Stu you are an absolute LEGEND! As someone new to boating and a bit of a worry wart I have managed to fix my outboard leaks, trim my boat, install binimis, service it, replace my prop - just unbelievable and reassuring- keep up the amazing work!
Extremely informative, to the point, and demonstrated in a way that anyone can follow. Especially with the editing and highlighting of the different scenarios. Much appreciated,
You are my boat go to. Went out for first time ever on a 17ft 90hp yesterday. Thanks to you I knew how to trim and did all the service and can trust my cheap used boat.
I'm new to boating. Got me an old 90's Sears 14 foot that had an 80's Suzuki 16HP outboard on it... Your videos help me out greatly! Thanks for taking the time to explain everything on your channel!
Great job of actually showing people the difference. A lot of videos don't cover the reverse portion of trimming. My boat is weird with trimming as it always rides best trimmed all the way down. I cavitate at full throttle most times if the motor isn't totally trimmed down.
Hey Jim, yeah, every boat hull has its own quirks that you need to figure out. You might find that your motor would benefit from a hydrofoil or adjusting the height it is mounted on the transom.
Hi Jimbo, interesting your boat rides best with the trim all the way down. Mine does too. I think it's the boat that makes the difference. I'm sure my motor was the original and set up by StarCraft. 17ft is not that big and Aluminum. Doesn't take that much to get it up on plain and nose still slightly up with no side spray. But was not aware of the reverse issue with trim. Being that ours is all the way down if a issue I guess not much we can do?
Tim's Workshop TJY Yeah. I actually have a 15-16 foot Ropelene boat (triumph). It's a type of plastic like a kayak. It's very wide for such a short boat. It's over 60 inches at it's widest part. I think 64 inches. I have it mounted at 2nd hole and that's the best height to use per manufacturer. I actually never have problems with porpoising. Once the hull planes it always rides smooth
Thank you so mush for making things easy to understand. Just got my boat on the water for the first time and it's my firs outboard with power trim. Thanks for all our effort mate :)
Thank you Stu that really helped. I was having problems getting the boat on the trailer now I just have to remember to trim all the way down. This is my first boat with trim-able control. All the lakes are frozen over here in the Sierras but look forward to trying this out in the spring.
GREAT VIDEO, I had to show my wife this video on trimming a motor. [ You explained it so well, she could understand it ] I TRIED but, with no success. She thought the trim was just to raise the motor out of the water. Thanks again
Mate.. I'm new to boating.. Just bought and upgraded a trixsta 42 and put a new mercury 50 on it with the new tiller... This video was really good for me thanks 👌
Hi there Stu, great video as always. I have another tip for knowing when you trimmed too high. In full throttle I trim up until the boat starts to "jump" up and down in the water, then I trim down again until the jumping stops, there's my preferred adjustment. :)
Hi Michael, yes, some hulls will definitely start to do what they call porpoising if they aren't trimmed right. It's not a comfortable was to ride at all!
Hi Stu, very good video. In my experience, most boats will porpoise before cavitating. I find that about a 1 to 2 second period gives the best speed. Usually you need to trim down from this when turning or you will cavitate.
Good day from -30c Canada, good info Stu. "Dryer, use less fuel and you'll be going faster." That's what it's all about. Now with the money we save we can afford the plane tickets for a visit to hoist a beer or two.
Hi mate I have watched a heap of your videos from install of a duel battery switch to clearing my propeller all videos and there has been plenty I have watched are so easy to follow and straight forward thank you so much well done if you see this trust me push follow you won’t be disappointed cheers mate
Great video, especially the reverse trimming. Can't wait till the spring. Here in NJ , USA temperature running from 9 degrees to about 25 degrees for a week. Happy New Year.
Robert Gregilovich I’m also in NJ. Northern New Jersey to be exact. I’m with you Robert. Can’t wait till the spring. I look at my boat on the trailer and can’t wait to be back on it!
I watched many videos on trimming the motor. This was by far the best. Great content, and great way of demonstrating and explaining everything. Thank you
Hi Stu, just catching up on youtube videos this am with my Saturday coffee. Finished watching your crab net one and like the added weight idea. I have one pot that has a weighted line that came with it but the other pot has the yellow line that will float. This will solve that problem. This trim video is good info as well. Didn't know about going in reverse with trim still up will affect it also going to get a trim attachment. Thanks
Hey Tim, yeah, those crimp on weights are really handy and very cheap. Trimming down makes a huge difference in reverse. I've actually seen a couple of accidents caused by trying to stop while trimmed right up.
Danger ...thanks for the trimming lesson ....I now realize I was doing all wrong yesterday by the way as long as you speak clearly into the mic we can comfortably hear you over the engine noise
I have always had a problem, probably sociological about trimming the outboard. Your video explaned the priciple so simply, thanks. now to put it into practice.
Great tips Stu! My brother in law don’t know how to trim his motor for optimal plane. I explain to him the how and why, but he still don’t trim when under way. He keeps it fully down at all times. Needless to say you get soaked when your on his boat! I need to make sure he watches this video!
Hey Jack. Ha! Flick him the link. ;) One thing I didn't mention that can really happen too so lots of water spraying up at the transom when the outboard is trimmed right down. Makes the whole boat look like a water feature. :)
Really useful thanks. I drive safety boats and the tips re. trimming down to help low speed manoeuvrability were very useful. We use prop guards and have issues where at low speed in reverse the boats simply don't turn at all without a burst of throttle but this is often inappropriate when close to capsized boats / crews in the water, so I'm hoping this will help.
FWIW... I have a small cathedral hull with a slightly marginally sized motor (Boat is 3.8m and motor is a Suz DF20) and take off and run are opposite to Stu's advice. I can only get on the plane if I trim up, lift the bow high (breaking water resistance) and then trim the bow back down for running on the plane. So bear in mind that your specific hull/motor combination could require a different approach. Thanks though for an awesome channel.
Hi Stu, another great video! Seeing the warm weather is refreshing also. It has been brutal cold in Maine for a few weeks now, and we have a blizzard warning for tomorrow. Yaaay, not.😕 My name is Kris, sorry about the confusion, my wife, Jen, made the you tube account. Aaand the newb just keeps shining through for me. Hahaha. After reading my letter to you i sound like a smug wanker. I was trying to build some credibility and describe the lack of skill and knowledge in my area. I wanted you to know you were getting high praises from a colleague and peer. Sometimes reading the words of a conversation can sound a bit off. Watching your videos is so refreshing, I think to myself, “this guy gets it”. Raising the young fellas sunk boat in that rough weather, ingenuity and skill at it’s finest. The only time i thought i could give advice was on the spark plug video. You were talking about heat ranges and what detrimental effects can happen when using too hot or cold of a plug. I have seen a plug thats too hot, like a few or more numbers higher, burn a small hole the size of a ball point pen tip into the top of a piston. Two strokes are more prone to that than four, but I have seen a four stroke air cooled small engine do the same. To cold of a plug runs rough and leaves fuel deposits unburned, so on the next power stroke there’s actually too much fuel for the next firing cycle and over a long period of time prematurely wear the piston, rings, and cylinder wall out. There is a certain magic to spark plugs though. I have increased the heat range in four strokes that had a cylinder with a bad valve guide, not the seal. When the engine was off, oil would leak into the cylinder, and at start up smoke for a few moments, and foul the plug. Resulting in a missfire rough running condition. I switched to a platinum plug two numbers hotter in that cylinder. The kernel for platinum and iridium plugs is a bit more resilient. I think the kernel is just a tad hotter. The result was the plug could now burn off the oil and and not foul nearly as fast. Like a year of use before a clean as opposed to a month before needing to be cleaned. I ran that engine for another 10 years, and sold the truck 2 years ago. Telling the buyer about cylinder #1 and showing him which cylinder to clean when it started to miss fire. 300k mile engine and it’s still running. I love motorcycles as well. We have two honda xr’s. A 2001 400 for me and a 2002 250 for Jen. The canoe in my avatar was built in the 70’s by a man named Jackson in Quebec, Canada. I think before Jackson actually became a company. Im not positive about that though. I lined the bottom with kevlar and more fiberglass because my father kept punching holes in the bottom going through white water. Just shy of 21’ with a 4.5’ beam. Powered by a 1984 8hp johnson. It weighs almost 500 lbs now with anchor, fuel, and engine. This past august we got a 1987 bayliner cobra 1800, with a chrysler/force 125. Alot of people I’ve met since think that engine is no good. I know when i saw it my first impression was “dang the engineer who designed this did a bang up job. I can get to every nut, bolt, wire, without tearing everything apart.” I could field strip it right on the boat if i had to. The boat was a rare find, well maintained, and an affordable price. About the same amount to upgrade the old 8 hp johnson to a yamaha 4 stroke 10 horse. I feel like a buying genius for getting an 18’ boat with a 125 engine for the price of a new 10 hp yamaha engine. 😀 one of the locals at Little Sebago lake actually motored up to us to ask if i had rebuilt and restored the boat. I told him no, we just got it, the previous owner had taken good care of it. We are the same age also, born in ‘87, no not really, ‘72. 😀 Take care Stu, I sure wish we weren’t half a world apart, you’re a good bloke. -Kris
Hey Kris (sorry I got the name wrong!) Spark plugs certainly are a complex thing, and for that reason I think most people should stick to the recommended plug, but I liked you ingenious solution to the problem you were having with oil seepage. Sounds like you scored a really good deal on the new boat. I find the idea of a motor where you can get to everything easily so very appealing. I hate the way new motors are so cramped and packed in under the cowling. '72 was a fine year for births I can tell. ;)
How about a video on properly adjusting torque control rudder, a.k.a "torque trim"? Taking over my father-in-law's 82 Glastron 16' & at speed, the steering wheel pulls the right really hard & seems rather dangarous ;D I couldnt have gotten up and running without these videos, thanks so much!
Great video. Super informative! I was wondering if you might do an add-on video for boats that have trim tabs. I upgraded to a larger boat that has trim tabs for the first time. Would love to see a video that breaks down when to adjust motor trim, vs when to adjust the tabs, and how to make them “play nice.” Because I have been finding it a bit challenging figuring out what to adjust when. Especially open ocean here in Hawaii. Thanks for all the great vids. I have tackled a ton of big maintenance jobs that I would not have had the guts to do without your tips and tutorials.
Hi Stu . I enjoy your vids . I have a 85 yamaha aet with a problem On idle it sound awsome . But as soon as you put it into gear (wake zone) then it sound like misfire and not sounding good . Cleaned out carburaters . Had them synced and set like on your other vids . Also cleaned out all connections and plugs . Fitted new spark plugs as well . Thanks Quentin
Nice vid Stu. Maybe a nice gateway to a vid about how to fix a temramental trim angle sensor. Mine only works when it feels lik it, which is not often.
Good video mate when i had the 50hp yam i would try to trim it so it sounded good you soon know when it is not going right just by the noise it makes ,with the 40 enduro i would set and hopefully get it right . i remember my first outboard i had no idea and put it on to high i think i would give the stacer a boot and the boat would lurch out of the water and rise like a plane taking of and always ended up putting back to shore hahaha great video on trimming takle care
Should also mention that when trimmed up and running across lake you are more sensitive to waves and boat can begin jumping. When this happens slightly I'll trim down to settle the boat down, but often with smaller boats on my lake you unfortunately have to back off the throttle also due to larger waves. Gotta love a small boat on Lake Lanier in GA.(sarcasm) lol
Great vid stu, nice and clear. Change of subject but any chance of doing a video of getting rid of your oil injection system on a 2 stroke outboard and changing it to a pre-mix cheers and keep up the great videos.
Another great vid Stu!! Would you do one on boathandling in rough conditions? I had a "moment" in my 18' Sportscruiser a few years ago when it was quite choppy and we turned tight across a wave - the boat felt like it was going to tip over - scared me a bit and now i'm not as confident in rough water.
That would be cool. Thanks heaps really loving getting to see the Hawkesbury more than driving over it. Do you have river rats there? Ours are pretty good and friendly. Just spent a great arvo up the Brunswick river, look forward to your next vid.
Thanks Tim, glad you enjoyed the vid. We do get the odd river rat here, but not too many. You mostly just see the little pile of crab shells from where they have eaten. :)
gday.. In Tassie.. Bought an older 50 yamaha on a 4.3m tinny. At lower speeds increasing to planing if you trim up the motor moving along, doesnt hold position. Slowly drops. Assume means an issue with eg seals on rams? Not sure.? Or is load just too much at low speeds maybe? Till on plane. Thanks for the practical boat repair videos. Great...
Thanks Jack. It is possible, I will probably take the Green Machine down one day. You need to be very careful with weather and fuel though. My neighbour did it on a bad day one in here boat that is about the same size and the weather was so rough that she couldn't stop driving the boat to change fuel tanks. Fortunately she made it on one tank but if she had to stop and swap over it would have meant the boat would have been at the mercy of the waves while she was at the back.
Dangar Marine awesome thanks. Gives me a bit of hope when I attempt it in a few months. Fuel should be no problem as I can carry 36.3 litres of fuel and my boat only uses about 3-4L/h
I'd take some spare just in case. Be sure to check the surf report, swell heights and winds before you leave as well as all the usual offshore safety equipment and notification procedures.
Fabian Sosa when you can’t adjust the trim while driving you have to compromise, start low and test how the boat takes off, corners and as Stu demonstrated slows when you hit reverse. Increase the position until you start to find it cavitation on cornering and drop back one. I tend to adjust mine at times, a long drive on flat water and you can save some fuel going a notch up because less of the boat will be in the water, if you are in rougher water trim it back down to avoid cavitation
Yes, as Leon says it is mostly about trimming until it starts to ventilate and then go back down one. Just be sure to check your bite in reverse as well as how it turns.
Awesome video as usual and it was great to see the visual change in spray that trim makes to a boat. Curious though if you would or could (no offence) but get a bigger boat and go out into unprotected waters and show the trim that you would want to use heading into a sea vs following a sea. Thanks Stu! Really appreciate these videos! PS I can volunteer my boat but you would need to pay the transport costs for me and the boat from Perth, WA :p haha cheers!
Hey Stu. Do you have any videos on becoming a marine mechanic? I am 18 and work at a marina. I'm from Long Island, NY USA. I would love to hear any tips you have for a young guy getting into the business. Always a fan of your videos and thanks for making them. Cheers
Hi There, hope you are well. Just a quick question. See crossing a bar or the like what do you thing the best trim position is. I always felt trimming down was best but i see people doing all sorts especially in those Haulover inlet videos.
Any recommendations for a tiller steer that does not have a power trim? Instead of it all the way down would it be better to have it in the middle setting?
I enjoy your videos. Clear, easy to understand, and informative. How do you recommend to trim the motor when riding in a bit rougher water? 2 to 3 foot waves, perhaps?
Dangar, i got a 12ft Jonboat with a 2.5hp mercury. the outboard has got manual trim adjustment. i cannot adjust it on the fly. should i try to trim the engine to get a better ride even thought its on a flat bottomed fishing boat mostly used at low speeds?
Hey stu, got a 2005 15 hp mariner that all of a sudden won't release from its uppermost tilt position back to right down. The bail spring is ok it's in unlock, reverse lock ok, but it's the kind of thing I have to push that big metal triangular lock back into the swivel bracket with my hands to guide it inside the running locks. It used to operate fine recently, and no parts seem to be broken or missing. As you lift to the highest tilt point that spring should pull the triangle back in to slide inside of the runners? Nothing on the bet I can find, but have a mate that has exact same thing. Hoping you have seen this before in the 9.9-30hp merc/mariner/tohi motors. CheersMatt
They can be very fiddly these stands and it usually comes down to something being either bent rather than broken or just plain old corrosion. This video is on repair one and might help ua-cam.com/video/Topfyfm4bFg/v-deo.html
Thanks Stu great info. I've always left mine trimmed down. Now I know what to look and listen for when trimming. How do you find the hydrofoil. I've been thinking of putting one on?..Edit: just found your vid on you putting a hydrofoil on👍
I have a 40 hp yamaha 4stroke and it doesn't have electric trim, is it easy to fit the electric trim yourself or do you have a video about that? thx for all you helpfull tips, keep on going with the great vids!
2 Part question; 1) I don't have trim/tilt I need to do manually on my big 85 HP Sucks!. Where should I place pin for best tilt while pulling kids on tube. 2) When I add remote trim do I leave the pin out so it can go all the way down? Thanks in advance.
Hey mate just found your channel it’s very good. I’ve got a 3.7m tinny with a Yamaha 15hp on it. The whole rig was $850 with 15hp Johnson ( i had the Yamaha already) I would love to see a vid on reinforcing an old tinny. New rubber under ribs filling holes. Even a super basic tig tutorial. Thanks heaps.
Hey Tim, sounds like you got a good deal on your new boat. I think some hull restoration videos are well overdue. I have an old tinnie in the yard that needs some TLC, I'll film doing that soon. It does need some welding.
Thank you for the video. I'm stumped and so is the dealer! Our boat, a 20 foot (6 m) with a 115 hp outboard, lists to port when under power. It sits flat at no or slow speed with near idle rpm. Weight is more or less equal port to starboard. I have adjusted the trim tab that sits just above the prop from the 4 o'clock position to the 6 o'clock position (straight) with no or minimum change to the list to port. I have a transducer on the starboard side of the transom but it only extends not even 0.5 cm below the hull which is as far up as I can set it and still get depth readings with a moving boat. Any other ideas? My next step is to run with a bag of sand in the starboard locker.
A hydrofoil may help ua-cam.com/video/-TG2I9M8XoY/v-deo.html Otherwise it could be that the hull isn't perfectly symmetrical. It is more common that you think.
Thanks for this awesome tip Do you have or can you make a video how lubricate your motor inside also what use to avoid corrosion in a 4 stroke engine if is Suzuki will be awesome🙏
Hi Stu, another great tip, thanks. When I am not moving my trim works fine up & down, BUT when I am moving and try to adjust the trim to stop digging in, my trim starts then jumps back to all the way down. Flippin annoying, do you have any ideas what it could be. (Yamaha 25 1989 remotes)Tia
I have a question for you. I am trying to figure out why my trim won’t work. It’s a 1985 150 mercury black max. When I bought the boat the trim would only go up so I bought 2 new solenoids for it and now I cannot figure out the wiring. If I put the power on one of the solenoids it will go up but will only click going down. Then if I switch the power cable to the other one it will go down. I placed the second power cable on the other and then both would not work and neither would click. What do you think could be wrong?
Hi, I have a 21ft long outboard with flat hull but having a 2" keel running from bow to stern, stops about 1 ft before the transom. My question is do I set the cavitation plate level to the flat hull or lower to the keel. At the moment I set it in between. What would you advise...
Can you explain engine / stern drive hydrofoils. I read that.. at least on stern drives such as Mercruiser there are opinions that they are a bad idea. What take do you have on this?.. Just noted that you recently made a video on these on outboards. I best watch it.
Also I had wondered why I haven't been seeing notifications of your new videos so I had to look tonsee you indeed had a lot aonce my last notification I DO have the bell checked but am not getting them. Just an FYI.. maybe YT is being stupid again...
I'm getting those notifications regularly, but on any given day, YT is prone to being stupid, and sometimes for weeks on end, too. I have regular problems with the other notification, the one that lets you know there is a reply to a comment. Often I can see the little red square, but when I click on the bell, a blank dialogue box opens up, with nothing to see in it.
My main thought with them really is that if you don't have a problem with how the hull rides, don't use them. If you do, they may be worth a shot but you won't really know how well they solve the problem until you try unfortunately.
Hi i have a problem with my tilt trim gauge. The motor is down but on the gauge says its up. I checked the trim sensor to see if its broken but its not do you have any idea whats wrong.
I have mind pretty much straight out and having had any problem with it. It may be an issue of mounting height more than angle. I'm trying to think whether mine came with drilling template. Here is the video on the install ua-cam.com/video/hLPsD4oo2vA/v-deo.html
Thanks for that. Much the same, but I suspect I need to lower the transducer even more to get clean flow. Suspect the mounting plate may actually be the culprit so I'll trim that too.
Heading into the waves I trim up as far as I can to stay as dry as I can - the Green Machine doesn't have much freeboard and is a very wet boat unfortunately. With a following sea I would sit on the back of a wave and trim down more.
Got good news bad news, the good I was told what was wrong with motor (lower unit burned up) bad news not sure if it's worth finding parts- 1973 evinrude 85hp 85393M. Some parts can't find unless I buy complete foot which will be a used one, before I brake it down any advice? Maybe a 90s motor are rebuild?
Dangar Marine Found out it got hit by a car at a red light, seen the weld spots my guess that might have done something Not positive though, will watch your video to remove it.
hi, i have a SIB, 84lbs 3m inflatable with air floor. yamaha 6hp 4stroke, 60lbs,trim pin at 1st position by transom. i just can't get it to go faster than 8mph, can't expect any planing. at full throttle the stern sinks and bow raises, total weight; 2x people+cargo+engine 390lbs do i need a bigger engine? or ride with 1 passenger only. with one passenger it would weigh, 295lb. Should i buy a 9.9hp 2 stroke or get a 9.9hp 4stroke? 4 strokes are heavy, and do you think its ok to put a 15hp 2stroke on it? the boat is rated for 10hp outboard and overall carrying weight of 1100lbs. thanks for your time.
I wouldn't exceed the manufacturers rating for the hull. My inflatable is 2.3m, so quite small, and doesn't fair well with 2 people in it. It's only a 6hp too so you might find the 9.9 makes a difference. You could also try moving more weight forward in the boat if you can.
Ok thanks,i own a Merc 175 V6 - 2 stroke -1997,when i bought the boat the merc gave me a lot of problems,most iron out,execpt, Burns plugs all the time,changed to hotter plugs as to advise from mercury, on WOT throttle she cuts out and comes back alive again, changed the stator as to advise from Mercury, still does the same, I have now bought a oil injection pump ,after testing that too much oil is injected,(could relate to the burned plugs) i can not troll as my Merc dies after a while, What else should be looking at if none of these worked out?
Stu you are an absolute LEGEND! As someone new to boating and a bit of a worry wart I have managed to fix my outboard leaks, trim my boat, install binimis, service it, replace my prop - just unbelievable and reassuring- keep up the amazing work!
Extremely informative, to the point, and demonstrated in a way that anyone can follow. Especially with the editing and highlighting of the different scenarios.
Much appreciated,
You are my boat go to. Went out for first time ever on a 17ft 90hp yesterday. Thanks to you I knew how to trim and did all the service and can trust my cheap used boat.
I'm new to boating. Got me an old 90's Sears 14 foot that had an 80's Suzuki 16HP outboard on it... Your videos help me out greatly! Thanks for taking the time to explain everything on your channel!
Glad to help!
Great job of actually showing people the difference. A lot of videos don't cover the reverse portion of trimming. My boat is weird with trimming as it always rides best trimmed all the way down. I cavitate at full throttle most times if the motor isn't totally trimmed down.
Hey Jim, yeah, every boat hull has its own quirks that you need to figure out. You might find that your motor would benefit from a hydrofoil or adjusting the height it is mounted on the transom.
Hi Jimbo, interesting your boat rides best with the trim all the way down. Mine does too. I think it's the boat that makes the difference. I'm sure my motor was the original and set up by StarCraft. 17ft is not that big and Aluminum. Doesn't take that much to get it up on plain and nose still slightly up with no side spray. But was not aware of the reverse issue with trim. Being that ours is all the way down if a issue I guess not much we can do?
Tim's Workshop TJY Yeah. I actually have a 15-16 foot Ropelene boat (triumph). It's a type of plastic like a kayak. It's very wide for such a short boat. It's over 60 inches at it's widest part. I think 64 inches. I have it mounted at 2nd hole and that's the best height to use per manufacturer. I actually never have problems with porpoising. Once the hull planes it always rides smooth
Thanks for a really clear vid on trimming an outboard. The subtle tweaks really do make all the difference.
Thanks John!
Thank you so mush for making things easy to understand. Just got my boat on the water for the first time and it's my firs outboard with power trim. Thanks for all our effort mate :)
You're welcome mate. :)
Thank you Stu that really helped. I was having problems getting the boat on the trailer now I just have to remember to trim all the way down. This is my first boat with trim-able control. All the lakes are frozen over here in the Sierras but look forward to trying this out in the spring.
You're welcome John, it does take a bit of getting used to when you come from a non-trimable boat.
Your videos are Always the easiest to understand. Good job
Glad you like them!
this was great, very easy to understand, and explained it in a way that other videos were hard to get the grasp of it
GREAT VIDEO, I had to show my wife this video on trimming a motor. [ You explained it so well, she could understand it ] I TRIED but, with no success. She thought the trim was just to raise the motor out of the water. Thanks again
You're welcome Ronald, glad it helped. :)
Thanks, I didn’t know about that trimming, but I never had a trim before, had an old Johnson 35hp, now I got a new 88 Evinrude with trim.
Explanations from a mechanic are always the best. Great video.
This is such a good video and exactly what I was looking for. One of the best vids
Mate.. I'm new to boating.. Just bought and upgraded a trixsta 42 and put a new mercury 50 on it with the new tiller... This video was really good for me thanks 👌
Glad I could help
Hi there Stu, great video as always. I have another tip for knowing when you trimmed too high. In full throttle I trim up until the boat starts to "jump" up and down in the water, then I trim down again until the jumping stops, there's my preferred adjustment. :)
Hi Michael, yes, some hulls will definitely start to do what they call porpoising if they aren't trimmed right. It's not a comfortable was to ride at all!
Hi Stu, very good video. In my experience, most boats will porpoise before cavitating. I find that about a 1 to 2 second period gives the best speed. Usually you need to trim down from this when turning or you will cavitate.
best tips I've seen this bloke is realy worth watching Good clear info Good on ya mate from Limey land
So many great tips to pick up going back through your videos.
Good day from -30c Canada, good info Stu.
"Dryer, use less fuel and you'll be going faster." That's what it's all about.
Now with the money we save we can afford the plane tickets for a visit to hoist a beer or two.
LOL, that's a fair bit of fuel to save. ;)
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Hi mate I have watched a heap of your videos from install of a duel battery switch to clearing my propeller all videos and there has been plenty I have watched are so easy to follow and straight forward thank you so much well done if you see this trust me push follow you won’t be disappointed cheers mate
Best video I've seen on this subject!
Thank Tim!
Great video, especially the reverse trimming. Can't wait till the spring. Here in NJ , USA temperature running from 9 degrees to about 25 degrees for a week. Happy New Year.
Thanks Robert. I've heard you guys are having quite a bad cold spell, I hope it isn't too bad. Happy New Year!
Robert Gregilovich I’m also in NJ. Northern New Jersey to be exact. I’m with you Robert. Can’t wait till the spring. I look at my boat on the trailer and can’t wait to be back on it!
I watched many videos on trimming the motor. This was by far the best. Great content, and great way of demonstrating and explaining everything. Thank you
Glad it helped!
Hi Stu, just catching up on youtube videos this am with my Saturday coffee. Finished watching your crab net one and like the added weight idea. I have one pot that has a weighted line that came with it but the other pot has the yellow line that will float. This will solve that problem. This trim video is good info as well. Didn't know about going in reverse with trim still up will affect it also going to get a trim attachment. Thanks
Hey Tim, yeah, those crimp on weights are really handy and very cheap. Trimming down makes a huge difference in reverse. I've actually seen a couple of accidents caused by trying to stop while trimmed right up.
+Dangar Marine
great vids! was wondering if you had vids on rebuilding or troubleshooting a leaky trim hydraulic shaft?
Danger ...thanks for the trimming lesson ....I now realize I was doing all wrong yesterday
by the way as long as you speak clearly into the mic we can comfortably hear you over the engine noise
I have always had a problem, probably sociological about trimming the outboard. Your video explaned the priciple so simply, thanks. now to put it into practice.
You're welcome mate, glat the video helped you. :)
Great tips Stu! My brother in law don’t know how to trim his motor for optimal plane. I explain to him the how and why, but he still don’t trim when under way. He keeps it fully down at all times. Needless to say you get soaked when your on his boat! I need to make sure he watches this video!
Hey Jack. Ha! Flick him the link. ;) One thing I didn't mention that can really happen too so lots of water spraying up at the transom when the outboard is trimmed right down. Makes the whole boat look like a water feature. :)
Thanks for sharing these great tips Stu Happy new year
You're welcome mate, happy New Year!
Really useful thanks. I drive safety boats and the tips re. trimming down to help low speed manoeuvrability were very useful. We use prop guards and have issues where at low speed in reverse the boats simply don't turn at all without a burst of throttle but this is often inappropriate when close to capsized boats / crews in the water, so I'm hoping this will help.
Hey Jonathan, I certainly find trimming down makes a huge difference for all types of slow speed maneuvering, so hopefully it will work for you. :)
FWIW... I have a small cathedral hull with a slightly marginally sized motor (Boat is 3.8m and motor is a Suz DF20) and take off and run are opposite to Stu's advice. I can only get on the plane if I trim up, lift the bow high (breaking water resistance) and then trim the bow back down for running on the plane. So bear in mind that your specific hull/motor combination could require a different approach. Thanks though for an awesome channel.
Thanks alot! ALL your videos are clear and informative, this one is no exception!
Thanks Anthony, glad to hear you are enjoying the vids!
Great, that answers why I couldn't get good bite reversing coming into the jetty, always just thought it was backwards prop less effective.
Props are a bit less effective in reverse, but trim makes a huge difference.
Thanks for the lesson! Do have tutorial on how use a hydraulic jack plate? Tia!
You're welcome mate, unfortunately not yet.
Hi Stu, another great video! Seeing the warm weather is refreshing also. It has been brutal cold in Maine for a few weeks now, and we have a blizzard warning for tomorrow. Yaaay, not.😕
My name is Kris, sorry about the confusion, my wife, Jen, made the you tube account. Aaand the newb just keeps shining through for me. Hahaha.
After reading my letter to you i sound like a smug wanker. I was trying to build some credibility and describe the lack of skill and knowledge in my area. I wanted you to know you were getting high praises from a colleague and peer. Sometimes reading the words of a conversation can sound a bit off.
Watching your videos is so refreshing, I think to myself, “this guy gets it”. Raising the young fellas sunk boat in that rough weather, ingenuity and skill at it’s finest.
The only time i thought i could give advice was on the spark plug video. You were talking about heat ranges and what detrimental effects can happen when using too hot or cold of a plug. I have seen a plug thats too hot, like a few or more numbers higher, burn a small hole the size of a ball point pen tip into the top of a piston. Two strokes are more prone to that than four, but I have seen a four stroke air cooled small engine do the same. To cold of a plug runs rough and leaves fuel deposits unburned, so on the next power stroke there’s actually too much fuel for the next firing cycle and over a long period of time prematurely wear the piston, rings, and cylinder wall out.
There is a certain magic to spark plugs though. I have increased the heat range in four strokes that had a cylinder with a bad valve guide, not the seal. When the engine was off, oil would leak into the cylinder, and at start up smoke for a few moments, and foul the plug. Resulting in a missfire rough running condition. I switched to a platinum plug two numbers hotter in that cylinder. The kernel for platinum and iridium plugs is a bit more resilient. I think the kernel is just a tad hotter. The result was the plug could now burn off the oil and and not foul nearly as fast. Like a year of use before a clean as opposed to a month before needing to be cleaned. I ran that engine for another 10 years, and sold the truck 2 years ago. Telling the buyer about cylinder #1 and showing him which cylinder to clean when it started to miss fire. 300k mile engine and it’s still running.
I love motorcycles as well. We have two honda xr’s. A 2001 400 for me and a 2002 250 for Jen. The canoe in my avatar was built in the 70’s by a man named Jackson in Quebec, Canada. I think before Jackson actually became a company. Im not positive about that though. I lined the bottom with kevlar and more fiberglass because my father kept punching holes in the bottom going through white water. Just shy of 21’ with a 4.5’ beam. Powered by a 1984 8hp johnson. It weighs almost 500 lbs now with anchor, fuel, and engine. This past august we got a 1987 bayliner cobra 1800, with a chrysler/force 125. Alot of people I’ve met since think that engine is no good. I know when i saw it my first impression was “dang the engineer who designed this did a bang up job. I can get to every nut, bolt, wire, without tearing everything apart.” I could field strip it right on the boat if i had to. The boat was a rare find, well maintained, and an affordable price. About the same amount to upgrade the old 8 hp johnson to a yamaha 4 stroke 10 horse. I feel like a buying genius for getting an 18’ boat with a 125 engine for the price of a new 10 hp yamaha engine. 😀 one of the locals at Little Sebago lake actually motored up to us to ask if i had rebuilt and restored the boat. I told him no, we just got it, the previous owner had taken good care of it.
We are the same age also, born in ‘87, no not really, ‘72. 😀 Take care Stu, I sure wish we weren’t half a world apart, you’re a good bloke.
-Kris
Hey Kris (sorry I got the name wrong!) Spark plugs certainly are a complex thing, and for that reason I think most people should stick to the recommended plug, but I liked you ingenious solution to the problem you were having with oil seepage. Sounds like you scored a really good deal on the new boat. I find the idea of a motor where you can get to everything easily so very appealing. I hate the way new motors are so cramped and packed in under the cowling. '72 was a fine year for births I can tell. ;)
Excellent explanation - my old motor has to be manually trimmed so I’ll move the adjustment pin back one notch at a time until I hit the sweet spot
Excellent comments. You simplified some more complicated issues 😊
Great tips 👌🏽
How about a video on properly adjusting torque control rudder, a.k.a "torque trim"? Taking over my father-in-law's 82 Glastron 16' & at speed, the steering wheel pulls the right really hard & seems rather dangarous ;D I couldnt have gotten up and running without these videos, thanks so much!
Great video. Super informative! I was wondering if you might do an add-on video for boats that have trim tabs. I upgraded to a larger boat that has trim tabs for the first time. Would love to see a video that breaks down when to adjust motor trim, vs when to adjust the tabs, and how to make them “play nice.” Because I have been finding it a bit challenging figuring out what to adjust when. Especially open ocean here in Hawaii. Thanks for all the great vids. I have tackled a ton of big maintenance jobs that I would not have had the guts to do without your tips and tutorials.
Hi Stu . I enjoy your vids . I have a 85 yamaha aet with a problem
On idle it sound awsome . But as soon as you put it into gear (wake zone) then it sound like misfire and not sounding good . Cleaned out carburaters . Had them synced and set like on your other vids . Also cleaned out all connections and plugs . Fitted new spark plugs as well . Thanks Quentin
Nice vid Stu. Maybe a nice gateway to a vid about how to fix a temramental trim angle sensor. Mine only works when it feels lik it, which is not often.
Thanks Adam, yes, I've been meaning to do a trim angle sensor video for ages. I'll make sure I get around to it soon after the holidays are over.
Good video mate when i had the 50hp yam i would try to trim it so it sounded good you soon know when it is not going right just by the noise it makes ,with the 40 enduro i would set and hopefully get it right . i remember my first outboard i had no idea and put it on to high i think i would give the stacer a boot and the boat would lurch out of the water and rise like a plane taking of and always ended up putting back to shore hahaha great video on trimming takle care
Nothing wrong with a unique style on taking off with too much trim, always a great way to grab peoples attention. ;)
Should also mention that when trimmed up and running across lake you are more sensitive to waves and boat can begin jumping. When this happens slightly I'll trim down to settle the boat down, but often with smaller boats on my lake you unfortunately have to back off the throttle also due to larger waves. Gotta love a small boat on Lake Lanier in GA.(sarcasm) lol
Jethro B at a slower speed the trimmed up bow high attitude can make approaching large swell safer as well tho.👍
Thanks for sharing this great video! It really made understanding how the trim works easy!
Great vid stu, nice and clear.
Change of subject but any chance of doing a video of getting rid of your oil injection system on a 2 stroke outboard and changing it to a pre-mix
cheers and keep up the great videos.
Thanks mate. Yes, that is a video I've been meaning to do for a very long time. I just need to find the right motor to convert.
"what's left of the bow" lol!
It's certainly had a hard hit at some stage in its life. ;)
Very useful video Stu
Very well explained
Thanks I just got a boat and took it out last weekend for a test run and didn’t really know how to trim the engine
Another great vid Stu!! Would you do one on boathandling in rough conditions? I had a "moment" in my 18' Sportscruiser a few years ago when it was quite choppy and we turned tight across a wave - the boat felt like it was going to tip over - scared me a bit and now i'm not as confident in rough water.
I've been planning to do a video on that for a while now. Next windy day I'll head out and see what I can do.
That would be cool. Thanks heaps really loving getting to see the Hawkesbury more than driving over it. Do you have river rats there? Ours are pretty good and friendly.
Just spent a great arvo up the Brunswick river, look forward to your next vid.
Thanks Tim, glad you enjoyed the vid. We do get the odd river rat here, but not too many. You mostly just see the little pile of crab shells from where they have eaten. :)
gday.. In Tassie..
Bought an older 50 yamaha on a 4.3m tinny.
At lower speeds increasing to planing if you trim up the motor moving along, doesnt hold position. Slowly drops.
Assume means an issue with eg seals on rams? Not sure.?
Or is load just too much at low speeds maybe? Till on plane.
Thanks for the practical boat repair videos. Great...
Great Video.
Unrelated question, do you think it would be possible to travel from Dangar to Sydney Harbour in a boat like the green machine?
-Jack
Thanks Jack. It is possible, I will probably take the Green Machine down one day. You need to be very careful with weather and fuel though. My neighbour did it on a bad day one in here boat that is about the same size and the weather was so rough that she couldn't stop driving the boat to change fuel tanks. Fortunately she made it on one tank but if she had to stop and swap over it would have meant the boat would have been at the mercy of the waves while she was at the back.
Dangar Marine awesome thanks. Gives me a bit of hope when I attempt it in a few months.
Fuel should be no problem as I can carry 36.3 litres of fuel and my boat only uses about 3-4L/h
I'd take some spare just in case. Be sure to check the surf report, swell heights and winds before you leave as well as all the usual offshore safety equipment and notification procedures.
Dangar Marine yeah for sure. Thanks Stuart.
Nice tips Stu.How do you trim a manual trim/tilt boat?Do you start at the second hole up and go from there?
Fabian Sosa when you can’t adjust the trim while driving you have to compromise, start low and test how the boat takes off, corners and as Stu demonstrated slows when you hit reverse. Increase the position until you start to find it cavitation on cornering and drop back one.
I tend to adjust mine at times, a long drive on flat water and you can save some fuel going a notch up because less of the boat will be in the water, if you are in rougher water trim it back down to avoid cavitation
Yes, as Leon says it is mostly about trimming until it starts to ventilate and then go back down one. Just be sure to check your bite in reverse as well as how it turns.
Cheers guys.
Awesome video as usual and it was great to see the visual change in spray that trim makes to a boat. Curious though if you would or could (no offence) but get a bigger boat and go out into unprotected waters and show the trim that you would want to use heading into a sea vs following a sea. Thanks Stu! Really appreciate these videos! PS I can volunteer my boat but you would need to pay the transport costs for me and the boat from Perth, WA :p haha cheers!
matt m is this the matt m I think it is?! :)
Wait, that would be matt p, sorry, my bad. (He's my brother in law in Perth)
I would like to do a video boating in bigger seas. Leave it with me, I'll get that done over the next few weeks while it is still warm.
Hey Stu. Do you have any videos on becoming a marine mechanic? I am 18 and work at a marina. I'm from Long Island, NY USA. I would love to hear any tips you have for a young guy getting into the business. Always a fan of your videos and thanks for making them. Cheers
Hi Brett, not at the moment but it is a good idea. I'll see what I can do. :)
Great video handy tips as always thanks
Thanks Corey!
Hi There, hope you are well. Just a quick question. See crossing a bar or the like what do you thing the best trim position is. I always felt trimming down was best but i see people doing all sorts especially in those Haulover inlet videos.
Most people probably trim up to raise the bow and stay dry.
Have you done any videos on properly setting up trim tabs?
No, all the boats around here are too small to have trim tabs unfortunately.
Dangar Marine actually, you just answered a part of my question. 🙂
Any recommendations for a tiller steer that does not have a power trim? Instead of it all the way down would it be better to have it in the middle setting?
Well explained and easy to understand. Thanks heaps for this.
I really get a lot out of your channel 👍
Thanks Duane, glad you're enjoying the vids.
I always start with it all the way in, get it up on plane then start trimming it out just as you do.
Great minds think alike Will! ;)
Great Video Stu is your motor a Honda Four stroke 50 hp and if so are they really reliable and economical to run?
Hey Joe. Even though this motor was sunk I am finding to it be the most reliable motor I have ever owned. It is also very economical.
Excellent information. Thanks 😊
I enjoy your videos. Clear, easy to understand, and informative. How do you recommend to trim the motor when riding in a bit rougher water? 2 to 3 foot waves, perhaps?
I tend to trim up a bit to stay drier when the weather gets rough.
Great tips
Cheers !
Dangar, i got a 12ft Jonboat with a 2.5hp mercury. the outboard has got manual trim adjustment. i cannot adjust it on the fly. should i try to trim the engine to get a better ride even thought its on a flat bottomed fishing boat mostly used at low speeds?
I would experiment with a few different settings for sure.
nice a lot of info thanks for sharing
Awesome video, didn't know what trimming was before. Do now.
Hey stu, got a 2005 15 hp mariner that all of a sudden won't release from its uppermost tilt position back to right down. The bail spring is ok it's in unlock, reverse lock ok, but it's the kind of thing I have to push that big metal triangular lock back into the swivel bracket with my hands to guide it inside the running locks. It used to operate fine recently, and no parts seem to be broken or missing. As you lift to the highest tilt point that spring should pull the triangle back in to slide inside of the runners? Nothing on the bet I can find, but have a mate that has exact same thing. Hoping you have seen this before in the 9.9-30hp merc/mariner/tohi motors. CheersMatt
They can be very fiddly these stands and it usually comes down to something being either bent rather than broken or just plain old corrosion. This video is on repair one and might help ua-cam.com/video/Topfyfm4bFg/v-deo.html
Thanks Stu great info. I've always left mine trimmed down. Now I know what to look and listen for when trimming. How do you find the hydrofoil. I've been thinking of putting one on?..Edit: just found your vid on you putting a hydrofoil on👍
I have a 40 hp yamaha 4stroke and it doesn't have electric trim, is it easy to fit the electric trim yourself or do you have a video about that? thx for all you helpfull tips, keep on going with the great vids!
It's not too hard if the motor is setup to accept it but I don't have any vids on it.
2 Part question;
1) I don't have trim/tilt I need to do manually on my big 85 HP Sucks!. Where should I place pin for best tilt while pulling kids on tube.
2) When I add remote trim do I leave the pin out so it can go all the way down?
Thanks in advance.
Great video Stu. Have watched and learned a lot from your vids but this is my fist comment.
Hi George, nice to meet you and great to hear you have been learning from the videos. :)
Hey mate just found your channel it’s very good. I’ve got a 3.7m tinny with a Yamaha 15hp on it. The whole rig was $850 with 15hp Johnson ( i had the Yamaha already) I would love to see a vid on reinforcing an old tinny. New rubber under ribs filling holes. Even a super basic tig tutorial.
Thanks heaps.
Hey Tim, sounds like you got a good deal on your new boat. I think some hull restoration videos are well overdue. I have an old tinnie in the yard that needs some TLC, I'll film doing that soon. It does need some welding.
Helpful video! Thanks man
Thank you for that explanation. Novice learning lots.
Awesome! Thanks!
You're welcome. :)
Thank you for the video. I'm stumped and so is the dealer! Our boat, a 20 foot (6 m) with a 115 hp outboard, lists to port when under power. It sits flat at no or slow speed with near idle rpm. Weight is more or less equal port to starboard. I have adjusted the trim tab that sits just above the prop from the 4 o'clock position to the 6 o'clock position (straight) with no or minimum change to the list to port. I have a transducer on the starboard side of the transom but it only extends not even 0.5 cm below the hull which is as far up as I can set it and still get depth readings with a moving boat. Any other ideas? My next step is to run with a bag of sand in the starboard locker.
A hydrofoil may help ua-cam.com/video/-TG2I9M8XoY/v-deo.html Otherwise it could be that the hull isn't perfectly symmetrical. It is more common that you think.
Thanks for this awesome tip
Do you have or can you make a video how lubricate your motor inside also what use to avoid corrosion in a 4 stroke engine if is Suzuki will be awesome🙏
If its trimmed up and you corner hard would it result in high rpm but boat goes no where?
Ok, if i put the trim down the boat jump more? If i put the trim up is more stable or not?
No, generally the other way around.
All very good points Stu; Thank's for the video My Friend !!!. And Happy New Year Everyone, Cheers !!!****.
Thanks Angelo, happy New Year!
Hi Stu, another great tip, thanks. When I am not moving my trim works fine up & down, BUT when I am moving and try to adjust the trim to stop digging in, my trim starts then jumps back to all the way down. Flippin annoying, do you have any ideas what it could be. (Yamaha 25 1989 remotes)Tia
Sounds like the seals or valves have failed in some way. When driving forward the engine is trying to push itself down the whole time.
I have a question for you. I am trying to figure out why my trim won’t work. It’s a 1985 150 mercury black max. When I bought the boat the trim would only go up so I bought 2 new solenoids for it and now I cannot figure out the wiring. If I put the power on one of the solenoids it will go up but will only click going down. Then if I switch the power cable to the other one it will go down. I placed the second power cable on the other and then both would not work and neither would click. What do you think could be wrong?
These videos should help you ua-cam.com/video/woVT4czk6ao/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/T0Vf7mSUlUY/v-deo.html
Nice one.
Hi, I have a 21ft long outboard with flat hull but having a 2" keel running from bow to stern, stops about 1 ft before the transom. My question is do I set the cavitation plate level to the flat hull or lower to the keel. At the moment I set it in between. What would you advise...
Is “ventilating” the same as cavitation? C
great stuff
Can you explain engine / stern drive hydrofoils. I read that.. at least on stern drives such as Mercruiser there are opinions that they are a bad idea. What take do you have on this?.. Just noted that you recently made a video on these on outboards. I best watch it.
Also I had wondered why I haven't been seeing notifications of your new videos so I had to look tonsee you indeed had a lot aonce my last notification I DO have the bell checked but am not getting them. Just an FYI.. maybe YT is being stupid again...
I'm getting those notifications regularly, but on any given day, YT is prone to being stupid, and sometimes for weeks on end, too. I have regular problems with the other notification, the one that lets you know there is a reply to a comment. Often I can see the little red square, but when I click on the bell, a blank dialogue box opens up, with nothing to see in it.
My main thought with them really is that if you don't have a problem with how the hull rides, don't use them. If you do, they may be worth a shot but you won't really know how well they solve the problem until you try unfortunately.
cool tips thanks for the info
Hi i have a problem with my tilt trim gauge. The motor is down but on the gauge says its up. I checked the trim sensor to see if its broken but its not do you have any idea whats wrong.
Hiw about trimming sounder reveivers? Mine either catches too much water at speed or is unable to keep depth readings on the plane. Is this nirmal?
I have mind pretty much straight out and having had any problem with it. It may be an issue of mounting height more than angle. I'm trying to think whether mine came with drilling template. Here is the video on the install ua-cam.com/video/hLPsD4oo2vA/v-deo.html
Thanks for that. Much the same, but I suspect I need to lower the transducer even more to get clean flow. Suspect the mounting plate may actually be the culprit so I'll trim that too.
i can only adjust my trim by a pin what would you recommend i keep it at ?
See comments below regarding the procedure for that.
How best to trim for head and following sea?
Heading into the waves I trim up as far as I can to stay as dry as I can - the Green Machine doesn't have much freeboard and is a very wet boat unfortunately. With a following sea I would sit on the back of a wave and trim down more.
Got good news bad news, the good I was told what was wrong with motor (lower unit burned up) bad news not sure if it's worth finding parts- 1973 evinrude 85hp 85393M. Some parts can't find unless I buy complete foot which will be a used one, before I brake it down any advice? Maybe a 90s motor are rebuild?
If you are lucky you might be able to find a whole gearbox at a wreckers that isn't too expensive. That is probably what I would try first.
Dangar Marine Found out it got hit by a car at a red light, seen the weld spots my guess that might have done something Not positive though, will watch your video to remove it.
hi, i have a SIB, 84lbs 3m inflatable with air floor. yamaha 6hp 4stroke, 60lbs,trim pin at 1st position by transom. i just can't get it to go faster than 8mph, can't expect any planing. at full throttle the stern sinks and bow raises, total weight; 2x people+cargo+engine 390lbs do i need a bigger engine? or ride with 1 passenger only. with one passenger it would weigh, 295lb. Should i buy a 9.9hp 2 stroke or get a 9.9hp 4stroke? 4 strokes are heavy, and do you think its ok to put a 15hp 2stroke on it? the boat is rated for 10hp outboard and overall carrying weight of 1100lbs. thanks for your time.
I wouldn't exceed the manufacturers rating for the hull. My inflatable is 2.3m, so quite small, and doesn't fair well with 2 people in it. It's only a 6hp too so you might find the 9.9 makes a difference. You could also try moving more weight forward in the boat if you can.
HI,any way i can ask you a non related question to trimming,its about my 175 merc 2 stroke
Same way as this question!
Ok thanks,i own a Merc 175 V6 - 2 stroke -1997,when i bought the boat the merc gave me a lot of problems,most iron out,execpt,
Burns plugs all the time,changed to hotter plugs as to advise from mercury,
on WOT throttle she cuts out and comes back alive again,
changed the stator as to advise from Mercury,
still does the same,
I have now bought a oil injection pump ,after testing that too much oil is injected,(could relate to the burned plugs) i can not troll as my Merc dies after a while,
What else should be looking at if none of these worked out?
Well explained
Thanks Norman!
Thank you, much appreciated
You're welcome!