Scornful Egotist was designed as a way of getting a high mana cost creature on your field for cheap. It combos with cards like Rush of Knowledge, Dispersal Shield, and Cabal Conditioning, all of which are also in Scourge.
That is why he should not have messed with the GREAT LORD EGOTIST. I would also complain about Balduvian Shaman because I have it, but it's so bad I really can't argue with him.
Scornful Egotist came out in a time where converted mana cost mattered. Rush of Knowledge, Energy Tap, Torrent of fire, etc. For only 4, you would get a 8 cmc creature in play for those cards.
+Pika Scribbles But when you do a critical analysis of things from the past, not paying any mind to environment in which a particular object was made makes for a pretty horrible argument. For example, by comparison to today's standard, every PS1 game looks horrible. But at the time, the PS1 bought 3D graphics to consoles and homes everywhere, which was huge. For a lot of these cards, he isn't comparing them to the environment in which these cards were designed. Especially for really old cards (namely anything from ice age and older).
+Volvary you are correct in all statements. I tried to do a proxy draft of mercadian masques, since I started playing during that time. With the new damage on the stack mechanic, most of the cards now are crap. A block staple of masques draft was shock troops. 3R 2/2 sac it to deal 2 damage to creature or player. it would kill almost everything in the block for draft besides a few bombs due to damage on the stack-sac. Now the creature has to be present during damage or it will not do its damage
Aaron Schaub Who told you that? A creature that left the battlefield still has its effects go off. If what you explained was true, they wouldn't had printed Crater Elemental (as recently as Dragons of Tarkir)
Yes, very thematic. I'd argue that the card is actually well designed and thought out...just not particularly useful, but hey--that was flipping Arabian Nights...most of us had never even heard of the game when that came out...heck, many of today's players probably weren't even born when that came out.
+ZA_Survivalist Yes, but forgive me, losing doesn't quite describe the pain you'll feel when you realize what you've done... These cards are forever immortalized in infamy. Cards so bad your pup cowards away at the smell of them, so bad your toddler sound asleep wake up screaming at the touch of them. You'd swear they were designed by a masochist living in a rented apartment in the depths of hell with the devil himself as the landlord...
First of all, Scournful Egoist has nothing to do on this list. It was a card specifically designed for limited play with othr Scourge cards which depended on CMC of your permanents (Rush of Knowledge etc). You can find cards like SE in every single set. They're bad, but the way they're bad often has some further context.
***** Along with a new combo spell for Storm Crows! Storm Crow's Call: Put a blue 1/2 flying bird creature token named Storm Crow onto the battlefield. With Storm Crow Storm - Copy this spell for each card named storm crow that was played this turn. Make it instant, CMC 2U or maybe 2UU. And obviously both Storm Crow and this new card have to be rare, way too OP for limited.
You know what they really should do? make a "From The Vault" set with all these cards!!! It would be awesome to see a new art work for Camel with the FTV foil on it as well. Camel FTW!!!
you realize that banding works for attacking and blocking and since you can assign all the damage if you block, you counter trample. you can also use it to have only 1 creature die from death touch. banding isn't as useful as the other keywords, but it's more useful than people give it credit.
The point of Scornful Egotist is that he works well with "mana cost matters" cards. Example: Rush of Knowledge. If you have a face down Egotist, you can turn him up for U and draw 8 cards for 6 mana.
mapleleaf123456789 I used him in a hominid deck with hominid spawning pool. I get a 2/2 chump blocker who explodes into 8 1/1 lobsters. or even better, with juxtiposition. here, have my 1/1 cvc 8 while I take your akroma. have fun
Scornful Egotist existed for 2 reasons: as a joke (as you noted and made fun of with the flavor text) and as early to mid game fuel for cards that depended on CMC. For example, while not often played now, back when scourge came out, there was a 5 drop burn card called Torrent of Fire that did damage to a creature or player equal to a card's cmc. making a U/R burn deck that consisted of setting a few face down egotists as fuel to do 8 damage for 5 mana as early as turn 4 was a viable strategy. Admittedly, not one that was used often, but a viable one none-the-less. Also, as per worse cards, money's on that cauldron thing from ice age being number one. that shit...if it were less complicated, it wouldn't be so bad...but it's so complicated.
TheManaSource But there's something about finding a use for the worst of the worst that's way more fun to some of us. I love shoehorning bad cards in decks when playing with friends.
I can see a LOT of applications for One with Nothing. Spirit Cairn, Confessor, Telekinetic Bonds, Quest for Ancient Secrets, Countryside Crusher, and of course, ANYTHING WITH MADNESS ON IT.
+Headrock Do those cards have uses when they were printed? Take into fact that wizards probably didnt have knowledge of future prints Edit: Disregard this, replied to wrong post.
+Headrock Especially when using Brink with Madness, make your opponent discard their hand too and get Megrim out before that and you could do some real damage
Okay, you think Scornful Egotist is ugly and useless, and I guess I agree with that. But what you actually said was, "Wizards, tell me what the plan was." The plan was Torrent of Fire and Rush of Knowledge, and maybe Dispersal Shield and Accelerated Mutation. Do you really not know about the mana-cost-matters subtheme of Scourge? And then you compare a common to mythics that you can't reliably cast on turn three. ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
When I the title of this video I knew it would be funny but I can't stop laughing right now. This was too funny that the 8 minutes flew by too quickly!
Hey, with the new Emerge mechanic Scornful Egotist might have a use! Put it down for 3 and morph it, then sac for something much better. Also, couldn't you use Break Open on your own creatures? Basically bypass a large morph cost.
1. its funny becuase there are more deserts now, and camel still ain't gonna do feck all to help 2. i mean i guess it CAN give you a few +1's for pridemate? 3. also madness now, and enbalm/eternalise. 4. i mean its probably a side in some obscure format to counter some obscure thing? 5. unless your opp is playing manifest... *sarcastic giggle* 6. someone has probs made a strat somewhere 7. scornful is designed to work with cards that work with mana cost- like the 'sacrifice, draw equal to converted mana cost'. i run it in my blue vintage- and its brilliant actually.
I can just imagine the Scornful Egotist trying to show off in front of his friends. "BEHOLD, my glorious transformation!" *Whooshes of magic* *Becomes a puddle* "Oh. Nice job man." *snickering* "Reeeeaaaal ascension." "Are you appalled? Quaking with fear?" "Oh," *increased chortling* "We're appalled alright." *All burst out laughing* You know, maybe that's why he's scornful. Because people always laughed at him. And they should. Because he's awful.
I use the card in a number of decks - it rocks with madness, threshold, & hellbent, and it's not terrible w/ flashback or buyback. It's bad to a lot of ppl by itself, by the potential is limitless
. . . I get the feeling these cards are taken out of context for the laugh factor. Especially Scornful Egotist. *Especially* Scornful Egotist. Balduvian Shaman is weird, though, because its set also had Sleight of Mind - which was just a bit more potent. Maybe just a smidge. (And yes, it was playable. Didn't say good, just playable.) A creature which can do it repeatedly, though . . . had to have the drawback. Still don't know why Cumulative Upkeep was chosen when normal upkeep could have been enough. . . . and Camel, well, this needs to be said. Early MTG had a lot of cards which we'd never consider playable (ever) anymore. Also a lot of cards which were simply too damn good. Ancestral Recall? Too damn good. Lightning Bolt, Dark Ritual? Too damn good, and hung around too damn long. Healing Salve? Don't think many people would touch that one anymore. Camel was one of those which when it was around, it was interesting. Especially when Deserts could be a potential problem attacking into, when playing White Weenie. Solution? Camel. Better solution? Stone Rain. (Another card too good at its casting cost.)
Scornful Egotist was OBVIOUSLY made to be played only as a morph, not as a 8CMC 1/1 was this so called connoisseur tries to believe (how smart is that?). On to strategical tinkering, a morph is an unknown card, being it good or not. What gives here is the mind game, not the card actual power. Which shows a relevant idea behind the red morph turn up card. It all goes around a theme.
For Scornful Egotist, you need to look at the set it was in. Scourge had a lot of cards that relied on high mana cost cards for effects. Like many cards, it had its place in limited but wasn't much use anywhere else.
Juju Bubble is bad, but you're looking at it in the wrong terms. It's a colorless 1xx sorcery with the effect "gain x life". It's not good, not by any standard. But, it's nowhere near bad enough to be on this list.
The Shaman was acutally used back in the day with COP's and was a pretty big lock down as it didn't matter which COP you drew. Imagine having 20 COP's of whichever type you happened to need?
One important thing to note with Break Open is that it was printed before morph triggers existed. Granted, they came out in the next set (Legions), but it had some uses in Limited. A large portion of morph creatures did something when they hit you, and knowing what they were in advance gave you a slight advantage. Still, it wasn't played much because there were also a decent number of creatures that were just huge dudes with high morph costs, but at least its existence makes a bit more sense in context. Like with Scornful Egotist mentioned below. It's hard to decide whether to look at a card in a vacuum or in the context of its set/time. I would argue that the latter makes more sense.
About the scornful egotist card: You can play it as a 2/2 creature morphed. Also, in the same edition there is a blue spell (dont remember the name) that allows you to draw cards, based on your most expensive creature in play. So the strategy is to either play the egotist as a simple 2/2 creature, or flip it with 1 blue mana, use your spell and draw 8 cards.
Actually, I was recently considering getting One with Nothing for my Hellbent / Madness deck. During the opponents attack phase it could mean a huge swing.
Going to break this down as I see it (I know this is an old video but it just recently popped up on my suggested list). Camel - I agree with this. Even though back then there were not so many cards so there were more people holding the Desert card. This forced either the opponent to kill Camel before the attack or to suffer a large attack. Only way this would work in ones advantage is band with one other creature and play instants to pump up the pair. Juju Bubble - This card can actually work. Many old combinations allowed for the use of cards like this. Such as play this card, use ability, play another card, sacrifice this card, "when a card enters the graveyard from play..." affect takes place to trigger something big. But it is rare, and forces you to have at least 10% of your deck based on this one card. #10 - One with nothing - I actually use to use this card a lot. Not sure the name of cards for the combination but I use to use it to discard my hand, gain life equal either creatures or sorceries or something else. And let us not forget the possible you set up the next card on the stack to be a card that says something like "bring all creatures from your graveyard to the battlefield" and you have an enchantment (or something) on the field that allows you to draw a card. Yes still really hard to set up, but so very easy to work with. Plus with this type of set up, instead of making a certain amount of cards built around this combination, you could just have this floating in your deck waiting to take place if need be. #9 - Cephalid Snitch - I just out right agree. To weak of an effect to be sacrificing a creature that cost more than it should. #8 - Break Open - Ignoring the modern day goods of morph/megamor, this card is pretty decent. Back then there were a lot more "Destroy (color) creature)" or "Destroy non-black non-colorless creature", well turning the card over allows you to do so. Just saying, I understand what you pointing out, but this card does have beneficial use (back then), now a days it is to risky to flip someone else's creature. #7 - Balduvian Shaman - I FREAKING LOVE THIS CARD. With a solid set of combinations of white cards you want to change the wording for you force your opponent to try and kill this card first. I have used this card with a white, blue and red haste enchantment deck. Changing white cards to how I wanted it, red keeping speed (haste) and defense and blue having some sort of return card allowing the "cumulative upkeep" to be reset to 0. And costing 1 blue, with my Sand Silos, early building of mana then spending it all at once, I could use this card/combo multiple times in a single turn. (this deck had animate wall and rolling stones... so much fun) #6 - Scornful Egotist - WTF! I never even heard of that card. BURN IT BURN THE IDEA OF IT. Bad just Bad. (going to watch part two now -- sorry but reposting this half on the next video too)
The scornful egotist is designed for it's high mana cost you can play early in game with the morphing ability. Scourge had some high manacost based cards like Rush of Knowledge, Torrent of Fire,.. So basically I don't think he's that bad.
Glenn Van Rompaey Yup, exactly. It actually kind of irks me whenever someone includes the egotist on their top worst lists since it was designed solely to take advantage of that scourge mechanic.
Glenn Van Rompaey I agree I think it might hit some other "mana cost matters" type situations even for other sets, like that red damage spell that digs via scry then does damage based on mana cost ..as an example
I know I'm a little late to the party on this video but omg I couldn't stop laughing. Dude you are the best. Since I've found your videos I've been binge watching them. I've laughed, I've cried, shouted in anger and joy. You are awesome, keep it up.
Scornful Egotist, while kind of bad in other plays, was practically depended on for a Parallel Thoughts + Rush of Knowledge combo. Instant 7 of your best cards into your hand. Fun deck to play.
6:49 I understand that the card is bad, but you should know what the plan of the card was; Scourge heavily revolves around permanent's converted mana cost, like "draw cards equal to the highest converted mana cost among permanents", or many other effects. The reason you would play Scournful Egotist is because you can get it into play via Morph for only 4 mana total. Meaning you can have a "converted mana cost 8" - permanent as early as turn 4, which can have some good effects, despite the card itself not doing anything other than being in play and pretending to cost a ton of mana.
Wedge Wedge Wedge, Scourge was the Cares about mana cost set. You Can Draw 8 Cards off of Scornful Egotist if you have rush of Knowledge, You can Discard him to Blast of Genious for 8 Damage You can reveal him with Eratic Explosion or Kaboom! and deal 8 Damage Also Riddle of Lightning or My favorite use, Sacrifice him to a Homarid Spawning bed and make 8 1/1 camarid tokens. AFTER you rush of knowledge off of him.
There are 6 cards in Scourge designed to be played in Scornful Egotist decks: Accelerated Mutation, Cabal Conditioning, Dispersal Shield, Reward the Faithful, Rush of Knowledge, and Torrent of Fire.
Sorrow's Path. It's got to be in the next 5. Back in the day, I bought about 6 boxes of The Dark. I got many copies of this hemorrhoid-inducing butt bomb. I...tried to get it to work in decks. I still have the nightmares. Please, TheManaSource , don't make me relive those memories.
Scornful egotist was an attempt at combos for converted mana cost. It with rush of knowledge drew you 8 cards for 5 mana. Both cards are common as well so this was easy and powerful in limited
Dear "one with nothing" join the Cult of Rakdos, I hear they have hellbent over there, have fun being an amazing card that shouldn't have been on this list :D
Pretty good, man! I'd like to see another list like this. If you're dry for ideas: Cards with the best flavor text, coolest abilities and weirdest/most surreal art. Or.. Best Banding cards. Huehuehuehue
Scornful egotist was meant to be used in junction with the cards in the set the revolve around "The highest converted mana cost amongst creatures you control". The idea was to sneak it out and have a CMC of 8 on board, but you still paid 4 for a 1/1 so... yeah....
One with nothing is an AMAZING card! Hellbent, Dredge, Delve... counters to a lot of the red spells that do more for the cards in your hand, oh, and madness, and a good way to stop effects like balace, so that if you have the most cards in hand, in reaction, you cast it and now everyone draws way less.
"Pay eight mana to make a 2/2 a 1/1 but.... but... it... I don't know just print it." - The R&D team for the most premium card game in the known universe.
But why. Because you've forgotten what it was? Because it'll make you feel better somehow? Because you've taped a picture of a cat to the front that'll put you in a positive match about losing the match? Why is there no morph effect?
Fugitive Wizard exists only to mess with the heads of your opponents. They'll be thinking you are going to face him up and he'll be something good but you never will which will worry them! I run one copy of him in my blue/red morph deck. It's funny to see players waste good cards destroying your morphed fugitive wizard because they think he might be something else!
Look up Rush of Knowledge, all will be clear. Converted Mana Cost was the theme of that set, that card was a house in draft, flip up your egotist and rush of knowledge and draw 8 cards gg you win.
Scornful Egotist pairs off nicely with Rush of Knowledge and Dispersal Shield, provided you paid the morph cost. It's not going to win any tournaments but it made kids at my lunch table cry back when Scourge was in standard.
im am uncertain if i watched every frame of this video wandering over my screen since midway through the cards i desperatly started looking for hard things to throw my head against.. these - lets call them "cards" make me sangry (ha, get it? sad + angry = sa.. nevermind) I acknowledge the pain and effort you went through making this video, in that regard thank you. ('t was a good laugh :D) *hands over a bit of the faith in magic left over to wedge* take this, man!
One with nothing has some good uses in certain decks. For example, I play commander against a player who plays nekusaur and winds of change. For each card in your hand, shuffle it into your deck and draw that many cards. Then nekusaur deals 1 damage for each card that you drew. Having to draw 0 cards means taking 0 damage. Losing pro-black is useful for a mono black poison deck. I also play against someone who does this. I can use break open with another card that lets me look at face down cards to reveal a powerful creature, then play altered ego or a combo act of treason sacrifice. Scornful egotist can be used as bait for a break open. All I can say about the shaman is it's a good 1 drop for blue players in commander, where you can't have duplicate cards
Scornful Egotist was made because the set had a 'CMC matters' theme, and the idea was to be able to bet an 8 CMC creature on the field by only paying 4 mana for it (or less if you could cheat it face up)
Scornful Egotist is one of my favourite creatures... it's so unique in what it does. It matters for cards that care about converted mana costs, and you can get an 8 CMC card on the board for just three mana with the Morph mechanic. What cards care about CMC of creatures you have in play? Well... maybe none? But one day... one day the Egotist will rise and you will all regret ignoring him EDIT: I read the rest of these comments and you guys are being mean to Wedge about including the Egotist. Just wanted to clarify I'm just kidding because some of you are legit jerks.
scronful egotist was a limited card that turned on cards that cared about converted mana cost, for example there was a red card that did damage to target creature equal to the highest converted mana cost among permanents you control. Egotist was a morph card that had its place in its block.
The plan with Scounful Egotist was that you would use IN LIMITED this card to "abuse" some cards where casting cost matters... in that set, in limited a few times that worked.
Cast Scornful Egotist for 3 colorless. Next turn flip it for 1 blue and tap 1 green to cast Mockery of Nature (6/5 when cast destroy target artifact or enchantment). Or instead cast Wretched Gryff (3/4 flying draw a card when cast) in your pauper deck. :)
"The only strategy it could be good in" Clearly you need to do a bit more research. To add to what others have said, there was also a Barren Glory deck that used One With nothing to empty your hand for the final win condition. Just because you haven't seen or were around for some fo these decks (or smart enough to see how they could be useful) does not make these cards bad.
-Well, Camel's stats are worse than Benalish Hero. But I think Desert's might have been a big deal when they came out. I mean, there where not many other non-standard lands around back then, so playing 4 Deserts was probably common. Also, Banding is a good ability. -Juju Bubble was a way to get life for red and blue decks. There are not many alternatives. It makes half the life points of Stream of Life, but it can be used several times. -One with Nothing was probably for combos, even if I can not think of any. Madness maybe? I think there is a Knight that needs a convenient way to get creatures into the graveyard. -I can not think of any use for Cephalid Snitch. If it was "A creature uses protection from blue", maybe? -Maybe Break open was to stop the opponent from using his morph abilities? But yes, most of the time it would be better to just kill that thing with Shock. -Balduvian Shaman lets you use Circles of Protection or something like that without having dead cards in you deck. Also, 1/1 for (B) is acceptable. -Scournful Egoist is clearly for cards that count mana costs, like Energy Tap.
swamp, one with nothing, 3 basking rootwallas, dread return, and any creature guarantees that you can get any creature on TURN 1. I would advise getting griselbrand for this combo
Also, the old morph art is way cooler than the current one. Sure, we get a giant glowing ball of dragon-shaped fire, but back then they had bald, shelled spider things with stuff inside of them. Much more scary army of morphs.
Scornful egotist was good in limited and was fun in casual. Scourge was a set built on big converted mana cost cards. I used to love playing egotist turn 2 as a morph in my green bluIe deck then turn 3 having counter spell mana plus bird or land to flip it. Then turn 4I could draw 8 cards if I needed more cards with rush of knowledge. Honestly I really like the card.
About Scornful Egoist: In Scourge Set, designers made a cycle of cards that works on Converted Mana Cost (like Dragon's Aura Cycle, Rush of Knowledge, Dispersal Shield ecc.). I saw a guy get synergies by that piece of garbage
Sorry, I only play Standard, but I could see Cephalid Snitch being good as a sideboard to make sure your black removal spells go through protection spells (gods willing, feat of strength). But Im assuming stuff like that isnt important in legacy (would be a cool card vs UW heroic in standard as abzan or sultai or UB). Im also assuming the sacrifice can be played as an instant.
Scornful Egotist was designed as a way of getting a high mana cost creature on your field for cheap. It combos with cards like Rush of Knowledge, Dispersal Shield, and Cabal Conditioning, all of which are also in Scourge.
Yea drawing 8 cards with rush of knowledge was no joke
Beat me to it. This was a block and draft card. It was in the starter deck that had Rush of Knowledge in it.
Not to mention it's at least as 2/2 for 3 which is certainly not one of the 10 worst, Just hope they don't break it open.
Not to mention Hedron Matrix turn 5 9/9
That is why he should not have messed with the GREAT LORD EGOTIST.
I would also complain about Balduvian Shaman because I have it, but it's so bad I really can't argue with him.
Terrible cards cause Wedge to lose his normally chipper spirit...it's like you can see his joy slowly break in two. Bad cards! Leave Wedge alone! BAD!
Many MTG players ask the question: WHY ARE THOSE CARDS SO BAD ?
What are you dong here tolorian college
Scornful Egotist came out in a time where converted mana cost mattered. Rush of Knowledge, Energy Tap, Torrent of fire, etc. For only 4, you would get a 8 cmc creature in play for those cards.
+Volvary Yes, but now, it sucks. We aren't in that time period anymore now, aren't we?
+Pika Scribbles But when you do a critical analysis of things from the past, not paying any mind to environment in which a particular object was made makes for a pretty horrible argument.
For example, by comparison to today's standard, every PS1 game looks horrible. But at the time, the PS1 bought 3D graphics to consoles and homes everywhere, which was huge.
For a lot of these cards, he isn't comparing them to the environment in which these cards were designed. Especially for really old cards (namely anything from ice age and older).
+Volvary you are correct in all statements. I tried to do a proxy draft of mercadian masques, since I started playing during that time. With the new damage on the stack mechanic, most of the cards now are crap. A block staple of masques draft was shock troops. 3R 2/2 sac it to deal 2 damage to creature or player. it would kill almost everything in the block for draft besides a few bombs due to damage on the stack-sac. Now the creature has to be present during damage or it will not do its damage
Aaron Schaub Who told you that? A creature that left the battlefield still has its effects go off. If what you explained was true, they wouldn't had printed Crater Elemental (as recently as Dragons of Tarkir)
I was referring to combat damage not his sac effect
As terrible as Camel is you have to love that flavor.
Yes, very thematic. I'd argue that the card is actually well designed and thought out...just not particularly useful, but hey--that was flipping Arabian Nights...most of us had never even heard of the game when that came out...heck, many of today's players probably weren't even born when that came out.
MTGPhlogisten Can't argue with that. xD
Legend says that if you cast all 10 of these in a single game, your mind and body will transcend the feeble realm of mortals...
Or you'll lose the game.. Horribly.
+ZA_Survivalist Yes, but forgive me, losing doesn't quite describe the pain you'll feel when you realize what you've done... These cards are forever immortalized in infamy. Cards so bad your pup cowards away at the smell of them, so bad your toddler sound asleep wake up screaming at the touch of them. You'd swear they were designed by a masochist living in a rented apartment in the depths of hell with the devil himself as the landlord...
Fugitive Wizard is boring. Who wants to watch an entire video of me just naming 10 1/1's with no abilities? lol
#1. Black Lotus.
Gaben Be Praised Blacker Lotus...
Donovan Simmons thats racist...
Donovan Simmons Biggest Blackest Lotus.
First of all, Scournful Egoist has nothing to do on this list. It was a card specifically designed for limited play with othr Scourge cards which depended on CMC of your permanents (Rush of Knowledge etc). You can find cards like SE in every single set. They're bad, but the way they're bad often has some further context.
Dude you can break open your opponent's Egotist to make it lose a single power and toughness.
drewdog50 *mind blown*
but you can't fatal push it, even with revolt, THAT'S WHY EGOTIST IS OP, NEEDS TO BE NERFED!
They should reprint Camel in Magic 2016 core set, it is funny.
Actualy they should print more camel's so we can make camel tribal deck. :P
Antonio Cepaj Camel tribal hype?
***** Along with a new combo spell for Storm Crows! Storm Crow's Call: Put a blue 1/2 flying bird creature token named Storm Crow onto the battlefield. With Storm Crow Storm - Copy this spell for each card named storm crow that was played this turn. Make it instant, CMC 2U or maybe 2UU. And obviously both Storm Crow and this new card have to be rare, way too OP for limited.
M16 should have a Storm Crow based intro deck. It would be awesome.
You know what they really should do? make a "From The Vault" set with all these cards!!! It would be awesome to see a new art work for Camel with the FTV foil on it as well. Camel FTW!!!
"Camel Lord" 1WW
Other Camel creatures you control get +1/+1 and have rampage 666 and banding.
2/2
{2}: Gain a new childhood.
you realize that banding works for attacking and blocking and since you can assign all the damage if you block, you counter trample. you can also use it to have only 1 creature die from death touch.
banding isn't as useful as the other keywords, but it's more useful than people give it credit.
The point of Scornful Egotist is that he works well with "mana cost matters" cards.
Example: Rush of Knowledge. If you have a face down Egotist, you can turn him up for U and draw 8 cards for 6 mana.
mapleleaf123456789 I used him in a hominid deck with hominid spawning pool. I get a 2/2 chump blocker who explodes into 8 1/1 lobsters. or even better, with juxtiposition. here, have my 1/1 cvc 8 while I take your akroma. have fun
Scornful Egotist existed for 2 reasons: as a joke (as you noted and made fun of with the flavor text) and as early to mid game fuel for cards that depended on CMC.
For example, while not often played now, back when scourge came out, there was a 5 drop burn card called Torrent of Fire that did damage to a creature or player equal to a card's cmc. making a U/R burn deck that consisted of setting a few face down egotists as fuel to do 8 damage for 5 mana as early as turn 4 was a viable strategy. Admittedly, not one that was used often, but a viable one none-the-less.
Also, as per worse cards, money's on that cauldron thing from ice age being number one. that shit...if it were less complicated, it wouldn't be so bad...but it's so complicated.
Rush of knowledge with scornful egotist and draw 8 cards. It was a thing
Riddle of lightning?
Turn 3 - Morph Scornful Egotist
Turn 4 - Flip it up and play something else with your leftover 3 mana.
Turn 5 - Rush of Knowledge, draw 8 cards
:D
thesamuraiman I would never ever do this. There are way more fun/efficient ways to draw a bunch of cards xD
TheManaSource But there's something about finding a use for the worst of the worst that's way more fun to some of us. I love shoehorning bad cards in decks when playing with friends.
TheManaSource Don't forget that Azami can tap him to draw a card even if he doesn't have real fingers #value
I can see a LOT of applications for One with Nothing. Spirit Cairn, Confessor, Telekinetic Bonds, Quest for Ancient Secrets, Countryside Crusher, and of course, ANYTHING WITH MADNESS ON IT.
+Headrock Oh, and I totally forgot decks that work on filling the graveyard with stuff. Like THRESHOLD decks.
+Headrock Don't forget that One With Nothing is an Instant. Madness on your opponent's turn has power.
+Headrock Do those cards have uses when they were printed?
Take into fact that wizards probably didnt have knowledge of future prints
Edit: Disregard this, replied to wrong post.
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Use dashes to make -strikeout- text. It's great for retracting comments without erasing them entirely.
+Headrock Especially when using Brink with Madness, make your opponent discard their hand too and get Megrim out before that and you could do some real damage
Scornful Egotist was printed in a CMC-matters set tho
I think this is my new favorite video
Nateson
Okay, you think Scornful Egotist is ugly and useless, and I guess I agree with that. But what you actually said was, "Wizards, tell me what the plan was." The plan was Torrent of Fire and Rush of Knowledge, and maybe Dispersal Shield and Accelerated Mutation. Do you really not know about the mana-cost-matters subtheme of Scourge? And then you compare a common to mythics that you can't reliably cast on turn three. ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
Hear hear!
I had to remove seven cards from my deck after watching that.
Hahaha lol
I have to throw out my decc.
When I the title of this video I knew it would be funny but I can't stop laughing right now. This was too funny that the 8 minutes flew by too quickly!
ZeriocTheTank Glad you enjoyed it!
"one with nothing" was invented as a counter to the "Howling mine"+"The Rack" combo that was popular at the time.
howling mine + black vice you mean
Hey, with the new Emerge mechanic Scornful Egotist might have a use! Put it down for 3 and morph it, then sac for something much better.
Also, couldn't you use Break Open on your own creatures? Basically bypass a large morph cost.
No, break open can only target an opponents creature.
But yes, scornful egotist is boss.
1. its funny becuase there are more deserts now, and camel still ain't gonna do feck all to help
2. i mean i guess it CAN give you a few +1's for pridemate?
3. also madness now, and enbalm/eternalise.
4. i mean its probably a side in some obscure format to counter some obscure thing?
5. unless your opp is playing manifest... *sarcastic giggle*
6. someone has probs made a strat somewhere
7. scornful is designed to work with cards that work with mana cost- like the 'sacrifice, draw equal to converted mana cost'. i run it in my blue vintage- and its brilliant actually.
Back in Onslaught, one of my friends played Break Open.... onto a morphed Krosan Cloudscaper.
Hillarity ensued.
For the record, Scourge had a CMC matters theme in it. That is literally the entire reasoning for Scornful Egotist.
Source: MaRo's podcast on Scourge
I completely agree with this list, especially Scornful Egotist.
So many people online are trolls and say tha-ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST
+Quazz Princeton I'm all for that Elegant Egotist myself
Mc0521 He's pretty shi-ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
***** Even with Rush of Knowledge in your deck, Scornful Egotist just isn't-ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
Quazz Princeton Scornful egotist isn't that bad. If you put him in a deck with c-ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
By the way, i was laughing so hard that an entire coffee shop gave me weird looks. Fantastic video
Cody Med haha! Glad you liked the video!
ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST
I can just imagine the Scornful Egotist trying to show off in front of his friends.
"BEHOLD, my glorious transformation!" *Whooshes of magic*
*Becomes a puddle*
"Oh. Nice job man." *snickering* "Reeeeaaaal ascension."
"Are you appalled? Quaking with fear?"
"Oh," *increased chortling* "We're appalled alright." *All burst out laughing*
You know, maybe that's why he's scornful. Because people always laughed at him. And they should. Because he's awful.
One with Nothing was played competitively against Owling Mine decks. So yeah not that bad.
Remember the owling mine deck. One with nothing was a key scoreboard tech. It was the equivalent of relic of progenatus for that standard environment.
Madness cards! One with nothing discards all of them at once
Even better with barren glory -> victory
I'm doing something with this for funsies
I use the card in a number of decks - it rocks with madness, threshold, & hellbent, and it's not terrible w/ flashback or buyback. It's bad to a lot of ppl by itself, by the potential is limitless
. . . I get the feeling these cards are taken out of context for the laugh factor. Especially Scornful Egotist. *Especially* Scornful Egotist.
Balduvian Shaman is weird, though, because its set also had Sleight of Mind - which was just a bit more potent. Maybe just a smidge. (And yes, it was playable. Didn't say good, just playable.) A creature which can do it repeatedly, though . . . had to have the drawback. Still don't know why Cumulative Upkeep was chosen when normal upkeep could have been enough.
. . . and Camel, well, this needs to be said. Early MTG had a lot of cards which we'd never consider playable (ever) anymore. Also a lot of cards which were simply too damn good. Ancestral Recall? Too damn good. Lightning Bolt, Dark Ritual? Too damn good, and hung around too damn long. Healing Salve? Don't think many people would touch that one anymore. Camel was one of those which when it was around, it was interesting. Especially when Deserts could be a potential problem attacking into, when playing White Weenie. Solution? Camel. Better solution? Stone Rain. (Another card too good at its casting cost.)
Scornful Egotist was OBVIOUSLY made to be played only as a morph, not as a 8CMC 1/1 was this so called connoisseur tries to believe (how smart is that?). On to strategical tinkering, a morph is an unknown card, being it good or not. What gives here is the mind game, not the card actual power. Which shows a relevant idea behind the red morph turn up card. It all goes around a theme.
And, Scourge had a CMC subtheme with a lot of "CMC matters" cards. Egotist is narrow as hell sure, but not top 10 worst card material
That's how I always played it, as a gambit.
Im so glad you made this video Wedge, it's hilarious.
Yeah iceage was a weird set. Dat brainstorm art tho.
For Scornful Egotist, you need to look at the set it was in. Scourge had a lot of cards that relied on high mana cost cards for effects. Like many cards, it had its place in limited but wasn't much use anywhere else.
Juju Bubble is bad, but you're looking at it in the wrong terms. It's a colorless 1xx sorcery with the effect "gain x life". It's not good, not by any standard. But, it's nowhere near bad enough to be on this list.
Caitiff (a year later) You're right ,thats why its an honorable mention.
The idea behind Scornful Egotist was to take advantage of “cost matters” spells that came out in the same expansion, spells like Rush of Knowledge.
ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
TheCaliger NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Wait why is every one prai- ALL HAIL THE GREAT LORD EGOTIST!
Each exam season I take a break and re watch this masterpiece to relax. Wedge you are THE man.
I changed my mind... I want to die now. Seriously though, great vid. looking forward to the other parts.
Raaanch Glad you enjoyed xD
Scourge had a "cmc matters" thing going on, so scornful egotist was decent in that block. 8cmc on the board for 3 + 1 to flip did some stuff.
Even the camel in the art looks sad
The Shaman was acutally used back in the day with COP's and was a pretty big lock down as it didn't matter which COP you drew. Imagine having 20 COP's of whichever type you happened to need?
Oh come on wedge. your opponents at 1, the have a face down ashcloud phoenix. Don't you wanna break open to kill someone like that?
ASteelersMidget haha
One important thing to note with Break Open is that it was printed before morph triggers existed. Granted, they came out in the next set (Legions), but it had some uses in Limited. A large portion of morph creatures did something when they hit you, and knowing what they were in advance gave you a slight advantage.
Still, it wasn't played much because there were also a decent number of creatures that were just huge dudes with high morph costs, but at least its existence makes a bit more sense in context. Like with Scornful Egotist mentioned below.
It's hard to decide whether to look at a card in a vacuum or in the context of its set/time. I would argue that the latter makes more sense.
Worst MTG video ever! Why would you inflict such horrible pain upon your viewers?
10/10
Richard Comstock I did warn you xD
About the scornful egotist card: You can play it as a 2/2 creature morphed. Also, in the same edition there is a blue spell (dont remember the name) that allows you to draw cards, based on your most expensive creature in play. So the strategy is to either play the egotist as a simple 2/2 creature, or flip it with 1 blue mana, use your spell and draw 8 cards.
The last card tho........I can't breath...
Ainsley Harriott Me neither...me neither.
TheManaSource The best part is how he was erratta'd into being a human wizard. So much for being "far more."
So, even if you morph, you're paying 4 mana for a 1/1 with no abilities? That thing's better as a 2/2! piece of shite!
TheManaSource i heard it was designed for deck that had interaction with the converted mana cost i wouldnt play it but there are combos with it
Rubén García Cortés Could be good in a deck with Food Chain
my friend happily played the egotist in his legacy pod, straight into inkwell leviathan. I wasnt laughing at it then
you're pretty funny man
Shant Massoyan Thanks xD
yup
Actually, I was recently considering getting One with Nothing for my Hellbent / Madness deck. During the opponents attack phase it could mean a huge swing.
i dont like the way you talk, i think im not the only one
Going to break this down as I see it (I know this is an old video but it just recently popped up on my suggested list).
Camel - I agree with this. Even though back then there were not so many cards so there were more people holding the Desert card. This forced either the opponent to kill Camel before the attack or to suffer a large attack. Only way this would work in ones advantage is band with one other creature and play instants to pump up the pair.
Juju Bubble - This card can actually work. Many old combinations allowed for the use of cards like this. Such as play this card, use ability, play another card, sacrifice this card, "when a card enters the graveyard from play..." affect takes place to trigger something big. But it is rare, and forces you to have at least 10% of your deck based on this one card.
#10 - One with nothing - I actually use to use this card a lot. Not sure the name of cards for the combination but I use to use it to discard my hand, gain life equal either creatures or sorceries or something else. And let us not forget the possible you set up the next card on the stack to be a card that says something like "bring all creatures from your graveyard to the battlefield" and you have an enchantment (or something) on the field that allows you to draw a card. Yes still really hard to set up, but so very easy to work with. Plus with this type of set up, instead of making a certain amount of cards built around this combination, you could just have this floating in your deck waiting to take place if need be.
#9 - Cephalid Snitch - I just out right agree. To weak of an effect to be sacrificing a creature that cost more than it should.
#8 - Break Open - Ignoring the modern day goods of morph/megamor, this card is pretty decent. Back then there were a lot more "Destroy (color) creature)" or "Destroy non-black non-colorless creature", well turning the card over allows you to do so. Just saying, I understand what you pointing out, but this card does have beneficial use (back then), now a days it is to risky to flip someone else's creature.
#7 - Balduvian Shaman - I FREAKING LOVE THIS CARD. With a solid set of combinations of white cards you want to change the wording for you force your opponent to try and kill this card first. I have used this card with a white, blue and red haste enchantment deck. Changing white cards to how I wanted it, red keeping speed (haste) and defense and blue having some sort of return card allowing the "cumulative upkeep" to be reset to 0. And costing 1 blue, with my Sand Silos, early building of mana then spending it all at once, I could use this card/combo multiple times in a single turn. (this deck had animate wall and rolling stones... so much fun)
#6 - Scornful Egotist - WTF! I never even heard of that card. BURN IT BURN THE IDEA OF IT. Bad just Bad.
(going to watch part two now -- sorry but reposting this half on the next video too)
Scornful egotist is great with puca's mischief
For me this list turned into: top 10 cards I now must defeat my opponents with.
The scornful egotist is designed for it's high mana cost you can play early in game with the morphing ability. Scourge had some high manacost based cards like Rush of Knowledge, Torrent of Fire,.. So basically I don't think he's that bad.
Glenn Van Rompaey Yup, exactly. It actually kind of irks me whenever someone includes the egotist on their top worst lists since it was designed solely to take advantage of that scourge mechanic.
Glenn Van Rompaey I agree I think it might hit some other "mana cost matters" type situations even for other sets, like that red damage spell that digs via scry then does damage based on mana cost ..as an example
Came back from over a year such a underrated video I love it
I know I'm a little late to the party on this video but omg I couldn't stop laughing. Dude you are the best. Since I've found your videos I've been binge watching them. I've laughed, I've cried, shouted in anger and joy. You are awesome, keep it up.
Banding is literally my favorite mechanic.
Is this good?
2 Belligerent Sliver
2 Blur Sliver
4 Bonesplitter Sliver
14 Mountain
4 Blade Sliver
2 Striking Sliver
2 Battering Sliver
2 Fury Sliver
10 Island
2 Thorncaster Sliver
2 Galerider Sliver
2 Anticipate
2 Control Magic
2 Curiosity
2 Dream Coat
2 Essence Leak
2 Active Volcano
2 Circle of Flame
It's a R/B sliver/strategy deck and I want opinions (e.g. is it worth to buy?).
Am I late in replying? The deck is worthless
Scornful Egotist, while kind of bad in other plays, was practically depended on for a Parallel Thoughts + Rush of Knowledge combo. Instant 7 of your best cards into your hand. Fun deck to play.
Hey now, One With Nothing is like getting a massive speed-up to my time to combo off in my EDH Esper-Barren Glory deck.
Every now and then, I come back to this playset of worst cards ever because it's one of the most hilarious things on YT ;D
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I understand that the card is bad, but you should know what the plan of the card was; Scourge heavily revolves around permanent's converted mana cost, like "draw cards equal to the highest converted mana cost among permanents", or many other effects.
The reason you would play Scournful Egotist is because you can get it into play via Morph for only 4 mana total. Meaning you can have a "converted mana cost 8" - permanent as early as turn 4, which can have some good effects, despite the card itself not doing anything other than being in play and pretending to cost a ton of mana.
Wedge Wedge Wedge, Scourge was the Cares about mana cost set. You Can Draw 8 Cards off of Scornful Egotist if you have rush of Knowledge,
You can Discard him to Blast of Genious for 8 Damage
You can reveal him with Eratic Explosion or Kaboom! and deal 8 Damage
Also Riddle of Lightning
or My favorite use, Sacrifice him to a Homarid Spawning bed and make 8 1/1 camarid tokens. AFTER you rush of knowledge off of him.
There are 6 cards in Scourge designed to be played in Scornful Egotist decks: Accelerated Mutation, Cabal Conditioning, Dispersal Shield, Reward the Faithful, Rush of Knowledge, and Torrent of Fire.
Sorrow's Path. It's got to be in the next 5.
Back in the day, I bought about 6 boxes of The Dark. I got many copies of this hemorrhoid-inducing butt bomb. I...tried to get it to work in decks.
I still have the nightmares. Please, TheManaSource , don't make me relive those memories.
Scornful egotist was an attempt at combos for converted mana cost. It with rush of knowledge drew you 8 cards for 5 mana. Both cards are common as well so this was easy and powerful in limited
Dear "one with nothing" join the Cult of Rakdos, I hear they have hellbent over there, have fun being an amazing card that shouldn't have been on this list :D
Need way more of this series! bring it back!
Wedge I'm not even done watching 30 seconds of this video and I love it already. (-:
There was a strategy for Scornful Egotist, but I forget what it was. The impossibly high casting cost was to fuel another card in the set.
Morbid Curiosity maybe? sacrifice it, draw 8 cards.
clash may also play it.
Pretty good, man! I'd like to see another list like this.
If you're dry for ideas: Cards with the best flavor text, coolest abilities and weirdest/most surreal art.
Or.. Best Banding cards.
Huehuehuehue
Scornful egotist was meant to be used in junction with the cards in the set the revolve around "The highest converted mana cost amongst creatures you control".
The idea was to sneak it out and have a CMC of 8 on board, but you still paid 4 for a 1/1 so... yeah....
One with nothing is an AMAZING card! Hellbent, Dredge, Delve... counters to a lot of the red spells that do more for the cards in your hand, oh, and madness, and a good way to stop effects like balace, so that if you have the most cards in hand, in reaction, you cast it and now everyone draws way less.
They first printed "Desert" way back in the day.
"Pay eight mana to make a 2/2 a 1/1 but.... but... it... I don't know just print it." - The R&D team for the most premium card game in the known universe.
Pay 1 mana to face up
But why.
Because you've forgotten what it was?
Because it'll make you feel better somehow?
Because you've taped a picture of a cat to the front that'll put you in a positive match about losing the match?
Why is there no morph effect?
Fugitive Wizard exists only to mess with the heads of your opponents. They'll be thinking you are going to face him up and he'll be something good but you never will which will worry them! I run one copy of him in my blue/red morph deck. It's funny to see players waste good cards destroying your morphed fugitive wizard because they think he might be something else!
Look up Rush of Knowledge, all will be clear.
Converted Mana Cost was the theme of that set, that card was a house in draft, flip up your egotist and rush of knowledge and draw 8 cards gg you win.
Alan Nash But its always Willbender!
Scornful Egotist pairs off nicely with Rush of Knowledge and Dispersal Shield, provided you paid the morph cost. It's not going to win any tournaments but it made kids at my lunch table cry back when Scourge was in standard.
Quite possibly the most hilarious MS I have witnessed. I think someone needs to give Wedge a hug.
OdeToBlue I could really use one.
TheManaSource (''')(^.^)(''')
2/2
im am uncertain if i watched every frame of this video wandering over my screen since midway through the cards i desperatly started looking for hard things to throw my head against.. these - lets call them "cards" make me sangry (ha, get it? sad + angry = sa.. nevermind)
I acknowledge the pain and effort you went through making this video, in that regard thank you. ('t was a good laugh :D)
*hands over a bit of the faith in magic left over to wedge* take this, man!
Mike L Thanks so much!
One with nothing has some good uses in certain decks. For example, I play commander against a player who plays nekusaur and winds of change. For each card in your hand, shuffle it into your deck and draw that many cards. Then nekusaur deals 1 damage for each card that you drew. Having to draw 0 cards means taking 0 damage.
Losing pro-black is useful for a mono black poison deck. I also play against someone who does this.
I can use break open with another card that lets me look at face down cards to reveal a powerful creature, then play altered ego or a combo act of treason sacrifice.
Scornful egotist can be used as bait for a break open.
All I can say about the shaman is it's a good 1 drop for blue players in commander, where you can't have duplicate cards
Scornful Egotist was made because the set had a 'CMC matters' theme, and the idea was to be able to bet an 8 CMC creature on the field by only paying 4 mana for it (or less if you could cheat it face up)
Scornful Egotist is one of my favourite creatures... it's so unique in what it does. It matters for cards that care about converted mana costs, and you can get an 8 CMC card on the board for just three mana with the Morph mechanic.
What cards care about CMC of creatures you have in play? Well... maybe none? But one day... one day the Egotist will rise and you will all regret ignoring him
EDIT: I read the rest of these comments and you guys are being mean to Wedge about including the Egotist. Just wanted to clarify I'm just kidding because some of you are legit jerks.
The very list: interesting
Your sad attempts at humor: not so much
Still a fine video-
scronful egotist was a limited card that turned on cards that cared about converted mana cost, for example there was a red card that did damage to target creature equal to the highest converted mana cost among permanents you control. Egotist was a morph card that had its place in its block.
The plan with Scounful Egotist was that you would use IN LIMITED this card to "abuse" some cards where casting cost matters... in that set, in limited a few times that worked.
Thanks to Madness, One with Nothing is now playable
Cast Scornful Egotist for 3 colorless. Next turn flip it for 1 blue and tap 1 green to cast Mockery of Nature (6/5 when cast destroy target artifact or enchantment). Or instead cast Wretched Gryff (3/4 flying draw a card when cast) in your pauper deck. :)
"The only strategy it could be good in" Clearly you need to do a bit more research. To add to what others have said, there was also a Barren Glory deck that used One With nothing to empty your hand for the final win condition.
Just because you haven't seen or were around for some fo these decks (or smart enough to see how they could be useful) does not make these cards bad.
-Well, Camel's stats are worse than Benalish Hero. But I think Desert's might have been a big deal when they came out. I mean, there where not many other non-standard lands around back then, so playing 4 Deserts was probably common. Also, Banding is a good ability.
-Juju Bubble was a way to get life for red and blue decks. There are not many alternatives. It makes half the life points of Stream of Life, but it can be used several times.
-One with Nothing was probably for combos, even if I can not think of any. Madness maybe? I think there is a Knight that needs a convenient way to get creatures into the graveyard.
-I can not think of any use for Cephalid Snitch. If it was "A creature uses protection from blue", maybe?
-Maybe Break open was to stop the opponent from using his morph abilities? But yes, most of the time it would be better to just kill that thing with Shock.
-Balduvian Shaman lets you use Circles of Protection or something like that without having dead cards in you deck. Also, 1/1 for (B) is acceptable.
-Scournful Egoist is clearly for cards that count mana costs, like Energy Tap.
swamp, one with nothing, 3 basking rootwallas, dread return, and any creature guarantees that you can get any creature on TURN 1. I would advise getting griselbrand for this combo
Also, the old morph art is way cooler than the current one. Sure, we get a giant glowing ball of dragon-shaped fire, but back then they had bald, shelled spider things with stuff inside of them. Much more scary army of morphs.
Scornful egotist was good in limited and was fun in casual. Scourge was a set built on big converted mana cost cards. I used to love playing egotist turn 2 as a morph in my green bluIe deck then turn 3 having counter spell mana plus bird or land to flip it. Then turn 4I could draw 8 cards if I needed more cards with rush of knowledge. Honestly I really like the card.
this was halarious, cant wait for part 2!
I just thought of a use for break open..EDH when you combo with a friend :3
About Scornful Egoist:
In Scourge Set, designers made a cycle of cards that works on Converted Mana Cost (like Dragon's Aura Cycle, Rush of Knowledge, Dispersal Shield ecc.). I saw a guy get synergies by that piece of garbage
The fun of this series is in the progression of his frustration/despair/defeat. Best host ever in terms of MTG.
Sorry, I only play Standard, but I could see Cephalid Snitch being good as a sideboard to make sure your black removal spells go through protection spells (gods willing, feat of strength). But Im assuming stuff like that isnt important in legacy (would be a cool card vs UW heroic in standard as abzan or sultai or UB).
Im also assuming the sacrifice can be played as an instant.
Wedge, how did you manage to make this without quiting? Those cards are sooooo bad it's not even funny! Great vid as always!