If you want to go fast ,shorten the variater bus for 3 to 5 mm , it will pull very fast and the topspeed is also higher. Try it and show the video. 👍 I did it always and it is very fast, alot off difference.
When you do this, you will have belt slippage due to the weaker spring tension, that’s the reason for slower acceleration. The scooter will not reach the top speed and engine will cut out at slower speed.
Bu Honda madelleri için satışta kısa ama daha sert yaylar mevcut. Yumuşak yayın kısa olması negatif etki verirken yayın daha sert olması itkiyi arttırarak ivme kazanır. Yay uzunluğu değil yay sertliği arttırılmalı.
Cái lò xo trụ không nhửng nó có chức năng làm căng dây coro mà nó còn quyết định puly sau ra nhanh hay chậm,do vậy kĩ sư họ đả tes và tín toán trước mình để cho ra thông số lực nén phù hợp nhất cho xe đó trước khi cái xe chưa có mặt trên thị trường. Nếu thay đổi kích thước lò xo nghỉa là thay đổi lực nén củng là thay đổi mommen xoắn,lò xo càng dài đề ba càng mạnh,tải nặng, tăng tốc nhanh,gào máy hao xăng. Càng cắt ngắn thì đề ba càng yếu,tăng tốc chậm,nhưng máy sẻ đầm hơn ít hao xăng hơn. Nếu thường xuyên chở 2 đi đường dốc thì nên đi lò xo dài,nếu đi 1 mình thì nên đi lò xo ngắn để tiết kiệm xăng hơn
lowering the tension/rpm of the spring gives you more acceleration but less on long strech. better to buy wider fan belt give more power from torchdrive to bell.
я не могу вас понять, что вы говорите, но в этом видео я описываю, что вы не улучшаете скорость с этого момента от центрифуги - это сбой в pcx, теперь я загружал более широкий ремень или что-то еще, что не имеет зазора друг с другом Спасибо за ваши Коментарии
if the balls are heavier the bike starts with hidifficulty the spring as soft as it is also starts with difficulty if the balls are light in the bike it starts very quickly if the balls are heavy it is difficult to start the bike so the other is the spring with the balls they make the difference you have to find the combination.
very good question, the hard spring makes a better start than the normal one, in the hard spring you have much more problems for example if you change the belt at 15000 km it should be changed at 9000 km if it hasn't also the engine has cut plastics and many other problems the only good which is off to a better start.
@@MBPATENTS hmmm but they have the same effect when you use a lighter variator weights? Based on my experience it looks like using a harder spring it feels like you use a lighter variator weights. I just don't know what is the difference between using a harder spring and using a lighter variator weights
@@arvinjohnroallos4821câu hỏi rất hay,nhưng giửa thay đổi lực nén lò xo sẻ có kết quả khác biệt với thay đổi trọng lượng bi văng rất nhiều. Vì sao? Vì trọng lượng bi văng và lực lò xo phải cân bằng nhau để nó giử dây coro ở mức căng vừa đủ với tải trọng của xe,không quá dùng củng không quá căng. Nếu bạn giử nguyên lực nén lò xo mà tăng trọng lượng bi văng thì áp lực lên dây coro càng lớn ảnh hưởng độ bền của dây coro. Còn nếu bạn giử nguyên trọng lượng bi văng mà giảm lực ép lò xo thì áp lực lên dây coro không tăng mà nó chỉ giúp puly sau mở nhanh hơn mà thôi. Thay đổi mổi chi tiết trong đó đều có kết quả khác nhau chứ không hề giống nhau được
Hi cransa to see a good difference in consumption more economically, I mean you have to remove the stops to increase the step of the centrifugal with the variator and the balls were 5 grams higher than the factory cylinder
I believe that you in particular have tried it, I have a great question and curiosity to see the video, if you have it, upload it, I'm waiting to see your video of course
Merhaba 2012 Honda Fizy 125 Sahibiyim Benim Kalkış iyi ama motorum 80 Km hıza ulaştığı zaman bitiyor gitmiyor Sizin bir öneriniz varmı üzerindeki Bagalar Kayış orijinal
bu aynı zamanda bobinlerinizin zayıf olmasından da kaynaklanabilir bujiye bakmak için akımları ölçmeniz gerekir ve ayrıca benzine ve benzine ne olduğunu bilmiyorum pek düşünmüyorum ama daha fazlası bence akımlar çünkü bu sorunu yaşadım
is there a way to get another 10 km from the centrifugal well everything will work marginally it's nothing for sure then it's the way it is and I just did a test because I saw that many people do it and they see improvement nothing there is no improvement the improvement is a very distant stop and you put the variator's shim further in to go to 138km, an easy solution
You don't need to be a genius, just knowing the mechanics is enough. It is logical that when the spring weakens, the force on the belt will decrease. Engineers specifically calculate the spring stiffness so that the pressure of the cones on the belt is optimal. If this parameter is weakened, belt slippage and increased wear will occur.
You are right, the mechanics know about the tight spring, but in , where do you ever see, the softer the spring, the more kilometers the belt or the engine belt wears out, did you know this and the harder it is, there is damage all over the machine you will have vibrations in the engine with more revolutions in the drum in many lights until the plastics creak
with what you tell me, I can't understand anything. If I don't hear it myself or see it somewhere, make a video and send it to Facebook somewhere, the email
criterion i cut it to see how a spring works which is soft and harder that means harder is worse for all things on the scooter thank you very much just experimenting here and thought I'd share it on youtube!!
If you want to go fast ,shorten the variater bus for 3 to 5 mm , it will pull very fast and the topspeed is also higher. Try it and show the video. 👍 I did it always and it is very fast, alot off difference.
O que é (variater)
Whats a variator bus?
@@cliveswabs9365 just google it ,and you now.
@@cliveswabs9365 variator bush/bosh some calls it
Ok ill try this .im buying Polini kit anyway just in case
When you do this, you will have belt slippage due to the weaker spring tension, that’s the reason for slower acceleration. The scooter will not reach the top speed and engine will cut out at slower speed.
Hi AffyNoX clearly this is an experiment showing how the spring works i didn't do anything more.
Clearly we aren't Chinese
Bu Honda madelleri için satışta kısa ama daha sert yaylar mevcut. Yumuşak yayın kısa olması negatif etki verirken yayın daha sert olması itkiyi arttırarak ivme kazanır. Yay uzunluğu değil yay sertliği arttırılmalı.
bj c est de la bidouille sans interet
Thank you lot learn, so you need to get the right rpm for the perfect timeing and the perfect speed and the perfect take out
Hi hot 😉😉
Cái lò xo trụ không nhửng nó có chức năng làm căng dây coro mà nó còn quyết định puly sau ra nhanh hay chậm,do vậy kĩ sư họ đả tes và tín toán trước mình để cho ra thông số lực nén phù hợp nhất cho xe đó trước khi cái xe chưa có mặt trên thị trường.
Nếu thay đổi kích thước lò xo nghỉa là thay đổi lực nén củng là thay đổi mommen xoắn,lò xo càng dài đề ba càng mạnh,tải nặng, tăng tốc nhanh,gào máy hao xăng.
Càng cắt ngắn thì đề ba càng yếu,tăng tốc chậm,nhưng máy sẻ đầm hơn ít hao xăng hơn.
Nếu thường xuyên chở 2 đi đường dốc thì nên đi lò xo dài,nếu đi 1 mình thì nên đi lò xo ngắn để tiết kiệm xăng hơn
ý kiến rất đúng, làm tốt lắm, xin chúc mừng may mắn là có một người hiểu tôi, bạn thật tuyệt vời!!!
lowering the tension/rpm of the spring gives you more acceleration but less on long strech. better to buy wider fan belt give more power from torchdrive to bell.
я не могу вас понять, что вы говорите, но в этом видео я описываю, что вы не улучшаете скорость с этого момента от центрифуги - это сбой в pcx, теперь я загружал более широкий ремень или что-то еще, что не имеет зазора друг с другом Спасибо за ваши Коментарии
Thanks for you testing, it helps to understand how it's working
Hi Didar you thanks!! 😉
Thank you for the very interesting experience
Hi riadhch Thank you for your nice comments and your attention!!!!
You well try for the best I also try but I fail loose spring when I accelerate it will belt slip
Thank you i learned a lot !
Hi Mathieu you thinks!!!
Tankz sir continew your blog sir tankz so much
Thank you very much ❤️
Merhaba arka disk sistemini hangi model bir motorun parçalarını kullanarak disk çevirdin söylermisin rica etsem
What happen if you put stiff spring with heavier roller variator maybe 1 g or 2 gr heavier?
if the balls are heavier the bike starts with hidifficulty the spring as soft as it is also starts with difficulty if the balls are light in the bike it starts very quickly if the balls are heavy it is difficult to start the bike so the other is the spring with the balls they make the difference you have to find the combination.
What is the difference between stiffer center spring vs. Lighter variator weights? What are there advantages or disadvantages?
very good question, the hard spring makes a better start than the normal one, in the hard spring you have much more problems for example if you change the belt at 15000 km it should be changed at 9000 km if it hasn't also the engine has cut plastics and many other problems the only good which is off to a better start.
@@MBPATENTS hmmm but they have the same effect when you use a lighter variator weights? Based on my experience it looks like using a harder spring it feels like you use a lighter variator weights. I just don't know what is the difference between using a harder spring and using a lighter variator weights
@@arvinjohnroallos4821 if one this is one the other
What about milage drop?
@@arvinjohnroallos4821câu hỏi rất hay,nhưng giửa thay đổi lực nén lò xo sẻ có kết quả khác biệt với thay đổi trọng lượng bi văng rất nhiều.
Vì sao? Vì trọng lượng bi văng và lực lò xo phải cân bằng nhau để nó giử dây coro ở mức căng vừa đủ với tải trọng của xe,không quá dùng củng không quá căng.
Nếu bạn giử nguyên lực nén lò xo mà tăng trọng lượng bi văng thì áp lực lên dây coro càng lớn ảnh hưởng độ bền của dây coro.
Còn nếu bạn giử nguyên trọng lượng bi văng mà giảm lực ép lò xo thì áp lực lên dây coro không tăng mà nó chỉ giúp puly sau mở nhanh hơn mà thôi.
Thay đổi mổi chi tiết trong đó đều có kết quả khác nhau chứ không hề giống nhau được
Thanks a lot excellent video not yet seen before,useful🎉
Hi senthil I thank you for your attention!!
Ωραίος ρε παλικαρι!Συνεχισε ετσι!!!!
Για σου Σάκη σε ευχαριστώ!!!
And if I want to reduce consumption, as I do in terms of rollers(lighter, and heavier), springs(harder, softer), belts, etc.
Hi cransa to see a good difference in consumption more economically, I mean you have to remove the stops to increase the step of the centrifugal with the variator and the balls were 5 grams higher than the factory cylinder
@@MBPATENTS OK, thanks.
Witam. Przerabiał ktoś skutera Elyseo 50 cc 2t
Merhaba, bende RKS AROME 125 CC var performans arttırmak istiyorum ne yapmam gerekiyor ?
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Hey.. Next tme try Not to use Spring. Weld it together. Let the Belt at the Top of the Driven pulley. Let see what happen..😅
I believe that you in particular have tried it, I have a great question and curiosity to see the video, if you have it, upload it, I'm waiting to see your video of course
on estimate about how strong is that spring in terms of RPM rating?
it's so hard it changes the engine running it's like it was running like i got it from new
Merhaba 2012 Honda Fizy 125 Sahibiyim Benim Kalkış iyi ama motorum 80 Km hıza ulaştığı zaman bitiyor gitmiyor Sizin bir öneriniz varmı üzerindeki Bagalar Kayış orijinal
bu aynı zamanda bobinlerinizin zayıf olmasından da kaynaklanabilir bujiye bakmak için akımları ölçmeniz gerekir ve ayrıca benzine ve benzine ne olduğunu bilmiyorum pek düşünmüyorum ama daha fazlası bence akımlar çünkü bu sorunu yaşadım
Great informative content 🤝👍👍👍❣️very unique thnku for the effort in this video🙋🏻♂️
Hi Great thank you very much!!!!!
Why do these scooters vibrate so much when you rev it while on the center stand... it even moves backwards with you on it??
Hi The
m.ua-cam.com/video/VfwulkdQ1k8/v-deo.html.
the problem starts here dust
❤thank you👌💯🇮🇱
Thanks!!!
Thank you sir i am also doing same thing , but now i tired this centrifugal system
is there a way to get another 10 km from the centrifugal well everything will work marginally it's nothing for sure then it's the way it is and I just did a test because I saw that many people do it and they see improvement nothing there is no improvement the improvement is a very distant stop and you put the variator's shim further in to go to 138km, an easy solution
Ωραιο μαθημα αλλα μια ερωτηση...το ελατηριο ειναι απο αυτοκινητο????
Για σου Nick όχι βέβαια ουτε απο αυτοκίνητο 🚙 υοτε φορτηγό 🚛 το γνήσιο είναι.
What was the spring rpm?
Hi Take what do you mean and I can't understand you what revs the spring has nothing to do with the sorps?
Było dobrze to zepsół.
yes I agree with you
Привет а на что влияет пружина?
Поставить жесткую пружину малосси и потом её отрезать). Гениально. Поставил бы ролики легче и резать пружину не нужно.
Hi koper I did an experiment to test how long the spring would work because everyone was asking for it
@@MBPATENTS Понял. )))
You don't need to be a genius, just knowing the mechanics is enough.
It is logical that when the spring weakens, the force on the belt will decrease. Engineers specifically calculate the spring stiffness so that the pressure of the cones on the belt is optimal. If this parameter is weakened, belt slippage and increased wear will occur.
You are right, the mechanics know about the tight spring, but in , where do you ever see, the softer the spring, the more kilometers the belt or the engine belt wears out, did you know this and the harder it is, there is damage all over the machine you will have vibrations in the engine with more revolutions in the drum in many lights until the plastics creak
you make belting vibration bro.
just here is a testo test how far does the spring work
مرحبا لقد وضعة بكرات سحب بوزن 16g ولكن لايزال ضعيف في السحب ملاحظه لدي دراجة Sym HD 200cc EVO
El cuentakilómetros miente más que judas😂
Hi jaco qam kayta rikuq?
คนไทยม้ายนิ😊
Hi meennher!!
Hello, my engine is Honda PCX, when it works, it shakes and gives the same knocking sound. Where is the problem?
with what you tell me, I can't understand anything. If I don't hear it myself or see it somewhere, make a video and send it to Facebook somewhere, the email
@@MBPATENTS I will try to take a video and send it to you
@@alisala8226 OK I am waiting
Torq totally low if u can do like this changes....
this is tentative like an experiment.
Basta comprare una molla meno compressa, e dei rulli più leggeri, è inutile tagliare la molla se poi il volano motore apre lento
criterion i cut it to see how a spring works which is soft and harder that means harder is worse for all things on the scooter thank you very much just experimenting here and thought I'd share it on youtube!!
@@MBPATENTSsobre consumo combustível muda algo ?
Fica mais econômica ?
Na subida ela fica mais forte ?
Obrigado se conseguir responder .👍
فديو ممتاز
Hi mohamed thank you very much!!!
The more you Cut the Spring, the more you Kill the Acceleration. Too soft is bad for City scooter, Bad Agressitivity.
the harder it is more dangerous for them, the belt slips more and the bike has more vibrations, the harder it is, the worse it is in my opinion
ОТВЕТ ПОЖАЛУЙСТА Я ВСЕ ПОМЕНЯЛ НОВЫЙ ПОСТАВИЛ ВСЕ РАВНО ДЫМИТЬ
Что ты изменил и что ты куришь, я тебя не понимаю?
Il frère et spiralo di multi forcati finito ?...
of the fairness of the spleen of the spleen that brings us closer
So you ruined the bike? Wtf
Hi joelspoler Yes you are right but I discovered other things from this and we will see later!!
😂😂
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