Jinjer's Anti-War Anthem is such a BANGER..we did it TWICE! | Jinjer - Home Back | Reaction
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00:00 Introduction & Song Information
03:18 Home Back Reaction
14:36 Home Back (Live in Los Angelas) Reaction
23:38 End Credits
Beautiful and heartfelt reaction. I get teary eyed every time I watch this video. Such senseless nonsense….f war!
Hearing Tati get that low is amazing! Thanks for the reaction!
Apart from the touching and heartbreaking lyrical content... the fact that Tati can produce those low growls live and on demand just boggles my mind. Every. Damn. Time.
thank you for taking the time and attention to dig down and actually fully appreciate this one 🙏
few things make me want to reach through my computer screen and slap a mofo than when i see someone "react" to this song and all they got is "alright, groovy tune - don't forget to subscribe" 🤬
i can remember spending the next 2 weeks after the first time i saw this just obsessed with just drowning in this song. top-5 all-time favs (of _all_ songs, that is ; for Jinjer songs, it's #1, hands down).
i think what made it hit especially hard for me was that i had just a couple of weeks prior happen to have watched a documentary on the story behind the infamous "napalm girl" photo. so now whenever the line "this house is not our shelter anymore" hits, it's like that whole documentary runs through my head.
Powerful song, powerful live performance, powerful musicians and powerful Tatiana 🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘
Home Back is a brilliant, technical piece by jinjer with their signature proggy djent sound, a wonderful surprise jazz change-up in the middle & a brutally heavy ending. The Official Music Video perfectly captures the lyrical subject matter, which is in itself very heavy, being about how war brutalizes & destroys child-like innocence, even for adults. The song was written in the aftermath of the 2014 Russian Annexation of Crimea & Support of Militant Separatists in the Donbass region of Ukraine, where 3 of the 4 Band Members - Tati, Roman & Eugene are from (The Drummer Vlad being from Kiev). All 3 had to leave their families in Donbass and eventually flee to Kiev to keep persuing their music career and essentially be a homeless/refugee band on tour for years on end. The Double Feature Reaction of the official video & the official Live performance was a great choice. The Live at Hellfest 2021 and 2022 Performances of Home Back are excellent too.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why she and the guys say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where V!ct0r!a N3wI@nd is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"? Is that the "independent/sovereign Ukraine" you support?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position (they do not think Russia is an empire or trying to be one, they DO, correctly, think so of the US with its 800 military bases around the world)? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian (it's at least 80 billion USD)?
"The OHCHR used to issue quarterly reports on the conflict, as an example stuff like this in those reports was not uncommon.
OHCHR documented allegations of enforced disappearances, arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and torture and ill-treatment, perpetrated with impunity by Ukrainian law enforcement officials, mainly by elements of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).
During the reporting period, OHCHR documented a pattern of cases of SBU detaining and allegedly torturing the female relatives of men suspected of membership or affiliation with the armed groups...
In the majority of cases documented by OHCHR, law enforcement employed threats of sexual violence against individuals detained under charges of terrorism along with other forms of torture and ill-treatment during interrogation"
www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf
"Other human rights groups such as Amnesty International also issued reports during this period echoing the same things.
Most interviewees told Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch they were tortured before their transfer to SBU’s facilities. Several also alleged that after being transferred to SBU premises they were, variously, beaten, subjected to electric shocks, and threatened with rape, execution, and retaliation against family members, in order to induce them to confess to involvement with separatism-related criminal activities or to provide information."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/1683/2015/en/%5D
"This is an example of the things the ultra-nationalist militias were doing during this period from Amnesty International.
Our findings indicate that, while formally operating under the command of the Ukrainian security forces combined headquarters in the region members of the Aidar battalion act with virtually no oversight or control, and local police are either unwilling or unable to address the abuses...
Some of the abuses committed by members of the Aidar battalion amount to war crimes, for which both the perpetrators and, possibly, the commanders would bear responsibility under national and international law.
A report by a former prisoner held by Right Sector, a nationalist militia, was especially disturbing. Using an abandoned youth camp as an ad hoc prison, Right Sector has reportedly held dozens of civilian prisoners as hostages, brutally torturing them and extorting large amounts of money from them and their families."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/4455/2016/en/
Listing 6500 civilians as "Russian backed separatists" and then saying that it's ok that they got killed because they dared to shoot back at the fascists shooting at them and disappearing their family members is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why she and the guys say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where V!ct0r!a N3wI@nd is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"? Is that the "independent/sovereign Ukraine" you support?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position (they do not think Russia is an empire or trying to be one, they DO, correctly, think so of the US with its 800 military bases around the world)? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian (it's at least 80 billion USD)?
"The OHCHR used to issue quarterly reports on the conflict, as an example stuff like this in those reports was not uncommon.
OHCHR documented allegations of enforced disappearances, arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and torture and ill-treatment, perpetrated with impunity by Ukrainian law enforcement officials, mainly by elements of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).
During the reporting period, OHCHR documented a pattern of cases of SBU detaining and allegedly torturing the female relatives of men suspected of membership or affiliation with the armed groups...
In the majority of cases documented by OHCHR, law enforcement employed threats of sexual violence against individuals detained under charges of terrorism along with other forms of torture and ill-treatment during interrogation"
www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf
"Other human rights groups such as Amnesty International also issued reports during this period echoing the same things.
Most interviewees told Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch they were tortured before their transfer to SBU’s facilities. Several also alleged that after being transferred to SBU premises they were, variously, beaten, subjected to electric shocks, and threatened with rape, execution, and retaliation against family members, in order to induce them to confess to involvement with separatism-related criminal activities or to provide information."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/1683/2015/en/%5D
"This is an example of the things the ultra-nationalist militias were doing during this period from Amnesty International.
Our findings indicate that, while formally operating under the command of the Ukrainian security forces combined headquarters in the region members of the Aidar battalion act with virtually no oversight or control, and local police are either unwilling or unable to address the abuses...
Some of the abuses committed by members of the Aidar battalion amount to war crimes, for which both the perpetrators and, possibly, the commanders would bear responsibility under national and international law.
A report by a former prisoner held by Right Sector, a nationalist militia, was especially disturbing. Using an abandoned youth camp as an ad hoc prison, Right Sector has reportedly held dozens of civilian prisoners as hostages, brutally torturing them and extorting large amounts of money from them and their families."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/4455/2016/en/
Listing 6500 civilians as "Russian backed separatists" and then saying that it's ok that they got killed because they dared to shoot back at the fascists shooting at them and disappearing their family members is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why she and the guys say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where V!ct0r!a N3wI@nd is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"? Is that the "independent/sovereign Ukraine" you support?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position (they do not think Russia is an empire or trying to be one, they DO, correctly, think so of the US with its 800 military bases around the world)? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian (it's at least 80 billion USD)?
"The OHCHR used to issue quarterly reports on the conflict, as an example stuff like this in those reports was not uncommon.
OHCHR documented allegations of enforced disappearances, arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and torture and ill-treatment, perpetrated with impunity by Ukrainian law enforcement officials, mainly by elements of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU).
During the reporting period, OHCHR documented a pattern of cases of SBU detaining and allegedly torturing the female relatives of men suspected of membership or affiliation with the armed groups...
In the majority of cases documented by OHCHR, law enforcement employed threats of sexual violence against individuals detained under charges of terrorism along with other forms of torture and ill-treatment during interrogation"
www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf
"Other human rights groups such as Amnesty International also issued reports during this period echoing the same things.
Most interviewees told Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch they were tortured before their transfer to SBU’s facilities. Several also alleged that after being transferred to SBU premises they were, variously, beaten, subjected to electric shocks, and threatened with rape, execution, and retaliation against family members, in order to induce them to confess to involvement with separatism-related criminal activities or to provide information."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/1683/2015/en/%5D
"This is an example of the things the ultra-nationalist militias were doing during this period from Amnesty International.
Our findings indicate that, while formally operating under the command of the Ukrainian security forces combined headquarters in the region members of the Aidar battalion act with virtually no oversight or control, and local police are either unwilling or unable to address the abuses...
Some of the abuses committed by members of the Aidar battalion amount to war crimes, for which both the perpetrators and, possibly, the commanders would bear responsibility under national and international law.
A report by a former prisoner held by Right Sector, a nationalist militia, was especially disturbing. Using an abandoned youth camp as an ad hoc prison, Right Sector has reportedly held dozens of civilian prisoners as hostages, brutally torturing them and extorting large amounts of money from them and their families."
www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/4455/2016/en/
Listing 6500 civilians as "Russian backed separatists" and then saying that it's ok that they got killed because they dared to shoot back at the fascists shooting at them and disappearing their family members is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Thank you both for a wonderful and in-depth reaction. Love and Peace❤
Tatiana, TRUST YOUR GUT
I wanna thank both of you personally for looking into what this song means and reacting to it with the double feature. It is my favorite Jinjer song not because it is a banger but because my great grandfather was from Kyiv or Kiev Ukraine. It was a part of Russia in WW2 and my great grandfather along with my polish great grandmother fleed to the United States after the war. Thank you again ❤
Great job! Thank you for the deep dive!
You should check out - No Hoard of Value (Lyric Video). It’s about the mining industry backing Ukraine
The good news is that there are SOME indications we MIGHT see the end of the war by the end of this year. The aftermath is going to be horrific and it breaks my heart to think what it will be like for the band once they can return home and see the devastation.
That would be great. Its been going since like 2014.
Ukraine: A destroyed generation. My deepest condolences to all who lost loved ones.
Great reaction.Let me recommend Vicarious by Tool since you mentioned how people are drawn to violence.Its a human nature reality
if you want a good war themed black metal song then should check out swedish black metal band from norkopping sweden marduk with their 1999 song panzer division marduk i would love to see a reaction jinjer is amazing
I love Home Back! Not only for the fantastic music and vocals, but because for me, it is not only a call against war, but connecting the dots that all of these US backed coups and proxy wars have intentionally prevented global cooperation to address climate collapse, so wanting our Home Back is an idea not only for all the war refugees but also for all life on earth about to lose our home ("don't you leave us homeless"). Thank you for reacting to it!
More of the history behind it: in 2014 was the US backed coup led by Ukrainian fascists (Azov Battalion, Banderites, etc) that started a civil war (or just pogroms) where for eight years the Ukrainian military, led by Ukrainian fascists, killed 14 thousand Russian speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas region including Donetsk (where Jinjer formed). The "fire in the hole" lyric in Home Back is about the Ukrainian military killing Russian speaking Ukrainians. That's what Jinjer had to flee when they left the Donbas region to be an essentially homeless/refugee band on tour for years on end. Russia got involved in 2022 (after eight years of trying to use diplomacy to resolve the aggression by the US) to stop the US from handing nuclear weapons to the US backed fascists in Ukraine. The CIA and its cutout NED have always and continue to fund, arm and train fascists like this all over the world for the express purpose of staging coups like the one in Ukraine in 2014.
Azov Battalion, Right Sector and others were placed in the Donbas to kill as many Russian speaking Ukrainians as they could get away with, with multiple failed attempts to blame Russia for these murders. The murders were taking place in the Donbas, which is why Jinjer had to flee that part of Ukraine (they had to decide between staying and being unable to tour or leaving family and friends to tour and being unable to return more than once per year).
Sadly, I see many fellow Jinjer fans (and others) caught up by the US war profiteering propaganda that makes them think Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. They sometimes point to Crimea. Crimea would have been more difficult for those US backed Ukrainian fascist groups, because there were historic reasons that Russia already had military bases in Crimea, none were added after the 2014 US backed coup, which is when the people in Crimea voted to leave Ukraine because they did not recognize the US backed coup regime which was de facto run by the US backed Ukrainian fascists (you can find video of those fascists pointing guns at the Ukrainian parliament).
A friend of Jinjer's bassist Eugene was killed by Ukrainian fascists (not by Russians). When you listen to Jinjer's song Sit Stay Roll Over, take note that it has lyrics (by Eugene) directly quoting the mantra of some of these Ukrainian fascists, "one path, one past, one trust", which is then flipped in the lyrics to, "it's not one's path, it's not one's past, it's not one's trust, it's not MY path, it's not MY past, it's NOT MY TRUST!" Make sure if you get any part of that song stuck in your head, it's the flipped part and not the fascist motto. At least 87% of the world does not believe the US war profiteering propaganda, I just hope that number keeps going up!
Again, thank you both for this double reaction! ❤️🖤🤘
There is a terrible mix of truth and lies in this post. It's *extremely* one-sided and distorted in favour of Russia's twisted narrative. I agree that Ukraine has a problem with fascists (as does Russia and, for that matter, much of the world these days), but you'll notice that Jinjer, who are hardly fascists ("Sit Stay Roll Over"), are *not* siding with Russia as liberators of the Ukrainian people from fascism, but with Ukrainian independence - independence from both Russian domination and from American / western domination ("When Two Empires Collide").
For those reading this thread, the Ukrainian fascists were not the only ones killing people during the 2014 to 2022 conflict, nor were fascists the only Ukrainians fighting. UN figures indicate that the death tolls are 3400 civilians (the vast majority being Ukrainian), 4400 Ukrainian armed forces (mostly Ukrainian military / national guard), 6500 Russian separatists (proxies of Russia) and several hundred Russian military.
The idea that the conflict up to the 2022 invasion was predominantly a civil war between American-backed Ukrainian fascists and pro-Russian separatists of Ukrainian nationality is ludicrous Russian propaganda. Yes, there are plenty of Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine who want to separate, but the conflict began and continues to be between those who want Ukrainian independence (supported by the USA / "the west" for the strategic purpose of weakening Russia) and Russia and its proxies who want to dominate or annex Ukraine. Yes, there are fascist pricks among those who want Ukrainian independence, but I support their fight for independence, and if the US happens to be supporting Ukrainian independence for their own reasons, good. Russian meddling in Ukraine has been just as self-serving as US meddling, but far, far more violent. F Putin's imperialist ambitions.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why they say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where Victoria Newland is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
The 6500 "Russian backed separatists" (civilians) is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why they say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where Victoria Newland is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
The 6500 "Russian backed separatists" (civilians) is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why they say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where V!ctor!a Newl@nd is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"? Is that the "independent/sovereign Ukraine" you support?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
The 6500 "Russian backed separatists" (civilians) is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
Sorry if this comment appears more than once, youtube sometimes deletes things that debunk US war profiteering propaganda.
Have you heard Tatiana's interview where she says she's afraid of her own government shooting her? That could be why they say certain things in public.
Have you heard the phonecall where V!ct0r!a N3wI@nd is deciding the next ruler of Ukraine just before the 2014 US backed coup? Did you know that after that coup they outlawed half the political parties in Ukraine (all the ones on the left), and then held an "election"? Is that the "independent/sovereign Ukraine" you support?
Have you paid attention to UN votes where at least 87% of the world (and over 95% in some votes) support Russia's position (they do not think Russia is an empire or trying to be one)? Why would they do that despite threats from the US?
Do you know how much money the US weapons manufacturing owners have made off this war by the US to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
The 6500 "Russian backed separatists" (civilians) is the pro-imperialist, pro-violence stance here. Please join the 87 to 95% of the world that has stopped believing the US war profiteering propaganda.
This song was written after the 2014 Russian invasion , Tatiana , Eugene n Romen lived in the donbost region of Ukraine , they had to leave there because of the Russian occupation .
" after the 2014 Russian invasion" R U stupid? In 2014 a coup was carried out in Ukraine and the Nazis began to kill Russians in Ukraine in Donbass and Odessa