Road Tubeless
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- We discuss all of our PROS and CONS of both a tubed and tubeless setup on road bikes, give our thoughts and opinions on both, and let you know what we are running on our own bikes. We are curious... What set up do you have on your bike and why?
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Great video. I’ve been riding tubeless 3 yrs on the road 5000 miles/yr. Still get punctures, no down time. Bad road debris down in Florida from construction. Added liners two years ago. Slashed a tire that I couldn’t plug. Road home 20 miles no air, on the air liners with no rim damage. Riding low pressures, comfortable. Didn’t have any rim damage with no air. Couldn’t be happier. There’s a learning curve, but so worth it. I use vittoria air liners on my road bike and their gravel version on gravel
Thank you for watching and glad you're liking your tubeless setup!
I ride one of the dirtiest commutes every day, the bridge to Powell on the 205 path. I used to get at least a flat a week, usually from a burning mattress or fragment of human bone. Since switching to tubeless, I have yet to have a puncture that didn’t seal on that route.
Good review. I ride my tubes in 28mm tires at 60psi, 150lb rider... that is great, no major issues and riding >5000 mile/year few flats. Am going tubeless when I get a new set of tires. looking forward to running lower pressures.
Be PREPARED for FOUR SCHEDULED FLATS PER BIKE PER YEAR to keep this shit liquid !!
I love my set-up now. I used to ride 23mm at 115 psi, now I ride 80F/85R on 25mm's (185-190 lbs). The last time I pinch flatted was 2006. I ride between 7500-11000 miles a year and now flat only about once every 2-3 years (FL, GA, MN). I always carry spare tube and CO2's, but since I almost never use them I have to exchange the tube out because sometimes the threaded valve stem wears on the tube after being in the saddle bag for so long.
Oh yeah, I must also confess, I only ride with tubes and clinchers, never tried tubeless....but I do hate stopping for other riders on group rides who seem to get lots of flats and take forever to change them out.
My best advise for avoiding flats is to change out the rear tire before it gets a noticeable flat spot. I go through 3 rears and 1 front tire per year. Never rotate the tires - that's recipe for problems.
I went tubeless when I purchased a set of Bontrager Aoelus wheels. I went with the Continental 5000 tl tires. Those tires with those rims were a real bear to mount! Then I went with the Vittoria Airlines. They were also a real bear to get in with the continentals. Used the Vittoria sealant and after 2000 miles, no flats! My setup was a real wrestling match to get on but I’ll never got back to tubes. I would rather fight with my tires and rims in my garage than on the road.
pirelli p zero TLR are the easiest tires I have installed. You can give a try.
@@Fear.of.the.Dark. Thanks for the tip. I did go with those last week when the conti’s needed replacement. They were way easier to mount.
@@Wireman273 yeah I was always a conti fan as well but after installing pirelli couple of times, just for the ease of installation I will go by pirelli for future. Contis are a nightmare to put on. My fingers would hurt for 2 to 3 days to fully recover.
Love road tubeless! Be careful when clearing valves with a pick, or similar tool as you can compromise the rubber gasket that fits tight against the wheel. You don’t want to break that seal. Also make sure you fully clean you rims with isopropyl alcohol before taping. You want to make sure your tape fills the entire inside width of the wheel and creates a tight seal.
Great tips! Thanks, Don 👍
Nice vid guys. Going Tubeless in the future
Thank you!
Great instructional!
I like the idea of not having tubes in the wheel and being able to run lower pressure. Eventually I might consider tubeless on my road bike.
Once you make the switch, you’ll be happy you did and asking yourself why you didn’t do it sooner!
Oh man, I’m getting the itch to switch. As a woman in Portland, being stuck on the side of the road isn’t safe.
Come see us across the bridge in Vancouver and we’ll take great care of you! 😁👍
Super informational, great video! Definitely ready to upgrade myself!!!
Please make a video about Titanium frames. You are great guys keep it coming!!!
Excellent video as always! I might need to tip my sealant off. 🤔
Thank you, Matt! We will get a few ounces over to you right away 😉👍
I went Tubeless (hookless) this year. I am 165lbs and run at 55-60PSI. Love the ride. One issue I have that I did not anticipate is removing the tire. The bead is stuck on to the wheel rim. I cannot remove it with my thumbs. I only want to check it for now and maybe rotate. I am concerned that if I need to put an innertube in while on a ride I will be stuck. Any suggestions would be welcome.
I have also seen similar issues and I had to push a lot in order to unseat the bead. I am not sure if there are any other ideas.
Big con is most people will need a new wheelset to convert.
Can you mix the sealants? I saw somewhere where you shouldn't because some are not compatible with each other?
Great question! No, you need to keep them separate since they are different formulas with different chemical makeups.
Your question got me wondering what would actually happen, so I'm going to run a little test to see first had. I've had Orange Seal in my tire for a while, and I've added Stans as of this afternoon. I'll report back with some results in a few days to a week. Stay tuned!
Would you guys be able to do a follow-up “How to Set Up Tubeless” video? Thanks in advance‼️
Absolutely! We will add it to the list, so stay tuned...
@@DialedCycling Thanks Jake and Lance‼️👍🏼
Good to hear about your years of experience with tubeless tires. I just happened upon tubeless tires because the bike I bought had them. Getting a new tire on was a pain, but I eventually got it on & it should get easier each time I do it. My only concern (since I will be riding on trails) is dealing with the occasional flat tire. I intend to carry spare tubes, plugs, & CO2 cartridges just in case I do get a flat. It's no fun getting a flat 10 miles or more from your car & spending a half hour or more trying to get a tubeless tire to seal if the sealant cannot seal a large hole. What are your recommendations for carrying tubeless flat tire fixing stuff?
We always recommend having a tube and a tire boot with you just in case you absolutely need them. Otherwise, having a tire plug like a Stan's Dart or Dynaplug is a good way to plug holes that are too big for the sealant. Having CO2 or a hand pump will be necessary as well so you can add needed tire pressure. Hope this helps!
get the newer tires like the Pirelli P Zero TLR. They are way easier to mounts.
Stop trying to add mountain bike technology to our road bikes. No thanks I don’t want to fight with tires for 35 min to get one on or off a rim. Don’t want to mess with sealants either.
Valid point as some tires and rims just don’t play nice. However, we’ve seen this with tubed tires as well. FWIT, we can tape a rim, add a valve, seat a tire, add sealant, and inflate to spec in less than 10 minutes time… Seems like a fair trade to get a more compliant ride with better rolling resistance and 90% less flats 🤷♂️
This presentation sucks. Avoided all the reasons to stay tubeless and the issues with going tubeless. Just started watching this channel. Not so much now that I know it isn't objective.
Hi Michael- Thank you for the comment and sorry you didn't like the video. There is always going to be a level of subjectivity whenever there is an opinion to be had, but we do aim to bring a level of objectivity to just about everything we present. If you don't mind us asking, what exactly did you not like and find to not be objective? It would be great to have some good, constructive feedback. Nevertheless, thanks for taking the time to watch!
@@DialedCycling Yes, let's get specific. Your presentation noted the problem with spraying sealant all over the bike. How has this changed? Given the size of the tire, a still relatively high PSI is required which when a pierced tire will spray sealant onto the bike. Your presentation mentioned this but moved passed it quickly. The issue with rim/tire fit sizing is a serious one (I had to CUT OFF my tubeless tire when it failed on my first ride), to which it was mentioned the issue has been fixed in recent years. OK, so I have to get new wheels as well as tires to have this work? And all new setups work now? This seemed like gossip when there isn't even a mention of any manufacturers who you know have improved on this issue. There's a mention of rotational weight, which only matters in acceleration, but which is true. What wasn't mentioned is that tubeless tires weigh more than a conventional tire and of course one needs sealant that has weight too (the tape to seal it is marginally more). Again, no numbers which is fine when gossiping about things. And the number of flats mentioned? Come on, where are you guys riding that you get that many flats when with those miles? For pinch flats, I've had one in a decade whilst one a five day trip when I didn't have the ability to check my PSI one day--it's not hard to avoid pinch flats. Opinions are great, and for some things work well when one's thoughts are all that matter. On a topic like this where I've had experience with road tubeless and a decade of tubeless on my mtb, I want something tangible which I didn't get on this topic. The comparison of the cycle computers is the first video of yours I saw and I really like that, but that is just about all opinion (battery life reference was enough) and that worked. I didn't mean to be harsh. You guys have a good chat going but it just isn't for me on topics like this.