The people calling him claiming to be lawyers are probably sitting next to the people claiming to be the collection agency demanding payment. They're probably both employees at the same office just calling people up and scamming them into paying anything they can get. Anyone calling anyone demanding payment or offering to get you out of trouble is all a scam!
After 6-7 years. I’d think they can’t collect anymore. I’d have advised him to ignore them because once you acknowledge the debt the click starts again. They’re probably reaching out since the statute of limitations is almost here then they’re SOL.
It's not a lawyer that wants to settle their debt. The old credit cards funds were purchased by or being a representative of the original company either or. So basically he just pays the debt for the settled amount or he can wait a few more years and call it a day since most will sell off or write off the debt.
Don't settle if it past SOL the burden of proof is on them the debt collector. I've been sued past SOL I won may case because they could show proof I made payment within SOL. They try some stupid spread sheet and I asked to back up the spread sheet with my account number I used or the confirmation number. They tried anything to make it stick they tried that I made a payment with my bank account they tried saying I mailed it, PayPal they even went as far as I payed with western union well where's the paperwork that shows I payed ect. I bet you anything they aint gonna be able to produce it.
He should demand written debt validation. These “lawyers” sound like scammers. Don’t pay a dime without verification, and bring up the statute of limitations.
If you are being sued by a credit card company. The Marshal would show up at you house serving papers. There would be a docket number with that. You are allowed to challenge the debt in court.
Make sure you answer your summons. Do not allow them to file a default judgement on you for not answering the summons. Make them prove in court that the debt is valid. if they don’t show, then ask the judge to stop all collection activity and dismiss the case. Also check your state’s statue of limitation. You can often have a case dismissed if it’s passed the statue of limitations. But if you don’t show up then a default judgement will be granted even though it’s passed the statue of limitations.
I have a paid off house and no payments. I will never use credit again. I was in a mess with credit. I had charge offs, late payments, etc. I checked my credit score for fun. It's a 528. I have no interest in raising it. I don't care if it was a 300.
I’m 19 and have a 759 credit score , just use it for food, gas, groceries, phone bill and that’s it you can build it with under $500 worth of buying. Then I get cash back for using these services. Really should consider it and instead of paying everything with a debit card, try using a credit card and pay it off right away.
He stated that he hasn’t paid on this debt in 6-7 years. If that’s the case, HE OWES NOTHING because the statute of limitations on debt (four years) in the State of Texas has run its course. Hopefully he filed an answer to this lawsuit (with or without an attorney) because if he ignored the summons, then the debt collector automatically won the case and the right to collect/garnish regardless of the statute of limitations. Hopefully he didn’t settle this debt either because if he did, he got robbed and Dave and Chris both gave him bad advice. As long as he hasn’t made any payments in more than four years on this defaulted debt, the debt collector has no legal grounds on which to collect but if they file the lawsuit and the respondent doesn’t answer the summons, the debt collector automatically wins by default.
A friend of mine in Texas is going through this, and she consulted a lawyer who said the statute of limitations is not four years in Texas, it’s much longer than that.
@@spankynater4242 your friend got bad legal advice. I confirmed with My friend who is a civil Attorney in San Antonio who specializes in debt collection law. Chapter 16 of the Texas Civil Practices and Remedies Code specifically states a four year statute of limitations and in certain instances it can be reduced to as little as two years. The only circumstance under which the statute can be extended indefinitely beyond four years is if there was criminal activity or negligence and/or intentional fraud involved in the accumulation of the debt.
Statute of limitations on debt in Texas is 4 years. If it's 6-7 years ago, there's a chance it's a meritless law suit if he hasn't paid or agreed to resume payments in more than 4 years.
Good point, in that case 500 buck tell them to kiss off. Their intimidation is working on this guy, he needs all the facts. They are hoping he gets scared.
Don't pay them period if it's past SOL they are gonna try to say you made a payment within SOL but even that the burden of proof is on them and you examining the proof. Don't accept a stupid spreadsheet that they will use. Show me the check I sent. So me the account number to the bank I used to pay it with ect. Watch they aint gonna be able to produce any of that.
u don't know what bills he has and whether or not he has kids. great money for someone single. not so much for someone with a family when it comes to extra money on hand
@dachicagoan Yep, that describes a lot of high earners. Just cause someone has a great income does not mean that they are not broke. This guy is a classic example of it.
It's beyond that time frame, but what happened the original company sold off debt to a company which is represented by lawyers and are trying to grab at money and really all those don't even affect your credit even though they can actually come into your checking account and grab your money with correcr paperwork
@@kateruterbories2692 Sure it does. Debt as it's transferred starts over for an additional 7yrs. If you even are in contact with them.or make a payment on a debt that is old it starts over.
@@bullonwallstreet only if you take credit for the debt. Always use the phrase "alleged" and never accept the debt as your own. Doesn't matter if it is or not. My friend was sued for a debt that didn't belong to her and we learned a lot about the Fair Debt Collection Act and the scumminess of debt collectors.
They didn't mention when he gets served the lawsuit to file a response in the court or else they'll default him and he'll be on the hook for the full amount and get garnished.
@@realpristine The bank reports the loss to the IRS & the IRS reports it as individual income at tax time. Plan on paying 25% for federal & along with state taxes if applicable.
@@realpristine I think people should be educated & not caught by surprise like a buddy of mine..... Just when he thought his nightmare was over it surfaced at tax time.
@@1132sweetie that is correct however if according to the debtors income tables if he/she is insolvent then a tax preparer can file a special form on the debtor's behalf claiming insolvency in which the debtor would be exempt from tax liability. Same thing happened to me in 2011 following the short sale of my home after the 2008 real estate crash. I was able to legally wipe out a $54k tax liability. This does not require a bankruptcy filing, simply proof that there is a certain lack of documented income in the tax filing year. Also, unemployment compensation does not count toward that number further strengthening the debtor's inability to pay.
There are laws in place to protect consumers (FCRA and FDCPA). Most likely they sue but don’t have the documentation to support it. Don’t be fearful. Understand your rights and then settle the debt with the original creditor. Do NOT pay an attorney.
It sounds like it’s a law firm retained by the original creditor to sue not a collector, in those cases the original creditor has documentation to prove you owe the debt .
@@bangladeshirealtor Not necessarily, and don't assume that. First of all the caller said this is 6-7 years old, which means this may be uncollectable at this point. Texas as a statute of limitations of 4 years for this type of collection. After 7 years, the negative information is removed from the credit report. This caller may not have to do ANYTHING, frankly. The law firm is just there to scare him, which it's working. You just need to know your rights, assert them, and be firm. Moreover, very few credit card companies would keep such a low balance for that long. It's likely that they sold this years ago and that in fact this is a collector. Regardless, it doesn't matter. The FCRA and FDCPA applies to the original creditor just as much to the collector. Record-keeping in the debt collections world is TERRIBLE. Even if this account were still collectible, it is not at all certain that any documentation could be produced to show this. I think this guy will be fine if he just takes a deep breath and keeps his wits about him.
@@brockb3692 that’s fair , I wasn’t assuming anything , I was just going off his call saying a law firm contacted him about a potential lawsuit regarding his past due debt . The law firm could go through charging him and causing an inconvenience. They are likely not to do so based on your detailed answer but we can’t assume they won’t .
@@bangladeshirealtor Thanks! And you're right to be cautious and proactive when dealing with these matters, for sure. Hard situation to deal with but you can survive!
And do NOT pay with a personal check. They will have the name of your bank and your account number. Also, don't get a cashiers check from your bank. Get a cashiers check from another bank.
Why are people in this country so weird about bankruptcy? When you have heavy debt and no way of paying it off, why is bankruptcy such a terrible option. Your credit is going to be fucked anyway if you don’t pay the cards.
I tried this however they said they wanted check stubs tax recs etc back info. I told them I would pay off a certain on a date within 30 days they basically didn't want to work with me so I told them do whst you want to do im not paying the full bc of the fees and im not giving my personal info
Yes I agree with this 100%. Is this one of those situations where the debt is sold to a collection agency? And then the collection agency reaches out to you? Because if so...I would do exactly what you said. And I don’t think there’s anything they can do about it
@@hyrumgomez3969 no sir I will not they didn't want to work with in the middle of a pandemic I made them communicate via letters I don't trust these ppl
I had the exact same thing happen and I was sued ... they took my paid for car and sold it auction and continued to pursue me. It was DISCOVER credit card ...and account was well over 15 years old ... I had to file bankruptcy to get out of the nightmare...
How can they take your car for unsecured credit card debt? I was told by an attorney that the very worst they can do is put a lien on my home that'll just sit there until/if I sell.
I think there's a statue of limitation, in some states the bank cannot go after you after statue of limitation is over. He may go look into that, and if the bank violates that law, you can go after them and sue them instead. Just a thought... (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, just a good neighbor) =)
If you were never served actual papers, it wouldn't be a mailed letter(a cop or official actually has to deliver it to you and if you aren't home enough times they'll tape it on your door), then they haven't filed a lawsuit. This seems like a scam. Call the county clerk or the civil court office and ask them to search your name to see if an actual suit has been filed. If you got a letter from a collection company saying they are going to sue you, more often than not that's just a bluff to try to get you to panic and call them so they can say they've got you on record and can reset the clock. If they are serving you papers, call the company suing you first and negotiate a payoff(have the money on hand and tell them what you can pay, don't ask for options) and make sure it is DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, otherwise they can come after you later on and the agreement you made to pay it off will not be admissible in court. The company suing you will then rescind the lawsuit. Blows my mind that Dave never tells people to make sure the debt is dismissed with prejudice. That written agreement means nothing without those words. The other thing to remember, I know Dave says not to give them details, but honestly in this day and age the companies have such good investigating that they will find your job, etc. in very short order.
All that for $4500?He should have just paid for it instead going through all this. He just borrowed money he didn't have and never live off a credit card if your not working. He could had just got a job through college. now filing bankruptcy over $4.5k is really dumb and was avoidable.
6k a month? I remember paying off 3k trade school loan for my wife while we took almost half a year to make 6k together. How many other holes is he in that he can't just pay off 4500 or a settlement of 2000 in a single month?
Hold up. This guy is pulling in $6k/month after tax and scared over a $3k settlement??? When he said he has no money I expected to hear of poverty wages.
Cam I hire a Forensic Accountant w/o a lawyer involved? My husband does not want me know ALL the financial for our company and personal accoumts/savings.
Capitol One horrendous in going after you with companies after they sell your name. Do bankruptcy, ends the madness. Glad I did. After six months your credit gets better after u open one credit card. Just one! No more.
How come you never mention the statute of limitations??? If it is zombie debt, they can sue and take chances that the person being sued is a no show. You do show up and it will be dismissed if you cite the SOL.
‘I’ve borrowed more than I should have’. ‘Oh dear....how sad...pay your feckin bills’. This is what is wrong in USA, borrow too much and then cry and blame everybody else’. Get rid of your truck that costs more than all your bills for 5 years. If I were Dave, I’d call 90% of the callers absolute idiots
The statute of limitations for paying debt in Texas is four years. These ppl don't have to pay a cent, and the debt collectors can be sued for the legal fees. Don't you know about debt statutes of limitations, Dave? UA-cam it!
I don’t mean to make light of his situation but he & his wife were probably thinking “man we got away with one”. 😆. FF 6-7 years later calling Dave Ramsey skaid as all get out because his past is coming back to haunt him out of the blue. Sounds like he’s in the closet whispering.
Crazy idea but pay the debt off. Come on it's only $4500 that's nothing...pay it off and tear up the card cause you obviously have no clue how a credit card works.
Did I off of hear right? Single income and debit off of being sued on it because off of $4,500. Can off of that they do think that of off that they can off do that on it? What?
The people calling him claiming to be lawyers are probably sitting next to the people claiming to be the collection agency demanding payment. They're probably both employees at the same office just calling people up and scamming them into paying anything they can get.
Anyone calling anyone demanding payment or offering to get you out of trouble is all a scam!
Right
Definitely
My exact thoughts
no not really but just cogs and widgets working. I did this for awhile most liekly we are willing to work with people because so many do not pay
After 6-7 years. I’d think they can’t collect anymore. I’d have advised him to ignore them because once you acknowledge the debt the click starts again. They’re probably reaching out since the statute of limitations is almost here then they’re SOL.
Their take home pay is actually pretty good, they should be able to settle the credit card on their own without getting a lawyer involved
Agreeed!
They should but they didn’t.
It's not a lawyer that wants to settle their debt. The old credit cards funds were purchased by or being a representative of the original company either or. So basically he just pays the debt for the settled amount or he can wait a few more years and call it a day since most will sell off or write off the debt.
Maybe. But we don't know what they're expenses are so that's impossible to say.
Don't settle if it past SOL the burden of proof is on them the debt collector. I've been sued past SOL I won may case because they could show proof I made payment within SOL. They try some stupid spread sheet and I asked to back up the spread sheet with my account number I used or the confirmation number. They tried anything to make it stick they tried that I made a payment with my bank account they tried saying I mailed it, PayPal they even went as far as I payed with western union well where's the paperwork that shows I payed ect. I bet you anything they aint gonna be able to produce it.
I hate hearing stories like this. I’ll never jump back in that snake pit (of having credit card debt).
So true! Snake 🐍 pit is the perfect analogy
Yoooo...you make videos right?Seen your stuff mate.Kinda good
CB, waiting for the pro CC ppl to weigh in on how he could use his awesome 2% cash back to pay this off!
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Appreciate it my man.
Dave referencing Perry Mason and Matlock...Chris jumping in to reference CSI as to not confuse the listeners under the age of 40. 😂
So many sitting home collecting that government money I’m surprised they didn’t binge those tv show on cable tv.
New Perry Mason is back on HBO. It's a fresh reference.
😀
Except CSI isn’t a courtroom procedural show.
Lmao I’m not even 30 and I know all 3 references 💪🏾
Guy sounds like a hostage or he is in hiding during a active shooter situation.
This comment lol
Well he has been careless with his money so he sure is hostage to his own decisions.
Yo 😂😂😂😂
😂. Right. The poor dude. God bless him to get it together. He’ll get there.
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He should demand written debt validation. These “lawyers” sound like scammers. Don’t pay a dime without verification, and bring up the statute of limitations.
He takes home 6k a month and is having trouble paying 4 grand in debt? I've paid bigger debts with less pay.........
This caller is living the life.
The more you make the more you can spend,right?
@@xxZerosumxx if you are careless yes
@Charles T (popping charles on the back of his hand) "you! Go and sit in the corner 😜
Don’t judge people you don’t know.
If you are being sued by a credit card company. The Marshal would show up at you house serving papers. There would be a docket number with that. You are allowed to challenge the debt in court.
Make sure you answer your summons. Do not allow them to file a default judgement on you for not answering the summons. Make them prove in court that the debt is valid. if they don’t show, then ask the judge to stop all collection activity and dismiss the case. Also check your state’s statue of limitation. You can often have a case dismissed if it’s passed the statue of limitations. But if you don’t show up then a default judgement will be granted even though it’s passed the statue of limitations.
FALSE INFORMATION. Its simple, ignore them.
I have no credit score but it feels so good not to have debt
I have a paid off house and no payments. I will never use credit again.
I was in a mess with credit. I had charge offs, late payments, etc. I checked my credit score for fun. It's a 528. I have no interest in raising it. I don't care if it was a 300.
I’m 19 and have a 759 credit score , just use it for food, gas, groceries, phone bill and that’s it you can build it with under $500 worth of buying. Then I get cash back for using these services. Really should consider it and instead of paying everything with a debit card, try using a credit card and pay it off right away.
I have a spectacular credit score and no debt. Just pay off your credit cards every month.
He stated that he hasn’t paid on this debt in 6-7 years. If that’s the case, HE OWES NOTHING because the statute of limitations on debt (four years) in the State of Texas has run its course. Hopefully he filed an answer to this lawsuit (with or without an attorney) because if he ignored the summons, then the debt collector automatically won the case and the right to collect/garnish regardless of the statute of limitations. Hopefully he didn’t settle this debt either because if he did, he got robbed and Dave and Chris both gave him bad advice. As long as he hasn’t made any payments in more than four years on this defaulted debt, the debt collector has no legal grounds on which to collect but if they file the lawsuit and the respondent doesn’t answer the summons, the debt collector automatically wins by default.
A friend of mine in Texas is going through this, and she consulted a lawyer who said the statute of limitations is not four years in Texas, it’s much longer than that.
@@spankynater4242 your friend got bad legal advice. I confirmed with My friend who is a civil Attorney in San Antonio who specializes in debt collection law. Chapter 16 of the Texas Civil Practices and Remedies Code specifically states a four year statute of limitations and in certain instances it can be reduced to as little as two years. The only circumstance under which the statute can be extended indefinitely beyond four years is if there was criminal activity or negligence and/or intentional fraud involved in the accumulation of the debt.
Statute of limitations on debt in Texas is 4 years. If it's 6-7 years ago, there's a chance it's a meritless law suit if he hasn't paid or agreed to resume payments in more than 4 years.
Good point, in that case 500 buck tell them to kiss off. Their intimidation is working on this guy, he needs all the facts. They are hoping he gets scared.
But he still has to respond to the suit. No one is going to make that point if he doesn't...
@@grayandgray yup, a letter to them pointing that out probably would be sufficient.
Don't pay them period if it's past SOL they are gonna try to say you made a payment within SOL but even that the burden of proof is on them and you examining the proof. Don't accept a stupid spreadsheet that they will use. Show me the check I sent. So me the account number to the bank I used to pay it with ect. Watch they aint gonna be able to produce any of that.
@Brian Waller absolutely
72K a year AFTER taxes? PAY YOUR DEBT! Sheesh.
Like, for real!
u don't know what bills he has and whether or not he has kids. great money for someone single. not so much for someone with a family when it comes to extra money on hand
@@michael567jober That is a lot of Money no matter if your married single or have a kids. He can definitely pay off 3 grand.
We all know of a guy who claims to be a billionaire that doesn't pay his debts,I would take a page out of his playbook.
@@turdferguson1567 sure, Al Capone!
$6k month? Pay off your debt.
Lots of ppl live really well on 3k a month!
@dachicagoan Bingo
@dachicagoan Sounds like 90% of Americans.
@dachicagoan Yep, that describes a lot of high earners. Just cause someone has a great income does not mean that they are not broke. This guy is a classic example of it.
Did he say "over seven years ago"? That could be beyond the statue of limitations.
It's beyond that time frame, but what happened the original company sold off debt to a company which is represented by lawyers and are trying to grab at money and really all those don't even affect your credit even though they can actually come into your checking account and grab your money with correcr paperwork
It is over the SOL. SOL in Texas is 4 years.
@@bullonwallstreet Doesn't matter who sold what debt to whom, past the statues of limitations.
@@kateruterbories2692 Sure it does. Debt as it's transferred starts over for an additional 7yrs. If you even are in contact with them.or make a payment on a debt that is old it starts over.
@@bullonwallstreet only if you take credit for the debt. Always use the phrase "alleged" and never accept the debt as your own. Doesn't matter if it is or not. My friend was sued for a debt that didn't belong to her and we learned a lot about the Fair Debt Collection Act and the scumminess of debt collectors.
This guy is gonna get scammed if he's not careful.
They didn't mention when he gets served the lawsuit to file a response in the court or else they'll default him and he'll be on the hook for the full amount and get garnished.
Can't get garnished in Texas
@@BrandyKpopcan you have your bank account seized? That’s what some of the paperwork I read.
$6k a month coming in and somehow he can't pay off a $4.5k credit card payment. What am I missing here?
probably lots of other debt
Bills
Spends all his money on starbucks and a new iphone yearly.
I get a new phone yearly i just don't pay for it I always do bogo offers and sell the extra phone and walla I got a free phone
Obviously not setting his spending priorities straight.
6k a month take home? He should be able to pay off the debt in 3 months easy
They probably have kids, and live in an expensive area.
@@winstonzeb2842
Still no excuse.
@@winstonzeb2842 Stop making random assumptions
We don't know his circumstances tbf
@@saulgoodman2018
But if he pays something it resets right?
So sad that 4500 can turn someone's life upside down
Keep in mind that when you settle a debt the unsettled part is considered income by the IRS & will be taxed as such.
How will it be taxed??
@@realpristine The bank reports the loss to the IRS & the IRS reports it as individual income at tax time. Plan on paying 25% for federal & along with state taxes if applicable.
@@1132sweetie good to know... it sounds like a settlement isn’t really worth it. Lol
@@realpristine I think people should be educated & not caught by surprise like a buddy of mine..... Just when he thought his nightmare was over it surfaced at tax time.
@@1132sweetie that is correct however if according to the debtors income tables if he/she is insolvent then a tax preparer can file a special form on the debtor's behalf claiming insolvency in which the debtor would be exempt from tax liability. Same thing happened to me in 2011 following the short sale of my home after the 2008 real estate crash. I was able to legally wipe out a $54k tax liability. This does not require a bankruptcy filing, simply proof that there is a certain lack of documented income in the tax filing year. Also, unemployment compensation does not count toward that number further strengthening the debtor's inability to pay.
There are laws in place to protect consumers (FCRA and FDCPA). Most likely they sue but don’t have the documentation to support it. Don’t be fearful. Understand your rights and then settle the debt with the original creditor. Do NOT pay an attorney.
It sounds like it’s a law firm retained by the original creditor to sue not a collector, in those cases the original creditor has documentation to prove you owe the debt .
@@bangladeshirealtor Not necessarily, and don't assume that. First of all the caller said this is 6-7 years old, which means this may be uncollectable at this point. Texas as a statute of limitations of 4 years for this type of collection. After 7 years, the negative information is removed from the credit report. This caller may not have to do ANYTHING, frankly. The law firm is just there to scare him, which it's working. You just need to know your rights, assert them, and be firm.
Moreover, very few credit card companies would keep such a low balance for that long. It's likely that they sold this years ago and that in fact this is a collector. Regardless, it doesn't matter. The FCRA and FDCPA applies to the original creditor just as much to the collector. Record-keeping in the debt collections world is TERRIBLE. Even if this account were still collectible, it is not at all certain that any documentation could be produced to show this.
I think this guy will be fine if he just takes a deep breath and keeps his wits about him.
@@brockb3692 that’s fair , I wasn’t assuming anything , I was just going off his call saying a law firm contacted him about a potential lawsuit regarding his past due debt . The law firm could go through charging him and causing an inconvenience. They are likely not to do so based on your detailed answer but we can’t assume they won’t .
@@bangladeshirealtor Thanks! And you're right to be cautious and proactive when dealing with these matters, for sure. Hard situation to deal with but you can survive!
It’s usually not the original creditor going after the debt, they will usually sell it to a debt collector by then.
And do NOT pay with a personal check. They will have the name of your bank and your account number. Also, don't get a cashiers check from your bank. Get a cashiers check from another bank.
It could be past statue of limitations, he can file a motion to dismiss, what horrible advise
He is in Texas. He should record the phone call with the collection agency.
Ignore the debt collectors.
He was never served.
The debt collectors threatened to sue.
True. Unless there’s a court summons, there is no lawsuit.
Dave needs a bigger billboard than those bankruptcy lawyers!
Ms Bee, he has one on the east side of I65, just south of Nashville. Can't miss it!
he should put one right next to their billboard LOL
@@justinacase2623 Haha I guess I just found one more reason why I need to visit Nashville! I've heard great things about the city!
@@moneybee come on! I'll meet you there. Tour Ramsey Solutions.
Same is happening to my husband. He got it when he had a job but list that job. He became a fulltime dad .
Why are people in this country so weird about bankruptcy? When you have heavy debt and no way of paying it off, why is bankruptcy such a terrible option. Your credit is going to be fucked anyway if you don’t pay the cards.
Pay your debts.
Tell that to millions of american people using their creidt cards
@@unfairsanic5089 He just did
@@ClaxtonBay123 but most americans will refuse and not all of them watch youtube
The amount of money you'd have to pay a lawyer to settle this would cost more than just settling on your own.
He makes 6 grand a month and cant pay his bills......
this!
Thank you for this advice I'm going through this after covy
Very helpful. I hope the gentlemen got this all squared away.
I tried this however they said they wanted check stubs tax recs etc back info. I told them I would pay off a certain on a date within 30 days they basically didn't want to work with me so I told them do whst you want to do im not paying the full bc of the fees and im not giving my personal info
Yes I agree with this 100%. Is this one of those situations where the debt is sold to a collection agency? And then the collection agency reaches out to you? Because if so...I would do exactly what you said. And I don’t think there’s anything they can do about it
Tell them to eat dirt. You run this show, not them.
@@hyrumgomez3969 yes thats exactly what happened they had horrible reviews
Nicole Hill So have you paid them at all? You could probably get away with not paying them but I’m not 100% sure
@@hyrumgomez3969 no sir I will not they didn't want to work with in the middle of a pandemic I made them communicate via letters I don't trust these ppl
He needs to sell the car.
If this over 4 years old he can’t be sued. It’s a time barred debt in Texas.
Statute of limitations is up..
I had the exact same thing happen and I was sued ... they took my paid for car and sold it auction and continued to pursue me. It was DISCOVER credit card ...and account was well over 15 years old ... I had to file bankruptcy to get out of the nightmare...
You should have gone to court. You would have won if it was past SOL
How can they take your car for unsecured credit card debt? I was told by an attorney that the very worst they can do is put a lien on my home that'll just sit there until/if I sell.
I think there's a statue of limitation, in some states the bank cannot go after you after statue of limitation is over. He may go look into that, and if the bank violates that law, you can go after them and sue them instead. Just a thought... (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, just a good neighbor) =)
The banks aren’t the ones who go after you, nor are they the ones who freeze your bank accounts, that is done by the courts.
Poor guy sounds so scared.
Why are you borrowing money you don’t have? Just because you didn’t pay the debt for 7 years, doesn’t mean that they can let you go.
Exactly !! They borrow and then become outraged when banks come to charge
He’s getting scammed. Statute of limitations for collections in Texas is only four years, and he says this debt is from six years ago.
he forgot to mention his big car payments.
Exactly. They just want luxury to impress other and then find themselves in bankruptcy
Statue of limitations on debt in Texas is 4 years.
I don't know how this affects a law suit, but it sounds like they are just trying to scare him.
If they try to sue him, he can countersue.
Statute, not "statue".
I’m in baby step 6 - it’s boring because it’s going to take 8 years. But, after listening to calls like these - I’m happy to be in 6😁
Guaranteed 100% this video scared alot of people Haha
Pure comedy for me.
I would love to see Dave reference “save dat money” by lil dicky lol
Woww! Really good advice👏🏽
How dare they want the money they loaned you back!!
If you were never served actual papers, it wouldn't be a mailed letter(a cop or official actually has to deliver it to you and if you aren't home enough times they'll tape it on your door), then they haven't filed a lawsuit. This seems like a scam. Call the county clerk or the civil court office and ask them to search your name to see if an actual suit has been filed. If you got a letter from a collection company saying they are going to sue you, more often than not that's just a bluff to try to get you to panic and call them so they can say they've got you on record and can reset the clock.
If they are serving you papers, call the company suing you first and negotiate a payoff(have the money on hand and tell them what you can pay, don't ask for options) and make sure it is DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, otherwise they can come after you later on and the agreement you made to pay it off will not be admissible in court. The company suing you will then rescind the lawsuit. Blows my mind that Dave never tells people to make sure the debt is dismissed with prejudice. That written agreement means nothing without those words. The other thing to remember, I know Dave says not to give them details, but honestly in this day and age the companies have such good investigating that they will find your job, etc. in very short order.
My little brother went through this I wish we had this video sooner
That's a pretty scary letter to receive 😲
Why? They created this and knew it was inevitable.
Statute of limitations for most of these things is 4 years in Texas. Solid affirmative defense if you answer properly. You’d owe zero.
actual financial literacy is being taught by Dave
They tell you on the phone they are a debt collector not a credit collector
All that for $4500?He should have just paid for it instead going through all this. He just borrowed money he didn't have and never live off a credit card if your not working. He could had just got a job through college. now filing bankruptcy over $4.5k is really dumb and was avoidable.
They borrow money to live a life that impresses others and then they don't want to pay it, anyway...
At $6,000 a month the courts probably wouldn't let him file bankruptcy if he wanted to but it would be stupid anyway.
Where did you get that he’s filing bankruptcy? SMH
Making $6000/month and can’t pay off $3000? That’s very odd. Sounds like you’re living well above your means...
Of course it is. Want to live a life of luxury and then have no money to pay debts
Once your credit card debt is in collection you need not to pay the full balance and you can negotiate the price down
In Texas they can’t come after you legally after 3 years.
That is probably why they are pestering him about paying just to reset the clock.
@@waterbottle4782 most likely
6k a month? I remember paying off 3k trade school loan for my wife while we took almost half a year to make 6k together. How many other holes is he in that he can't just pay off 4500 or a settlement of 2000 in a single month?
Dave Ramsay smiles like Rachel
Collector agent: "Hi my name is Bob Smith, please give me your money and infos".
When you make a mortgage payment they tell you they are a debt collector not a stupid credit collector
Keeping up with the Joneses
6K a month take home? Pay the CC
Hold up. This guy is pulling in $6k/month after tax and scared over a $3k settlement??? When he said he has no money I expected to hear of poverty wages.
That should be past the statute of limitations
It's sometimes hard to hear and fully understand the callers due to bad audio quality. Because English is not my first language and I'm sad.
Relatable
If you can read English turn on the auto generated captions.
@@paulr9150 theyre usually not very good
If have a time stamp of a part you want to understand we can relate it to you
English is my third language and I understood him.
Just remember to watch how Dave reacts. Then you can understand what was said.
Statue of limitations is expired. Dont pay anything
I love these 2 guys!
Love hearing this and knowing what to say in this situation BUT so sad to have gotten to this stage in the first place
Statue of limitations has passed :) henhouse have ignored them an changed his phone number :)
Statute, not "statue".
Isn't the statue of limitations 4 years?
6000 per month and you can’t pay 3000 off? Waste all of our time listening to this call
Is having a paper taped to your fence considered being served?
Im going to call to negotiate- what do i include in my response to the court?
You should have an attorney write a letter for you
The caller is a major beta.
@dachicagoan If he was a broke alpha, he wouldn't be in this same situation lol! He doesn't have a clue..
Check Texas Law..they cant sue you..
Check your credit report if it not on there don’t ever pay that
Run it up & they'll be after you! Reach out to JDA Financial he'll get you right here in Dallas aswell.
SPAM
Cam I hire a Forensic Accountant w/o a lawyer involved? My husband does not want me know ALL the financial for our company and personal accoumts/savings.
You need a divorce.
You can get this done in a legal separation.
Capitol One horrendous in going after you with companies after they sell your name. Do bankruptcy, ends the madness. Glad I did. After six months your credit gets better after u open one credit card. Just one! No more.
How come you never mention the statute of limitations??? If it is zombie debt, they can sue and take chances that the person being sued is a no show. You do show up and it will be dismissed if you cite the SOL.
I heard that Credit card collectors can take your Roth IRA.
‘I’ve borrowed more than I should have’. ‘Oh dear....how sad...pay your feckin bills’. This is what is wrong in USA, borrow too much and then cry and blame everybody else’. Get rid of your truck that costs more than all your bills for 5 years. If I were Dave, I’d call 90% of the callers absolute idiots
The statute of limitations for paying debt in Texas is four years. These ppl don't have to pay a cent, and the debt collectors can be sued for the legal fees. Don't you know about debt statutes of limitations, Dave? UA-cam it!
ask the lawyer to verify the original debt first. that's your right.
I don’t mean to make light of his situation but he & his wife were probably thinking “man we got away with one”. 😆. FF 6-7 years later calling Dave Ramsey skaid as all get out because his past is coming back to haunt him out of the blue. Sounds like he’s in the closet whispering.
If you could just pay $400 to make all credit card debt go away like magic nobody would issue credit cards anymore.
That is 72k after taxes.. that is pretty good. He should be able to settle this in a lump sum for 2.5k.
$6k/mo and no money? C'mon
Earn $6k and spend $7K.
These people have no head. Only lives on appearances
Doesn't Texas have a statue of limitation for suing for debt isn't it like 3 years?
Getting a credit card is not eveyone👈
They are not going to do anything... it's just scare tactics
God bless Dave Ramsey he has saved millions of wrecks like me.
He brings in 6K after taxes every month and he can’t payoff $4500? Where is all that money going?
File a motion to dismiss easy
Crazy idea but pay the debt off. Come on it's only $4500 that's nothing...pay it off and tear up the card cause you obviously have no clue how a credit card works.
Did I off of hear right? Single income and debit off of being sued on it because off of $4,500. Can off of that they do think that of off that they can off do that on it? What?