Want a greenhouse? Here's the truth about them
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- 3 years with this greenhouse and there are a few things you should know. Especially when it comes to heating greenhouse, cooling greenhouse, building a greenhouse foundation, and most of all growing in a greenhouse in winter.
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The best part of my greenhouse is when it’s cold and windy outside in the daytime, I can go inside and warm up, and that’s about it.
That's exactly what I bought mine for! Where I live we have wind from April through mid August and it drives me nuts....
@@James-ib2kp that's too bad. You could have spinach, lettuce, broccoli, radish and other cool weather crops growing, even if they freeze,as long as u don't cut them , Once they warm up in the day they're fine and provide a lot.
I have a similar set up. A couple additional tips I would mention is to seal all leaks with tape not weather stripping This is in most greenhouse instruction manuals. We use clear packing tape so it’s even unnoticeable. We also came to the same conclusion of thermal mass as a passive way to heat but instead of plain buckets of water we installed stock tanks with fish and created a year round aquaponics garden. This also solves the problem of feeding and watering plans. We now primarily take care of fish and the fish take care of the plants. 🌱
I have a Grandio greenhouse similar to yours. I’m a Master Gardener with my county and what I tell my students who want a greenhouse: you won’t own a greenhouse, it will own you!” I have gone through the very same journey of discovery on how to manage the temperature swings. I am tied to it in ways I didn’t anticipate. I’m checking the temps, I’m opening the doors, I’m closing the doors, I’m checking that plants have not dried out, etc.... I live at. 8,000 ft elevation at the foot of 14,000 ft. peaks in Colorado. We have a lot of wind that sweeps down the valley. We put, same as you, a solid timber foundation secured by rebar stakes driven deep into the ground. We used tie down straps to hold it to the foundation. It has withstood 70 mph wind gusts. Like you, we wanted it to be passive solar but learned the black barrels were not enough to warm it this spring. We had 6” of snow a few days ago & our low temps have been in the upper 30’s. So we just got a diesel powered heater that runs off a battery . Looking to hook it up to solar soon. Then our afternoon temps have been in the 90’s. So we got a aluminized shade cloth (like commercial greenhouses use) and that lowered the temps about 10 degrees. We have 3 auto windows in the roof and a louvered window like yours. So, like I said, “the greenhouse owns you!”
@@janetthornton7909 master Gardner is the most useless title one can get
@@macktonight9511 Good luck with starving.
What about building it into the ground for passive earth temperature regulation?
@@macktonight9511Maybe part of PC police and don't like the word, "Master"? At least the Master admitted to being a slave to the greenhouse structure. Sounds like a healthy grounding to me.
i'm curious what you did for thermal capture? do you have thermal mass beneath your greenhouse? or maybe water barrels to catch the winter sun but shaded during the summer sun? should help regulate temperatures for you.
Ive worked in the plastic industry for 25 years. Poly carb vs glass isnt the issue. It’s the thickness of the poly carb panels. Most homeowner greenhouses are 3-4mm thick. The professional ones are 8-10mm. All green houses require ventilation usually in the form of a fan bringing fresh air in and vents or fans exhausting air out. A single pain glass greenhouse isn’t going to retain heat any better. Also today’s “plastic” has much greater weather ability than 20 years ago. The term plastic is very broad. And all plastics are not equal.
@@TheTrtlrvr2 bless you
Exactly! I have a cheapy Amazon greenhouse and the first thing I saw was how thin the polycarbinate is. Can you please mention the companies you get the thicker stuff from and best prices to, as I'm on a budget, but this thin stuff doesn't work good enough for me.
@@diyoregonnowtexas9202 Palram offers a thicker version. Not sure what you r budget is but even their cheapest greenhouse is going to cost several times more than the Amazon one.
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I got homemade greenhouse about as big as 2 car garage. It has to have airflow. I. Digging 4 foot down so it stays 50 degrees put 50 gallon barrel of water and paint it black. It holds heat.
I'm in 4b (summers get up to 90+F and winters get to colder than -20F) and got a Costco Yardistry greenhouse last fall. I planned to start my veggie garden plants in it as I was tired of seed starting taking over my house in the late winter & spring. I had experimented with winter sowing for a couple years and figured that a greenhouse would be like a giant winter sowing container. Worked great. I didn't have heating but was able to start all my tomatoes, almost all my peppers, beans, cabbage, onions, louffa, gigande beans, squash, melons - pretty much everything. I started the cold tolerant plants in late March and kept adding things through to mid May. My seedlings were almost as big as the ones they were selling at the greenhouses in my area by the time I was ready to put them out. I did have issues with it over-heating when it got in the 80s and 90s, but I replaced the gable end panels with screen - and since they are at the top of the greenhouse, they let out the hot air easily. I haven't had any plants die from the heat since I made this modification and it still stays really warm inside. I figured that the amount I saved not buying seedlings should pay for the greenhouse in about 12 years. But the sanity I've gained in my house and the beauty it added to the garden have made it totally worth it.
We are like you...... Happy! Not sure what's going on with these other folks, might be they like to just complain?
I do the winter sow jug method with fairly good results. Being that your plants don’t get rained or snowed on do you find that you are watering often? Do you need to harden off your seedlings if grown in a greenhouse?
@@shellyirwin2562 I checked for watering once a day. I only had to water once a day when it was really hot 80/90F. And when it gets that hot, you will either need to leave the door wide open (even with the roof vent), throw a shade cloth over the roof, have a fan going, and/or have some of the panels replaced with screen. Watering needs also depends on what size pots you have things in. I tried to move my plants into bigger pots as soon as possible. I didn't really have to harden off. It cooled down enough at night in the greenhouse that the plants were fine just getting planted out. I did use covers for a bit on some plants once I planted them out. You'll likely want a fan to help the plants build "muscles" against actual wind once planted outside.
@@Sypherz thank you!
I wonder if starting seeds inside of it is key. I put my transplants out there and lost all my peppers. I figured the green house would protect from the chilly nights. Lost everything. I will try and start my seeds in the green house this year instead of inside the house. The heat though is insane. It gets to 160. We need to get a fan still but right now we kept a floor fan in there. So I'm still figuring it out. There is a learning curve. Please comment with any advice. :)
I used a portable garage covered in plastic for a green house. Made a hotbed out of concrete blocks. At the end of the growing season, pull back the soil, throw your debris in the hot bed under your soil. It provides all the heat u need,but tent the bedding plants with another sheet of plastic and increase the capture of heat.
All winter, the zone was increased to a 6.
Each layer of plastic increases another zone+ level.
Amish have been using hotbeds forever. A lot of plants can grow perfectly if the soil temp is increased
We have had a green house for 10 + years. We grow veggies starters. Starters are EXPENSIVE these days. No problem ! No fuss. No frustration.
My main reason for wanting a greenhouse. My climate here every spring is very hostile to plants. Quite windy and cool. It kills many of them.
Thanks for being painfully honest.
Always!
Why not just use a heater and a humidifier
Install a misting system , that will take care of the heat. I’m in Texas and most of the time , we have temperatures above 80, but since I installed the misting system that problem went away ..
Thank you for including your zone. Very helpful.
We bought a one care carport with a steel frame and tarp like covering for $250 on sale from harbor freight. I used it very successfully to keep my bags of soil, pots and supplies in and I had multiple plants in there over the winter. It worked great as a place for seed starters because it was free from wind and rain and frost. The wind is incredible here in zone 8b where we live so this helped a lot but it easily has ripped the side of the house made from tarp. So we bought the clear polycarbonate panels and my husband drilled wood slats in the metal frame and used it to attach the clear panels. This was around $700 for wood and the panels. So for around 1k we have a green house that if nothing more is a nice seed starter, potting shed and wind break for overwintering some of my plants. Just get creative and don’t spend a fortune.
Great, very informative video. Addressed so many real life pros and cons. Super job!!
Glad you liked it
Really helpful for a prospective buyer, considered the same item. It's not really bad mouthing, just assessing and managing expectations, they also make the versions with various glass panels. For me it makes more sense to save/wait a season, getting the wrong item could put people off entirely.
Ventilation at day. And store Containers of water inside the greenhouse that absorb heat during the day and release it at night. Or big Stones. Even moist soil will hold heat and Release it at night
That's what we do
we have 3 greenhouses in western iowa. the only time we do not have crops to sell in late Jan-Feb. By planting cold tolerant crops you can grow longer. We have no supplemental heat.
We cover the top of our 4m x 2.8m greenhouse in 70% shade cloth in summer. Also spent a lot of time on the foundations. They're concrete panels which are insulated on the inside with 100mm foam panels. The floor was excavated down to 300mm and 2 refrigeration panels placed in it. Then 150mm of sand, some geo textile and then a layer of gravel. In the sand layer we've put 20mm Pex pipe for heating. A propane heater with a small flame heats a water tank and a slow flow pump passes the water through the Pex tube. The heat is absorbed by the sand and gently heats the greenhouse day and night in winter. Minimal heat is lost into the ground due to the insulation panels below the sand layer.
Thank you. A great deal of useful and helpful information presented here. I've been considering getting a greenhouse and you've answered questions I have and many questions I hadn't even thought of.
Glad it was helpful!
Your information is golden. I got a similar greenhouse from a friend for free and am just about build the foundation. I may just set it up for seedlings.
its worth growing in for sure.
In my area we have really mild winters until January or February we always have about a 2 week span of ridiculously cold, hard freezing, snow period. If i get my greenhouse through that fee week's im golden
thats awesome!
12v immersion water heaters can be connected to cheap 12v glass solar panels to heat water in barrels during the day.
Gardener from Maple Hill, NC here. Thank you for this video. I have a cheap, all- plastic greenhouse and I know I will need to upgrade in a few years. The more I hear about these prefab greenhouses, the more I'm convinced to take the time to make one myself. Looks like I can build a more secure one that is larger for the same price of a premade kit.
MR. SANDY: I have a greenhouse in Pennsylvania. I appreciate hearing how you do things in your zone. The barrels of water help greatly. I've found using old carpet as weed block is free and more effective than weed guard. It also let's the water through. You can often find old rolls along the street on garbage day. Try it! P.s. Use caution and wear sturdy leather gloves. Old nails and staples. Use a new utility blade to cut to the width you need.
I have a 8x8 palram snap and grow. It is two yrs old. I am 70 yrs old and put it together over 2weeks. I did 95% alone. The foundation took the longest as I had no experience with power tools except a driver. That was CRAZY! But I love my greenhouse. Mostly use it for germinating, seed saving, gardening supplies, space to work on other projects etc. I am in Indiana and this is my second year with winter planting. I do that outside under row covers to extend my season. Thank you for the information.
Good stuff
A friend of mine had a similar smaller greenhouse with the same problems of getting to hot, so he removed a couple panels and replaced them with thin white plant cloth in a frame that set in place of the vinyl panels in the summer. It let it breath and would be a couple of degrees warmer than outside temps. In the winter he just replaced the original panels to hold the heat in. He also put small mirrors around the base in winter to heat it up even more.
Our home is very modern, long and partially buried into a hillside.The bottom floor leads out to the pool and has a "wall" of glass 18 feet long. I've wanted a greenhouse for years until my neighbor had one built. The structure and the costs were astounding (tv, running water, kitchenette, etc) I finally decided against it and last year my seedlings did far better than his. It's as much about soil, water and light as it is a particular place. Good luck on the temp problems.
TV? What plants watch TV?
This is exactly the reason I built a Greenhouse myself using some think timbers and Clear corrugated plastic sheet. Used wooden floor board at the bottom. It works amazing and it's Heavy too, so windy can't blow it.
Also I can make shelf anywhere I want as it's made from timber and easy to drill any screw.
In my channel you can see my Green House at work.
Almost 3 years now, no deterioration at all. No rust, no break.
I am surprised to see I also used a wireless Govee Temp sensor for my greenhouse too. It works amazing.
The sensor is cheap and easy enough to use
My dad built a frame of wood from 2 x 6's and Placed standard storm windows on top and would use a stick to raise them on hotter days. 2- 3 of these setups --- and he had MORE than enough seedlings that grew beautifully.
It's good to use the greenhouse in the summertime to dry herbs, banana , mushrooms..I like to cut up pumpkins and just dry them out. Beans, .. great place to do your starters also..
I pondered getting a G house for a couple of years, didnt do it and u just confirmed my decision - thanks. I did buy some 4' fence palings and made simple square, stackable frames. Initially they were for compost bins but turned into manageable size raised beds. Anyway ... recently I bought some of the half height, polycarb, shower doors from the recycle dump shop and lay them over said frames. Poor mans seed starting G houses :)
I just want to say right off the bat you are a fantastic communicator. You answered every question I have before I make a purchase like this I like the idea that you bad mouth is a little bit but you also included all the positive and that's just to me a straight-up honest review. I'm in zone 8A in South Central Alabama and I'm thinking this might be something I'm interested in because my Winters are just a little bit milder than yours. I'm going to subscribe to your channel cuz I'm interested in the future to see more about your success and failures in your area so that hopefully I don't have to go there. Like I said a great video man you're a fantastic communicator.
Thank you! I think in your area it may do well for you if you have the right expectations
I have a 6x6 version of this one I like it for seedlings in the spring they grow better than a grow light .I put plastic shelves to hold the trays on 3 sides.the rest of the year it holds my garden tools and things .I use it every day
I have this Greenhouse and I have it full of what I winter over. I use a heat lamp at night and its more than enough to keep all My peppers, Geraniums and many other plants alive through the winter. I did get a Shade screen for it and If I could get another one I would in a heartbeat. Thanks for the videos.
If ran electric to it I would be comfortable growing more in the winter
I’ve got the same greenhouse, in full sun it gets to the 170s with 2 panels removed and a solar fan.
I adore my greenhouse! I winter over everything and love that because I don’t have to purchase any in the spring. I have a heater in there for really cold temps.
That is awesome!
So I saw something on a greenhouse in Alaska, where they had black barrels full of water that would collect heat throughout the day, while the sun is on it, then, at night time, the warmth stored in the water is emitted into the greenhouse. Thus regulating somewhat your temperature.
That's what I use
Thank you. 😊 I appreciate your help.
Happy to help!
Mine is specifically used for holding seedlings until after the frost date. It means I have to apply supplemental heating at night, but I only have so much room in the house.
I know the feeling that's why I worked on my footprint inside
Awesome information. Thanks for sharing. You covered every question and concern I had about a greenhouse. I'm also in NC 8a (being near Louisburg, I still question if we're really 7b). You now have another subscriber 😊.
So nice of you
I visited with a commercial Gardner,grows trees. Asked him about sun lamps which is best,,,he said if he could get good sun lamps he would be in a real building,nothing replaces the sun so he is stuck with green houses. In Missouri he still uses sun lamps even in green houses.i do like green houses to start plants early once the frost is over they go out the door to the garden,that is a lot more forgiving than in a green house with mistakes😩
Btw, to counter the huge increase or decrease in temperatures, it pays to put up weather proofing sheet inside the green house. That’s what they do in a professional greenhouse. The sheet comes in certain filtering of UV rays or to counter the cold and hot temperatures. It basically helps to insulate your greenhouse without sacrificing light. It goes from 15% light filtering all the way down to 75% light filtering clothes. It comes in two colors (that I have come across), black one and white one. You would often see in a professional grower greenhouse, black tarp/net structure hanging inside the greenhouse. High number of light filtering clothes are used for tropical plants that prefer semi-shade but needs warmth to thrive. You should look it up. It helps to insulate your greenhouse from extreme temperature gap. Then put up AC or heat for summer and winter. It helps to make the greenhouse larger as well to prevent it from getting very hot or very cold. Hope this helps.
I've weighed out my options. So far the greenhouse works well for what we want to grow during the winter. The next greenhouse we may add a system like that
I built a 10x6 where my old well house was. I had water and electricity already run, so it made sense. Solid foundation, and used landscape timbers to reinforce the walls. Was able to build the shelving and a sprinkler timer system. Yes, used a Solar panel to run the fans.
i have a heater with a thermometer for the winter and have fans for the summer. I use mind all year round.
Just wondering what grow zone you are in. I am in a zone 4b. Wondering if this green house is worth it. Thanks again
Thanks for the informative video! Learned a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing all the deets on this! I appreciate your knowledge and opinions so much 🌱
i live in the frozen north......i just put greenhouse plastic over top in winter that extra layer makes a diff in -20......at night i but very hot water bottles in there to thro off some heat .....then use it to water the next day =-)
Thanks for sharing this good information. We moved here 2 years ago, last year I built a wooden greenhouse for bringing from seed and it was pretty successful for a beginner. Ran out of space now and apart from the 8 external beds I'v built, now been thinking of buying one of these exact items. Thanks for the tips, if I go ahead, I now think I'll need to run power in for heating in the winter. I am in Scotland where we get a lot of rain and mild frosts in winter.
If you end up getting it I hope it works out for you.
Love this, great information. From an almost neighbor
Great info and some clever tricks. I'll definitely be trying the black water bucket one next year. I used synthetic wood recycled plastic for the base of mine. I think it might last longer than wood, even if it's treated.
I am in the process of looking for a greenhouse now. I live in Zone 8b and worried it might get too hot in the summer. This video was very helpful and I am reconsidering my choice to buy one. Thank you!
im in Georgia and have clear polycarbonate panels that are 20 years old, it still gets warm in the green house and the panels are getting cloudy.
You got good life out of them for sure
I have a small walk- in greenhouse. The wind is my issue. I'm in North Central Indiana. Great video....Thank you for all the pros and cons.
Have you tried putting wind breaks around it?
There really isn't a way that I can. I live in a mobile home park. There's only so much space....I tried placing it in different places but the wind gets it...I'm on my 3rd one. Was afraid to put it up last year....Hopefully this spring.
Try those Hurricane straps they really do help and they are cheap
@@TwistedPixie69 Our worst winds come from the west here in Ohio, so I'm planning on keeping my greenhouse on the east side.
I had a polytunnel greenhouse in NC for six years... Went through multiple high winds, near tornadoes, jail, ice, snow, and hurricanes.... Here in Ohio... The wind blows so hard and gusts up, and up, and then switches directions so much that it tears stuff away and trashes anything not tied down tight enough. Watched a for rent sign fly off the neighbors house and sliced off the top of some fancy grasses. 🤭😂🦗
What a great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great tips. We just bought one of these and this was very helpful.
have you considered putting guttering on the greenhouse to give you outside help from watering? ie: gutters go into a rainwater collection barrel, through a screen, then thats attached to a slow drip irrigation system? that might help?
already built in to the greenhouse
@@sandybottomhomestead nice, with gravity fed irrigation too? id set it up but i have a poly tunnel and attaching gutters is not really possible
Trick is to start the seeds indoors on a heat mat, then as soon as they get their first true leaves, then bring them out to the greenhouse.
we do it a bit differently both ways work though
SO helpful! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge :)
Bigger solar fan and shade cloth may help.
Drippers or blumat work well and can be gravity feed
Shade cloth doesnt help much which surprised me
Great video. Thank you so much!
You're very welcome!
I have a 6x8 slab in my back yard that I guess the previous owners had a shed there. It even has plumbing and electricity. Idk if it still works, but it’s there. I can’t decide if I want to put a greenhouse on the slab or not. What I really want it for is starting seeds in so I don’t have to use lights or harden off much.
My summer seeds don't start early enough in my greenhouse
@@sandybottomhomestead I’m in zone 9 so it’s practically always hot
Hope fully it works for you especially if you can raise the temp little bit
I start seedlings in Texas 8b in my current greenhouse which is an old wooden frame type with polycarbonate panels…it doesn’t hold in heat or water! But I use heat lamps and heat mats in Jan/Feb to start seeds. It works marvelously for that but nothing else except storage.
I saw a guy that wrapped the lower part in bubble wrap in winter and hay bails on lower section. I just diy'd 2 bay windows into a greenhouse with solar fans etc. City so also a car alarm LOL! citrus and coffee crop. Big tub of water with fan helps. You could get 4x8 sheets of poly and double skin it add shade cloth in summer? Old school xmas lights in winter can go off invertor on timer I use em for citrus.
Yeah I could but that is way to much effort for me lol
I’m in Melbourne Australia and have one almost identical except the panels are like your roof panels all over. We spent a lot on a secure base so no strap bracing and added the automatic window hinge too. I found it got way too hot as well. We have ours close and tucked in near the house which reduces the light and heat one side and I have intentionally grown climbing plants like beans on the other side for summer shade. I use shade cloth on half also. I’ve decided to put beds in as well instead of the seedling shelving we have and grow summer tropical vegetables like okra, rosella, chilies etc. it was good to keep my tropicals in over the cool months. I have considered painting it with whatever they use on hoop houses on farms or making it more a shade house permanently. Trying the summer plants first.
Kayleen
Hurricane straps? Great idea. I live in Kansas, where the wind always blows.
I was mainly wanting a smaller greenhouse just to start plants so they get the light they need and wind doesn't damage them. I start them indoors in March, but they get too big and I have to take them outside during the day and bring them in at night which is a pain. Some get wind damaged. It's not safe to plant outside till June 1st in Ontario Canada. We can get frost in May and covering plants up and watching for frost warning is a pain. So I wanted a
small greenhouse on my deck so the plants are protected from wind and cool nights, but can get enough light and don't have to be moved twice a day. I was thinking of making a base out of one or two skids on the bottom and making a frame attached to the base. Heavy plastic or clear corrugated sheets would let in light. I water them daily as some soils dry out and don't hold the moisture.
This is our first year with the Palram greenhouse, and I'm liking it too! We got it out in late winter, so I have yet to experience actual winter growing in there, but I have some ideas I'm going to try. First off is a hotbed heating system. There are a few far north growers on YT that make hotbeds from manure with wood chips and/or straw, and are able to grow even when it's below 0°F outside. And then they have compost they can spread out during the warm season. Looks promising to me.
But this summer, I plugged in some cantaloupe, honeydew and bush beans, and man is it a jungle in there right now! With the thick layer of compost I used as the floor, I've barely had to water in there, and we have highs of 85° - 105 pretty much all summer (which means often triple digits in the greenhouse if I didn't have shade cloth up). We've harvested several cantaloupes already, and the honeydew are not far off now! It has gotten a bit TOO wild, though, so I really need to make sure to prune back some of the side shoots before it gets out of control next year. (Zone 8b near Salem, Oregon)
thank u
Glass makes it much more rigid during storms.
I grow my cannabis in a 8x16 hpop house, from cattle panels all summer. Can start early with ends shut then summer ends open up and 2 foot roll up on 1 side with 2 fans and even though it gets over 100 on occasion plants can handle more than you might think. It also keeps the major wind and rain at bay ❤
cannabis grows alot different than veggies. It does pretty good in the heat until it flowers.
@@sandybottomhomestead yes sir and by then the temps are dropping.. :) great channel
You could add shade cloth for the summer and use heat sinks (which you are using) for the winter. There are some good videos from Canadian gardeners on how to add heat for winter growing. Some of the Canadian gardeners are growing some frost tolerant crops in -32 C thru the winter. Some use solid insulation for the north sides of their greenhouse to help keep the cold from coming in. I like the idea of dark slate as walkways or used on the north wall to store heat during the day for release at night.
Shade cloth just takes the edge off.
As a zone 3 person, I find the idea of a greenhouse without a heater completely foreign.
Also, a greenhouse that gets any shade also seems counterproductive.
Insulated glass with enough steel support to keep it from collapsing in a snow storm is definitely the best way to go, but like you said that's thousands of dollars...
I could imagine it sounds foreign to you.
I’m in western mass…I am super excited about this greenhouse but very grateful for your tips and advice and now a tad weary but I bought it so I gotta do it haha wish me luck! I need those hurricane straps tho!
I lived in eastern mass for a while a gardened there. You can extend the season quite a bit if you plan right
@@sandybottomhomestead yaaaa thats the hope! Up here in the Berkshires though the weather is something else. we always get frosts into june now and im sure will even get another snow fall. so i got this greenhouse to start my seeds in as I have no diret sunlight in the cabin or space for lights...my hope was it would be warmer in there than outside but from your video i believe that not to be the case anymore. I guess itll be a trail to see how this goes haha
@@brittanyp5478 I'm in the same bed (Springfield area). I just bought one (haven't arrived) and now I'm doubting the purchase LOL
Hi, thank you for the video.
I just watched another video about a green house. That one was twice as big and with cedar frame and much thicker polycarbonate with the top that opens. That one was $1450 or around that price. You have to of course build it yourself like this one but this was $6-7000?! I think it’s an outrageous price. I can get twice as big as the one shown here or even three times for $7000. Wow…it really pays off to shop around I think.
I liked your idea of putting a fan to suck out the hot air powered by solar. If you get a good solar panel with battery you can recharge, you can store electricity and operate your greenhouse even at night to suck out the air or even put AC on or electric operated fan.
Yeah I could do that but I'm happy knowing my limitations and growing with in the parameters.
I'm thinking the 10 x 12 h vac tape at top seems and screws in panels to braces. And not have a base but dig down about a foot. Just to get my plants out about 40 to 50 days early before planting. As well I'll just buy some plastic shelves also I could run a heater and fan from an outlet on a timer.
My first year on my lot I planted a bunch of fall mustard, turnips, rutabagas, radishes, lettuce, bok choy, etc and here in zone 8a in Louisiana we got down to ZERO with below zero wind chill and it was below freezing for a week. Lost everything. Then it was way too cold in spring for starting normal things we usually grow. I was using my heater until May. Then by June a heat emergency and drought arrived and lasted until October. My greatest success this year was getting my baby 5 inch fig tree to survive and grow several branches. I did manage to grow okra, get one quart of Purple Hull Peas, get mint started from seed, and harvested some cucumbers and a few dozen cherry tomatoes. Various pole bean types did very little...not enough to harvest. Yard Long Asparagus pole beans showed promise though. Armenian Cucumbers did nothing. Bush green beans did nothing. I let a rabbit have them. Red Ripper Peas were a joke and I will never waste my time on those again. I may plant them in a ditch but never in my garden. Nothing will grow where they grew now. Amaranth made no seeds.
I only use a greenhouse in the spring to harden my seedlings for the garden. The rest of the year it's pretty much useless for me.
you should try to grow food in it in the winter.
@@sandybottomhomestead I'm in Canada and not the warm part either. The cost to give it even enough heat to grow anything is prohibitive. You would have to have some kind of earth sheltered greenhouse to even grow lettuce. Much cheaper to buy.
We have similar greenhouse but a couple of metres longer we string up shade cloth over the top to stop it overheating in the day time and also add a couple of black barrels of water and raised garden beds with lots of compost to help keep stablisie the tempetaure over night we grew chilli's over winter and used it to start lots of tomato trays early in winter
Sound like you have the same set up as me
That’s why they made heaters
Nope
Bonjour! Je dirais qu’il y a un point hyper important avant de se procurer une serre en polycarbonate. Vérifiez la qualité de la structure. Ensuite, bien l’ancrer sur un bon cadre de bois et ajouter du silicone autour de tous les panneaux et avec un peu de calfeutrant autour de la porte (genre de petit balai). La porte coulissante est malheureusement fragile, surtout au Québec. Ensuite, il sera toujours temps de modifier certains éléments comme ajouter une ou deux tiges de métal pour solidifier le toit à cause de la neige. Les panneaux seront inévitablement à changer dans 5 ou … 10 ans, tout dépendra de l’épaisseur, de l’installation et de l’emplacement de votre serre (soleil) . Mais l’épaisseur des panneaux et la structure font augmenter le prix mais ça faut la peine, surtout pour la structure! Et dernier conseil, dès que vous voyez un petit problème, il ne faut pas attendre et réparer!
I am re thinking a green house
just understand what you are buying
Good info, I'm in northern NC (close to VA border) we just bought a 10X14 version. Step 1: foundation. So, you are saying that for us folk here in NC the major issue is keeping it cool...good to know. If you have any other advice, I'm all ears!
Check out the greenhouse playlist I have to get started. I am sure Ill be doing more videos about it as it heats up.
Thanks so much for this video! Does anyone know if glass panel greenhouses have the same ‘hotter in the heat’ and ‘colder in the moist cold nights’ issue?
They will be hotter if you don't vent and they will generally hold heat at night better to an extent. They are much better candidates for heaters due to heat retention properties of glass
pop your seeds in paper towels inside, move to 4 inch containers under LED lights inside the house. Use tents if want extra reflected light
when you get to one gallon they go in the greenhouse.
I just use 16 foot cattle panels anchored to a base plate anchored to concrete blocks.
The main goal is to keep the wind and excessive rain off the plants in winter. provide shade in the summer.
decidious tree planted to the south of the greenhouse and a seasonal shade cloth for summer. replace with clear tarp in winter. I just leave the ends open but I don't live in a cold climate and I don't have to worry about snow or wind loading.
16 feet 10 inches long and 10m feet wide. I built it for less than 500 dollars including a stepping stone path to and partly inside the greenhouse.
Easy as pie and I am a shitty carpenter.
i am happy with what i am using right now. there may be a change in the future but I will build it with a wood frame.
I'm looking to do a greenhouse house in Massachusetts. 1 big question. If I put a chair in there. Would it at least be a warmish place to sit in the day?
Yep
Great video! Thanks :) I've lowered my expectations lol. Do you have links to all of the stuff you mentioned (like hurricane straps)?
No I got them from palram
I was curious about those as well…
Just curious... For the heat canisters, would sand hold the heat better than the water?
Possibly I wouldn't want the mess or the cost
I cannot locate the info for your hurricane/storm proofing with the wires. Can someone advise me of the link/info?
just buy a shade cloth and use seasonally.
Not that easy already did it
Have you added any ventilation in the greenhouse? Plants love wind
I talk about it throughout the video
What about (critters) wildlife? Do you have any issues with that?
If I leave the greenhouse open it has happened
Shade cloth
doesnt cool it enough
for your hot water: get 24v solar panels with 24v hot water heater elements. Put the elements into the tanks. Blamo, mega heat store.
Thank you but that's way more than I want to put into it
@@sandybottomhomestead in Canada, you'd do it. :)
Thanks for the video
Could try some concrete block , they also to absorb heat and slow release .
Especially if you were using shelves to start plants.
Whats the complaint, 25 degrees is quite good.
25 make it a bit difficult to grow in winter.
I’m guessing that’s Fahrenheit not Celsius
I keep cacti, and am looking for one of these right now. My whole intent is the ability for me to 100% control all watering, as i have to keep a super close eye on the rain come September. Its an absolute MUST that i cease all watering to my cacti by end of Sept, if not by mid Sept. That gets hard when youre at work 12hrs and theyre left out in the rain. I have so many pots i feel guilty asking my wife to bring them up onto the porch if it starts to rain while im at work. Lmao!! So im looking right now for a decent quality greenhouse. Any suggestions? Anybody?
Oh, and these plants must come in doors during the winter time.
Just found your channel. We’re in Texas 8b and I just bought a Growers Solutions greenhouse. It’s 10x20 and I’m hoping to keep it warm enough in the winter to keep my citrus from freezing on the few nights we have in the winter. Right now I have winter cool crops growing in my raised beds with frost cloth over them (low tunnels). Just wondering if the radiant heat from the barrels is helping? Didn’t sound like it when you were discussing inside outside temps.
Keeps it 5 degrees higher. Makes all the difference in the world for what we grow in it
@@sandybottomhomestead thanks! Sometimes 5 degrees is all I need!
Sandy Bottom in Erwin?
No
How did you attach the greenhouse to a frame on the ground,,, just wondering I ordered one just like yours, thanks
Screws
@YUmMies24 I have had this same greenhouse for just over 10 years. I deal with high winds, hail, snow, and intense heat in summer.
This was my way of connecting greenhouse to the 4 x 4 cedar base:
I drilled holes large enough for 2 foot rebar to fit through. The rebar had large washers welded onto them. They were driven through the bottom frame of the greenhouse, through the 4 x 4s, and into the ground. The large washers welded to the rebar holds the greenhouse frame down.
Do find it get a little too hot?
I do
Is there any reason you did not caulk all the seams instead of just the base? I've heard it's helpful for keeping it warm in the winter. Pros? Cons? We're in the process of building the same size/type of greenhouse. Curious as to your thoughts.
Caulking the seems would make it less stable. The week points are the panels I'm case of wind the will blow out to save the structure. The building process is in the directions from the manufacturer
I love my greenhouse, but you can lose all of your seed starts in one night if you don't pay close attention to the temperature. Mossy Bottom says to pick a warm place and light it instead of picking a light place and warming it. It's easier. This is a great video. You covered everything!
Thank you very much for this great information