Bobby Fischer outwits psychologist in 10 moves
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2023
- Featured is the instructive 10-move chess game between Bobby Fischer and Dr. Reuben Fine from a blitz event held in New York, 1963. The opening is a Philidor Defense, where Fischer places an emphasis on kingside development to quickly exert pressure on black. The game takes a turn for the worst when the psychologist, Dr. Reuben Fine, does not appreciate all the tactical possibilities on his most vulnerable square, f7. “I don’t believe in psychology. I believe in good moves.” -Bobby Fischer
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I'm really a chess beginner but, by watching the finer points of the GMs, and, with your clear and straighforward explanations, I *REALLY* appreciate the games and moves.
Thank you!
You’re welcome 👍
2:25 I can’t see why this required the loss of Fisher’s queen. Can he not sac the knight or bishop, and recap with the other?
Edit: I just noticed the rook on h8 staring at the queen. I’m not deleting so others can see this too
Sometimes it's better to think before you speak.
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2:31 is the timestamp you are looking for, not 2:25.
@@chinmayaprakash No I wanted the beginning of the sequence
My first impression while going through this thumbnail was, "well it's 10 move game, how many things can i take away at most?" But you shocked me jerry😂. You never fail to impress❤❤
Fine was actually known for being a good tactical player. The other game they played at this event was a very interesting win by Fine.
Yes, and water is wet
Thanks for the subtitles, much appreciated!
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Great stuff as usual.
To Bobby is still the best. Makes zero difference if his opponent is a psychiatrist or psychologist.
Bobby is the mad priest of Chess.
9:27 Hehe I see what you did there 🤣
Bobby Fischer bragging about not believing in psychology hits a little different when you know how his life went after 1963 though
Great object lesson in not deifying people just cause they’re gifted in any specific way
The quote is misleadingly represented here -- likely the original context of the quote is tongue in cheek regarding over the board psychological warfare, not the academic field of this particular opponent.
In any case, categorizing Fischer's politically dissident views as a psychiatric crisis is simply a way to avoid confronting them intellectually. I don't think he was as mentally ill as is commonly believed.
@@abee127dontcha know? If someone disagrees with someone politically they must be deranged
When you are at that level, you are always vunerable with insanity.
The only difference between genius and insanity is that genius has its limits.
And how does it hit different?
You have non point sorry.
Let me give you an analogy: let's imagine fisher didn't believe homeopathy cures cancer, and that fisher died of cancer.
It would not hit different that fisher died of cancer.
The fact he became paranoid doesn't invalidate his position about weather or not pychotherapy works or not.
It's very nice of you Jerry, sharing your great chess knowledge! A beautiful instructive game altogether!
Excellent commentary
Thank you
Reuben Fine was a strict Freudian as well as a really strong chess player.
A brilliant man.
Great as always, I really liked the "technical notes" at the end :)
Super instructive, thanks again Jerry!
Getting home to a brand new ChessNetwork video. Doesn't get any better :)
"Fine!" said Ruben after move 10.
*Reuben
Great technical notes, thanks. Most instructional!
Thanks Ryan 👍
Dang, awesome tactical game, loved the variations you showed! Impressive to me for the psychologist to realize that he lost after the final bishop move too
Fisher moves are like are like arrows leaving the bow.
you could almost feel the excitement Fischer felt after that rook move~!! thanks Jerry another great upload as usual..
You're gifted reading between the lines, Thanks Jerry !!!!!!!!
Hey, thank you for all the content that you put out, I really enjoy your channel
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nice commentary thank you
you are the best teacher of chess on youtube by far
Thank you for your breakdown, analysis and alternatives. You have inspired me to be a better Chess player.
Wow. I thought from the thumbnail that this was going to be just Fisher pulling some kind of Scholars Mate or something equally drab against a random patzer!
A “thing or two“? I took a thing or 5, or 6, away from this!
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Reuben Fine was an excellent player. It's a total clickbait to say "Bobby Fischer destroys psychologist" It'd be like saying "Floyd Mayweather knocks out rapper" after fighting KSI
Great channel man 💪🏻👍🏼
Thank you 👍
Thank you is not enough haha 😂 its like changing a rook for a pawn 🤣
That was fine thanks
Bobby likes his snippers....
Thank you, Jerry. I think Ruben Fine authored some chess books as well.
Fischer shook the world with his inspired tactics. May God bless his soul.
Fischer & that whole time era is so nostalgic, luv it. I took lessons for awhile once with Asa Hoffmann just to be in the atmosphere of old timers that knew & played him.
No matter who you are, “you win some and you lose some”.
Only if you’re Fischer you see with more clarity
Ein Geniestreich von Bobby Fischer. Was soll man über ihn noch sagen. Er ist für mich neben meinem Favoriten Garry Kasparov, das beste was der Schachsport je hervor gebracht hat. Aber das ist nur meine persönliche Meinung, da niemand die Frage wer der allerbeste war, je objektiv beantworten kann.
a great ein by fischer, this game reminds me of Morphy. each move a new piece directly into the attack. the first time a piece moves for the second time it is Ng5 which wins the game. thanks Jerry.
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Wow, I have a lot of respect for Reuben Fine. I've enjoyed his "Ideas Behind the Chess Openings. Study his endgame treatise, a huge book and a necessity to understand endgames. I guess before the Magnus effect, there was the Fischer effect.
Fine co-won the AVRO tournament in 1938 (sharing with Keres), with a strong field including Alekhine, Capablanca, Reshevsky, Euwe and Botvinnick. Then WW II happened and afterward he wasn't a serious player, focusing instead on psychology and academia.
Did you think I wouldn't notice? That was Leela playing wearing a Bobby Fischer mask
thx Jerry 😊
OG chess YTer.
A shame people like him don't get all the attention instead of crazy people who just shout as loud as they can.
Bobby Fischer seem like a very strong player
defenders get deflected. what an intelligent comment, it reminded me of the screens we see in a lot of team sports (football, basketball), just like chess is a team sport if you consider each one of the pieces part of a team
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As a hater of detours I have to say I find your detours enlightening. I will watch this video 3 or 4 times. Oh.... and.... not complain.
I'm starting to think this Bobby Fischer guy is pretty good
he had a good few years, yeah
7:44 - Black thinks he's Fine :D
Brutal
Best to this day
He believes in the good moves.
the title is so hilarious to me because its pretty well known that bobby was not sane. I'd like to imagine this game was played right after Rueben tried diagnosing him with every illness in the book
In my point of view, philidor defense which black side has adopted in this game is not quite solid to face a great attacker like bobby fisher. But it is a nice game & overwhelming victory.
Yeah idk why people call it solid. Its quite passive and suseptible to attack
Hi Jerry!
8:45 I don't see where Fine would lose the exchange; there's no way to take the knight. He would just lose the rook outright, which is sufficient reason to rersign against Fischer, and he ia sunk within a couple moves anyway.
Right. Fischer sac-d the bishop on f7 and won a rook for his troubles. After knight or queen takes rook, fischer would have lost a bishop for a rook a pawn and an attack, as Yasser Seirawan would put it
Fisher keeps the knight but he's already down a bishop so it's only an exchange (and a pawn)
Hey Jerry!
Alright. So after rook takes Bishop and Queen pins rook, why not play Knight to d5?
Nxf7, Kxf7
exd5,
White is up the exchange and a pawn
Fisher is so scary
Hi Jerry.
Bobby Fischer was the greatest player of all time. Today we live in the era of the engine. If any Super Grandmaster of today went back to play Fischer, they wouldn't stand a chance.
Agreed.
hi jerry
One technical note is to identify, despite how fortified black looks, their light squares had little defense
He could of blocked the queen with the black knight on f6 to d5
d5 was covered from move 1 by the e4 pawn
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One of the continuations was wrong. At 2:32 You went with Qd2. It should be Bd2.
Are you sure?
In that variation not only white loses a pawn but even gives an extra tempo to black for developing rook
What'd Bobby Fischer say if resurrected to talk about Hans, Magnus, Hikaru, Wesley So, Garry, Sergey Karjakin, Alireza, et al?
Based on a 2001 interview (p1w4Rr-Vd), I think of:
8 parts
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This'd be on 2022Oct21 at 08:30am GMT+8 (80% of Bobby's radio interviews were in the Philippines), 6 hours after 'My lawsuit speaks for itself.'
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Part1
Mercado:
We have for today one of our friends we used to interview every now and then but was dead for the last 14 and a half years. We have 1972 WCC & honourary 0th WFRCC Bobby Fischer. E’s here right now and would like to give some thoughts on Hans Niemann's lawsuit against Magnus Carlsen, ches***m and I think Hikaru Nakamura too, right? In fact, right now, Bobby, good evening. It’s morning right here.
Fischer:
'Yeah, how are you doing - sure Pablo. Yes, well, this is all wonderful news. It’s time for' f Magnus Carlsen to get h head kicked in. 'It’s time to finish off' Magnus Carlsen once and for all. 'This just shows you that what goes around comes around, even for' Magnus Carlsen. 'That is what has happened' this morning.
Mercado:
'You are happy at what happened?'
Fischer:
'Yes, I applaud the act. Look. Nobody gets' Magnus Carlsen & FIDE have been cheating for years. Robbing & cheating. Nobody gave a s. 'Now it’s coming back.' F Magnus Carlsen. I wanna see Magnus Carlsen found liable & banned.
Mercado:
Heh heh. All right. Magnus Carlsen is a WCC, how could…
Fischer:
Well, apparently e's not as much of a WC as everybody thought.
Wesley So,
-my favourite player and compatriot,
-your former compatriot and
-the most talented classical player currently
-and thus my successor
had become inaugural WFRCC by winning all these games. Wesley So had no classical losses in that whole tournament, and Magnus Carlsen had no wins in the finals. That was like my double 6-0-0 in the 1971 candidates, which was also a pure knockout, and the inaugural WFRCC finals, Pablo. Probably hundreds of players had competed for that. How is it possible “the great Magnus Carlsen”, the successor of Garry Kasparov didn’t get a single win against Wesley So, MY successor?
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Part2
Mercado:
Yeah, that’s what people had been asking in the US and here in the Philippines. Considering that Magnus was and still is the WCC, wouldn’t he be able to beat Wesley So once…
Fischer:
'What I'm really hoping for now, Pablo', is some kind of scenario where
-FIDE & ches***m will be taken over by Andrii Baryshpolets & Thibault Duplessis
-they’ll get rid of all the classical regular chess tournaments,
-ban Hikaru Nakamura from twitch,
-sanction Garry Kasparov & Magnus Carlsen and you know,
-Garry Kasparov will admit the Anatoly Karpov games were pre-arranged and apologize to Judit Polgar, Viswanathan Anand & Alexei Shirov,
-Magnus Carlsen will apologize to Alexandra Kosteniuk, Alireza Firouzja, Daniel Naroditsky & Ian Nepomniachtchi.
'I’m hoping for a totally new world.'
Mercado:
Really?
Fischer:
Yeah. How many hundreds or thousands of players did Magnus Carlsen cheat while streaming? Justifying it w/ the most ridiculous excuse that e was drunk. When they were still money tournaments.
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Part3
Fischer:
Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & FIDE are based on lies & theft.
They cheated & robbed
-Alexandra Kosteniuk
-Alireza Firouzja
-Daniel Naroditsky
-Judit Polgar
-Levon Aronian
-Anatoly Karpov
-Sergey Karjakin
-Fabiano Caruana
-Ian Nepomniachtchi
-Viswanathan Anand
-Alexei Shirov
Almost all of the superGMs. Had these rapid tiebreaks instead of classical Fischer random or classical armageddon w/ auction and let Magnus Carlsen & Garry Kasparov cheat.
Am I right?
Mercado:
'Oo.' (Tagalog for 'Yes.')
Fischer:
'That's the history of' Magnus Carlsen, 'a despicable' player.
Part4
Mercado:
[Laughing] 'So, what do you think’s going to happen in the next 24 hours, then?'
Fischer:
Well, Magnus Carlsen is bellowing. E’s told what to say, of course, by FIDE, Garry Kasparov and h lawyers.
Magnus Carlsen & FIDE just will not do what they have to do.
FIDE has to say
-"we’re sorry",
-"our whole tournament format has been wrong for the last several decades",
-"we'll start having classical Fischer random - and we won't force both colours of the same setup",
-"we'll sanction Magnus Carlsen & Garry Kasparov for cheating",
and so on.
Magnus Carlsen has to say
-"I’m sorry",
-"I've been cheating players for the last decade",
-"I'm a TALENTLESS patzer",
-"I don't deserve to be the main FIDE WC anymore than Sergey Karjakin, Fabiano Caruana, Ian Nepomniachtchi or Wesley So"
and so on.
You see? And e’s not going to admit that. No. E’s going to say
-“This cheater”,
-“This cowardly lawsuit will be dismissed.”
I expect soon that Sergey Karjakin will launch a parallel pure Fischer Random federation, where Magnus Carlsen will still be, hundreds of feet underneath - heh - Wesley So & Ian Nepomniachtchi and will be saying, “This dastardly chess variant of Bobby Fischer will never take off!” He’ll just constantly talk about “this cheater Hans Niemann”.
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Part5
Fischer:
Magnus Carlsen, Garry Kasparov & FIDE are not going to be reasonable and admit that they're the bad guys, and they've 'always been the bad' guys:
-2013-returning to round robin candidates - Remember who won that? - 50 years after my complaint in 1963
-1987 & 2016 WCCs where Magnus Carlsen & Garry Kasparov beat Sergey Karjakin & Anatoly Karpov despite fewer black wins - assuming no pre-arrangement
-2018 WCC where Magnus Carlsen couldn't beat Fabiano Caruana
-Magnus Carlsen cheated Alexandra Kosteniuk, Alireza Firouzja, Daniel Naroditsky & Ian Nepomniachtchi in 2009-2021
-Hikaru Nakamura cheated Levon Aronian in 2016
-Garry Kasparov cheated Judit Polgar, Viswanathan Anand & Alexei Shirov in 1994-2000
-2021 rapid WCC excluding Fabiano Caruana from the playoff
-2022 WFRCC & CGC disgracing my variant favouring Magnus Carlsen & Hikaru Nakamura over Hans Niemann & Wesley So and don't yet have a women's WFRCC - the inaugural winner could've been Alexandra Kosteniuk
-2022 Candidates banning Sergey Karjakin.
They've always been the bad guys. 'Gens una sumus' is just a load of bull. It's just a cover for the tortious nature of the International Magnus Chess-en Federation.
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Part6
Mercado:
'There are fears, Bobby, that'
-Wesley So might not win 2022 WFRCC because of lower time controls and FIDE won't rename 2022 WFRCC as 2022 inaugural rapid WFRCC,
-Ian Nepomniachtchi might not win 2023 WCC because of the rapid tiebreak threat despite more black wins
-Magnus Carlsen will pre-arrange a loss as a gift to Vincent Keymer for blacklisting Hans Niemann, and
-Carissa Yip, rumoured to be dating Wesley So, might lose 2023 girls WCC similar to Fabiano Caruana in 2021 rapid WCC.
Do you think those are possible?
Fischer:
I think those are possible, 'unfortunately. That’s the big danger': That, Magnus Carlsen & Play Magnus, Hikaru Nakamura, Daniel Rensch & ches***m, Arkady Dvorkovich & FIDE, these lunatic people, are going to take us all with them, you know what I mean?
'This is just the beginning, Pablo.' 'Everybody’s had enough' s from Magnus Carlsen & FIDE.
Mercado:
You think Hans Niemann is 'planning something else'?
Fischer:
Yeah well sure. What about Wesley So & Ian Nepomniachtchi? 'What if they decide to throw in their lot with' Hans Niemann, right?
What about
-Fabiano Caruana
-Sergey Karjakin
-Alexandra Kosteniuk
-Alireza Firouzja
-Daniel Naroditsky
-Judit Polgar
-Viswanathan Anand
-Alexei Shirov
-Levon Aronian?
Part7
Fischer:
It’s time for Magnus Carlsen to eat the s, to humble hself, to withdraw h minions back to Norway and to admit that e's a cheater, baseless accuser, sore loser & thus hypocrite. Otherwise, Magnus Carlsen has to be found liable & banned.
Mercado:
Mmm-hmm.
Fischer:
Look what
Magnus Carlsen did to
-Alexandra Kosteniuk in 2009. Touched 1 rook but moved another.
-Alireza Firouzja in 2019. Muttered causing distraction.
-Ian Nepomniachtchi in 2021. Touched a knight but didn't move it.
Garry Kasparov did to
-Viswanathan Anand in 1995. Slammed a door causing a distraction.
-Judit Polgar in 1994. Let go of a knight but moved it somewhere else.
-Alexei Shirov in 2000. Alexei Shirov won the candidates but couldn't play for the title.
Now to me, the "bullying cheating" Magnus Carlsen & Garry Kasparov did is worse than the "engine cheating" Hans Niemann supposedly did. You know why?
Mercado:
Why?
Fischer:
Pareto principle. Anyone can engine cheat. Almost only world chess champions / top players can bully cheat get away with it. You understand?
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Part8
Mercado:
Yes, I do.
Fischer:
To me that’s worse. Their bullying cheating is worse than Hans' supposed engine cheating.
-'I say death to' Play Magnus, ches***m & FIDE!
-I say ban Magnus Carlsen!
-I saynoto2900 !
-F Magnus Carlsen!
-F Hikaru Nakamura!
-F Arkady Dvorkovich!
-F Daniel Rensch!
-F Garry Kasparov!
Magnus Carlsen & Garry Kasparov are bullying cheaters.
-They pre-arrange their games and gaslight the reporters.
-They're defamatory, tortious, 'criminal, thieving, lying' b()ds.
-Magnus Carlsen made up the b()ds theory. 'There’s not a word of truth to it.'
-'They are the worst liars and' b()ds.
'Now what goes around comes around.' E's getting it back, finally. Praise God, and 'hallelujah. This is a wonderful day.' F Magnus Carlsen. Cry, you crybaby! W()e, you b()d! 'Now your time is coming.'
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P.S.
Please help get American Bobby Fischer's successor American Wesley So on American Lex Fridman's podcast.
See:
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P.P.S.
Real interview:
Pablo Mercado: So what is your advice to the Filipino chess players?
Bobby Fischer: My advice is to give up chess and take up Fischer Random.
- 2004Oct11, 15 years before Wesley So became the inaugural WFRCC in CLASSICAL time controls.
Source:
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@@nicbentulan it's cool that they give you internet access in the mental hospital, get well soon
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There's nothing else to do here besides getting well soon
Ay yo cherry. Fawk goin on??
Extremely funny that Fischer didn't believe in psychology. I count that as a ringing endorsement of the field, considering he's also quite famous for some other deeply misguided and even disturbing beliefs lol
Imagine taking that quote literally
Relax mate