How do Hasidic Jews make money? | HASIDIC ECONOMY
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- This is an overview of how #hasidic Jews, who often reject college and most secular education in childhood, earn a living. Join me for a bit of an overview of a very unique #economy in the heart of New York City.
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Lets not forget about the many less observant Jews that help fund many of the major institutions inside Haredi communities. My family, while pretty secular, regularly donates to a local Yeshiva and Kollel. Judaism teaches that people who help fund the study of Torah get a share in the merit of that study. Shana Tova to all, may you all have a happy and healthy year!
This sounds similar to the practices in Buddhist-majority countries, where the monks come around town daily and are provided with rice and other foods and necessities by the members of the greater community.
That's a big fat lie!
@@sleb6259 what is a big fat lie?
This might sound patronizing but do you think yeshiva university would open up some Jr colleges?
@@christopher8341Touro University has cornered that market. I doubt an elite university like YU, that's focused on research, would be interested in opening up a "Jr. College". I do know that YU does offer some adult learning programs though.
Very well put.
A few additions though:
1) The Kosher food industry also reaches way beyond the Hasidic community, not just to more mainstream Jews but also there are non jews that prefer Kosher food for safety reasons.
2) Unlike in the secular world where rich people move away into rich gated communities, and spend their money on yachts and expensive cars or rolex watches, Hasidic rich people stay in the community and rather spend their money to help their brethren
Aameen
@@Channel-sp3fp I don't like to answer for biased people and haters.
But if you are truly interested in the facts, I would recommend you to actually research your claims and the percentage of it in the Hasidic community vs the secular ones and see for yourself
@@cherylkhoja917 What are you doing?
@@abuzolfiqar2122 I am a teacher in Atlanta Georgia.
@@cherylkhoja917 Are you from the Khoja people or is that just your surname?
About a year ago, I heard my dad, who's Jewish, say that the Hasidim just study all day and didn't work. Having lived in a Hasidic neighborhood for about two years, I was like: are you kidding me? Do you think they can have eight kids and buy apartments in Brooklyn with welfare checks and food stamps? And then I pretty much had the conversation you described in this video. It's a maddeningly illogical misconception! Thanks for putting this together!
It’s funny, tho it has changed recently, Litvish Jews spent much much more time studying Torah.
So they don't abuse welfare?
They do welfare and also handouts from their own community. It's not mutually exclusive
The majority are on welfare and don't do anything except study Torah. It not illogical at all. The hasidic American villages have some of the highest poverty rates in America.
i've seen you tube videos say the hasidic men get donations to study torah. However, donations were dwindling so men have to go out to work.
I think the pandemic and economic crisis have taught people the importance of multiple streams of income, unfortunately having a job doesn't mean financial security. I really appreciate the transparency and giving people a fighting chance during this troubling times.
@Karl Hermann That's true. I invest in dividend stocks, Forex trading and Real Estate and I'm making good profits from them. I always encourage Investments.
Forex trading is really profitable, now is the best time to take advantage of the market and earn a lot. And of course to do that you need the help of a professional.
Most failures and loss on Investment usually happens when you invest without proper guide, assistance and clear analysis of the profit and risk percentage of the Investment.
The first thing that you should consider, when choosing an Investment Manager, is the experience and professional background of the prospective broker. Adequate experience in the financial markets and dealing with clients is of the utmost importance. Since you would be handing over your finances to the investment manager, she/he must be well-qualified.
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Freeda, I know you left the community and as much as it hurts...I still wanna commend you on a fair view of our life. You dont mix your personal animus , if any...with the truth and for that I tip my hat to you. I watched your interview with Peri Engelman, a relative of mine and it gave me great joy to see how respectful you were and how fair and unbiased you were and simply asked the relevant questions in a neutral way to educate the public. Thank you for your fair unbiased portrayal of your people, in spite of your personal choices to live life apart from it. Blessings for a sweet year and enlightenment to the truth of Torah and mitzvos! G' mar Chasima Tova.
Frieda, we are so thankful to Hashem for creating you so talented and so intelligent with kindness to it, as nobody has so far spread this word about the Hasidic Jewish community in-house business trading in such a genuine and authentic way with such a positive vision about them,
On a side note, I strongly believe that now after your video came out, a lot of Hasidic Jews who have not made it yet to the top of the ladder will now get inspired by you and roll up their sleeves and try to climb up the success ladder, 📈📈📊📊
very nice emojis Yoineh
My heart goes out to all the secular teachers in Williamsburg. I tried it. Difficult, but rewarding. Great job reporting on Williamsburg. The best part of America!
Very enlightening. I recently started patronizing a bakery in NYC that does online orders. They ship within 24 hours by FedEx. I was kind of surprised to find out that they were Hasidim when I researched them. I didn't even think they really used the internet. That shows you my ignorance of the situation.
Isn't Haagen Dazs ice cream Hassidic product?
Which bakery? My husband likes cake.
@@sfertonoc lol. no
@@sfertonoc
No it isn't. But they were founded by Jewish Holocaust survivors.
@@sfertonoc Kosher, but not Hassidic.
I'm glad you mentioned State Aid. I worked several years with NYC's social services division, and became aware of many Hasidic families receiving SNAP benefits (more commonly known as food stamps). I've always been curious about the Hasidic culture, and am enjoying these videos.
There' s a big wealth-gap in our community, while many receive government aid- even more are quite affluent and pay high taxes... the middle-class is relatively small.
This surprises me since I thought this group of people were very stern about being independent and caring for their families. 😮
Wow! This was such an informative and measured assessment of a very complicated and somewhat sensitive topic. Thank you Frida!
I try! :)
My family owned businesses in Williamburg and the Hasidic community is very close to our own. Although we are not Jewish, a lot of the food and influence extends beyond the inside community. Thank you for this video. It was very eye opening.
Fascinating.. did your family get out of the businesses before the hipsters came?
@@Thingsandcosas Yes actually, they sold before it became super developed in the area. I remember when it was still mostly Hasidic neighborhoods.
I am so glad you are sharing this because i was under the misconception that the woman took care of the children and worked while the husbands studied daily. Some of the negative films with abused woman showed that actually. I so respect the religion and their devotion to protecting their children and giving their family relationships top priority and protect this. You are a great asset to the Hasidic Jewish people.
Kars for kids is a complete scam .. so is Jews for Jesus
Film with abused women showed that? What the hell are you talking about here? In 80% of Jew family it's that way, so those women are all abused?
A lot of Jewish women go through what you are describing. It's not normally a Hasidic thing though. I believe they are called Yeshivists. They are Orthodox Jewish men who live completely to study the Holy texts, which leave the women responsible for everything else in life.
This arrangement is more common among Ultra Orthodox Jews in Israel. There are some men who stay in yeshiva even until their 30s.
Awesome video, Frieda. You do a great service to the Hasidic community, and to the Jewish community at large. So glad to see the segment on B&H, which is the best place to buy a camera in New York. They really know their merchandise and are extremely helpful.
All organized religions, especially the Abrahamic faiths need to be reeducated out of society. Ridiculous fairy tales have held society back for long enough.
Furthermore, the state of Israel is an apartheid theocracy that is democratic in name only. You cannot have both a democratic and a Jewish state, the notions are wholly incompatible
I’ve never heard such a clear explanation of the community’s economy. You answered many of my questions and clarified the misinformation I’ve read through the years. Yes, I’m still working my way through your content. 😊
I remember many years ago (1960's) when we lived in Bush Terminal near Boro Park, my mother needed plastic slip covers for our living room furniture. She called a local mom and pop upholstery shop that specialized in custom made plastic slipcovers. To our surprise, a large Hasidic or maybe orthodox man with hat , fringe etc came to our house to take the measurements. We weren't Jewish and I couldn't believe a religious man would come to a non Jewish home. Also, my mom had very bad varicose veins and always wore specialized compression stockings. She would not wear compression panty hose. The only places that carried that kind of stockings were Hassidic ladies' hosiery stores on 13th or 14th Avenue in Boro Park .Those were the only stores that carried such "old fashioned " stockings.
Amazing video! Glad to see someone cover Hasidism without bashing them. Keep it up!
My former employer, a major hardware manufacturer, did business with the Hasidic jews. I was sent to their business several times to train them on our products. What a waste of time. Very difficult to work with. They wouldn't touch the products with their baby butt smooth hands. They treated their black employees like dirt. They were rude and treated their female employees (also Hasidic) worse than their black employees. I couldn't wait to leave their business. When asked to return I declined.
*"What's ours is ours, but what's yours is also ours!"*
Most of them cut corners 😢
I was involved in healthcare with this community for over 35 yrs and the amount of government entitlements going to their members is overwhelming I saw a large amount of poverty, poor educational outcomes and depression among the women .
I lived in the town next to Williamsburg and I agree. The stress for women and men in this economy is incredible. Depression is rampant and so is abuse, on both sides. Am not sure if the rates are higher than in the secular society. I have seen Hassidic police officers and ambulances. society.
@@ragathnor326 can you make a video about it?
Great content and well-delivered! Thank you for the balanced opinion.
I was always thankful for these small Mom and Pop shops because they continue to see value in businesses that big corporations don't see a profit in. For example, we had a small printer on the block of a magazine I used to work for. We were there many times a week with our small and immediate jobs and they were carefully done. You'd never get that kind of service at Staples. Also, lovely specialty food stores with deli, tea and candy. Delicious and healthy! Can't be beat! 👍
I also enjoyed that part very much. For me is the core of the community: based on everybody´s well being. This is an issue in almost every country and is also worth talking and writing about. You can take a look at Societies by looking at Youth and Motherhood. If the smallest, weakest or subaltern positions like motherhood often is are completely displaced or young people are breaking apart what is the worth of it? And why does the world doesn´t see the value of hasidic communites and want to demerit them instead? Thank You for this Video Frida!
So maybe if I wanted to start a printshop, I should see if Hasidim are interested? Especially if I want to reprint Hebrew and other religious texts
We see value in local mom and pops because they produce specialty items that we need, regardless of expense, basically.
So, it's not just the sentimental value, but it's the monetary value, as well.
Delicious? very. Healthy? Nu, nu, lol.
This was so informative! Thanks, Frieda for sharing!
Wonderfully imformative and thoughtfully presented! Thank you for posting.
Another great video, well put together, well informed and really interesting. Thank you
thanks Janis. I am glad you liked it.
I love and appreciate that although you (as far as I understood from this video) are no longer chassidish, you still present them in a respectful and positive light.
Thank you ❤🙏
Yes, she is very much to be appreciated that unlike some others that left the community and try to become popular by spreading lies (or sometimes it's true but only in their dysfunctional family) she is rather trying to set the record straight (although I guess leaving the community was most probably hard for her and she definitely struggled a lot as a result of growing up in the community).
She is worthy of all admiration and praise.
Thank you @Frieda
I enjoy watching your programs Frieda, but you know what we all want---*your* story
I'd love to see that!
Thank you, Frieda. I'm new to your channel but in just a few videos I have learned a lot. I am not Jewish and I have family members who live in Boro Park. Whenever we visit, I like to stay for several days and observe the rhythm and activities of the different days. The children playing, husbands and wives walking together with their little ones, the quiet of the Sabbath, the noise and activity of Sunday, when everyone seems to be out and about and some of the shops overflow onto the sidewalk. I always feel welcome and sometimes get to talk with some of the moms about their day. I hope to take your tour one day.
Frieda, thank you for the informative video. I grew up in a neighbourhood in London called Golders Green and I was always inquisitive about the Hasidic community.. I commend you for your eloquence and excellent research into this community. 💕🇦🇴🇬🇧
Thank you so much to inform us in such a direct honest way. From France with ❤.
This is an excellent video. Articulate and pleasant to listen to. Thank you.
Can you speak specifically regarding the perception that Hasidic are disproportionally using public services?
Thank you for sharing. We need more video as this one. It’s inspiring.
Another point that I think was missed here is they’re never really distracted by modern day technology till it’s absolutely necessary and I think that plays a huge roll.
I know, I always think, they are successful because they don’t grow up attached to the screen.
I definitely think it gives Hasidim an economic edge.
Thank you for this video, I learned so much on the Hasidic community.
Thanks @Freida very well put
I would also recommend to make a video explaining the communities PTSD (of the משכילים and early American Jews) on everything related to religion and how this influences everything in the community from technology to education to the resistance of change and how outside attempts to change it are only reinforcing this idea and are actually making things worse instead of helping.
I just discovered your videos and I find them well done and informative. I grew up in NY but knew nothing about this community other than their existence. There are aspects of this life that are admirable and can be learned from. Thank you.
Welcome Alice!
Thank you for educating us Frieda; I learned so much more! I had a Jewish roommate years ago, she was observant and shared with me some of the practice. Thank you again and Bless you!
Awesome Frieda. Great Job and very informative. Very close and knit community. God Bless to all His Children. Honesty and Respect ❤
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I love you all and hope you have a great day.
I have worked for Hasidic for decades and their love for family and community is amazing.
Thank you Your context is always full and informative ❤
Thank you Frieda, very informative and answering many of my questions unknowingly.
You only briefly mention the fact the Hasidic economy in Williamsburg would not be viable without a massive infusion of public money. They receive a large percentage of Section 8 vouchers for Brooklyn, and are accommodated by Hasidic landlords (frequently through under-the-table surcharges). More than 50% of the population in this community receives some sort of public assistance , including Medicaid, SNAP, etc - but none of that money is returned to the people who pay the taxes to fund it, because the spending is kept inside.
That is not true, because the store owners pay taxes on the profit they make from the money spent
^^ do you think the Hasidim just magically don’t pay taxes?
Right but a lot of them need it, not all Hasidic Jews are wealthy thats just a gross misconception.
Plus they’re using the public assistance in the way you’re supposed to, not just collecting benefits and then not working
I do not have any assistance programs at all, neither do most of my friends. I don’t believe that my community is taking advantage of the programs more than any other community.
I thoroughly enjoy the education you give with each video. I have Jewish roots but my ancestors “turned” Catholic during years of extreme persecution in Russia prior to WWII. In knowing this I am very driven to learn all I can about the various Jewish sects/cultures. Thank you for bringing this knowledge to the general public platform so others like me can learn more.
Likewise, only in my case my Sephardic Jewish ancestors were either forced to convert to Christianity or leave Portugal and Spain during the Spanish inquisition.
Well the Russians were also killing all the clergy due to their hatred of all religions during the 30’s-40’s,
So I’m sure being Catholic wasn’t any easier.
God bless.
This is another world to me and I enjoyed learning about it, thank you!
This is really informative and interesting. Clear. Concise. Excellent. Thanks / merci.
I think that the Hasidim set an example for even secular communities in how they focus on the small-scale, interpersonal work required to sustain a local community.
Obviously not everyone will share their religious beliefs, but certainly even people living in a Liberal/Pluralist context can see how their intense dedication to Localism and to serving the most immediate needs of ones' neighbors can benefit everyone, and give us a degree of self-sustainability from the giant, global, impersonal machine of thoughtless production/consumption.
this video is amazingly articulate and clear.
thanks my friend. Used some things from you...
@@FriedaVizelBrooklyn Repent or die twice
That was really interesting - thanks for diving into this topic!
It's amazing you're not only discussing their businesses but also their community. A unique one.
Im an outsider, but you are talking so clear, never heard such a voice
I’m in Alabama, a professional photographer and B&H has gotten a lot of my business over the years. They are a wonderful business. Very thankful for them. Cool to see you mention them. They don’t take orders on Shabbat. Very strong beliefs, so much respect for that. Christians, I am one, have not kept up our beliefs like we should.
The Amish and other conservative Anabaptists have. The Catholic SSPX is trying.
You have no idea how long I've wondered about this. Thanks so much!
Fascinating! We’ll produced and very informative!
Todah Rabah! Amazing explanation! Much needed! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Kali!
What a beautiful society! Thank you for sharing about the Hasidic economy and it's lovely society.
Lol, no it isn't lovely
If you’re a man, it’s better. You should listen to ex Hasidic women and girls…..
Well done!! Loved the segment
This is a good and unbiased video. Just very matter of fact. Well done!
👍👏😄I love the way she narrates, giving us a good understanding of the Hasidic Jew. Thank you
Thank you. We have a small Hasidic community here in Ormond Beach, Florida. My husband has asked me many times how the community supports itself. Since there is very little Kosher markets, businesses, etc. that we know of, I thought many work in Orlando and Jacksonville.
Very interesting video, Frieda. Thanks for sharing.
I just found your channel today and the first podcast I saw was with precious Pearl.
She was talking about her son and I learned so much about Jewish life and culture.
I hope you have her as a guest again soon. ❤
I am trying! I hope it happens soon, now with Passover finally behind us.
Happy to see this well done piece.... completely factual and not at all critical.
Thank you for this very educational video.❤
I had always wondered about this. Great video.
This video is very informative. I had always wondered about this. Thank you for giving me new insight. Your videos are thoughtful and you are very well-spoken.
Thank you!
So interesting. Thank you for sharing!
I grew up in Williamsburg Brooklyn I really enjoyed this video
First video I watched from you and subscribed loved your content!
One thing you left out is that many Hasidic Jews are in the construction industry
What a great video. Thank you for making it
How awesome. An amazing community. My respect for Hassidim soared with this lovely video/tour!
It's not as awesome at it seems, I'm from that community, and I say a lot of it is codependency and not something to be highlighted or boasted about, yes it has its UHNWI's and B&H's but this stuff Frieda is saying about how its challenges have gotten them more creative, for instance opening up a trade school, is actually very unethical because these schools typically charge a fortune profiting off the communities inability to get ahead in life, without fixing the problems at its core so ANYONE can go to trade school, or law school.
And I love how she refers to it as an education "industry" like that's something legitimate, when the majority of rabbi's are from the poorest earners you'll find, my brother is a rabbi, my father was a rabbi, my grandfather was a rabbi... the administration pockets most of the funds, while the rabbi's earn way less than an average schoolteacher.
Freida, It's nice and bubbly when you talk about it, but it's also subjective and not giving the viewers the full picture, and so I will fill in where you leave off..
Hi Frieda awesome information in this video thanks for putting together... After watching it I decided to subscribe to your channel for more. Have a good one.
New subscriber. Great job Frieda. Gracias for your hard work, very informative
Thanks for subbing and for the kind words!
Great video. Thank you for your work!
This is a very interesting video. I really enjoyed learning about the Hasidic economy.
I go to the Jewish building shows every year (NY, NJ & FL) it's amazing how many chasidem owned businesses there are that cater to the outside community, from building supplies, construction and all sort of services
When is the next fl show ?
@@alexjiff557 there are several
Construction industry?
I love finding out what I never knew I wanted to find out!
Frieda, Thank you. I have learned so much about Jewish orthodox life. Please keep them coming. God Bless, Maureen from Florida originally from Brooklyn
Thank you Maureen!
I like how they shared businesses with each other. I try to do this in Bolivia, but people have to be faithful to shop from each other.
This was an excellent video. Thanks.
I would recommend you to also show a glimpse into the diversification of the opinions by the Hasidim on their level, and how much campaigning goes in by the community leaders to bring community members to go along and how much it doesn't even help, be it on religious matters or on voting etc.
I think that the main part of the problem is that the secular world doesn't see all the internal dialogs, debates and opinions, and rather view all Hasidim as a cult which are following leaders without thinking, rather than seeing them as normal people with a different culture
New to your channel and living near Lakewood NJ, I have had much contact with the community in my work as a nurse and as a nursing professor ( half of each of our accelerated BSN program is made up of both male and female Hasidic students--which requires a previous college degree and specific prerequisites. They have smart phones, iPads. They are very good, high achieving students) My interaction both professional and personal has been positive. I do see a movement of younger Hasidim interacting and choosing professions in the secular community. Area hospitals in which I worked has many Orthodox nurses, a pharmacist, genetic counselor, speech pathology, dietician. They are very open to questions and interest in their community. We work well together. Most of their spouses also work. I am glad your videos dispel some of the myths that they do not work.
However, I am curious about the 'architect' you discussed. I am married to an architect and licensure requires a 5 year college program, well as an apprenticeship. How does one become an architect-with the required engineering courses-- without a college degree?? It seems that public safety would be compromised.
I worked for a law firm (with mostly Conservative and Reform Jewish and Catholic lawyers) whose land lord was an Hasidic Real Estate Group. Honest and drove a hard bargain, good landlords for lawyers . . . .
Spot on well narrated. I like you had left the community a long time and many people don't see it this way. Great job
Why'd to leave the community of you don't mind me asking
@@mazibukomail simply don't believe in God but I believe in religious freedom
Excellent video, very informative 👍😊. I watched another video and someone explained that in the Tora it says that if you have a field, you harvest 3/4 of it and you leave 1/4 for anyone who might need it. I think that charity is part of the way of life. We could all learn from that. Any community outside of its "home" sticks together and supports eachother. I am Portuguese born, South African raised and I have experienced this on both continents, people are drawn to people with the same language, religion, culture, it gives you a sense of belonging. So it's totally understandable that this community supports it's own. Again excellent video 👌
what a great show , you really have a knack .
Very interesting video. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it❤
30 years ago when I was a design student in New York City, I several times went to b&h photo to have my film developed, and have recently been looking at their online website to buy a camera lens. I did not realize they are Hasidic but at the top of the page it says they are closed for Sukkot! Freida I want to ask you how are the Hasidic architects licensed by the state of New York?
I live outside of the US where there are no Hasidic Jews in my little country so this video is quite helpful to learn about their way of life
Nice music selection. May I have a list of the soundtrack.
Thank you for this video!
Many Hasidim get paid under the table- cash business- and can do very well, and at same time get a lot of public assistance, which is why Hasidic zip codes have some of the highest levels of “poverty”. So cash business plus public assistance works very well.
Yep. Food stamps and internal jobs!
I think that with so many children, availability of remote educational resources and continuous emphasis on teaching kids to think, aka Talmud study, this community will see more and more prosperity.
Outstanding video. I especially liked the segment on your early years of work. In an unrelated areaI get a little concerned when I see Holland and Canada trying to control production through starvation of fertilizer (especially given that most light fertilizers are synthesized with natural gas conversion); attacks on the beef industry; and now Europe attacks kosher slaughter and meat preparation activities. Perhaps one future video might focus on threats to the availability of kosher food, and countering survival tactics. Thank you!.
Great video, as always. Thank you!
This is such an interesting video. I am fascinated by the orthodox lifestyle.
Wow!!! This was my first of your videos, but it will not be the last. After watching it, I’m now fascinated with this economy and am ready to start researching it. (I won’t because economics isn’t my thing. Lol.)
I could imagine that this economy would make an excellent doctoral thesis subject. I wonder if anyone has ever tracked the average time a dollar stays within the community.
You are correct! The velocity of money within the community is very high and is super important. Anything that decreases the velocity is no good.
Sunday dollars definitely stay within the community
wow so thorough and interesting. Thanks ❤
Amazing video thank you for this content.
That was informative and complete. A trend that has been happening over the last thirty years is the creation of new communities.
As someone who lived in Brooklyn for 20 years, I can answer that question with two words: Real estate.
What do you mean?
@@ameurus Hassidim have historically owned lots of real estate in Williamsburg and other parts of Brooklyn like Borough Park. When Williamsburg and the surrounding areas started getting hip and rents started soaring, many Hassidic building owners converted their properties to apartments, lofts, and condos. I had a Hassidic landlord briefly when I lived off of Myrtle Ave in the border area of Clinton Hill and south Williamsburg. Friends of mine had a condo in another Hassidic-owned building. Good for them, they made a wise investment: they bought up buildings when they were cheap and nobody wanted to live in Brooklyn, then made a killing in the real-estate boom.
@@valmarsiglia Thank you for a good explanation for non-locals:)
@@valmarsiglia my grandpa owned buildings in wmsbg. Eventually he had to sell them and now I’m basically penniless. I really wish my family held on to it.
@@jsw7814 Really sorry to hear.
This was fascinating. Thank you
Thank you for watching!
Thank you I appreciate you explaining everything.