I had to record this after working Overtime so it's a bit more rambly and out there srry just wanted to get some thoughts out based on what I've seen online with people glazing the game a ton (maybe far too much). Considering making a much more In-depth and structured look on the similarities and differences kind of like this but more concise so to the point and not as rambly if there's any interest so if this comment gets like 50 likes I'll do that since I'm not sure how much interest there would be in exploring this comparison more so you could maybe utilize a more structured video as propaganda to try and convince some on the fence friends to play with you. or get your dog on board to play some rivals sometimes or something
Hey I stopped playing OW before 2 was released, and playing Rivals reignited my passion for OW. I think Rivals will be the gateway drug for relapsing OW players.
Thank goodness for this. Two cakes is the best way to describe it. There's no need for one game to kill the other, just play whatever's good and enjoy whatever's good
If it wasn't Marvel, I'd probably play it. I'm genuinely so burnt out on the franchise from all the movies and general superhero content. Hope people have fun with it, but it is not my cup of tea.
Yeah my only problem with rivals was that overwatch was a hero game that wasn't marvel or dc for once and thtas one of the main reasons i like it, although ill still give it a try
Glad I’m not the only one feeling it and I was a Marvel fan starting in the mid-70’s. I have a big issue with the game from both an art perspective and a user ergonomics perspective. Both are well below the Blizzard polish, and it has an eerie disconnected feel when you do things, I don’t “feel” my action in game like I do in OW. I don’t begrudge people who like it, and it has some novel things like doppelgängers that Blizz seems terrified to try… this opens the doors. The maps also are very odd, they don’t read well, and you get stuck a lot on small stuff you wouldn’t expect.
I've never been interested in marvel or dc, so it honestly doesn't feel like it has been marketed to my interests which is fine don't get me wrong but when you don't have that excitement to play your favourite superhero you don't feel intrigued to even try. However maybe that's just me (and hearing it being called an overwatch killer over and over is also not enough to change my mind)
Thank you for such a positive video. I really love Overwatch and I actually have fun playing it because I'm not overly competitive, If I lose I lose and if I win I win! I believ Marvel Rivals is pretty much the same when it comes to that, but it also feels brand new despite being basically Overwatch.
I'm still personally gonna play both, to me it reminds me of the whole overwatch will kill TF2 and overwatch copied TF2 debates, both communities now exist and it'll give people more options
I played marvel rivals today and had WAY more fun than I thought I would. I completely agree with you. I'll play overwatch again when I feel like it (I make ow content tho but that doesn't count for me)
i don't really care about marvel, or superhero movies in general, do you think someone who isn't interested in the theme of the game would still like it? obviously the majority of people who play this game are probably marvel fans, where as i couldn't care less. but i am still interested in playing a new game. what do you think?
Thanks for the beginning. Gaming isnt a relationship or commitment , its a hobby. Its like the console war phenomnom (which im sure is in part id perpetuated by companies to sell products). More options in gaming is a good. But the best games should respect your time. The internet being part of the internet is a blessing and a curse.
I think the feelings of a game becoming a "committed relationship" is the rise of battle passes and cosmetics Of course it feels like a committed relationship, alot of people put money into it. Leaving overwatch means you might miss out on skins. This is especially true for people with full time commitments, jobs, partners, etc.
I don't like these videos where we have to try to persuade people to play Marvel Rivals, if people aren't interested in playing it, then they aren't interested.
I absolutely love what you said here i have definitely reached a point where i play overwatch just to play the game maybe its because it’s been so long , my bf got me into the game and it’s been years now but this is so true and from my opinion marvel rivals is a new game experience it as a new game im so excited to play something new and fresh and i hate new things but the game looks fun in my opinion ( 24:24 )
It’s stupidly fun to be fair, everyone feels OP to play like actual heroes. Team ups are cool too Also in OW I just play reaper I feel like he has no proper counter
Marvel Rivals has a 1 second Que time. Find a character you enjoy and just have fun. I personally can't understand sticking with OW2 like I've seen but I personally don't enjoy the OW cake and this Marvel Rivals cake is delicious
I have some complaints with the game but overall it’s a very fun game. It’s similar to overwatch but I like how it separated itself to be its own thing. My two cents as I played all night are character designs in ow are so much better which helps you know what’s happening in a fight. Visual and sound design that is. A lot of the marvel heroes sound the same when attacking you and idk I find it hard to see where damage is coming from. I may just get used to it but as a day 1 ow player that is something they have nailed.
Not knocking it, but it needs some work. First, the art - needs to be cleaner, all I’ll say. Maps are not intuitive, you literally get no sense of expected space, even Junkertowns map does this better. The health bars… a ruler? Really? Game optimizations…. Wild swings in fps and fairly poor to start. Lastly, style of power representations is inconsistent. Good game but lacks polish.
This video gave me diabetes!!! (I already had yiddies) Ngl I was skeptical of Rivals bc it looks like paladins but it’s okay based off first impressions. Then again I’m a widow abuser lmfao and everyone is new so they got no movement.
First off the two cakes argument isnt valid, maybe they can coexist but ow already struggles with queue times, if it loses majority of a role inna rank, its gonna toss the game into chaos and the ow devs are straight up not good enough at balance to balance open queue so theres a high likelihood that ow either needs to go open queue which will suck as they went to open queue because theyre to bad at balance, or theyll stick with role queue and than queue times go waaaay up which results in less players wanting to play which increases queue times which makes player's not want to play and so on until it dies. Second, ow is not competitive, its got a totally out of wack skill curve which results in players who are competitive being more commonly paired against bad players onna consistent hero that allows them to still go toe to toe with the competitive player, the easier the options you give some players, the more competitive a game will get in its lower ranks, thats why qp is competitive now, that genji that would normally hit maybe plat or dimaond is now stuck in high gold having 1 game where someone plays the easy brain dead heros that counter him without any skill like moira, so he has a rough time and the next game he goes against just soft counters at most so he utterly stomps them because going from needing to deal with an auto aim hero with better survivability and movement than you that hits through your only way to defend yourself to playing into players actually playing heros that require some skill into you, is gonna result in you as the genji utterly stomping gold lobbies like a smurf one game and than getting called out for not being good enough the next, and every high skill hero in the game has a moira like doomfist into sombra/brig or echo into half the hitscan since hitscan in ow get to be better than the projectiles at all times, its a total balance nightmare and ive played paladins, battleborn, tf2 and now marvel rivels, and non of these games have these issues, this is specifically an ow issue, so do not call it competitive just because it had the blizzard money and ip to make it more known than the others, because thats all ow has had going for it given how abysmal the dev team is sadly.
interestingly i feel like almost every point mentioned in the beginning part of the vid about similar hero shooters to OW could be answered by TF2… i’m curious why that wasn’t mentioned lol. the only thing i could understand is that it isn’t live service anymore if that’s important to someone, since Valve pretty much left it to die. but it’s worth noting that the skill ceilings are like thousands of hours high per class so you’ll not run out of things to do. the movement is S tier, there’s an active competitive scene, balance is pretty damn good considering its age, and so on. i really highly recommend for anyone who may want an occasional alternative to OW.
Love the video... though that random paladins slander does make me nervous to sub as it kinda hypocritical since you said two cakes yada yada and paladins technically is similar to overwatch so discrediting it because you don't think it has an identity irks me as a paladins player 😞
I had to record this after working Overtime so it's a bit more rambly and out there srry just wanted to get some thoughts out based on what I've seen online with people glazing the game a ton (maybe far too much). Considering making a much more In-depth and structured look on the similarities and differences kind of like this but more concise so to the point and not as rambly if there's any interest so if this comment gets like 50 likes I'll do that since I'm not sure how much interest there would be in exploring this comparison more so you could maybe utilize a more structured video as propaganda to try and convince some on the fence friends to play with you. or get your dog on board to play some rivals sometimes or something
Very nice video, keep up the content on both games it’ll be great since rivals content isn’t so common just yet!
Hey I stopped playing OW before 2 was released, and playing Rivals reignited my passion for OW. I think Rivals will be the gateway drug for relapsing OW players.
Thank goodness for this. Two cakes is the best way to describe it. There's no need for one game to kill the other, just play whatever's good and enjoy whatever's good
Exactly I'm not complaining I am playing both and having fun XD
If it wasn't Marvel, I'd probably play it. I'm genuinely so burnt out on the franchise from all the movies and general superhero content. Hope people have fun with it, but it is not my cup of tea.
I urge you to give it a shot, it’s not the marvel cinematic universe it’s its own thing and feels surprisingly fresh
Yeah my only problem with rivals was that overwatch was a hero game that wasn't marvel or dc for once and thtas one of the main reasons i like it, although ill still give it a try
Same for me but I had the most fun playing a hero shooter in a long time last night.
Glad I’m not the only one feeling it and I was a Marvel fan starting in the mid-70’s. I have a big issue with the game from both an art perspective and a user ergonomics perspective. Both are well below the Blizzard polish, and it has an eerie disconnected feel when you do things, I don’t “feel” my action in game like I do in OW. I don’t begrudge people who like it, and it has some novel things like doppelgängers that Blizz seems terrified to try… this opens the doors. The maps also are very odd, they don’t read well, and you get stuck a lot on small stuff you wouldn’t expect.
I've never been interested in marvel or dc, so it honestly doesn't feel like it has been marketed to my interests which is fine don't get me wrong but when you don't have that excitement to play your favourite superhero you don't feel intrigued to even try. However maybe that's just me (and hearing it being called an overwatch killer over and over is also not enough to change my mind)
Thank you for such a positive video.
I really love Overwatch and I actually have fun playing it because I'm not overly competitive, If I lose I lose and if I win I win!
I believ Marvel Rivals is pretty much the same when it comes to that, but it also feels brand new despite being basically Overwatch.
I'm still personally gonna play both, to me it reminds me of the whole overwatch will kill TF2 and overwatch copied TF2 debates, both communities now exist and it'll give people more options
I will play Rivals, if it is not fun, I will just keep playing OW, if it is fun, then I will probably split my time between the two.
I litterally just hope Rivals creates incentive for Blizzard to improve their game. But knowing them they will seethe about it
As someone who played the Closed Beta, the only problem i ever had was the loading between scenes but thats been fixed so I recommend you try it
I played marvel rivals today and had WAY more fun than I thought I would. I completely agree with you. I'll play overwatch again when I feel like it (I make ow content tho but that doesn't count for me)
i don't really care about marvel, or superhero movies in general, do you think someone who isn't interested in the theme of the game would still like it? obviously the majority of people who play this game are probably marvel fans, where as i couldn't care less. but i am still interested in playing a new game. what do you think?
Game is good as a game so think you can enjoy it, just think of it as a hero shooter with way too much lore behind the chararlcters
The Reaper and Hazard gameplay was a treat to watch 😂
Thanks for the beginning. Gaming isnt a relationship or commitment , its a hobby. Its like the console war phenomnom (which im sure is in part id perpetuated by companies to sell products). More options in gaming is a good. But the best games should respect your time. The internet being part of the internet is a blessing and a curse.
I think the feelings of a game becoming a "committed relationship" is the rise of battle passes and cosmetics
Of course it feels like a committed relationship, alot of people put money into it.
Leaving overwatch means you might miss out on skins. This is especially true for people with full time commitments, jobs, partners, etc.
I'm so excited to play it
I don't like these videos where we have to try to persuade people to play Marvel Rivals, if people aren't interested in playing it, then they aren't interested.
I absolutely love what you said here i have definitely reached a point where i play overwatch just to play the game maybe its because it’s been so long , my bf got me into the game and it’s been years now but this is so true and from my opinion marvel rivals is a new game experience it as a new game im so excited to play something new and fresh and i hate new things but the game looks fun in my opinion ( 24:24 )
It’s stupidly fun to be fair, everyone feels OP to play like actual heroes. Team ups are cool too
Also in OW I just play reaper I feel like he has no proper counter
Marvel Rivals has a 1 second Que time. Find a character you enjoy and just have fun. I personally can't understand sticking with OW2 like I've seen but I personally don't enjoy the OW cake and this Marvel Rivals cake is delicious
It actually released today at 7 pm if u live in NA Eastern standard time
I have some complaints with the game but overall it’s a very fun game. It’s similar to overwatch but I like how it separated itself to be its own thing. My two cents as I played all night are character designs in ow are so much better which helps you know what’s happening in a fight. Visual and sound design that is. A lot of the marvel heroes sound the same when attacking you and idk I find it hard to see where damage is coming from. I may just get used to it but as a day 1 ow player that is something they have nailed.
Not knocking it, but it needs some work. First, the art - needs to be cleaner, all I’ll say. Maps are not intuitive, you literally get no sense of expected space, even Junkertowns map does this better. The health bars… a ruler? Really? Game optimizations…. Wild swings in fps and fairly poor to start. Lastly, style of power representations is inconsistent. Good game but lacks polish.
Just try it: No... its marvel nuf said
that’s a pretty sad outlook lol but do you ig
how many times did bro say cake this video 😭😭
gonna be real. I am ignoring it because I refuse to give my money to Disney (or at least try, I know they own a ton of crap)
NetEase is basically EA and Comcast in one.
I'm so sad that Finals didn't go the hero shooter route.. it could've been leaps better than Marvel Rivals
I actually had fun playing a game now I can play something that's not overwatch
My bf was hyped. His pc is not powerful enough so OW wins for him
This video gave me diabetes!!! (I already had yiddies)
Ngl I was skeptical of Rivals bc it looks like paladins but it’s okay based off first impressions. Then again I’m a widow abuser lmfao and everyone is new so they got no movement.
Meh ill wait for ms marvel quake or medusa before i pick it up maybe even a nico minoru
First off the two cakes argument isnt valid, maybe they can coexist but ow already struggles with queue times, if it loses majority of a role inna rank, its gonna toss the game into chaos and the ow devs are straight up not good enough at balance to balance open queue so theres a high likelihood that ow either needs to go open queue which will suck as they went to open queue because theyre to bad at balance, or theyll stick with role queue and than queue times go waaaay up which results in less players wanting to play which increases queue times which makes player's not want to play and so on until it dies.
Second, ow is not competitive, its got a totally out of wack skill curve which results in players who are competitive being more commonly paired against bad players onna consistent hero that allows them to still go toe to toe with the competitive player, the easier the options you give some players, the more competitive a game will get in its lower ranks, thats why qp is competitive now, that genji that would normally hit maybe plat or dimaond is now stuck in high gold having 1 game where someone plays the easy brain dead heros that counter him without any skill like moira, so he has a rough time and the next game he goes against just soft counters at most so he utterly stomps them because going from needing to deal with an auto aim hero with better survivability and movement than you that hits through your only way to defend yourself to playing into players actually playing heros that require some skill into you, is gonna result in you as the genji utterly stomping gold lobbies like a smurf one game and than getting called out for not being good enough the next, and every high skill hero in the game has a moira like doomfist into sombra/brig or echo into half the hitscan since hitscan in ow get to be better than the projectiles at all times, its a total balance nightmare and ive played paladins, battleborn, tf2 and now marvel rivels, and non of these games have these issues, this is specifically an ow issue, so do not call it competitive just because it had the blizzard money and ip to make it more known than the others, because thats all ow has had going for it given how abysmal the dev team is sadly.
interestingly i feel like almost every point mentioned in the beginning part of the vid about similar hero shooters to OW could be answered by TF2… i’m curious why that wasn’t mentioned lol.
the only thing i could understand is that it isn’t live service anymore if that’s important to someone, since Valve pretty much left it to die. but it’s worth noting that the skill ceilings are like thousands of hours high per class so you’ll not run out of things to do.
the movement is S tier, there’s an active competitive scene, balance is pretty damn good considering its age, and so on. i really highly recommend for anyone who may want an occasional alternative to OW.
Love the video... though that random paladins slander does make me nervous to sub as it kinda hypocritical since you said two cakes yada yada and paladins technically is similar to overwatch so discrediting it because you don't think it has an identity irks me as a paladins player 😞
I’m enjoying overwatch, not a fan of marvels third person shooter. Oh well hopefully it pulls the 6v6 players away
Was Overwatch ever fun alone?
Still won't come in PS4 it's a free game for only 500 Dollars
The ps4 is over 11 years old, most companies are not gonna be making games for it anymore
HELL NO
I just don't like Marvel lmfao
Too bad its not for ps4
The ps4 is over 11 years old, most companies are not gonna be making games for it anymore
its kinda mid and just uninspired. didnt feel fresh at all.
I already uninstall Overwatch. Good riddance to that piece of trash game ruined by incompetent and moronic game devs.
Is it on console? No? Then no... ow is on literally everything :/
It is
How does bro not its on console stupid people
Bro did zero research before hating what a bozo
LMAO tf u talking about
It's LITERALLY on console brother, what are you blabbering about? 😂
t w o c a k e s