JARRY IS LIFE.omg i love them so much there is so much passion even when they fight.thank you hollyoaks for this couple,YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL WITH THESE TWO,DONT FUCK IT UP
At least it's Harry chasing after James now. At this point, he is just so indifferent towards Ste with all the stuff he has going on it makes Ste look dumb and clueless. Their 'relationship' is just stressing Harry out at this point. END IT. I'm also wondering whether Ste will be questioning any of this before the wedding. James showing up out of nowhere dropping this bombshell over Harry's family would be a dead give away to a normal person considering the history between them.
I don't understand Harry sometimes... He says he's in a relationship with James but still wants to marry Ste. James has always been there for him when he was in need, but now James clearly needs someone to lean on and Harry just doesn't care. He should know that James tends to lash out whenever he's feeling hurt. That boy needs to get his feelings sorted out, I can't stand to see James hurting.
This is such a mess. Of course James is in pain not just because of Harry, he's just been released from jail for murder (which he genuinely believed he did - which harry should know takes a massive toll on you), his abusive father is town and he just needs someone that is on his side to lean on. His mother is hardly reliable in that way, as she has proven in the past. But he shouldn't have taken that out on Harry's family for sure, they have their own pain to deal with. Harry stringing him along is what is causing this mess, Harry should realize that by now. Though Tegan going to James wasn't her smartest move, She could have gone to Sami or Simone, both would have been better options. (Apparently we won't see James/Harry next week, so how they will make up to make the rest of the autumn trailer scenes make sense, we'll have to see, though Harry needs to leave Ste for sure.)
I love James, but what he did was cruel. Of course the only reason why he is being written as a bitter d*ck is because Hollyoaks desperately needs to remind the viewers that we are meant to root for Starry and especially for golden boy Ste. Not for Jarry and certainly not for James. But sorry Hollyoaks it's not working, James is still the best character in the show!
I don't agree with what he did. But Harry is stringing him along only, using him. With everything that's gone on with James and the fact that Harry is playing with his emotions can't really blame him though.
Starshii 👍Finally! The best and sensible comment about James's outburst. I totally agree with you. James is the most interesting character in Hollyoaks. I'm getting fed up with "golden boy Ste". Forgiving, easy-going Ste...There's too much of Ste... 😡
Why are people randomly forgetting that James is a truly nasty character and always has been? We've seen how he has been abused and that has added layers to his character and made him empathetic but that doesn't change the fact that he is a villain. I for one am happy that they still portray his bitterness and his dark side - soaps have a terrible habit of explaining why a villain is the way they are and then suddenly changing their personality and attempting to erase their past misdeeds as if the tragedies they have suffered justify the crimes they have committed. James is currently the best character on the show and they shouldn't try to go down the simplistic route with him.
@@BTSisMyUniverse68 Where did I day he was worse than Mac and Buster? Just because they are worse than James doesn't mean he isn't a villain. That's a ridiculous comment
"And what about the pain I'm in?" Woow, perfectly written👌🏼 James finally daring to confront Harry! Telling him that he's not second fiddle and not a man chases after someone! Yeah, you earn that self respect James!
What James did was bad but i got how he did what he did. He hurt and James is James. But Harry will soon forgive him and get back to him bc Harry loves James and they r meant to be. #jarry
ice queen Oh yeah Jarry is so much better isn't it!? James wants Harry to leave his dying sister for him!? When Ste brought Tony back for Harry and the family I can say what I want thank you.
Which is why this storyline doesn`t make sense. Cause when Harry was faithful to Ste, Harry was the one behaving like an adult, and who made all the sacrifices to make the relationship work. So it doesn`t make sense he all of sudden should be this needy person, nor that he even would have gone near James after what James did to both him and his father. James` obsession with, and need to control, Harry is sick and twisted. He acts out against him every time Harry doesn`t do or behave as James wants him to. James clearly is a psychopath who enjoys manipulating people much more than he enjoys their company or personality.
Yep this wasn't just James's fault it was also Tegans, and also Harry seriously needs to make his mind up cuz the wedding is getting closer so he better choose the right man.
This Harry guy is unbelievable... Every time he needs someone to help him he stands at James door step. And now he feels contempt for him? That's one of the feelings I feel for him. Please James wake up. This guy is nothing but bad for you a selfish unloyal and nasty person who will never love you and give you what you deserve = a happy relationship.
keep smile exactly this all he cares about is himself he’s too wrapped up in himself to even care about anyone else he’s a disgusting excuse for a human being.
He's just angry. Anyone can see that. He does care about James otherwise he wouldn't be risking everything again and again to check on him and wanting James to talk to him about things that are bothering him rather than just having sex.
I WON'T defend what James did he had no remorse for what he did and when Harry confronts him James tries to make it about him Harry needs to be with his family atm I can't wait to see what Diane says to Tegan
James really need to forget about Harry, I know he won’t but for Harry to not say I love you and the most important thing for him is to keep his secret sigh. James did do a very nasty thing but forever support James.
Honestly HO, by now you know very well we want Jarry together no matter what. Because it's drama, and because James brings out an interesting side in Harry. Let them be cunning and fucked up together. Make them the evil overlords of Hollyoaks, loyal to each other and no one else 😂
KING Dan Productions I completely get that but James telling those innocent kids was too much, he could have approached it in a better way with destroying the lives of Rose, Ant and Dee Dee.
NO. A lawyer IS responsible for what he/she says or does. These types of cases can be challenged and fought in closed court, so neither the children involved, nor anyone except the parties and the doctor/surgeon who needs to know who to address about what in regard to the child`s treatment, will be informed. If what is meant to have happened here, was that James informed Dee Dee Tegan was Dee Dee`s biological mum, he could be finished as a lawyer. Not only has he revealed confidential client to attorney information, with Dee Dee`s health in mind, he could have been endangering a child`s life too.
Have you realise that if u had a daughter that could be dying would you not want to tell then u your daughter before it to late cuz remember when diane tony took her all she think they are her parents while tegan is left out in cold it not nice to see your own kid dying an complete strangers are there not the kid real mum
But what if the shock of learning this caused medical complications for the child, made her so upset she accidentally hurt herself - or with how Dee Dee`s brain is effected by her illness - she came to think other things were not true too? Perhaps even thought the hospital was not a hospital, but a prison or an alien space ship? James should never have spoken to Dee Dee directly. It should have been handled behind closed doors in court, so neither Dee Dee, nor anyone else - except from the judge and the doctor/surgeon responsible for Dee Dee`s treatment - would have been in the know.
Wow. I just saw what James did and people still love James? Wild? What is it about him that is redeemable? That he can blame all his evil deeds on someone else from ages ago?
Marky Ibarra Are you seriously trying to justify ABUSE?!??! People like you are the exact reason that abuse is a thing. You lot are so narrow-minded and oblivious to what abuse really is.
ice queen Thanks. It's sad that the Kids had to find out this way! James is nothing but a horrible and I mean HORRIBLE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Romeo needs to get to know him and try to take his mind off of Harry. But he shouldn't tell James that Romeo is his Son now's not the time. Romeo needs to know more about his Grandfather Mac and somehow find a way to show Alfie what he's really like. But he shouldn't do it alone he needs help. Probably either Prince, Lily, Hunter, Cindy, Tom or Juliet. What do you think? 🤔
Harry deserves better than Ste or James - and some improvement in storylines, and a more true to character storyline development wouldn`t go amiss either.
God I hate the writers of Hollyoaks cause they are recycling the same drama over and over again making the actors look like ass*****.Why can't the stories be good like Downton Abbey cause it gets better and better on every episode.
“I am not a man who begs!” *Begged Ellie to forgive him and making Sami the villain and desperately keeps trying to get Harry away from Ste to be with him.* Oh absolutely, James. Your word isn’t too contradicting at all(!) 😂
True. but it is an open question whether he actually wants Harry - or he just wants to steal him off Ste, as revenge for Ste sleeping with JP when JP and James were an item.
ice queen If look at James` relationships, what they all have had - and have - in common, is James` need to be in control over his partner. When he loses that control, or feel his partner is starting to take up too much space, he deliberately sabotages the relationship. He belittled Scott when he started to find his own footing in their relationship, decided to prostitute Harry after barely having met him (was that because he wanted to feel to have power over him, rather than have him as an equal partner? I think the evidence support such a conclusion much more than this idea of James being in love with Harry - or Harry with him. I suspect both James believes he is manipulating Harry, and Harry that he is manipulating James - off course the only victim here is Ste and his kids, who expects Harry to form a family with them). James through Kyle out of the house when Kyle suggested they were good together. But worse of all was the revenge he served JP, after he discovered JP and Ste had spent a night together. When someone purchases a vintage car as a gift for their lover, only to use it to scare the living daylights out of the same lover - first by driving it like a mad man with the lover as passenger, and then by pretending the lover`s ex is in the booth when the car is being pushed over a cliff. Someone who went to all that trouble, and held so much anger is not likely to let it rest until he has humiliated Ste, who was the other party to humiliate James himself, in equal amounts. And first seducing Harry, and then when Ste is about to marry him, or has married him, inform Ste about Harry and James many meet ups, is something a sick and twisted mind like James would consider significant payback. That he would not only hurt Ste and Harry, but also Ste`s kids and Harry and Ste`s family and friends too, is of no significance to a psychopath like James. Cause in his mind, he would have regained control and power, and proved to both Ste and Harry no one messes with James. I am afraid the only thing James feels over Harry is power. Knowing that the more he makes Harry believe he is being loved, the more control James will have over him, and the more clever and powerful James will feel when he reveals it has all been a big scam to get revenge of Ste for, in James` eyes, ruining his relationship with JP, and on Harry for having opted for Ste instead of him. If you remember James made a play for Harry even before the £10 000 night. When Ste wrongly assumed James to have the hots for him, and when Harry told James to back off, James made it clear it was Harry he was interested in - not Ste. I believe Harry opting for a homeless and unemployed ex junkie, when he could have had James instead, was more than James` ego could take. So he concocted the plan to first prostitute and then to extort Harry about it afterwards. By making Harry a prostitute, he no longer, in James` eyes, was worthy of James anyway - so it wouldn`t feel a loss to James he couldn`t get him. James is a snob, and a very shallow one at that. He chose JP cause JP was presentable among the professionals James considered himself to belong with. When he thought Scott was beneath him as a boyfriend, how could he then have been with a former prostitute like Harry. For someone like James that would simply not do. Even if he should have developed real feelings for Harry, while pretending to have done so, because of who James is, how his mother has brought him up and how important image is to him. A former prostitute as his boyfriend would never even have been considered. Should Ste dump Harry after James` revelation, James probably would have kept Harry on as a secret lover/kept man he expected to be there every time he wanted his "services." But a real relationship - no, I am afraid James is too much of both a snob and control freak for that to be an option. He wants someone he has power over and can control - not an equal partner with a mind and wants of his own.
Ha! And i thought James only wanted to break Harry and Ste's Family aka (Ste, Leah and Lucas) up but now his Ex-Step Sister Dee Dee his Half Sister Rose and his Half Brother Ant? Along with his Father Tony his Step Mother Diane, his Step Sister Sinead? What is wrong with you James? Why are you now being such a horrible Male to Harry and his Family? 😣😫😤🤯🤬😠😡 Idk about you guys? But maybe James will end up being like his old Man one day! 😲😮😰😱😨
Everyone has a reason why they are who they are. Mac probably has one too. James was just meant to be horrible. He's old enough to be the man he wants to be. He is his mother's son, and his father's son.
Me neither. He is too deliberately cruel, manipulative, ruthless and controlling. I neither trust him nor find much to like about him. And this background they have invented for him of having been abused by Mac, I find as convincing as a polar bear in the Sahara!
James is the most selfish person ever. Lets make a dying girls life more miserable because you don’t like your position as the sidepiece. But continue with your “poor James” comments.
Finally someone with open eyes and functioning brain. I cannot believe why someone even would think it possible for a psychopath like James to be paired up with anyone, with the track record he has had of cruelly manipulating and hurting everyone he has been with from Scott and JP to Harry and Kyle?! His psychopathic behavior and mindset is off the charts many times. Had he just been selfish, I could have lived with it. It is the cruel manipulations and obsessive need for control I cannot abide with. In real life, people so obsessed with control, could come to kill to get it back - and win (in their eyes) - should they feel to lose control, or be outsmarted by someone. This type of personality is seriously scary people.
ice queen Never said Harry wasn’t selfish. You’re really trying to defend someone who verbally attacked three little children as a form of revenge on Harry. A grown ass man going after children? That ain’t cute honey.
Stop with the "Poor James" comments!? How can anyone defend when he did telling those kids that out of revenge because Harry doesn't love him back and loves Ste anyone who wants Harry with James are messed up in the head.
"Messed up in the head" is a little strong. But I too find it odd someone actually can root for James and Harry to be in a relationship with each other, with the background they have. James paying Harry for sex, only to use it to extort Harry to get his father to let James` mother take over Harry`s father`s business. How Harry could even look at James without filling up with content, is beyond me. I used to like the character, but with all the weird storyline developments there have been, he is getting tough to connect with anything real and genuine. Instead I hope Kyle will return to the person he was when had his first lunch with Darren and Nancy. That kind of charm, humor and intelligence Hollyoaks needs more of. Too much of the show is focused around negative emotions and situations. I blame reality tv. The poor acting and scripted twists and turns there make it difficult for people to separate true emotion and intentions from fake and deceptive ones. Reality tv also give a very one sided view of both characters/contenders and the issues they are involved in. In turn making the viewers feel clever when they cheer for the right one, and as a consequence are fooled into thinking they can tell what is what just like that. So when they watch soaps like Hollyoaks, they make up their mind there and then about what is right and wrong, true and false - purely based on what they see in that scene. Neither taking into account there could be more and different information still to emerge, nor if what has happened in previous scenes and storylines the character have been involved in makes the conclusion they jump to reasonable. And when Hollyoaks tends to cater their storylines to what the fans wants - most storylines and characters end up being so self-contradicting it is hard to make sense of any of it.
If we use that kind of mindset then who wants Starry together are messed up in the head too considering how much shit they've put each other through so stop being a hypocrite team Starry and if people want to feel for James over your precious Ste then let them and get over it.
Maria Shaukat I'm sorry but Ste brought Tony back for Harry and the family what did James do drop that bombshell on KIDS because Harry doesn't love him back so you shut up defend your precious James.
@@starryhollyoaks2291 Yep and Harry will still no doubt cheat on him. Yeah great couple aren't they? And it doesn't erase everything bad that Starry have done to each other just because Ste brought him back and is being decent for once. Tony has been like a dad to Ste and he wanted him back so got him. Not that much of a big deal tbh and I wouldn't say it was all for Harry. At the end of the day Ste can pretend to be the best person in the world and Harry would still cheat on him. And yeah I'll defend James because I know he isn't a saint. I don't know whether your insecure about why many people are supporting James over Ste or whatever but calling people messed up for it is so wrong. You act like anyone who defends James or Jarry is so bad when Ste and Harry are hardly saints themselves and the crap that Starry have done to each other isn't any less. I don't care who you support but stop embarrassing yourself by trying to pretend Starry are any better and getting on your high horse. Please remember what your favourite character and ship have done in the past before you do that.
Maria Shaukat I know Ste not a saint but yeah I defend him as much as I want and Starry so don't tell me who can I ship and I can comment on these videos it's a free country and I said people who ship "Jarry" are messed up because James wants Harry to leave his family when they need him leave his dying sister and you think that's "Cute"!?
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Even in scenes like this their chemistry is over the top.
JARRY IS LIFE.omg i love them so much there is so much passion even when they fight.thank you hollyoaks for this couple,YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL WITH THESE TWO,DONT FUCK IT UP
At least it's Harry chasing after James now. At this point, he is just so indifferent towards Ste with all the stuff he has going on it makes Ste look dumb and clueless. Their 'relationship' is just stressing Harry out at this point. END IT. I'm also wondering whether Ste will be questioning any of this before the wedding. James showing up out of nowhere dropping this bombshell over Harry's family would be a dead give away to a normal person considering the history between them.
Why are they both such messes lmao. Just goes to show that they are truly meant for each other
I don't understand Harry sometimes... He says he's in a relationship with James but still wants to marry Ste. James has always been there for him when he was in need, but now James clearly needs someone to lean on and Harry just doesn't care. He should know that James tends to lash out whenever he's feeling hurt.
That boy needs to get his feelings sorted out, I can't stand to see James hurting.
This is such a mess. Of course James is in pain not just because of Harry, he's just been released from jail for murder (which he genuinely believed he did - which harry should know takes a massive toll on you), his abusive father is town and he just needs someone that is on his side to lean on. His mother is hardly reliable in that way, as she has proven in the past. But he shouldn't have taken that out on Harry's family for sure, they have their own pain to deal with. Harry stringing him along is what is causing this mess, Harry should realize that by now. Though Tegan going to James wasn't her smartest move, She could have gone to Sami or Simone, both would have been better options.
(Apparently we won't see James/Harry next week, so how they will make up to make the rest of the autumn trailer scenes make sense, we'll have to see, though Harry needs to leave Ste for sure.)
I love James, but what he did was cruel. Of course the only reason why he is being written as a bitter d*ck is because Hollyoaks desperately needs to remind the viewers that we are meant to root for Starry and especially for golden boy Ste. Not for Jarry and certainly not for James. But sorry Hollyoaks it's not working, James is still the best character in the show!
I don't agree with what he did. But Harry is stringing him along only, using him. With everything that's gone on with James and the fact that Harry is playing with his emotions can't really blame him though.
Starshii 👍Finally! The best and sensible comment about James's outburst. I totally agree with you. James is the most interesting character in Hollyoaks. I'm getting fed up with "golden boy Ste". Forgiving, easy-going Ste...There's too much of Ste... 😡
Why are people randomly forgetting that James is a truly nasty character and always has been? We've seen how he has been abused and that has added layers to his character and made him empathetic but that doesn't change the fact that he is a villain. I for one am happy that they still portray his bitterness and his dark side - soaps have a terrible habit of explaining why a villain is the way they are and then suddenly changing their personality and attempting to erase their past misdeeds as if the tragedies they have suffered justify the crimes they have committed. James is currently the best character on the show and they shouldn't try to go down the simplistic route with him.
@@jimbobmitchell5193 I'm sorry but Buster and Mac are way worse, so I'll choose James everytime
@@BTSisMyUniverse68 Where did I day he was worse than Mac and Buster? Just because they are worse than James doesn't mean he isn't a villain. That's a ridiculous comment
Harry please, you be right in his arms whenever you need a shoulder to cry on like always; and I feel bad for james !
"And what about the pain I'm in?"
Woow, perfectly written👌🏼 James finally daring to confront Harry! Telling him that he's not second fiddle and not a man chases after someone! Yeah, you earn that self respect James!
What James did was bad but i got how he did what he did. He hurt and James is James. But Harry will soon forgive him and get back to him bc Harry loves James and they r meant to be. #jarry
linh nguyen lu khanh Your deluded
LOL...how bout you keep shipping your ship and leave Jarry shipper comments alone? I wont waste my time on arguing with you.
Harry I’m sure you’ll be jumping into his bed later anyways don’t lie to yourself x
I've just written the excat same thing
Harry laughing about James' pain. Unbelievable... after James was the only one holding him up when he was hurting smh
Harry... I'll gladly slap you in your face! Love James,his character is soo real
Harry will forgive James I know ♥
Hend Mohamed Your deluded
ice queen Oh yeah Jarry is so much better isn't it!? James wants Harry to leave his dying sister for him!? When Ste brought Tony back for Harry and the family I can say what I want thank you.
Harry should be taking to Tegan about this. Not James, after all, it's still Tegan mess.
man what james did was really shitty but im really enjoying the tension between these two in this clip
This is good drama... but, how long will Harry keep his word? 😂😂
James can do so much better than that little boy, Harry is only ever interested in James when he needs something from him.
Which is why this storyline doesn`t make sense. Cause when Harry was faithful to Ste, Harry was the one behaving like an adult, and who made all the sacrifices to make the relationship work. So it doesn`t make sense he all of sudden should be this needy person, nor that he even would have gone near James after what James did to both him and his father. James` obsession with, and need to control, Harry is sick and twisted. He acts out against him every time Harry doesn`t do or behave as James wants him to. James clearly is a psychopath who enjoys manipulating people much more than he enjoys their company or personality.
If that was true he wouldn't always be checking on James when he's hurting or in trouble. He does care about James.
@@Tvjunkieful12 Harry and James are very similar though. Harry has gotten a lot more darker over the years and he doesn't care even a bit about Ste.
Yep this wasn't just James's fault it was also Tegans, and also Harry seriously needs to make his mind up cuz the wedding is getting closer so he better choose the right man.
This Harry guy is unbelievable... Every time he needs someone to help him he stands at James door step. And now he feels contempt for him? That's one of the feelings I feel for him. Please James wake up. This guy is nothing but bad for you a selfish unloyal and nasty person who will never love you and give you what you deserve = a happy relationship.
keep smile exactly this all he cares about is himself he’s too wrapped up in himself to even care about anyone else he’s a disgusting excuse for a human being.
He's just angry. Anyone can see that. He does care about James otherwise he wouldn't be risking everything again and again to check on him and wanting James to talk to him about things that are bothering him rather than just having sex.
I WON'T defend what James did he had no remorse for what he did and when Harry confronts him James tries to make it about him Harry needs to be with his family atm I can't wait to see what Diane says to Tegan
James needs a hug
Jarry, James and Harry re made for each other
Wow james accent :)
It's partly Tegan's fault she knows what James is like. Wwwwhhhhyyyy Tegan why
Poor James,He is suffering😭😭
i love how they are dragging this harry love confession ,it just means its going to be massive .i cant wait.
James really need to forget about Harry, I know he won’t but for Harry to not say I love you and the most important thing for him is to keep his secret sigh. James did do a very nasty thing but forever support James.
Honestly HO, by now you know very well we want Jarry together no matter what. Because it's drama, and because James brings out an interesting side in Harry. Let them be cunning and fucked up together. Make them the evil overlords of Hollyoaks, loyal to each other and no one else 😂
This is Tegans fault don't blame James
lol
KING Dan Productions I completely get that but James telling those innocent kids was too much, he could have approached it in a better way with destroying the lives of Rose, Ant and Dee Dee.
KING Dan Productions yes, James is doing his job as you say when and where should not be an excuse you don't hold off a contempt of court
KING Dan Productions just because simeone is having a bad dat
NO. A lawyer IS responsible for what he/she says or does. These types of cases can be challenged and fought in closed court, so neither the children involved, nor anyone except the parties and the doctor/surgeon who needs to know who to address about what in regard to the child`s treatment, will be informed. If what is meant to have happened here, was that James informed Dee Dee Tegan was Dee Dee`s biological mum, he could be finished as a lawyer. Not only has he revealed confidential client to attorney information, with Dee Dee`s health in mind, he could have been endangering a child`s life too.
Sighs James just made the situation worse for himself and Harry.
What's that about there being a thin line between love and hate?
Have you realise that if u had a daughter that could be dying would you not want to tell then u your daughter before it to late cuz remember when diane tony took her all she think they are her parents while tegan is left out in cold it not nice to see your own kid dying an complete strangers are there not the kid real mum
But what if the shock of learning this caused medical complications for the child, made her so upset she accidentally hurt herself - or with how Dee Dee`s brain is effected by her illness - she came to think other things were not true too? Perhaps even thought the hospital was not a hospital, but a prison or an alien space ship? James should never have spoken to Dee Dee directly. It should have been handled behind closed doors in court, so neither Dee Dee, nor anyone else - except from the judge and the doctor/surgeon responsible for Dee Dee`s treatment - would have been in the know.
Wow. I just saw what James did and people still love James? Wild? What is it about him that is redeemable? That he can blame all his evil deeds on someone else from ages ago?
Hollyoaks ste and brendan i want to see them again, let harry and james
BRENDAN ABUSED STE AND KILLED HIS OWN GRANDMOTHER! WHY ARE PEOPLE SHIPPING HIM AND STE?!
@@xalexis.editsx even he abuse ste he still love and he never cheat
Marky Ibarra Are you seriously trying to justify ABUSE?!??! People like you are the exact reason that abuse is a thing. You lot are so narrow-minded and oblivious to what abuse really is.
I understand james is in pain but what he said was out of line!
Also what did Harry mean when he said to James... "The only thing I am feeling for you right now... Is contempt."? 🤔
ice queen Thanks. It's sad that the Kids had to find out this way! James is nothing but a horrible and I mean HORRIBLE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Romeo needs to get to know him and try to take his mind off of Harry. But he shouldn't tell James that Romeo is his Son now's not the time. Romeo needs to know more about his Grandfather Mac and somehow find a way to show Alfie what he's really like. But he shouldn't do it alone he needs help. Probably either Prince, Lily, Hunter, Cindy, Tom or Juliet. What do you think? 🤔
k h But when Harry said to James that he loves him he didn't really mean it he's just playing him so he can get James off of his back and be with Ste.
James needs to BLOW UP Harry's spot BIG TIME!!! Eff Harry. He needs to lose Ste and James and GROW UP!
No Harry plea James goo man 👍👍👍👍👍👍
They will be hooking up next week 😂
What did I say haha they kiss near the end of this episode fml 😂😂
James and Ste deserve better than Harry 🤦🏽♀️
Harry deserves better than Ste or James - and some improvement in storylines, and a more true to character storyline development wouldn`t go amiss either.
Enough harry go with james stay away to steve because steve is for brendan.
I think Harry should leave james
I love ste's hair he's my fav i hope they do not kill him off
God I hate the writers of Hollyoaks cause they are recycling the same drama over and over again making the actors look like ass*****.Why can't the stories be good like Downton Abbey cause it gets better and better on every episode.
“I am not a man who begs!”
*Begged Ellie to forgive him and making Sami the villain and desperately keeps trying to get Harry away from Ste to be with him.*
Oh absolutely, James. Your word isn’t too contradicting at all(!) 😂
True. but it is an open question whether he actually wants Harry - or he just wants to steal him off Ste, as revenge for Ste sleeping with JP when JP and James were an item.
ice queen If look at James` relationships, what they all have had - and have - in common, is James` need to be in control over his partner. When he loses that control, or feel his partner is starting to take up too much space, he deliberately sabotages the relationship. He belittled Scott when he started to find his own footing in their relationship, decided to prostitute Harry after barely having met him (was that because he wanted to feel to have power over him, rather than have him as an equal partner? I think the evidence support such a conclusion much more than this idea of James being in love with Harry - or Harry with him. I suspect both James believes he is manipulating Harry, and Harry that he is manipulating James - off course the only victim here is Ste and his kids, who expects Harry to form a family with them). James through Kyle out of the house when Kyle suggested they were good together. But worse of all was the revenge he served JP, after he discovered JP and Ste had spent a night together.
When someone purchases a vintage car as a gift for their lover, only to use it to scare the living daylights out of the same lover - first by driving it like a mad man with the lover as passenger, and then by pretending the lover`s ex is in the booth when the car is being pushed over a cliff. Someone who went to all that trouble, and held so much anger is not likely to let it rest until he has humiliated Ste, who was the other party to humiliate James himself, in equal amounts. And first seducing Harry, and then when Ste is about to marry him, or has married him, inform Ste about Harry and James many meet ups, is something a sick and twisted mind like James would consider significant payback. That he would not only hurt Ste and Harry, but also Ste`s kids and Harry and Ste`s family and friends too, is of no significance to a psychopath like James. Cause in his mind, he would have regained control and power, and proved to both Ste and Harry no one messes with James.
I am afraid the only thing James feels over Harry is power. Knowing that the more he makes Harry believe he is being loved, the more control James will have over him, and the more clever and powerful James will feel when he reveals it has all been a big scam to get revenge of Ste for, in James` eyes, ruining his relationship with JP, and on Harry for having opted for Ste instead of him. If you remember James made a play for Harry even before the £10 000 night. When Ste wrongly assumed James to have the hots for him, and when Harry told James to back off, James made it clear it was Harry he was interested in - not Ste.
I believe Harry opting for a homeless and unemployed ex junkie, when he could have had James instead, was more than James` ego could take. So he concocted the plan to first prostitute and then to extort Harry about it afterwards. By making Harry a prostitute, he no longer, in James` eyes, was worthy of James anyway - so it wouldn`t feel a loss to James he couldn`t get him.
James is a snob, and a very shallow one at that. He chose JP cause JP was presentable among the professionals James considered himself to belong with. When he thought Scott was beneath him as a boyfriend, how could he then have been with a former prostitute like Harry. For someone like James that would simply not do. Even if he should have developed real feelings for Harry, while pretending to have done so, because of who James is, how his mother has brought him up and how important image is to him. A former prostitute as his boyfriend would never even have been considered.
Should Ste dump Harry after James` revelation, James probably would have kept Harry on as a secret lover/kept man he expected to be there every time he wanted his "services." But a real relationship - no, I am afraid James is too much of both a snob and control freak for that to be an option. He wants someone he has power over and can control - not an equal partner with a mind and wants of his own.
Ha! And i thought James only wanted to break Harry and Ste's Family aka (Ste, Leah and Lucas) up but now his Ex-Step Sister Dee Dee his Half Sister Rose and his Half Brother Ant? Along with his Father Tony his Step Mother Diane, his Step Sister Sinead? What is wrong with you James? Why are you now being such a horrible Male to Harry and his Family? 😣😫😤🤯🤬😠😡 Idk about you guys? But maybe James will end up being like his old Man one day! 😲😮😰😱😨
I know James has a homophobic father, but he's still horrible all on his own. How do you love him like you seem to?
Everyone has a reason why they are who they are. Mac probably has one too. James was just meant to be horrible. He's old enough to be the man he wants to be. He is his mother's son, and his father's son.
James is so selfish he's always been a manipulative contemptible person down to his core. Never felt sorry for him, never will
Me neither. He is too deliberately cruel, manipulative, ruthless and controlling. I neither trust him nor find much to like about him. And this background they have invented for him of having been abused by Mac, I find as convincing as a polar bear in the Sahara!
James is the most selfish person ever. Lets make a dying girls life more miserable because you don’t like your position as the sidepiece. But continue with your “poor James” comments.
Finally someone with open eyes and functioning brain. I cannot believe why someone even would think it possible for a psychopath like James to be paired up with anyone, with the track record he has had of cruelly manipulating and hurting everyone he has been with from Scott and JP to Harry and Kyle?! His psychopathic behavior and mindset is off the charts many times. Had he just been selfish, I could have lived with it. It is the cruel manipulations and obsessive need for control I cannot abide with. In real life, people so obsessed with control, could come to kill to get it back - and win (in their eyes) - should they feel to lose control, or be outsmarted by someone. This type of personality is seriously scary people.
ice queen Never said Harry wasn’t selfish. You’re really trying to defend someone who verbally attacked three little children as a form of revenge on Harry. A grown ass man going after children? That ain’t cute honey.
Both of them are terrible people really
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Stop with the "Poor James" comments!? How can anyone defend when he did telling those kids that out of revenge because Harry doesn't love him back and loves Ste anyone who wants Harry with James are messed up in the head.
"Messed up in the head" is a little strong. But I too find it odd someone actually can root for James and Harry to be in a relationship with each other, with the background they have. James paying Harry for sex, only to use it to extort Harry to get his father to let James` mother take over Harry`s father`s business. How Harry could even look at James without filling up with content, is beyond me. I used to like the character, but with all the weird storyline developments there have been, he is getting tough to connect with anything real and genuine. Instead I hope Kyle will return to the person he was when had his first lunch with Darren and Nancy. That kind of charm, humor and intelligence Hollyoaks needs more of. Too much of the show is focused around negative emotions and situations.
I blame reality tv. The poor acting and scripted twists and turns there make it difficult for people to separate true emotion and intentions from fake and deceptive ones. Reality tv also give a very one sided view of both characters/contenders and the issues they are involved in. In turn making the viewers feel clever when they cheer for the right one, and as a consequence are fooled into thinking they can tell what is what just like that. So when they watch soaps like Hollyoaks, they make up their mind there and then about what is right and wrong, true and false - purely based on what they see in that scene. Neither taking into account there could be more and different information still to emerge, nor if what has happened in previous scenes and storylines the character have been involved in makes the conclusion they jump to reasonable.
And when Hollyoaks tends to cater their storylines to what the fans wants - most storylines and characters end up being so self-contradicting it is hard to make sense of any of it.
If we use that kind of mindset then who wants Starry together are messed up in the head too considering how much shit they've put each other through so stop being a hypocrite team Starry and if people want to feel for James over your precious Ste then let them and get over it.
Maria Shaukat I'm sorry but Ste brought Tony back for Harry and the family what did James do drop that bombshell on KIDS because Harry doesn't love him back so you shut up defend your precious James.
@@starryhollyoaks2291 Yep and Harry will still no doubt cheat on him. Yeah great couple aren't they? And it doesn't erase everything bad that Starry have done to each other just because Ste brought him back and is being decent for once. Tony has been like a dad to Ste and he wanted him back so got him. Not that much of a big deal tbh and I wouldn't say it was all for Harry. At the end of the day Ste can pretend to be the best person in the world and Harry would still cheat on him.
And yeah I'll defend James because I know he isn't a saint. I don't know whether your insecure about why many people are supporting James over Ste or whatever but calling people messed up for it is so wrong. You act like anyone who defends James or Jarry is so bad when Ste and Harry are hardly saints themselves and the crap that Starry have done to each other isn't any less. I don't care who you support but stop embarrassing yourself by trying to pretend Starry are any better and getting on your high horse. Please remember what your favourite character and ship have done in the past before you do that.
Maria Shaukat I know Ste not a saint but yeah I defend him as much as I want and Starry so don't tell me who can I ship and I can comment on these videos it's a free country and I said people who ship "Jarry" are messed up because James wants Harry to leave his family when they need him leave his dying sister and you think that's "Cute"!?