Worst Track Day Ever - Road Atlanta on MT-10
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2023
- Just a complete waste of time and effort. No offense to N2 or the control riders, this was all about the group that signed up this time around... What a cluster...
I have done several July 4th weekend track days at Road Atlanta over the years... With NESBA and now with N2. Normally you see an accident or two, and that's it. You get a lot of track time and its well worth dealing with the heat, etc...
Not this time! haha.
I don't know what it was, but there were crashed left on right, many on the first lap... Track was super hot so you know grip was good... Everyone I talked to was really frustrated with how things were going, including the N2 staff. It's like everyone thought they were at the Isle of Man, racing for a podium spot, but without the skill to pull it off. I go out to play a bit and have fun, and I don't want to crash so I tend to hold back a bit. Bike's aren't cheap, and surgery sucks... - Авто та транспорт
Great video. I was there on Sunday for my first track day and was incredibly disappointed. We never got 2 laps in without a red flag. Too many people letting their wrist exceed their skill set. I didn’t even get to learn the nature of the track. Second session a guy runs into turn one and is full bore way past the braking point, tries to turn and goes right off the track in front of my wife who is videoing. She gets to see a violent high side with air time for the rider and bike up close. Guy got carried off in the meat wagon. Don’t know the condition. But, I certainly lost her support in this venture. By third session 2 ambulances hauled off unconscious riders. Then she gave me the red flag.
Anyway, great video and commentary.
Thanks
Yeah, it's a real shame, because it can really ruin the experience for people that are new to the sport. The guy that high sided, was that later in the day, an S1000RR?
Ego gets people hurt, and it sucks that people have to learn that the hard way...
Dang. Sounds like I need to keep my wife away from the track. Don't want to catch that permanent red flag.
Enjoyed the voice over video Dave - added a lot more to it for me. Least you were close to home when cutting it short
Road Atlanta 15 minutes away? Lucky man! Hoping to ride it in the near future.
Huge fan and would love to have a track day with you lol
Solid video my man! Honestly I couldn't imagine that many stops, but obviously it happens. Good work, I've come for the MT-10 content and left with a good laugh about rider electronics.
Dude, the electronics argument really annoys me. The people that always seem to think that they don't need that stuff, that they want to be in control, are almost ALWAYS the people who need electronics the most. Rossi uses them, Josh Herrin uses them, every racer uses them... But some squid that thinks he is fast because he rips down the interstate on his bike, yeah, that guy is beyond the ability of electronic rider aids... lol
@@SquireSCAI had them all turned off on my ‘19 MT-10, but I dig knowing they’re there on my ‘22 10
@@VState60 I would use them. They don't slow you down, they actually make you faster, because you can push harder with more confidence, knowing that they are there if you need it.
I use power mode 1, and keep everything else on, but at the minimal settings... so I can wheelie all over the place, but it won't let it loop... I can have the back end slide a little, but it won't let it get away and high side, etc... These systems are so refined now, that you don't even notice them...
@@SquireSCAmine are all on as well-the least intrusive settings other than ABS and anti-wheelie are both off for the funsies
@@VState60 Yeah, I loke wheelie control on the least setting... I can do effortless wheelies at will, without worrying about looping it... Just pops up, rides it out a bit and softly puts it down. Almost makes me look like I know what I am doing. 🙂
10a 10b is second haha. Then 3rd up the hill. Then back down to second down the hill
Ok, so I got that right.... I go from 6th, down to second for 10A/B and then shirt shift to third up the hill and down and then back to 2nd before hitting that last turn onto the front straight. At least at my pace and the way this bike is geared.
I really wish we had been able to get some good hot laps in, but it just wasn't gonna happen...
I had a medium sized fly screen on my MT-10 which did take the wind off and gave the camera some wind protection. But I have had sessions like this where there are constant red flags. Novice and fast groups are usually the worse for this and I think it has also got worse since people started using tyre warmers on track-days - they try too hard before they (the rider!) is warmed up properly. I always ride to the track which keeps me from pushing too hard as I know I can't get home easily if I bin it! I don't know if I've missed any videos on accessories - but how did you find the foot pegs or have you fitted rear sets? That's the limiting factor on the track for the MT-10 - scaping foot pegs everywhere! But again it just means you have tons in reserve as the chassis has plenty left.
Just ordered the Puig touring screen. Will see if that helps...
Dave all my sons said stop coughing haha!!! Man this was crazy all those wrecks. Goodness shit
Chronic allergies, and my wife and I feel like we are fighting a cold, sorry for all the throat clearing. I had to stop recording for a few minutes while I had a coughing fit, and then continue.
@@SquireSCA its all good brother we had a good laugh but then we all started to worry. I was just at georgia close to macon. Man that smoke from canadian fires is serious. Messed with me
Awesome video man. I've only ridden angry once before on a track day, and it was because I was seeing the same kind of nonsense. I pulled myself off early like you did on this day here.
"Novice" isn't some type of knock on your character. Track days should be fun. We all want to go fast, and we all have egos--that's fine. But we all want to go home too. There's nobody to impress at a track day. They give out trophies on race days.
I'm glad you made this video and hope it helps some people check their egos a bit and actually work on their riding. A dangerous novice level will not help this sport grow at all. Cheers.
Great content, I've got a '18 that I picked up late last summer for $9500 with 1k mi on it. A yosh 3/4 system and a Vcyclenut flash, I don't know where you're going to get more "bang for buck". Old gen still a piece of cake to flash. Thanks for the time, effort, content!
Nice video and nice meeting you on the Mountain today. Who knew that I was subscribed to you and this video popped up! - Red Mini :)
Dude! That's awesome. I have seen comments from you before and never made the connection. haha
Good to meet you. Love that car!
I was there as well on Sunday, and so excited to ride this track! It took me most of the day to feel comfortable because of all the craziness. Loved your video and narration! 👍🏻
Thanks, appreciate it!
Road Atlanta is amazing. Super bummer it didn’t work out for you. Might have to bring my mt10 out there.
Great video. I've watched a few of your others (wanting to buy an MT10sp) and I happen to be moving to Dawsonville in two weeks. I've had a couple of R1s and have an Africa Twin now (Living in Miami and taken it out West for the UT and CO BDR and East for the MADRA and TAT). I'm looking forward to some great back roads and hitting Road Atlanta at some point as well. Thx.
Hit me up on a nice day once you get settled in. Lots of great roads around here I can show you...
@@SquireSCA will do thx. We looked at homes around braselton but the noise from the track was a no go for my wife. It sounded like music to me…
Dawsoneville is nice puts you closer to the mountains, and there is another race track in Dawsonville.
Nice video, and yeah it was hot af. It really sucked that in some sessions you couldn’t even finish a lap. I was out there in your group on my rc390, any change you have some recording of me, I’m sure I’ve seen you flying past me on the straights 😂
What bike were you on? Honesty, this video is all I have... Normally I would have like 5 or 6 full sessions on video... this time I had a lap or two here and there and put them all into one video...
@ 0:54 on the right ktm rc 390, white suit. I was surprised to still see a bike on the kickstand in the gravel during the 7th session.
Dave, I looked everywhere to PM you. I have 22’ speed twin. I’d like some how to’s on using OBD link to install a mild map .
I can help... what mods have you done to the bike? I can just share a map with you, so all you have to do is flash it to the bike.
You mentioned at 18:48 riding a Z900 on Road Atlanta. Do you still own one or have any footage? How was it on track? Thanks! Great video.
Don't have it any more, but I have a ton of Z900 RS content on the channel, just do a quick search for it. But here it is on Road Atlanta:
ua-cam.com/video/AtPAFMsrFvw/v-deo.html
Dave thanks for sharing! I’m 6’3 300lb and on a ‘22 MT-10 I ride on track-what are your spring rates front and back if you don’t mind sharing?
I don't know the rates, I would have to call over to the shop and ask Kent if he has it in his notes. I know that we did Racetech springs up front, and then a 3 way Nitron shock in the back spring for my weight...
@@SquireSCAjust had Tman do the same with my forks and 1.3 springs and I’m in need of getting my shock resprung. Lmk if ya do ask-what do you weigh?
@@VState60 Thermosman? Does that mean you are local to the Atlanta area? I weigh 245 currently plus gear...
@@SquireSCA Thermosman, yessir-I’m in Orlando and mostly ride Jennings GP
Nice. I was at Jennings once... had a 2007 Yamaha FZ1 with Traxxion Dynamics Forkes, Penske 3 way shock, upgraded front brake rotors, braided lines, Hyperpro steering damper, exhaust, airbox mod, some of Ivan's mods and full tune, 520 conversion and some other goodies. Was a fun track on that thing. I live 15 miles from Road Atlanta, so that's where I do everything these days...
If you ever head up this way, or do the Dragon or North GA Mtns, let me know ahead of time and we can try to meet up.
A great Trackday saga! And so what, who needs the scream of the bike; a good narrative (and I hope you give up smoking). As a sport rider now in his 60's, my (dozen) trackdays might be past me... but I got a good sniff here. PS- May I take a chance and guess... Independently Wealthy? (-:
I have never smoked. Chronic allergies, and I might be fighting a cold. My wife has it too. haha
Independently wealthy? Who?
This is very informative and you're a good narrator. My experience for what it is worth is that with the heat comes brain fade. I'm going to give high summer days a miss.
That makes sense, but I have been to that track on other hot summer days and never encountered anything like it...
In certain situations they will put tye ambulances on track. But obviously it has to be pretty bad.
Yeah, I think if its a case where someone is gonna bleed out, they would do what they have to do...
It really was a cluster yesterday... Never seen it like that...
run an R1 rear wheel and sprocket (or just change the rear sprocket tooth count to what the R1 has) and it'll calm the lift down ideally for track ESP for Road ATL. I used to rail my FZ-10 and that got me faster laps at Road ATL as I would fight the wheelies less after T5 and T11 and it added like 5 or so MPH top speed around T9 full pinned. As for those red Flags... intermediate and Novice... it just be like that sometimes. Cheers! Good content!
Well, I love the gearing for the street so I am gonna leave it. The new MT-10 has the same electronics package as the R1, so it has slide and lift control so while it wheelies, it won't allow it to get too out of hand... But turn 10b, that uphill in second gear really has it working overtime... Not worried about higher top speed on the straight because anything over 140 on a naked bike, sucks... If I feel like I need more speed, the ZX14R hits 170mph with ease on that straight, and the wind protection is awesome...
Yeah I took a tooth off the back of my MT-10 - it was enough to calm the bike down making 3rd gear usable full-throttle without it trying to flip - but if you like the excitement of wheelies all the time - then why not!
My first trackday was similar to this; there were 12 crashes and thus 12 red flags including one airlift. Since it was my first trackday I thought it was normal, but since then I've seen a lot of warm up crashes. I hypothesize it's because riders will remember how fast they were going in their last session, and then go too fast during the warm up lap.
Because on my first trackday I could only get a sport touring front and a sport rear Battlax due to supply constraints, I ended up with an oddly unbalanced bike; that rear tire was slicker than snot on the warm up lap. I did go back and forth on tires before realizing that sport-touring tires were just fine at my pace but that their no warm-up requirement made them way safer.
Dave it was nice meeting you, let me know when you sign up for the next event. I think I’m gonna do August 12 at Barber w/ Sportbike Track Day.
Great to meet you as well! I likely won't be doing one for awhile. Honestly, I have more fun on the street, where I get to spend all day riding for 1/10th the price. haha
Maybe I will do one in the spring...
I was there as crew member helping out a friend with his new bike. Man Novice couldn't catch a break lol.I did see the video on jamies channel about the s1000rr high siding. Yeah I don't remember hearing one good from that guy. We were only there for Saturday, but still sucked for noivce with the amount of crashes happening. Been out of commission this season, but hope to see you out there next year!
I will go back next year... it is a great track, but I am going back to only doing track days in the spring or fall. Summer is just too hot and miserable out there...
I was there that weekend too. Motor let go on the 3rd or 4th session.
Was a clusterfuck in novice though, you guys didn't get a full session until the last one or two of the day.
You’re just a sandbagger!!! Low key Advanced rider out there 😜
Not advanced. Intermediate, sure. I have been bumped to Intermediate in years past. One time I didn't have a choice, at little Tally.
this was very entertaining
Loved the voiceover. We never saw each other i believe, but i was in a grey Gsxr with black stripes. Lots of info i didnt know about until you mentioned. Found the s1k story hilarious.
The S1Krr dude was a total noob... Just a horrible attitude. Just because you bought a fast bike, doesn't mean you are a fast rider. I have a tuned ZX14R that's stupid fast in a straight, but it doesn't really improve my laptimes, you know?
@@SquireSCA saw the video Jamie posted for that guy's high side. He was still on his seat. I had to dodge his bike in the middle of the road.
@@Meowmii4023 Can you post the link here? Would love to see it.
@@SquireSCA ua-cam.com/video/TV8k8Huypo4/v-deo.html
I was there Sunday. There was a tall big bald guy complaining to a control rider about passing in Novice. After standing there listening to him cry for about 5 minutes, I cut him off to ask the control rider my question. Might be the same guy you’re talking about. He was making claims about “I don’t care about the money, I own a million dollar business”. Dude! 😂
Not sure, I mean, the guy I was talking about crashed hard, high sided while being evaluated for his bump to Intermediate... The irony...
Here is a link to the video. Bad line, his ass was glued to the seat so he had to lean over too far, and it looks like he had the rider aids turned off, because clearly he didn't need them... But he did remember to let his leg dangle like he saw Rossi do on TV, so that people would recognize his skillz... ;-)
ua-cam.com/video/TV8k8Huypo4/v-deo.html
2 years ago I was at road atlanta with n2 intermediate group. 6/7 sessions had a red flag on Saturday and Sunday was pretty much the same. it was a disaster weekend
amazing grip true, but too hot of a surface can make tires loose grip if they get too hot :)
In radio they have a "cough button". I wonder if something like that is available for UA-cam content creators.
I wish... Really bad allergies, or a cold that morning... Just trying to make the best of things...
Im around the top of Intermediate with N2 I was there this past weekend. My dad and I as well as the people we were pitted with also in I group were even talking about this both days it seemed every session of the weekend for Novice was red flagged. First time ive ever seen a special meeting be called for a group (which i guess doesnt say much cause ive only ridden for 10 months but still). I think throughout the whole weekend there was 3 red flags in I group and I think only 2 in A group unless I missed one. It was definitely ridiculous and im sure frustrating for the people in novice that were just victims of their time being stolen from them that they paid for by the people that have the rossi syndrome.
Yeah, I have never had a special meeting, and in our case there were 2. One on the grid, and then a second one in the pits after lunch. Q and some of the other control riders were kinda shocked at how things were going...
A taller windscreen definitely helps / improves aerodynamics 😎🏁🏁
Yeah, I installed the Puig touring screen after the track day. Will also be nice in the winter months, deflecting some of that cold air...
ua-cam.com/video/TV8k8Huypo4/v-deo.html
Is this the guy that highsided? 😅
I was there on Saturday too. All the flags were wild.
Yup, that's the clown... Rode like a squid all day, and when he finally got his moment to shine and show the control riders how awesome he was, he tossed himself and his pretty bike down the track...
Voice over was actually more enjoyable than listening to the video audio.
Thanks man, I tried to make the best of it. I would have preferred to have the helmet cam with external mic going, so I could narrate as things were happening... but doing it after the fact, I guess does give me time to collect my thoughts, rather than just reacting to whatever is going on...