Got the a7riv last year, and dove in just a little, but this was super clear and very helpful. Totally appreciate the time you took to make & share this!
Ah man! That was AWSOME! I’m getting my a7R IV by the end of this year and I’m in the Nikon family currently. So this video gave me a great starting point to set up my upcoming camera. Thanks! :)
I rarely like/comment on videos, but this was super incredibly handy for me as a new Sony user. After 6 years shooting on Fuji's, there is a lot to learn and this was perfect. Thank you.
Hello Nick. Thanks for the timely video. Just got my Sony A7r IV a few weeks ago and was going to set it up today for trip tomorrow and saw your video last night. we had most of the same settings (from my Sony A7r III), but you presented good reasoning for the ones that I had different - I went with your settings. Enjoying your videos a lot.
This is actually a really interesting video for even non Sony users. Enjoy the A7r IV man & I'm looking forward to seeing it in the field this January 🙌
+One thing that almost no one knows about is that in the screen shown at 15:51, what you called "DSLR mode", is a live adjustment screen. That means any of the settings you see displayed on that screen can be used to adjust that setting. Just hit the 'Fn" button when that screen is displayed, and all of the icons become active. Just scroll to the setting icon, select it and adjust to what you want. This gives you almost instant access to just about any setting you will need during a shooting session. Once again eliminating the need to go to the menu. I don't know why more people don't know about this. -Steve-
Good video, Nick. The one thing I'd like to have seen was setting up the user modes on the camera. That's proven more useful to a generalist like me than I expected.
This was helpful and I have been thinking about going with Sony After all these years been shooting with Nikon now ready for my upgrade thank you for this info
Hi Nick, thanks for this type of video. I'm a Canon user but leaning towards Sony as my next camera, partly because I've seen the results someone like yourself can get from them. [I like Canon gear, but want more resolution and Sony have a couple of great options in the R3 and 4].
Long exposer NR does effect the RAW I use it on my A7rIII while doing some night photography, easiest way of getting rid the hot pixels. Anyway a very nice and useful video!
Bart van Meele I’ve got the A7r4 & have been taking long exposures (over 2 minutes) & in the underexposed areas & shadows of my raw image, there are definitely more noise & hot pixels with it off! So you are 100% correct! 😀👍
Agreed. LENR as it is often described does affect the RAW file. I believe it takes a second 'dark frame' (ie no exposure) and can then determine any hot pixels and do 'dark frame subtraction' and present the RAW file without the hot pixels. If you can afford the time of the extra exposure, it is a must. Edit: I should probably have said 'Not to be confused with 'high iso noise reduction', which will affect jpegs / video. The two are different types of NR. [It's probable the LENR dark frame can remove some background amp noise as well ].
I'm a Canon user but this video is so interesting. Some of what you explained there should be transferable to setting up my 12 year old EOS 5D Mark II. I will give it a go. As for your new Sony A7r IV, what an awesome camera you have there. Time for me to buy a lottery ticket I think.
Thank you so much, it helps me out alot. Im saving now to buy my own a7r4 so your set up tips are really useful. Is there a way to keep your histogram on and the same time as your level? Once again thanks Nick.👊👍
Nick - an excellent tutorial. I was pretty sure I knew "everything", but I still learned a couple of new things! Thank you. I am not into video, but I do a lot of street photography with Leica M lenses with an adapter, so some of my custom settings are different from yours, but by and large, I use the same settings you do. Do you know of a way to transfer RAW files from an A7R IV to a computer either via Bluetooth or WiFi? I hate having to pull out the SD card every time, and I don't like to connect with a cable either.
Hi Nick! I watched this video some time ago, but occasionally revisiting as it is very useful and informative. Thank you! Focusing on the landscape topic, I have an odd question. How do you combine focus and exposure bracketing, so that you can bring all parts of the scene both sharp and well lit on the final shot? I am not aware of A7r4 being capable of doing that in one go. Do I really have to exposure bracket the shots at each focusing distance and than focus stack the blended shots? Thanks a lot for your advise.
Thanks a bundle for the thorough landscape step-by-steps, Nick. Are you, by any chance, working on a similar setup guide for wildlife? I'd like to optimize my wildlife shoots (birds, mainly) with the R4 and the 100-400mm GM -- but I've yet to see anyone (at your caliber) vlog/publish a decent how-to. 'greatly appreciate all the assist! Keep on sharing the good stuff!!!
Nick -- I just got my Sony A7R IV and am really glad I found your video. I used to be a seventh-grade teacher so I know there IS such a thing as a dumb question, and I got one. How do you "assign" a setup to the 1 - 2 - 3 mode buttons on the mode dial? I am an Olympus user, and with my Olympus you just get everything the way you want it and there is a menu you go to to assign the current camera settings to a custom mode. One other thing I hope I can find on the Sony that I really like on the Olympus -- when you are in MF mode, there is a setting on the Olympus where as soon as you move the focus ring, it magnifies the image in your viewfinder by a factor of like 10 and gives you an indication of when you are exactly in focus. Thanks for all your useful suggestions!
Hello, Nick! A great video. My a7riv version displayed 25p (PAL) vs 24p by default in my video settings. I recommend that anyone in the USA, change the video format to NTSC to be ready for that occasional video while shooting landscapes.
Team Nikon 🤘🏻 but still good to see as platforms have some of the same things and optimizing your camera is essential to a quality shooting experience well done Mr. Page
Yeah, I'm also a Nikon shooter, but I'm very intrigued by Sony. I've been a little wary because of the menu system so this video was very interesting to me as well. Seems like a ton of options, but once you get the initial setup down and update your favorites menu, the menu system isn't really a factor.... Which is the same as every other camera out there (to my knowledge).
Justin Richardson I purchased the Z6 and love it I started with the 3300 and bought a bunch of good glass, I wasn’t about to switch platforms. Plus the differences are so slight you can’t go wrong anymore for stills video is where it will get interesting in future.
@@josephcole3187 Yeah, we'll see. The A7 rIV seems to be well ahead of Nikon. I'm glad they are trying, but I'm not sure they will catch up/pass Sony. That said, I love my D750 and have no real reason to justify the expense of a system switch, but it could happen one day. At the moment, I am just hoping that people moving to the Z's or to the A7 rIV will cause D850s to hit the secondary market for cheap. That would satisfy me for quite some time.
Justin Richardson I was going to buy the 750 as that’s what I rented for testing before purchase the only thing that sold me on the Z6 was better low light performance and timelapse capabilities but your right once the 850 drops to a reasonable price that will be a fantastic buy
@@NickPage It's correct what he writes, it's affects RAW on all cameras (I've used). Can make a huge difference - depending on how good the sensor is and how long the exposure is.
Nick, assigning the ISO to Control Wheel ended up with frequent inadvertent ISO changes due to accidental movement. YMMV, but maybe something to lookout for. Otherwise a wonderful option because all 3 major settings (Shutter, Aperture and ISO) on 3 easily controllable wheels.
Thanks! Definitely some useful tips. I've been enjoying my A7RIV after receiving it earlier this week. Heading out for my first milky way shoot with this camera tonight. Do you like focus peaking on in MF for focusing on stars at night or do find the zoomed in view to be helpful enough?
Great video (I've just picked up a a7riv), but I think you're not correct about the long exposure NR not affecting raw files. Try it and I think you'll see a lot of speckling without it even in raw. At least, that has been my experience.
Nick, the Creative Style setting applies to RAW files as well? If yes, how do I turn it off or minimize the impact, use Standard or Neutral as my Creative Style choice?
Hi Nick: I just upgraded from a Sony A7iii, and I have found your video so useful. The only question I have is in connection with whether or not to shoot in RAW UnCompressed format. Is it really worth having the size of the file so large? Cheers, Keith (Canada)
Hey man... Awesome video. I got the R4 and the R3. I noticed a substantial difference of the the LCD display compared to the 3. Is there a setting that I'm unaware of?
I had found moire in the viewfinder when putting high frame rate. I think it changes the resolution. When I went back to the standard the moire went away.
As far as COLOR SPACE when shooting raw, yeah, go with the wider one. Why? It will give you a different JPEG and live view preview (slightly) and this could be important when saving highlight detail as the histogram and highlight warning will be more accurate in terms of what the preview is (assuming the picture style as well).
Hi, Im interested in the Sony A7r 4 and watching your video and the 47 r 4 the menus are a bit scary. do you have any regrets getting that camera as far as the menus go? I thought that once the menus were set maybe there might not be any problems? whats your view? as I am coming from canon 5d mark 2.
Hey Nick, thanks for this video, so helpful. Two questions if you ever have a moment (or anyone else wants to answer): 1) compressed v uncompressed- I always used uncompressed on my a7Riii but having heard people say they don’t notice much difference & a bit scared of my new A7Riv file sizes, I’ve been shooting compressed on the Mark iv. Has anyone found discernible differences in the lossy compressed RAW files? 2) Every other person disagrees online as to whether LENR actually does or does not affect RAW files. A million different answers to this question. Have you or has anyone in the chat tested this theory? I’d certainly love to turn it off but... many thx again for the detailed and thorough video, Nick. I only discovered your channel recently but you are one of the few naturally excellent teachers here in UA-cam land.
I personally have never tested either compressed versus uncompressed or the long exposure noise reduction theory’s. Most people seem to think that it does in fact affect The Raws... but I have always believed otherwise I think it’s time to do an official test and find out for sure. My contact at Sony says that they do affect raw files
Oh, interesting. Thanks so much for getting back to me, Nick. One day I’ll do a side-by-side of the compressed v. uncompressed in terms of dynamic range & sharpness and post my findings. I always wait for other people online to do this kind of thing, so it’s only fair...
Yesterday i had an hour to test A7RIV. Learned a lot of stuff, one thing i wanted to try but didn't find, is to zoom in to 100% during liveview shooting (either screen or EVF doenst matter). On D810 with pretty crappy liveview, shaky, etc, i can with one button, instantly go 100%, press AF-on, see the sharpening,, and see if it's actually in focus, (try again if not, but usually is cause of liveview). This is big cause it gives 100% certainy a landscape type of shot is in focus, and you can fire away unless you move to much again (like on boat). Phase detect focus is hit and miss on dlsr. I found that AF-on button during image preview did the 100% zoom, but not the 'focus magnify' thingy. I really wanted to try this out, cause this is what i look most forward to on mirrorless. In fact if this doenst work properly could be dealbreaker for me. Do you know how to do this? And if so can you show it in video? I would greatly appreciate it. Atm it's one of the few uncertainties aobut A7R4 for me. One thing i absolutely love: the grip. For low weight lenses A7R2 and A7R3 were certainly good, but any big lens you instantly felt ergonomics lacking (compared to DSLR). But 85/135mm GMasters or 100-400mm (tested these also) are joy to use with improved grips, no pinky sliding! For this feature alone, i'm kinda not thinking about buying A7RIII anymore, cause ergonomics make camera so much fun to use. I bought a very good priced 24-70mm GM as headstart into Sony system. (1500 euro, pristine).
Use DMF + enable focus peeking, so this does AF-S and then lets you manually adjust the focus for more precision (and zooms to 100%, again configurable), and you see exactly what is in focus, you can assign all this to a custom recall button that does AF-ON too.
Hi Nick, How does the iv handle subtle tonality and transistions, for example gray colored slate rocks in a scene, skin tones, and sunset hues - in comparison to r iii. Thanks for your informative videos and spirit.
I would love to hear how file management and editing is impacted by 61 mega pickles! I had every intention of upgrading from my Rii this time round, but stopped when I saw the 61mp. Going from 24 mp where import, edit, and backup were painless, to 42 mp where things slowed down significantly on Lightroom and Photoshop even though my computers are only a few years old gave me pause. I expect things to get much worse with 61mp and to bump up against file size limits in Photoshop regularly. No one is talking much about their experience in this area. I am holding back to see if maybe there will be an a9ii with 36mp.
Maybe you need a faster computer,? I'm running a one year old core i7 PC with no issues... But I do run capture one pro 12. System is mid range, 16gb ddr4, 1tb nvme SSD, Nvidia GPU. No problems handing the uncompressed RAW. That said, when shooting wildlife I use compressed RAW in APSC mode at 26,mpx files and it's great... Buffer increases, and you get full EVF AF coverage with extra reach. So the 100400gm becomes a ,600mm equivalent at 26mpx!
I found this interesting even though I haven't got one yet. Am considering buying this system, so not as obsessive as it sounds! Bit worried about sensor dust though..some people say they attract it like magnets?? I read somewhere that setting adobeRGB gives a more accurate histogram for raw.
Its fine if you: turn the cam to face down before removing a lens, keep caps on unused lenses, be quick when changing and avoid changing at dusty places. Also make sure you don't just blow dust into the camera body or you will keep hunting the same dust spot next week. Any dust in the back of a lens will transfer to the camera next time you use it, so keep those clean as well. I check for dust every time before packing the cam for a shoot but rarely find any.
I'm not a Sony shooter, but I am curious about that big sensor and how it works in the real world; the rumored Nikon Z8 has the same sensor, which is where I'll go (currently I shoot a Z7).
1:07 What ? Each time i make a long exposure (more than 30 seconds) i get awful "colored noise" on my raws. I haven't found an efficient way to get rid of it in Lightroom but using "long exposure noise reduction" gives me a clean raw. Anoying obviously but how do you do without ?
Hey Nick just wondering how is the dust build up on the sensor as I still thinking switching to sony from Canon as there take forever to make a descent mirror less system.
I found myself having to get very comfortable cleaning my sensor since switching to Mirrorless . I pretty much clean my sensor almost every time out, but I’ve also learned that it’s not a big deal you get used to it. Mirrorless sensors collect dust like crazy
"A resolution beast", LOL. Aka, a memory eating beast. Any comments on handling those giant files in post? I noticed you use uncompressed, what is the size of that file? I also noticed a few differences in the menu setup between the iv and my iii. No option in the iii for having the My Menu be the default, or I can't find it yet. Damn! On a different note, I was in the southern Sierra (Monache Mountain) this week, at over 8000ft and saw the first of fall color on some aspens. I'm so glad for the change of season.
The uncompressed raw files are about 110 MB. Huge files to be sure it makes a person spend a bit more time in the culling process. My computer handled them just fine but I have a pretty powerful set up but I built a couple years ago with Puget systems.
Looking to move from a old Canon 7D. Stumped on the Sony a7R IV or the D850. What would you suggest for someone picking back up photography who takes landscape, wildlife, and some sports?
thats tough, both are great cameras.. if it were me, I would think about the "system investment" the most, as I see the two camera's as pretty equal. Nikon is going to be focusing far more on mirrorless than their dslr's in the upcoming years, and if your going to invest in lenses for your system, you want them to be future proof. If it were me, I would go sony, for the simple fact that their current lenses are made for their future camers, Nikon is not.
Any recommendations on an L Bracket for the A7RIV? I just got mine yesterday, but I need an L bracket and it seems like there are not many options at this time. Thanks
Great setting up video. What´s your opinion on the FE 24-105 f4? I´m honestly quite interested in that lens for its versatility and reach but I would really like your opinion on it since I´ve hear quite contradictory comments about it. Thank you so much ang great content, new subscriber here :)
I have been very happy with it. It’s not as sharp as my other two lenses but it is plenty good enough. It’s an incredible versatile focal length to have in the bag
I haven't used mine that much yet to verify, but I have heard the same thing from others. One video stated that the A7r 1v was more susceptible to noise, perhaps because of the increase in megapixels?
Just curious why you dont set your top dial using 1,2,3, for various types of shooting with the various settings you want for each. Other than that a very intuitive vlog of what different settings do.
Honestly these days with this camera I pretty much only do one type of shooting... i’ve just never been someone to use custom modes for whatever reason. I always shoot a manual you’re my friend I will change is my focus mode and shutter type
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Regarding uncompressed raw: have you ever compared real world results of compressed vs uncompressed raw? In my opinion, there is absolutely no difference. Only difference is file size which is less than half for compressed raw. Also it increases burst length as it uses less buffer memory. So I am very happy with compressed raw.
I have not on my R4 only the r3 and in the r3 it was better in uncompressed. I figure the r4 should be the same. I shoot compressed because I don't under exposed 3 plus stops and I bracket so no real need to use uncompressed
Hopefully never. I pixel peep unabashedly and hope to one day have 70"+ prints of my best shots on my walls. It's truly remarkable what details we can see.
Hi Nick Thanks for the video. It was a good help getting setup. I did just find this which indicates it may be better to leave the viewfinder refresh rate at Standard ... > (I think this is referring to Setup2, Page 2/7 - Display Quality - Standard or High) phillipreeve.net/blog/an-upgraders-guide-to-the-sony-a7riv/ In the Biggest Benefits section > The upgraded viewfinder is great....... Make sure you have the viewfinder refresh rate set on standard: the resolution drops at the high setting (the high setting is useful though - for example you might use it in a memory setting which uses high burst rates to follow action with autofocus. In this situation refresh rate would be more important than resolution). Thanks for good videos mate. I have not long found your channel. Ken
A7RIV uncompressed is 120MB per file vs Nikon Z7 uncompressed at 100MB file. Not a huge difference.. and how many photos do you keep for each session? I might keep 2 or so out of say 50 shots. My one year old i7 PC has no issues with A7RIV RAW files in capture one pro
@@SandipanBiswas and show me where these lossless compressed files are Superior in any way to what Sony has today? Let's see the RAW for comparison please. I've seen the lossless compressed files out of the Z7...they didn't impress me at all. So I chose the A7RIV over it .
@@nrocha2466 "u have seen z7 files"...thats the basis of your claim? I use a A7R4 as my main camera and a z7 as my second body on a daily basis. Come up to Sony camera groups in fb and look me up by name.
@@SandipanBiswas I've downloaded plenty of Z7 RAW files. They are good, but in no way superior to the A7RIV. Matter of fact the A7RIV has more dynamic range at low AND high ISO. Don't believe it? Look up Jim Kassons blog, and his own testing. There is a 2/3rd stop advantage at ISO 100 with A7RIV over the Z7. Another big issue with the Z7 is the poor Auto focus. It's nowhere near what the A7RIV can do. I know,. I've used a Z7 recently with latest firmware. Nikon has a few years to go before they catch up, and by then Sony would still be ahead. Later
I never base my shots off the histogram. I base it upon how the image looks. You need to sometimes compromise between bringing down the highlights or upping the Shadows. You can do HDR of course but you need to carry a tripod. Basically I just turn the EV dial. Of course you need to watch your shutter speed.
In the age of Digital photography, you should ALWAYS base your exposure off your histogram rather than how the image appears on the back of the screen... exposing to the right is the only way to maximize image quality and the quality of the file. you are either going to have a noise penalty in higher dynamic range scenes, or a tonality/banding penalty in flat images where you add contrast. in the field we are collecting data, make sure you are collecting the best data possible.
You don't appear to have anything set to quickly select Metering mode - I use the down arrow of the Control Wheel (which doesn't have a default setting, if I remember correctly.)
All I've ever heard was how horrid Sony's menus were. From this video they pretty straight forward and not that big of a pain. Now if I only had the coin to play!!
Nick, you forgot the third type person that may be watching this video (ME) and LUSTING for the Sony AR xxx series. This is a cruel reminder and makes me sick to know I should be getting this body and lenses. You cruel man!
Nick Page People are so set in their ways. I see how confused some people get from simple menus in LR or PS. I guess some just don’t adapt. I’ve never had issues with things like that. Some do. We all think differently!! :-) I love that camera!
He gave incorrect information about NR and other things and wasn't very confident in what he was sharing. Stating that something is to his knowledge is not confident and a waist of my time. I had to double check his info with Sony. Sorry to be so blunt. I am very busy and my time is precious.
Trust me I spent more of my time creating this video for your entertainment than it took you to watch it and complain about it... Sorry to waste your precious time
Thanks for the insight Nick. One simple question, why is the frame of your focus point white? On my A7III it's grey and I really have a hard time finding it sometimes.
Video nailed it. I appreciate someone taking the time to go through all this and looking forward to more videos on the A7RIV. Thanks!
Got the a7riv last year, and dove in just a little, but this was super clear and very helpful. Totally appreciate the time you took to make & share this!
Ah man! That was AWSOME! I’m getting my a7R IV by the end of this year and I’m in the Nikon family currently. So this video gave me a great starting point to set up my upcoming camera. Thanks! :)
I rarely like/comment on videos, but this was super incredibly handy for me as a new Sony user. After 6 years shooting on Fuji's, there is a lot to learn and this was perfect. Thank you.
Hello Nick. Thanks for the timely video. Just got my Sony A7r IV a few weeks ago and was going to set it up today for trip tomorrow and saw your video last night. we had most of the same settings (from my Sony A7r III), but you presented good reasoning for the ones that I had different - I went with your settings. Enjoying your videos a lot.
Getting my A7R IV soon. This is great info! Thank you so much.
I have those same DSM-2 monitors. Love em. Thanks for the walk through, learned a few things.
Just got the A7R III, and this video saved me so much trouble after making the switch from Nikon. Thank you
A wealth of knowledge...looking forward to seeing future videos on this vs AR7lll. Thank you!!
This is actually a really interesting video for even non Sony users. Enjoy the A7r IV man & I'm looking forward to seeing it in the field this January 🙌
I agree. Gives you ideas for other brands,+ I might switch up to this Sony model camera in the near future.
Thank you. I’m super excited to try it on mine. New to Sony cameras and you explain very well. Hope to learn from from your videos.
I bought A7RIVA just a few days before with Sigma 14-24 f2.8. Your tutorial is really excellent . Thanks & God bless.
Thank you for doing this video, so very helpful!!!
+One thing that almost no one knows about is that in the screen shown at 15:51, what you called "DSLR mode", is a live adjustment screen. That means any of the settings you see displayed on that screen can be used to adjust that setting. Just hit the 'Fn" button when that screen is displayed, and all of the icons become active. Just scroll to the setting icon, select it and adjust to what you want. This gives you almost instant access to just about any setting you will need during a shooting session. Once again eliminating the need to go to the menu. I don't know why more people don't know about this. -Steve-
While I never use this particular screen, that's a nice tip to know! Never heard anyone reference it before.
@@tony_r_pierce Yep, it seems to be a secret, but is very useful sometimes.
loved this! new to photography, got the a7r3a
Good video, Nick. The one thing I'd like to have seen was setting up the user modes on the camera. That's proven more useful to a generalist like me than I expected.
Love love love post processing videos!
Super helpful. Thank you!
Thank you, very interesting. On Monday I will pick up my a7riv. Your video will be very useful.
Thank You . THIS IS REALLY HELP
Thank you - very helpful!
Great advice, thanks!
New you were getting the r4. I love mine. Now need Mr Heaton to be convinced.
This was helpful and I have been thinking about going with Sony
After all these years been shooting with Nikon now ready for my upgrade thank you for this info
Mike capell you will love the mirrorless system. You will never chimp again. I switched from Nikon d750 to the Rii then r3 now r4
Nick Minderman well the first of the year I’m for sure I’m getting. Sony don’t with one yet But I’ll choose wisely
Nice! I'm a gen behind. Just got the a7riii.
Hi Nick, thanks for this type of video. I'm a Canon user but leaning towards Sony as my next camera, partly because I've seen the results someone like yourself can get from them. [I like Canon gear, but want more resolution and Sony have a couple of great options in the R3 and 4].
Great Nick!
Some good tips there Baron.
Still using my old A7II from 2015 with great satisfaction. But it's fun to see how far things have come...
Long exposer NR does effect the RAW I use it on my A7rIII while doing some night photography, easiest way of getting rid the hot pixels. Anyway a very nice and useful video!
Bart van Meele I’ve got the A7r4 & have been taking long exposures (over 2 minutes) & in the underexposed areas & shadows of my raw image, there are definitely more noise & hot pixels with it off! So you are 100% correct! 😀👍
@@nashhall694 As far as I know, Long exposure NR affects RAW on all cameras.
Agreed. LENR as it is often described does affect the RAW file. I believe it takes a second 'dark frame' (ie no exposure) and can then determine any hot pixels and do 'dark frame subtraction' and present the RAW file without the hot pixels. If you can afford the time of the extra exposure, it is a must.
Edit: I should probably have said 'Not to be confused with 'high iso noise reduction', which will affect jpegs / video. The two are different types of NR. [It's probable the LENR dark frame can remove some background amp noise as well ].
@@simonmaney3438 Exactly!
Is this something you always keep on? Or would you say its very situational when it comes to Landscapes.
Good stuff man.
I'm a Canon user but this video is so interesting. Some of what you explained there should be transferable to setting up my 12 year old EOS 5D Mark II. I will give it a go. As for your new Sony A7r IV, what an awesome camera you have there. Time for me to buy a lottery ticket I think.
Wendy Newing or just get the Canon RP, no need to buy new lenses or take a 4 year course to learn the Sony menus. 😜
thank you!
Thank you so much, it helps me out alot. Im saving now to buy my own a7r4 so your set up tips are really useful. Is there a way to keep your histogram on and the same time as your level? Once again thanks Nick.👊👍
Thumbs up left, see ya in the next one 😜
Nick - an excellent tutorial. I was pretty sure I knew "everything", but I still learned a couple of new things! Thank you. I am not into video, but I do a lot of street photography with Leica M lenses with an adapter, so some of my custom settings are different from yours, but by and large, I use the same settings you do.
Do you know of a way to transfer RAW files from an A7R IV to a computer either via Bluetooth or WiFi? I hate having to pull out the SD card every time, and I don't like to connect with a cable either.
Zebra custom setting C1 set to lower limit 109+. Works great for me at those settings.
Hi Nick! I watched this video some time ago, but occasionally revisiting as it is very useful and informative. Thank you!
Focusing on the landscape topic, I have an odd question. How do you combine focus and exposure bracketing, so that you can bring all parts of the scene both sharp and well lit on the final shot? I am not aware of A7r4 being capable of doing that in one go. Do I really have to exposure bracket the shots at each focusing distance and than focus stack the blended shots? Thanks a lot for your advise.
Thanks a bundle for the thorough landscape step-by-steps, Nick. Are you, by any chance, working on a similar setup guide for wildlife? I'd like to optimize my wildlife shoots (birds, mainly) with the R4 and the 100-400mm GM -- but I've yet to see anyone (at your caliber) vlog/publish a decent how-to. 'greatly appreciate all the assist! Keep on sharing the good stuff!!!
Thanks for the video! Really helpful! One question, is the flash on screen when focusing normal?
Nick -- I just got my Sony A7R IV and am really glad I found your video. I used to be a seventh-grade teacher so I know there IS such a thing as a dumb question, and I got one. How do you "assign" a setup to the 1 - 2 - 3 mode buttons on the mode dial? I am an Olympus user, and with my Olympus you just get everything the way you want it and there is a menu you go to to assign the current camera settings to a custom mode. One other thing I hope I can find on the Sony that I really like on the Olympus -- when you are in MF mode, there is a setting on the Olympus where as soon as you move the focus ring, it magnifies the image in your viewfinder by a factor of like 10 and gives you an indication of when you are exactly in focus.
Thanks for all your useful suggestions!
Hello, Nick! A great video. My a7riv version displayed 25p (PAL) vs 24p by default in my video settings. I recommend that anyone in the USA, change the video format to NTSC to be ready for that occasional video while shooting landscapes.
Team Nikon 🤘🏻 but still good to see as platforms have some of the same things and optimizing your camera is essential to a quality shooting experience well done Mr. Page
Yeah, I'm also a Nikon shooter, but I'm very intrigued by Sony. I've been a little wary because of the menu system so this video was very interesting to me as well. Seems like a ton of options, but once you get the initial setup down and update your favorites menu, the menu system isn't really a factor.... Which is the same as every other camera out there (to my knowledge).
Justin Richardson I purchased the Z6 and love it I started with the 3300 and bought a bunch of good glass, I wasn’t about to switch platforms. Plus the differences are so slight you can’t go wrong anymore for stills video is where it will get interesting in future.
@@josephcole3187 Yeah, we'll see. The A7 rIV seems to be well ahead of Nikon. I'm glad they are trying, but I'm not sure they will catch up/pass Sony. That said, I love my D750 and have no real reason to justify the expense of a system switch, but it could happen one day.
At the moment, I am just hoping that people moving to the Z's or to the A7 rIV will cause D850s to hit the secondary market for cheap. That would satisfy me for quite some time.
Justin Richardson I was going to buy the 750 as that’s what I rented for testing before purchase the only thing that sold me on the Z6 was better low light performance and timelapse capabilities but your right once the 850 drops to a reasonable price that will be a fantastic buy
@@justinrichardson3864 that's what I'm waiting on as well. I'd say it dropped a bit but not enough yet! What's your favourite glass on the d750?
Thanks Nick. BTW, lenr does affect raw files and is very useful for night photography
interesting, i will need to do some tests with and without
@@NickPage It's correct what he writes, it's affects RAW on all cameras (I've used). Can make a huge difference - depending on how good the sensor is and how long the exposure is.
Nick, assigning the ISO to Control Wheel ended up with frequent inadvertent ISO changes due to accidental movement. YMMV, but maybe something to lookout for. Otherwise a wonderful option because all 3 major settings (Shutter, Aperture and ISO) on 3 easily controllable wheels.
Thanks! Definitely some useful tips. I've been enjoying my A7RIV after receiving it earlier this week. Heading out for my first milky way shoot with this camera tonight. Do you like focus peaking on in MF for focusing on stars at night or do find the zoomed in view to be helpful enough?
I typically turn it off.. they are too annoying I feel like I focus better with out the peaking on for astro.
Great video (I've just picked up a a7riv), but I think you're not correct about the long exposure NR not affecting raw files. Try it and I think you'll see a lot of speckling without it even in raw. At least, that has been my experience.
This is interesting for me(Canon shooter) why? I Can learn a lot from that 😀
Nick, the Creative Style setting applies to RAW files as well? If yes, how do I turn it off or minimize the impact, use Standard or Neutral as my Creative Style choice?
hahahaha I stayed to the end, even though I'm not a Sony user. Great info though. Setting up the menu is always a pain in the ass on any camera.
Hi, what’s the best setting for B&W photography to gain rush dynamic range without using post?
Hi Nick: I just upgraded from a Sony A7iii, and I have found your video so useful. The only question I have is in connection with whether or not to shoot in RAW UnCompressed format. Is it really worth having the size of the file so large? Cheers, Keith (Canada)
Hey man... Awesome video. I got the R4 and the R3. I noticed a substantial difference of the the LCD display compared to the 3. Is there a setting that I'm unaware of?
I had found moire in the viewfinder when putting high frame rate. I think it changes the resolution. When I went back to the standard the moire went away.
Same here. I only use high frame rate for action.
As far as COLOR SPACE when shooting raw, yeah, go with the wider one. Why? It will give you a different JPEG and live view preview (slightly) and this could be important when saving highlight detail as the histogram and highlight warning will be more accurate in terms of what the preview is (assuming the picture style as well).
Hi, Im interested in the Sony A7r 4 and watching your video and the 47 r 4 the menus are a bit scary. do you have any regrets getting that camera as far as the menus go? I thought that once the menus were set maybe there might not be any problems? whats your view? as I am coming from canon 5d mark 2.
Hey Nick, thanks for this video, so helpful. Two questions if you ever have a moment (or anyone else wants to answer): 1) compressed v uncompressed- I always used uncompressed on my a7Riii but having heard people say they don’t notice much difference & a bit scared of my new A7Riv file sizes, I’ve been shooting compressed on the Mark iv. Has anyone found discernible differences in the lossy compressed RAW files? 2) Every other person disagrees online as to whether LENR actually does or does not affect RAW files. A million different answers to this question. Have you or has anyone in the chat tested this theory? I’d certainly love to turn it off but... many thx again for the detailed and thorough video, Nick. I only discovered your channel recently but you are one of the few naturally excellent teachers here in UA-cam land.
I personally have never tested either compressed versus uncompressed or the long exposure noise reduction theory’s. Most people seem to think that it does in fact affect The Raws... but I have always believed otherwise I think it’s time to do an official test and find out for sure. My contact at Sony says that they do affect raw files
Oh, interesting. Thanks so much for getting back to me, Nick. One day I’ll do a side-by-side of the compressed v. uncompressed in terms of dynamic range & sharpness and post my findings. I always wait for other people online to do this kind of thing, so it’s only fair...
Yesterday i had an hour to test A7RIV. Learned a lot of stuff, one thing i wanted to try but didn't find, is to zoom in to 100% during liveview shooting (either screen or EVF doenst matter). On D810 with pretty crappy liveview, shaky, etc, i can with one button, instantly go 100%, press AF-on, see the sharpening,, and see if it's actually in focus, (try again if not, but usually is cause of liveview). This is big cause it gives 100% certainy a landscape type of shot is in focus, and you can fire away unless you move to much again (like on boat). Phase detect focus is hit and miss on dlsr. I found that AF-on button during image preview did the 100% zoom, but not the 'focus magnify' thingy. I really wanted to try this out, cause this is what i look most forward to on mirrorless. In fact if this doenst work properly could be dealbreaker for me. Do you know how to do this? And if so can you show it in video? I would greatly appreciate it. Atm it's one of the few uncertainties aobut A7R4 for me. One thing i absolutely love: the grip. For low weight lenses A7R2 and A7R3 were certainly good, but any big lens you instantly felt ergonomics lacking (compared to DSLR). But 85/135mm GMasters or 100-400mm (tested these also) are joy to use with improved grips, no pinky sliding! For this feature alone, i'm kinda not thinking about buying A7RIII anymore, cause ergonomics make camera so much fun to use. I bought a very good priced 24-70mm GM as headstart into Sony system. (1500 euro, pristine).
Use DMF + enable focus peeking, so this does AF-S and then lets you manually adjust the focus for more precision (and zooms to 100%, again configurable), and you see exactly what is in focus, you can assign all this to a custom recall button that does AF-ON too.
Hi Nick,
How does the iv handle subtle tonality and transistions, for example gray colored slate rocks in a scene, skin tones, and sunset hues - in comparison to r iii.
Thanks for your informative videos and spirit.
No difference.
I would love to hear how file management and editing is impacted by 61 mega pickles! I had every intention of upgrading from my Rii this time round, but stopped when I saw the 61mp. Going from 24 mp where import, edit, and backup were painless, to 42 mp where things slowed down significantly on Lightroom and Photoshop even though my computers are only a few years old gave me pause. I expect things to get much worse with 61mp and to bump up against file size limits in Photoshop regularly. No one is talking much about their experience in this area. I am holding back to see if maybe there will be an a9ii with 36mp.
Maybe you need a faster computer,? I'm running a one year old core i7 PC with no issues... But I do run capture one pro 12. System is mid range, 16gb ddr4, 1tb nvme SSD, Nvidia GPU. No problems handing the uncompressed RAW. That said, when shooting wildlife I use compressed RAW in APSC mode at 26,mpx files and it's great... Buffer increases, and you get full EVF AF coverage with extra reach. So the 100400gm becomes a ,600mm equivalent at 26mpx!
I found this interesting even though I haven't got one yet. Am considering buying this system, so not as obsessive as it sounds! Bit worried about sensor dust though..some people say they attract it like magnets?? I read somewhere that setting adobeRGB gives a more accurate histogram for raw.
Its fine if you: turn the cam to face down before removing a lens, keep caps on unused lenses, be quick when changing and avoid changing at dusty places. Also make sure you don't just blow dust into the camera body or you will keep hunting the same dust spot next week. Any dust in the back of a lens will transfer to the camera next time you use it, so keep those clean as well. I check for dust every time before packing the cam for a shoot but rarely find any.
I'm not a Sony shooter, but I am curious about that big sensor and how it works in the real world; the rumored Nikon Z8 has the same sensor, which is where I'll go (currently I shoot a Z7).
Are all settings in Lens Comp - do you have it on or off in the body?
have u tried astro with it Nick
1:07 What ? Each time i make a long exposure (more than 30 seconds) i get awful "colored noise" on my raws. I haven't found an efficient way to get rid of it in Lightroom but using "long exposure noise reduction" gives me a clean raw. Anoying obviously but how do you do without ?
Ok, I’ll go watch 1st We Feast. Still with Canon
I know this is a 3 year old video but what would your setting be for when you shoot action or when you shoot a NFL game?
Hey Nick just wondering how is the dust build up on the sensor as I still thinking switching to sony from Canon as there take forever to make a descent mirror less system.
I found myself having to get very comfortable cleaning my sensor since switching to Mirrorless . I pretty much clean my sensor almost every time out, but I’ve also learned that it’s not a big deal you get used to it. Mirrorless sensors collect dust like crazy
It sucks, just like all the previous models, Sony needs to do something about this, it's annoying!!
"A resolution beast", LOL. Aka, a memory eating beast.
Any comments on handling those giant files in post? I noticed you use uncompressed, what is the size of that file?
I also noticed a few differences in the menu setup between the iv and my iii. No option in the iii for having the My Menu be the default, or I can't find it yet. Damn!
On a different note, I was in the southern Sierra (Monache Mountain) this week, at over 8000ft and saw the first of fall color on some aspens. I'm so glad for the change of season.
The uncompressed raw files are about 110 MB. Huge files to be sure it makes a person spend a bit more time in the culling process.
My computer handled them just fine but I have a pretty powerful set up but I built a couple years ago with Puget systems.
don't have a Sony. still giving it a like because of Nick
Looking to move from a old Canon 7D. Stumped on the Sony a7R IV or the D850. What would you suggest for someone picking back up photography who takes landscape, wildlife, and some sports?
thats tough, both are great cameras.. if it were me, I would think about the "system investment" the most, as I see the two camera's as pretty equal. Nikon is going to be focusing far more on mirrorless than their dslr's in the upcoming years, and if your going to invest in lenses for your system, you want them to be future proof. If it were me, I would go sony, for the simple fact that their current lenses are made for their future camers, Nikon is not.
Great advise. Do you think The A7R IV is a better camera vs the a9? You can get them for the same price that’s days since the 9ii is coming out.
Any recommendations on an L Bracket for the A7RIV? I just got mine yesterday, but I need an L bracket and it seems like there are not many options at this time. Thanks
I found that my old Sunwayfoto bracket designed for the Riii fits.. I have my Really Right Stuff bracket on pre-order
@@NickPage Thanks!
John Callery ?
@@billhatherley9730 Yes, I am John Callery.
Great setting up video. What´s your opinion on the FE 24-105 f4? I´m honestly quite interested in that lens for its versatility and reach but I would really like your opinion on it since I´ve hear quite contradictory comments about it. Thank you so much ang great content, new subscriber here :)
I have been very happy with it. It’s not as sharp as my other two lenses but it is plenty good enough. It’s an incredible versatile focal length to have in the bag
@@NickPage Thank you! Take care :)
Long exposure noise reduction does affect raw files... In a big, and positive way
I keep meaning to test this, but I still havn't. But your not the first to point it out to me, I have always assumed that it only affected jpegs
Has anyone seen more noise in the A7rIV compared to the A7rIII? I am noticing noise starting at iso 640 and above.
Nick-Thanks always for your videos
I haven't used mine that much yet to verify, but I have heard the same thing from others. One video stated that the A7r 1v was more susceptible to noise, perhaps because of the increase in megapixels?
I'm a future Sony shooter...
Just curious why you dont set your top dial using 1,2,3, for various types of shooting with the various settings you want for each. Other than that a very intuitive vlog of what different settings do.
Honestly these days with this camera I pretty much only do one type of shooting... i’ve just never been someone to use custom modes for whatever reason. I always shoot a manual you’re my friend I will change is my focus mode and shutter type
What are you using to record that menu like that?
Hooking the camera up to a elgato game capture card
Regarding uncompressed raw: have you ever compared real world results of compressed vs uncompressed raw? In my opinion, there is absolutely no difference. Only difference is file size which is less than half for compressed raw. Also it increases burst length as it uses less buffer memory. So I am very happy with compressed raw.
The benefit to uncompressed in my findings is very under exposed shadows. Brings back less noise
Nick Minderman really? Did you test same conditions and an uncompressed versus a compressed one?
I have not on my R4 only the r3 and in the r3 it was better in uncompressed. I figure the r4 should be the same. I shoot compressed because I don't under exposed 3 plus stops and I bracket so no real need to use uncompressed
You'll only see differences if you shoot high contrast scenes, e.g. pin sharp night time shots with bright lamps and windows.
Is compressed raw lossy or lossless compression?
Sony says it’s lossless, but I don’t trust it. I would rather shoot uncompressed
This camera along with all accessories costs a fortune! When will this megapixel war end???
Hopefully never. I pixel peep unabashedly and hope to one day have 70"+ prints of my best shots on my walls. It's truly remarkable what details we can see.
Hey, where's the images you took!
In all my other videos since
Hi Nick
Thanks for the video. It was a good help getting setup.
I did just find this which indicates it may be better to leave the viewfinder refresh rate at Standard ... >
(I think this is referring to Setup2, Page 2/7 - Display Quality - Standard or High)
phillipreeve.net/blog/an-upgraders-guide-to-the-sony-a7riv/
In the Biggest Benefits section >
The upgraded viewfinder is great....... Make sure you have the viewfinder refresh rate set on standard: the resolution drops at the high setting (the high setting is useful though - for example you might use it in a memory setting which uses high burst rates to follow action with autofocus. In this situation refresh rate would be more important than resolution).
Thanks for good videos mate. I have not long found your channel.
Ken
That is really interesting! I did not know that I’m gonna have to play around with it now thanks for the kind words Ken
Nick, i cringed when you selected uncompressed on that 61MP beast, i was thinking, omg those files are gonna be massive.
A7RIV uncompressed is 120MB per file vs Nikon Z7 uncompressed at 100MB file. Not a huge difference.. and how many photos do you keep for each session? I might keep 2 or so out of say 50 shots. My one year old i7 PC has no issues with A7RIV RAW files in capture one pro
n rocha nikon z7 provides lossless compressed, which is what everyone uses.
@@SandipanBiswas and show me where these lossless compressed files are Superior in any way to what Sony has today? Let's see the RAW for comparison please. I've seen the lossless compressed files out of the Z7...they didn't impress me at all. So I chose the A7RIV over it .
@@nrocha2466 "u have seen z7 files"...thats the basis of your claim? I use a A7R4 as my main camera and a z7 as my second body on a daily basis. Come up to Sony camera groups in fb and look me up by name.
@@SandipanBiswas I've downloaded plenty of Z7 RAW files. They are good, but in no way superior to the A7RIV. Matter of fact the A7RIV has more dynamic range at low AND high ISO. Don't believe it? Look up Jim Kassons blog, and his own testing. There is a 2/3rd stop advantage at ISO 100 with A7RIV over the Z7. Another big issue with the Z7 is the poor Auto focus. It's nowhere near what the A7RIV can do. I know,. I've used a Z7 recently with latest firmware. Nikon has a few years to go before they catch up, and by then Sony would still be ahead. Later
I never base my shots off the histogram. I base it upon how the image looks. You need to sometimes compromise between bringing down the highlights or upping the Shadows. You can do HDR of course but you need to carry a tripod. Basically I just turn the EV dial. Of course you need to watch your shutter speed.
In the age of Digital photography, you should ALWAYS base your exposure off your histogram rather than how the image appears on the back of the screen... exposing to the right is the only way to maximize image quality and the quality of the file. you are either going to have a noise penalty in higher dynamic range scenes, or a tonality/banding penalty in flat images where you add contrast. in the field we are collecting data, make sure you are collecting the best data possible.
You don't appear to have anything set to quickly select Metering mode - I use the down arrow of the Control Wheel (which doesn't have a default setting, if I remember correctly.)
That’s because I always shoot in manual and I don’t even pay attention to metering modes
@@NickPage That makes sense! :)
I still can’t get over the fact that you have never shot with a film camera. Slacker! LOL. I still have rolls of Velvia in my freezer.
Lol Sunday I’m gonna head down and shoot with Ben Horne and learn the ways!
All I've ever heard was how horrid Sony's menus were. From this video they pretty straight forward and not that big of a pain. Now if I only had the coin to play!!
Those reviews were done by non-Sony shooters I think, you get used to anything if you use it enough
Nick, you forgot the third type person that may be watching this video (ME) and LUSTING for the Sony AR xxx series. This is a cruel reminder and makes me sick to know I should be getting this body and lenses. You cruel man!
Lol... Menus aren’t as bad as they make them out to be are they
Nick Page People are so set in their ways. I see how confused some people get from simple menus in LR or PS. I guess some just don’t adapt. I’ve never had issues with things like that. Some do. We all think differently!! :-) I love that camera!
He gave incorrect information about NR and other things and wasn't very confident in what he was sharing. Stating that something is to his knowledge is not confident and a waist of my time. I had to double check his info with Sony. Sorry to be so blunt. I am very busy and my time is precious.
Trust me I spent more of my time creating this video for your entertainment than it took you to watch it and complain about it... Sorry to waste your precious time
Very helpful! Thanks so much!
Thanks for the insight Nick. One simple question, why is the frame of your focus point white? On my A7III it's grey and I really have a hard time finding it sometimes.
Thats a new feature of the A7R4 that apparently is being introduced to some older models via firmware updates.
Yep on the r4 you can choose white or red