Thanks so much Andrew for posting this absolute classic. No false praise when I say this is one of the best biographical dramas ever made - all the nuances are there.
I just wanted to say this is so incredibly well written. People always seem to be leaving comments under shows from this era commenting on how much better written and more "charming" they are compared to "modern rubbish" to the point that it loses all meaning. As someone who isn't old enough to be nostalgic for this era, I wanted to tell you that I think this the real thing. A genuinely well researched portrayal of a historical writer that perfectly sums up the way his life influenced his work and vice versa, and manages to perfectly capture, without being sensationalist or unsympathetic, the underlying sinisterness to his work and his life, the uneasy hinterland between the worlds of Francis Hodgson Burnett and Oscar Wilde and the whole decadent, care free Fin de Siecle atmosphere moving into the brutality of World War I. And all of this bubbling under the surface. I hope you believe me when I say this is one of the greatest period drams that the BBC has ever produced.
Hi Mr. Birkin, I am a film and screenwriting student and I want to say that I really would prefer if we were taught to write screenplays like this than the shock value ones that we are supposed to write. This is wonderful and thank you for posting it.
Thank you, Mr Birkin. I still treasure the signed copy of your book I purchased in J.M. Barrie’s birthplace. What an extraordinary screenplay. No Disney sentimentality or Johny Depp in a completely inaccurate depiction. Other than his work, I think this is the closest we’ll get to seeing and understanding the real man. Thank you from Edinburgh!
What a kind message - it came at a low ebb (denuding the Amazon, Ukraine etc) and gave a much needed morale boost, not to say ego, although the real ego of the piece belongs to Barrie, courtesy of Ian Holm…. thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@laurenticwave Thank you, Mr Birkin. Yes, these past couple of years have been trying and now the situation in the Ukraine. However, I’m wishing you the best. Please, take care and stay safe.
Hello Andrew, Is there a soundtrack list for all 3 parts of this? I would love to be able to listen to them in my spare time. Absolutely adore these films, thank you so much!
Thank you, Andrew. I bought this as a DVD box set recently, so no need to watch all of this. Love it! Is Peter Pan still lying dead at the bottom of Black Lake?
The great Ian Holm could play a chapters as wonderfully-damaged as Barrie. The production helps us to understand his romanticization of boys, possible Barrie attempt to fix the brother who died in amber. Childhood is a magical time if lived as nature intended. Nice to see this thoughtful production; it succeeds in capturing the "innocence" of the author of Peter Pan. Still, the association with the forever child did harm the Davies boys as they aged.
Thanks for your thoughts - I love your description of Barrie as being “wonderfully-damaged.” However I think Nico would have profoundly disagreed with your view that Barrie’s association with the Davies boys harmed them in any real sense. For this I am perhaps to blame, given the implication I gave in the TV Lost Boys that Barrie was in some way responsible for Michael’s drowning. This was the impression given me by Lord Boothby - a thoroughly disreputable character in his own right! - who it seems was jealous of Rupert Buxton (the undergraduate who drowned with Michael). In fact Barrie greatly approved of Buxton and encouraged the relationship - a fact clarified in correspondence between Barrie and Buxton‘s mother that came to light long after I wrote the lost boys. If you’re interested, check out “my “Barrie website, jmbarrie.co.uk. As for Peter, it’s true that he suffered from the association with his namesake in “that terrible masterpiece” while at Eton, but his suicide in 1960 was primarily the result of a natural tendency towards melancholy, shell-shock from the first world war, alcohol, the discovery that his wife - and therefore their sons - had Huntington’s disease - and finally, strapped for cash. Do feel free to open this up for further discussion on the Barrie website forum, and thanks again for your penetrating thoughts.
This is so wonderful ❤️ have you seen dreamchild where Ian Holm plays Lewis Carroll? It's not like this because here is so many facts than dreamchild movie
I loved this documentary film. I would love to see the whole of the Great ideas of the 20th century about Peter Pan with you. Also I tryed to contact you which seems damn near impossible. K would love to talk to you about Peter Pan.
Hello Mister Birkin, thank you very much for posting it! I have a question about J. M. Barrie please. Did he have a child? On the french Wikipédia page, I see a Jane Elisabeth Barrie. Thank you very much! If it's false, I will correct it
Yes indeed, but not in any sexual sense. How do I know? According to his adopted son Nico Llewelyn Davies, "I don't believe Uncle Jim ever experienced what one might call a stirring in the undergrowth for anyone: man, woman, child or dog."
@@Whocares158 I don't know, I think I can differentiate who is a good intentioned person toward my kids from who is a POS , but I'm not sure all the people have the same morals than me , or simply the same insight as me, not because I'm think I'm better if not because it's human nature. I've seen a video in which a woman let a stranger alone with her daughter in his van just with the excuse he was going to buy for her a dress for some kind of party, and he achieve to left the mother in the store with her baby and walk to his van with her teenage daughter, thanks God the police intervene fast and stop him and yes it result that he was obviously a registered paedo. Who in his right mind would do this you would ask to yourself, but this is the trick my dear friend the groomers and paedos are not hostile pieces of shait who have a sign in their forehead , normally are people in the family or in the very close intimate circle and they are very good manipulators. There have been cases in which the victims were basically describing the abuse commited on them without realising the whole drama till the doctors explain to her/him what was the rality and not the beatiful story implanted in his/her mind. We know of course of the Stockholm Syndrome, but being as simple as Iam I can't see how a person whose existence has benefitted from another person can speak against the latter.
@@laurenticwave Hi, Mr. Birkin. His adopted son, Peter, said he got rid of his letters to Michael because they were “too much”. Some of the lines from Little White Bird were also alarming (and telling). I suppose it’s unclear what actually happened, but the clues don’t point towards something bright, in my opinion.
@@coldwhitespring5004 Judging from your confuses yapping it would seem that only men can be perpetrators. What have they done to you? Hope you heal someday.
Thanks so much Andrew for posting this absolute classic. No false praise when I say this is one of the best biographical dramas ever made - all the nuances are there.
I just wanted to say this is so incredibly well written. People always seem to be leaving comments under shows from this era commenting on how much better written and more "charming" they are compared to "modern rubbish" to the point that it loses all meaning. As someone who isn't old enough to be nostalgic for this era, I wanted to tell you that I think this the real thing. A genuinely well researched portrayal of a historical writer that perfectly sums up the way his life influenced his work and vice versa, and manages to perfectly capture, without being sensationalist or unsympathetic, the underlying sinisterness to his work and his life, the uneasy hinterland between the worlds of Francis Hodgson Burnett and Oscar Wilde and the whole decadent, care free Fin de Siecle atmosphere moving into the brutality of World War I. And all of this bubbling under the surface. I hope you believe me when I say this is one of the greatest period drams that the BBC has ever produced.
Hi Mr. Birkin,
I am a film and screenwriting student and I want to say that I really would prefer if we were taught to write screenplays like this than the shock value ones that we are supposed to write. This is wonderful and thank you for posting it.
Thank you for making this available here.
Thank you, Mr Birkin. I still treasure the signed copy of your book I purchased in J.M. Barrie’s birthplace. What an extraordinary screenplay. No Disney sentimentality or Johny Depp in a completely inaccurate depiction. Other than his work, I think this is the closest we’ll get to seeing and understanding the real man. Thank you from Edinburgh!
What a kind message - it came at a low ebb (denuding the Amazon, Ukraine etc) and gave a much needed morale boost, not to say ego, although the real ego of the piece belongs to Barrie, courtesy of Ian Holm…. thanks for taking the time to comment.
@@laurenticwave Thank you, Mr Birkin. Yes, these past couple of years have been trying and now the situation in the Ukraine. However, I’m wishing you the best. Please, take care and stay safe.
So appreciate being able to see this. thank you.
RIP to the wonderful Ian Holm 😔
He died on the same day as J.M. Barrie
@@somebodysomeone453 Yes he did!
Thank you for posting this!
Hello Andrew,
Is there a soundtrack list for all 3 parts of this?
I would love to be able to listen to them in my spare time.
Absolutely adore these films, thank you so much!
Thank you, Andrew. I bought this as a DVD box set recently, so no need to watch all of this. Love it!
Is Peter Pan still lying dead at the bottom of Black Lake?
The great Ian Holm could play a chapters as wonderfully-damaged as Barrie. The production helps us to understand his romanticization of boys, possible Barrie attempt to fix the brother who died in amber. Childhood is a magical time if lived as nature intended. Nice to see this thoughtful production; it succeeds in capturing the "innocence" of the author of Peter Pan. Still, the association with the forever child did harm the Davies boys as they aged.
Thanks for your thoughts - I love your description of Barrie as being “wonderfully-damaged.”
However I think Nico would have profoundly disagreed with your view that Barrie’s association with the Davies boys harmed them in any real sense.
For this I am perhaps to blame, given the implication I gave in the TV Lost Boys that Barrie was in some way responsible for Michael’s drowning. This was the impression given me by Lord Boothby - a thoroughly disreputable character in his own right! - who it seems was jealous of Rupert Buxton (the undergraduate who drowned with Michael). In fact Barrie greatly approved of Buxton and encouraged the relationship - a fact clarified in correspondence between Barrie and Buxton‘s mother that came to light long after I wrote the lost boys. If you’re interested, check out “my “Barrie website, jmbarrie.co.uk.
As for Peter, it’s true that he suffered from the association with his namesake in “that terrible masterpiece” while at Eton, but his suicide in 1960 was primarily the result of a natural tendency towards melancholy, shell-shock from the first world war, alcohol, the discovery that his wife - and therefore their sons - had Huntington’s disease - and finally, strapped for cash.
Do feel free to open this up for further discussion on the Barrie website forum, and thanks again for your penetrating thoughts.
Innocent please the man was disgusting
@@loripotter9858 then why were you watching this series if your disgusted by him?
This is so wonderful ❤️ have you seen dreamchild where Ian Holm plays Lewis Carroll? It's not like this because here is so many facts than dreamchild movie
Ian Holm's son is also in this.
The book is just as good, if not better.
I loved this documentary film.
I would love to see the whole of the Great ideas of the 20th century about Peter Pan with you.
Also I tryed to contact you which seems damn near impossible. K would love to talk to you about Peter Pan.
Hello Mister Birkin, thank you very much for posting it! I have a question about J. M. Barrie please. Did he have a child? On the french Wikipédia page, I see a Jane Elisabeth Barrie. Thank you very much! If it's false, I will correct it
Barrie had no children of his own, though was godfather to many.
@@laurenticwave Thank you. I will edit the french Wikipédia page.
Hello mister Birkin, it's Sylvia8 from Belgium. I can't go on your site anymore. Is it because you're working on it? Thank you
Yes, but it's now back up and running ...
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he liked young boys 😏
Yes indeed, but not in any sexual sense. How do I know? According to his adopted son Nico Llewelyn Davies, "I don't believe Uncle Jim ever experienced what one might call a stirring in the undergrowth for anyone: man, woman, child or dog."
I believe he was Aromantic Asexual.
Meaning he had no romantic attraction.
No sexual attraction.
He loved his wife though.
@@laurenticwave stop lying you know good damn well he was a Pedo
@@Whocares158 I don't know, I think I can differentiate who is a good intentioned person toward my kids from who is a POS , but I'm not sure all the people have the same morals than me , or simply the same insight as me, not because I'm think I'm better if not because it's human nature.
I've seen a video in which a woman let a stranger alone with her daughter in his van just with the excuse he was going to buy for her a dress for some kind of party, and he achieve to left the mother in the store with her baby and walk to his van with her teenage daughter, thanks God the police intervene fast and stop him and yes it result that he was obviously a registered paedo. Who in his right mind would do this you would ask to yourself, but this is the trick my dear friend the groomers and paedos are not hostile pieces of shait who have a sign in their forehead , normally are people in the family or in the very close intimate circle and they are very good manipulators. There have been cases in which the victims were basically describing the abuse commited on them without realising the whole drama till the doctors explain to her/him what was the rality and not the beatiful story implanted in his/her mind.
We know of course of the Stockholm Syndrome, but being as simple as Iam I can't see how a person whose existence has benefitted from another person can speak against the latter.
@@laurenticwave Hi, Mr. Birkin. His adopted son, Peter, said he got rid of his letters to Michael because they were “too much”. Some of the lines from Little White Bird were also alarming (and telling). I suppose it’s unclear what actually happened, but the clues don’t point towards something bright, in my opinion.
"Complex relationship", yeah, a pedo relationship.
The projection is too much in this.
@@candide1065 What, I'm projecting? That would be odd as I'm a straight woman.
@@coldwhitespring5004 And straight women can't be creeps or pdf-files?
@@coldwhitespring5004 Judging from your confuses yapping it would seem that only men can be perpetrators. What have they done to you? Hope you heal someday.
@@coldwhitespring5004 And straight women can't be into kids?