Anyway, thank you for this nice content and nice holidays to all!
I think so. I've heard some mixed experiences though so I'm not sure if there are some manufacturing variances, but design wise I'm sure it's perfect for Ryzen 5 and 7. Even if you could make the AIO work, the vents on the back aren't as plentiful- there are lots of covered up spots so you won't get as much surface area.
can this keep a 5950X cool?
With good airflow in the case, I think so. I'd upgrade the fans though if you plan on using the CPU for heavy rendering.
@@MachinesMore mostly I’ll be gaming. Thanks for your reply.
id cooling is very good, but it can't be as quiet as noctua
It's all about the fan.
...or get a Scythe Fuma 2.
No idea about the Fuma 2 but it the ID Cooling 224 keeps my E5 2689 Xeon on the NR200P with TP on on 60c while playing without problems. My Noctua NHL 12S hits the 80c.
The problem is your fan. It must be all pull. Not pull push
This is a bad review, and i DO like some of your videos.
You don´t have enough thermal capacity to saturate any of the coolers and in the end, it comes down to contact.
I didn´t finish watching the video and i did jumped through it, but mostly because it just pointless to compare coolers on a CPU that barely reaches 90w power consumption. The testing platform it´s just not enough, so the results are wrong.
Thanks for checking in. I'll explain- this is a real world review that is designed to cover the majority of users. For the most part users are looking for coolers that will cover CPUs lower than 100W TDP. Testing with Ryzen 9 would magnify the differences and show if a cooler can run a CPU that hot, but at the same time that wouldn't necessarily help Ryzen 3600 or 5600X users. With the thermals from the 3700X, I wouldn't even begin to recommend this for Ryzen 9 users because in order to get it to run cool enough that fan would be in a very loud RPM range. My opinion is that it's important to test the product based on the intended market. If you're running a high end chip this shouldn't be the cooler to consider.
@@MachinesMore i think the 3700x @1.25V should be above 95 watts even, if i'm not mistaken?
Yes. Since the tested frequency is at a slight all core overclock it’s drawing close to 95W. It’s high enough to get good resolution on where coolers stack up relatively.
@@MachinesMore I’m the intended user for your content, 5600x paired with an MSI Ventus 3x 3080 in the NR200. I bought the 224 based on your recommendation and test results(and because it was 23$!), but sadly I’m not seeing anywhere close to your performance levels.
I have my 5600x OCed at 4.6ghz all core at 1.125mV, for a fully loaded power draw of 85-90W. I’m running a pair of Arctic P12s, which are second only to NFA12s in terms of performance, and at 2000rpm I’m seeing high 70s running cinebench. I remounted/repasted and I’m not seeing better thermals, let alone anything close to your results. Thoughts?
@@MachinesMore i get your point, but it doesnt make it right, because the results that you just got are kind of based on contact lottery, not on cooler´s performance. If you did this video with the conclusion of showing and speaking about that there´s diminishing returns to using big coolers on thermally dense 65w CPUs, that would be fare, but i don´t see that.
You can have a gammaxx 400 (the $25 one) and if you get a unit with very good contact, it might even outperform the 2 you´re reviewing.
If you wanna go by that logic, you have to do this with several coolers and CPUs to show the behaviour pattern. Ik there´s a shit ton of work......weeks or maybe months, but otherwise is just bad data, or rather data that drives to a bad conclusion.
Anyway it´s your channel, not mine, so it´s just my opinion and suggestion. You do you.
By the way, i´ve seen, you do mention many important details that even good reviewers skip, and they are not non sense (cus out there in the wild most often then not, are). Cheers to that!!
When you show the cooler coldplate, can you use something very straight and try to show how flat, convex or bent out of shape they are????..... It will become very important with the new CPUs that use a small nodes.