@powcod 74 Besides the improvements in intake design and lack of egr on the LS6, it is near identical to the LS1. Therefore, one can only assume the LS6 you've referenced must be the 11.25:1, solid lifter, 450hp, 454³" big block available 1970 only. You, sir, have exquisite taste.
@@jasonstinson1767 I would say the 454 was the slowest, boat anchor excuse for the big blocks that Chevy made. The LS6 big block would be on the bottom of the list. Probably the worst engine Chevy put into a car or truck. Doggy and a huge gas guzzler.
the 5.3 the most infamous motor chevy has produced for being swapped into everything and boosted to the moon should of had a spot on here just for its popularity.
Doughnuts and Cannabis are popular in the U.S. also, doesn't mean people should constantly consume them as well. I'd pick a (Bullet Race Engineering ua-cam.com/video/m53RjI6xFaE/v-deo.html) 2jz or and RB or DETT or a Toyota/Nissan V8 ... over anything America has produced, any day!!
More than likely he was focusing on how they came from the factory, and the 5.3 was just a bread and butter truck engine. It gets commonly swapped because it's cheap but shares parts with the LS series. So parts are readily available, and has relatively good cylinder heads. Meaning it's a cam away from decent power, but it's nothing special.
Chevy 350 is the best engine of all time good power reliable you could rebuild it overnight and very inexpensive to work on great sound there’s just nothing that compares to it
I missed my 72 Olds with the 350 big block Rocket. It purr like a kitten. And sound cool when you punch it down.that never gave me a problem. Very reliable motor. Never see those days again
@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter yes it is an improvement in power and torque throughout the rpm range but in my opinion its not worth the added complexity. Long timing belts or chains that stretch, multiple sensors that can fail as well as the mechanisms that advance or retard the cams, very wide cylinder heads etc.
I had the 5.0L version (L03) in a B car. With 2.73 rear end and a 4L60E, I got over 30 highway miles a gallon routinely. Not a powerful engine, but reliable and it ran well enough.
I have alot of different old school small blocks, most of them modified over 500hp but my favorite is still my L79 327 small block 350hp version in my 66 Nova. Awesome little engine
In 1995 the LS1 engine was tested by GM for reliability and durability in a 1994 Buick Roadmaster in Michigan driven back and forth to work everyday 60 miles round trip 5 days a week for 9 months by a GM engineer to test it in the cold winter through summer before it made it into production looking for potential problems
I'd pick a (Bullet Race Engineering ua-cam.com/video/m53RjI6xFaE/v-deo.html) 2jz or and RB or DETT or a Toyota/Nissan V8 ... over anything America has produced, any day!!
For me, it's the LS. While the Coyote can make nutso power and torque, it's still a small inch, high strung screamer that is overly complex, large for its weight, and refuses to make power and torque down low after a hop up. The LS is solid, reliable, can make nutso power too. But it's arcaic and crude. Can also be heavy for it's small physical size, eat lifters..... eh, it's a point of preference.
I got an 02 express 1500 with the 5.7l. I was looking in the service book and it looks like it was available with a 454. I'm still dumbfounded! I just can't imagine that much power!
It would have only been available on 2500 & 3500 Van's as it was in Trucks. The 10 bolt 8½" ring gear differential's input torque rating (as well as the 4L60E) wouldn't withstand Big Block torque.
@@jasonstinson1767 these 454 engines made very good low-end torque idle-3500rpm for truck applications pulling a heavy load the torque on these engines drop like a brick off a cliff above 4000rpm and are basically a turd in a performance application unless modified stock it made 230 horsepower at a extremely weak 3600rpm 385 foot pounds of torque at 1600rpm and a extremely weak 7.9:1 compression ratio for example of how weak this 454 is my 2004 Buick LeSabre with a 3800 V6 engine makes 205 horsepower and definitely not performance orientated so a 231 cubic in engine vs a 454 cubic inch engine a difference in 223 cubic inches and it makes only 25 horsepower more is extremely sad but this 454 is good for towing heavy loads they are definitely no performance powerhouse unless they are modified with a compression ratio of 10.1 or more and a camshaft that pulls strongly to 6000+rpm that makes at least 440+ horsepower GM should be ashamed to produce a 454 engine with 230 horsepower anything under 350 horsepower is a complete embarrassment even for a stock 454
@Gloria Maletta yep couldn't agree more. The only replacement for displacement all things equal is RPM. With the exception of early Gen lll big blocks with the aforementioned 10:1 compression and rectangle port heads, also a few oval port, stock big blocks are an expensive way to burn fuel for marginal gains in performance. All things being equal (valve lift and duration, head flow and rpm range as relative to displacement) they can make great power but in a field like that any engine from any manufacturer will perform nearly identical all variables being equivalent. I do know that the cheapest way to make "reliable" power is likely a worked over SBC. A LS Gen 4 with a cheap turbo or nitrous may be the cheapest power to be found from what I've seen. Thank you for the reply. Very concise and based on reality likely from experience.
Kudo's pal. This is a heap of information at a speedway pace. I'm impressed. You talk very fast, which I appreciate. Just when you think that you know it all, some young fellow shows his stuff. I just subscribed. I was kind of hoping you would mention my first Chevy V-8, a '60 Impala with a 348 with a cam. It was faster than a stock 289 Mustang. It went through transmissions and rear ends, every month it seems like. I remember swapping pilot shafts at 2AM, learning how to apply needle bearings to the whatever you call the part of the transmission that you swap the pilot shaft onto. This was 1968, so I tend to blend nomenclature. Anyway, I thoroughly appreciated your effort here. I'm looking forward to more.
Please do a review of the Oldsmobile Aurora Indianapolis engine. This engine was the most winning engine at the 500 for several years. And very underrated in the Aurora car. A lot of engineering went into this engine. It should not be lost to history.
The LS7 was a great design, but LS7 and super reliable don't go together as they seem to like dropping valves most of the time and GM won't warranty it. I agree the LS and later LT engines are amazing designs and it's cool to see GM going out with a bang before we're forced to go EV. My favorite was the 327 L79 for small block and the L88 427 for the big block. Good video though, carry on....
I agree about the LS7. Wish GM would address the head guide issue, but got OEM worked over Lingenfelter's on mine. Hope this makes this engine reliable in my Z, as I really enjoy the car.
Vortec engines did not start from LS’s. They started the gen before with 350’s still. They were different than the TBI engines and controlled differently.
The thing about ‘Vortec’ is that it’s just a name. There is no single type of 😢Vortec engine, as this name was applied to such diverse engines as the Gen I, Gen III+, as well as the DOHC Atlas engine. Vortec is a marketing term. It does not represent any specific design.
So I currently own an 06 Cadillac Escalade with the 6.0L LS, I also used to own a 2015 mustang GT with the 5.0L coyote. As far as which is better it simply depends on what your trying to use them for. The coyote is a high reving dual over head cam motor with not much low end torque but makes high horse power numbers. The LS is an over head valve motor built specifically for drag racing so it has really good torque and horsepower numbers. Very rarely have I ever seen an LS dish out way more torque then horsepower as they tend to stay pretty close together for the LS platform which actually makes the motor the best when it comes to 1/4 and even 1/2 mile runs at your local drag strip, I mean there was a reason people LS swapped their fox bodies for so long and still do today. Light body with a motor that puts out easy cheap and reliable horsepower and torque build specifically for drag racing. But that age old saying of “wanna make a ford faster… LS swap it” in my opinion has just been taken out of the equation, because the 5.0L coyote has proven to be one of the most powerful platforms to date on the streets today. Their top end is practically unbeatable, stock for stock and even mod for mod the coyote out runs the LS platform all day long. But even still I wouldn’t put one over the other, both platforms have proven themselves as reliable power houses so it really just comes down to which is cheaper to build which would be the LS. The stage two texas speed cam upgrade for my 6.0L LS in my Escalade all together cost me no more then $1,100 with I’d say a good 12 to 13% increase in power pushing my 6.0L from a factory 365hp to about 470hp. My coyote on the other hand would of been well over 3 to 4K dollars by the end of the upgrade and unless I went super aggressive with the cams it really wouldn’t of shown as much of an increase in power with maybe about a 8-9% increase. That being said my coyote came factory with 430hp so by the end of the upgrade the car would of been upwards of about 500hp. 🤷♂️ My 2015 mustang GT with all its upgrades was dishing out around 460 to the crank with simple modifications like E-85 conversion, JLT intake, and obviously an E-85 tune. Now comparing my Escalade to my mustang is pretty unfair because of the sheer weight of my Escalade so racing them would of been an overly pointless exercise, but I will say that because of the torque and all wheel drive of my Escalade which at this point is pushing 500hp with the upgraded heads definitely would of at least 60ft my mustang from a dig race where it was, on top of the fact my mustang was a 6 speed manual so it was much harder to launch. Being an owner of both I’d have to say neither is better then the other, but if your trying to build either of them, build them to their strengths. Build the coyote for roll racing, it’s the best form of racing for the coyote platform in the form of drag racing because it is a top end motor. Build the LS for strictly dig racing as it’s the best option because of their close torque and horsepower numbers which makes this more one of the best for dig racing. 🤷♂️
For anyone interested, the chaparral cars and a few zl1 engines are on display in the petroleum muesem in midland tx. There are several cars on display and they still seem to be completely intact. Very cool display for anyone wondering where they went. My little boy loves to go sit in the display replica next to the real ones.
the TBI system was the best system Instill habe 2 of does in a 91 and a 94 dump truck both over 200k miles and almost no problema at all both original engines.. the Vortec injectors go out. and the Ls is sensitive to stuck lifters Oil pump and the pcv passeges get clogged its all in the valve covers then creats crank case pressure and make tje rear main leake. 350 with TBI 88 to 94 was amazing.
No complaints about the 41 year old 305 in my C10 truck. All original as is the 3 speed transmission. Quite remarkable to me for a vehicle that sits outside in all weather yards from saltwater.
You're the best content creator I have seen so far . Knowledgeable, great background graphics, organized, clear speaking ,good editing, and no umms ,ers ,circle backs ,etc. I like you so much that I subscribed.
I absolutely love the LT6. GM basically abandoned their entire history (and decades of experience, R&D, and tooling) to create what’s basically the polar opposite of their already excellent V8. They tried with the Northstar, did a great job with the early LT5 (although a complete sales failure) but the LT6 is just insanity from a corporate giant like GM. Revs to the moon, FOUR cams, bespoke materials, state-of-the-art engine management, fairly minor displacement (among GM V8s, at least) and a freaking warranty. The OHV design they’ve been using for the better part of a century is a truly excellent engine, but I think this N/A monster might just be GM’s Magnum Opus for performance engines before the big push to smaller, turbocharged performance and HEV/EV drivetrains. Will it be anywhere near as reliable as your average gen 1/2 small block, big block or LS/LT? Not a chance. But that’s not the point. This is GM’s high-water mark before the EV craze murders our ICE performance cars for good.
No offense but I would choose the LT5 dohc v8 over the lt6 any day because the LT5 wasn’t copying an other engine it was all new an dohc engine with an 350 sbc displacement it is unique rare and is awesome 😏 let’s be honest the LT6 is just Chevrolet copying fords home work on the voodoo from the Shelby gt350R it has very little to anything it shares in common with the 458 engine the only things they share in common is sound /crankshaft /dohc instead of that the LT6 is like GMs attempts at trying to beat the Ford modular engines specifically the coyote series of engines 😬😬 .do you really believe Ferrari the company that try’s to sue people for putting shoes next to their car on an ad and other stuff would let gm make an direct rip off of the 488 gtb that’s what an twin turbo LT6 ZR1 will be 😮
I don’t know how you had all that information in your head but it was very interesting I have a Chevy Silverado 2500 HD with the L8T it’s a horse a little thirsty but it can pull thanks for sharing I enjoy listening to it
I would like to know more about the 1970 LS7 454 rated at 522HP!! Why chevy made it, & why it wasn't installed in the chevelle or corvette as planned. Great videos, keep up the good work.
TBI poor air flow from injectors plugging throtle body a customer brought me a gizmo called Tornado which went under air filter and creates vortek air flow and I could not believe how it boosted power
My father had a few cars & trucks with V-8s.A 56 car with a 265, a 64 Pontiac with a 283 and a couple of pickups with 350s. Also him & I had the 350 Olds diesel, which is not worth talking about. I think the winner was the 283 , with the 350 a close second
Another reason for the higher HP ratings in the older cars was because they used to measure/state gross HP numbers (essentially an engine with no accessories under perfect conditions), they changed to net HP in the 70’s.
I know iy is not the main take from the video but you said the starter in the valley of the block is not something seen in the modern age. I think BMW and or AUDI have engines that are reversed so to speak with the exhaust coming out the top of the engine. These engines have the starter in the valley now instaed of the traditional placement due to space constraints. Hope this is helpful
Toyota/Lexus 4.3, 4.6, 4.7 all have starter under the intake i believe, as well as some nissan/infinitis i think. Probably a better location for starter life and ease of access to remove/replace in a cramped engine bay, especially when you consider how bad corrosion can get from age and road salt when mounted conventionally. But worse for testing, and can't bang on in an emergency to make it work.
Everyone always overlooks the 90s lt1/ lt4 - they were the predecessor to the ls1 and basically just as powerful and reliable (except for the optispark)
I prefer the Ford Coyote to the Chevy LS... but I'm not much of a wrench guy. I've just owned more Fords than Chevys and I love new Fords. I prefer the Ford 3.5 TT to the Ford Coyote though. The EcoBoost that's in the Ford GT makes 700 ponies in an engine that weighs 450 pounds. I think that's pretty awesome. And unlike the Hellcat motor, it can idle without starving itself of oil.
LS9. Basically the same as the LSA but all forged internals. Only came in the 2009 to 2013 ZR1 Corvettes in the US and made 638 hp in stock form. They are now available as crate engines from GM for around 21K.
The coyote is better technically speaking. More efficient, good technology. But the LS will always go down as the best swap engine. They are plentiful, make great power, and are crazy reliable. I’ve always said that GM V8s can run like shit longer than most other engines.
@@daleryan7882 Never heard that. But everything was running 14's in the quarter in Pure Stock. My GTO ran 14.15, my buddies Z28 was mid 12's. That's fast for a stock vehicle, in 1971.
The totally overlooked and bastard child of the Chevy small block world is the Gen II LT-1, produced from 1991-1997. Not bad for the time and the Caprice/Impala SS cars were the hot thing on the road.
LS over the coyote hands down, more reliable, better aftermarket support, easier to work on and mod, not to mention far and away more affordable to source
It you want to just slap a blower or turbo kit on your car coyote is the way to go. If you want to build a motor to be fast LS/LT is the way to go whether you go NA boost or nitrous. Personally I like the LS more and I hate how the coyote sound.
How was the 375 hp in the LT5 bad? You have to remember in 1972 we switched to net horsepower. 375 net is more powerful than 425 hp gross. Even the base Gen 2 LT1 with 300 hp was more powerful than the 370 hp LT-1 in the '70 Vette
small engines with big turbos will make great HP with big fuel usage - same all over performance means more fuel ! we just need a better fuel - i am sure there must be some organic juice we could squeeze into the petrol engines = i mean just put a match to orange skin and squeeze it = great fire ! = i have a subaru = oh cams hemi combustion boxer design and forced induction ! great.
Gasoline and diesel fuel ARE organic. They're hydrocarbon fuels, sometimes with some ethanol mix in with gas. They're 100% organic. For a given power output, a small turbo engine generally uses less fuel than a big NA one because thermal and frictional losses are lower.
The typical driver, on their daily commutes, might spend the vast majority of their time in the lower RPM ranges. This is the one of the few areas where OHV might be advantageous. And OHV engines probably have a lower center of gravity.
Ever heard of the lady that blew up a BUNCH of the 4 cam vettes? Every time she started one and drove it off the line she'd mash the gas pedal while starting them and send them immediately to redline! Can't make this stuff up
The ls6 name was reused because at the time muscle cars from the 60’s and 70’s saw their values peak at absurd levels ($2 million for a Hemi Cuda at one point). Boomers with lots of disposable income wanted to by the cars they had in high school or just when they were young, and Chevy decided to capitalize (those just entering the work force or those in college weren’t buying corvettes) by using the recognizable monicker ls6 for those they knew had the cash. Thankfully the engine lived up to its predecessor I have an 02 Z06 and it is by far the best performance buy on earth right now
Slight correction, the lt6 is the most powerful N/A production engine. There is the ZZ632 that came out around the same time as the C8 (unsure of exact time/date)
Sorry to say, but you forgot several small blocks. A few where iconic, like the 327. And the 400 donated it's forged steel crank to many 383 builds using nothing but GM parts. Let's not forget there were two different 350s as well/ Both two and four bolt mains. I still don't think one was much better than the other, but some engine builders looked for the four bolt.
The Ford Coyote engine is better in the sense that you can make more HP per liter than the LS and it responds much better to boost because it Revs higher in a shorter amount of time. That said I like the LS in the sense that it's a smaller profile and it only needs one cam vs 4 cams in the Coyote. Both engines are fabulous and most diehard lovers of either brand will tell you this. GO USA!!
Coyotes heads flow insane amounts of air which makes them pretty powerfull for a small cubic inch v8. But when it comes to power production ease of installation and versatility the ls engines dominate
The LK / LS engine is better than the Coyote. The GM engines are simpler and have shown their reliability and low cost. Try putting 7.0L in a Coyote engine? It can be done in the LS and the Dodge Gen lll HEMI.
@@aimxdy8680 SBE is irrelevant to me cause I want to touch the motor the least amount possible, the less work I have to do to go pretty quick the happier I am. Coyote doesn’t need cams, head work, or anything involving opening the engine to runs 8-9 seconds or decent 60-130, LS/LT does and most LS stuff is swaps which is more I don’t wanna do if I don’t have to.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN LT6 Z28 CAMARO !!!! THEY NEED TO MASS PRODUCE THESE ENGINES PLEASE GM !!!!! ALSO WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CROSSPLANE CRANK LT6 FOR THE CAMARO Z28 VERSION AND HELL THROW IT INTO ANYTHING ELSE, WE WILL TAKE IT !!
90s small blocks smashed the 60s small blocks. Gross and net horsepower give drastically different numbers. 1992 LT1 285 net horsepower, but 365 gross horsepower.
What's your top 5 Chevy engine list? Let's hear it below.
Ls7, ls6, ls1,ls3
@powcod 74 Besides the improvements in intake design and lack of egr on the LS6, it is near identical to the LS1. Therefore, one can only assume the LS6 you've referenced must be the 11.25:1, solid lifter, 450hp, 454³" big block available 1970 only. You, sir, have exquisite taste.
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@@jasonstinson1767 I would say the 454 was the slowest, boat anchor excuse for the big blocks that Chevy made. The LS6 big block would be on the bottom of the list. Probably the worst engine Chevy put into a car or truck. Doggy and a huge gas guzzler.
@@lars277 I think the 502 would argue that
the 5.3 the most infamous motor chevy has produced for being swapped into everything and boosted to the moon should of had a spot on here just for its popularity.
Doughnuts and Cannabis are popular in the U.S. also, doesn't mean people should constantly consume them as well.
I'd pick a (Bullet Race Engineering ua-cam.com/video/m53RjI6xFaE/v-deo.html) 2jz or and RB or DETT or a Toyota/Nissan V8 ... over anything America has produced, any day!!
@@utubecomment21 why? Do you prefer having a worse engine?
I agree totally
More than likely he was focusing on how they came from the factory, and the 5.3 was just a bread and butter truck engine. It gets commonly swapped because it's cheap but shares parts with the LS series. So parts are readily available, and has relatively good cylinder heads. Meaning it's a cam away from decent power, but it's nothing special.
@@samuelriester1419 yes cheap isn't better- especially the lame 5,3 gaMcan in the "watch me rust " Silverado
Chevy 350 is the best engine of all time good power reliable you could rebuild it overnight and very inexpensive to work on great sound there’s just nothing that compares to it
I missed my 72 Olds with the 350 big block Rocket. It purr like a kitten. And sound cool when you punch it down.that never gave me a problem. Very reliable motor. Never see those days again
With stand alone distributor, easy for a swap
Agreed. Love my 350 😊
350 is really good, but what about 454
72 Camaro SS 350 no power steering no a c only fan belt very fast and reliable. .
I actually prefer the high torque at low RPM of a push-rod engine over the high revving OHC engines.
Same here. High RPM engines feel weak in a heavy car, and I don't like a weak-feeling engine.
Yeah, but modern VVT DOHC have high torque even at low rpm...
@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter yes it is an improvement in power and torque throughout the rpm range but in my opinion its not worth the added complexity. Long timing belts or chains that stretch, multiple sensors that can fail as well as the mechanisms that advance or retard the cams, very wide cylinder heads etc.
The throttle body 5.7 was the most reliable gas engine ever built and developed for a vehicle.
The tbi 350 is definitely my favorite v8. But I also like the vortecs, spider injection sucks but if you upgrade the injectors, it's a great engine.
Bull Shit!
I have one, very easy to work on and reliable. I have 300,000 miles on it. Only the gas mileage sucks
I had the 5.0L version (L03) in a B car. With 2.73 rear end and a 4L60E, I got over 30 highway miles a gallon routinely. Not a powerful engine, but reliable and it ran well enough.
Ford 300 6 is the best engine ever built
I have alot of different old school small blocks, most of them modified over 500hp but my favorite is still my L79 327 small block 350hp version in my 66 Nova. Awesome little engine
"little"
@@mrwhips3623 little in comparison to my other Engines yes.
My favorite 66 or 67 shoebox chevy , next to 67 GTO
L79 327 a.k.a. the 'Hemi Killer'.
Me too love my L79 prostreet 65 Acadian Canso had it 50 years now Sweet
The smallest smallblock V8 wasn't the the 265, but the 262.
In the monza
My brother had one. 1977
265 was the first size in that set up
Very true. I remember that one, but I think it only lasted 2 years.
In 1995 the LS1 engine was tested by GM for reliability and durability in a 1994 Buick Roadmaster in Michigan driven back and forth to work everyday 60 miles round trip 5 days a week for 9 months by a GM engineer to test it in the cold winter through summer before it made it into production looking for potential problems
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I'd pick a (Bullet Race Engineering ua-cam.com/video/m53RjI6xFaE/v-deo.html) 2jz or and RB or DETT or a Toyota/Nissan V8 ... over anything America has produced, any day!!
For me, it's the LS. While the Coyote can make nutso power and torque, it's still a small inch, high strung screamer that is overly complex, large for its weight, and refuses to make power and torque down low after a hop up.
The LS is solid, reliable, can make nutso power too. But it's arcaic and crude. Can also be heavy for it's small physical size, eat lifters..... eh, it's a point of preference.
I got an 02 express 1500 with the 5.7l. I was looking in the service book and it looks like it was available with a 454. I'm still dumbfounded! I just can't imagine that much power!
It would have only been available on 2500 & 3500 Van's as it was in Trucks. The 10 bolt 8½" ring gear differential's input torque rating (as well as the 4L60E) wouldn't withstand Big Block torque.
@@jasonstinson1767 these 454 engines made very good low-end torque idle-3500rpm for truck applications pulling a heavy load the torque on these engines drop like a brick off a cliff above 4000rpm and are basically a turd in a performance application unless modified stock it made 230 horsepower at a extremely weak 3600rpm 385 foot pounds of torque at 1600rpm and a extremely weak 7.9:1 compression ratio for example of how weak this 454 is my 2004 Buick LeSabre with a 3800 V6 engine makes 205 horsepower and definitely not performance orientated so a 231 cubic in engine vs a 454 cubic inch engine a difference in 223 cubic inches and it makes only 25 horsepower more is extremely sad but this 454 is good for towing heavy loads they are definitely no performance powerhouse unless they are modified with a compression ratio of 10.1 or more and a camshaft that pulls strongly to 6000+rpm that makes at least 440+ horsepower GM should be ashamed to produce a 454 engine with 230 horsepower anything under 350 horsepower is a complete embarrassment even for a stock 454
@Gloria Maletta yep couldn't agree more. The only replacement for displacement all things equal is RPM. With the exception of early Gen lll big blocks with the aforementioned 10:1 compression and rectangle port heads, also a few oval port, stock big blocks are an expensive way to burn fuel for marginal gains in performance. All things being equal (valve lift and duration, head flow and rpm range as relative to displacement) they can make great power but in a field like that any engine from any manufacturer will perform nearly identical all variables being equivalent. I do know that the cheapest way to make "reliable" power is likely a worked over SBC. A LS Gen 4 with a cheap turbo or nitrous may be the cheapest power to be found from what I've seen. Thank you for the reply. Very concise and based on reality likely from experience.
The new heavy duty vans come with the iron block 6.6L. 401 SAE net HP on 87 octane.
@@dadgarage7966 it has a longer stroke crankshaft of 3.86 vs the 3.62 boosting torque and it comes in 500rpm earlier for towing
Kudo's pal. This is a heap of information at a speedway pace. I'm impressed. You talk very fast, which I appreciate. Just when you think that you know it all, some young fellow shows his stuff. I just subscribed.
I was kind of hoping you would mention my first Chevy V-8, a '60 Impala with a 348 with a cam. It was faster than a stock 289 Mustang. It went through transmissions and rear ends, every month it seems like. I remember swapping pilot shafts at 2AM, learning how to apply needle bearings to the whatever you call the part of the transmission that you swap the pilot shaft onto. This was 1968, so I tend to blend nomenclature. Anyway, I thoroughly appreciated your effort here. I'm looking forward to more.
Please do a review of the Oldsmobile Aurora Indianapolis engine. This engine was the most winning engine at the 500 for several years. And very underrated in the Aurora car. A lot of engineering went into this engine. It should not be lost to history.
It was the only engine Tony George allowed for that time.
The new ones are nice, but i really don't care for the way they look. I guess i'd have to say, my Favorite is the old school 400 small block.
The LS7 was a great design, but LS7 and super reliable don't go together as they seem to like dropping valves most of the time and GM won't warranty it. I agree the LS and later LT engines are amazing designs and it's cool to see GM going out with a bang before we're forced to go EV. My favorite was the 327 L79 for small block and the L88 427 for the big block. Good video though, carry on....
I agree about the LS7. Wish GM would address the head guide issue, but got OEM worked over Lingenfelter's on mine. Hope this makes this engine reliable in my Z, as I really enjoy the car.
Vortec engines did not start from LS’s. They started the gen before with 350’s still. They were different than the TBI engines and controlled differently.
The thing about ‘Vortec’ is that it’s just a name. There is no single type of 😢Vortec engine, as this name was applied to such diverse engines as the Gen I, Gen III+, as well as the DOHC Atlas engine. Vortec is a marketing term. It does not represent any specific design.
So I currently own an 06 Cadillac Escalade with the 6.0L LS, I also used to own a 2015 mustang GT with the 5.0L coyote. As far as which is better it simply depends on what your trying to use them for. The coyote is a high reving dual over head cam motor with not much low end torque but makes high horse power numbers. The LS is an over head valve motor built specifically for drag racing so it has really good torque and horsepower numbers.
Very rarely have I ever seen an LS dish out way more torque then horsepower as they tend to stay pretty close together for the LS platform which actually makes the motor the best when it comes to 1/4 and even 1/2 mile runs at your local drag strip, I mean there was a reason people LS swapped their fox bodies for so long and still do today. Light body with a motor that puts out easy cheap and reliable horsepower and torque build specifically for drag racing.
But that age old saying of “wanna make a ford faster… LS swap it” in my opinion has just been taken out of the equation, because the 5.0L coyote has proven to be one of the most powerful platforms to date on the streets today. Their top end is practically unbeatable, stock for stock and even mod for mod the coyote out runs the LS platform all day long.
But even still I wouldn’t put one over the other, both platforms have proven themselves as reliable power houses so it really just comes down to which is cheaper to build which would be the LS. The stage two texas speed cam upgrade for my 6.0L LS in my Escalade all together cost me no more then $1,100 with I’d say a good 12 to 13% increase in power pushing my 6.0L from a factory 365hp to about 470hp. My coyote on the other hand would of been well over 3 to 4K dollars by the end of the upgrade and unless I went super aggressive with the cams it really wouldn’t of shown as much of an increase in power with maybe about a 8-9% increase. That being said my coyote came factory with 430hp so by the end of the upgrade the car would of been upwards of about 500hp. 🤷♂️
My 2015 mustang GT with all its upgrades was dishing out around 460 to the crank with simple modifications like E-85 conversion, JLT intake, and obviously an E-85 tune. Now comparing my Escalade to my mustang is pretty unfair because of the sheer weight of my Escalade so racing them would of been an overly pointless exercise, but I will say that because of the torque and all wheel drive of my Escalade which at this point is pushing 500hp with the upgraded heads definitely would of at least 60ft my mustang from a dig race where it was, on top of the fact my mustang was a 6 speed manual so it was much harder to launch.
Being an owner of both I’d have to say neither is better then the other, but if your trying to build either of them, build them to their strengths. Build the coyote for roll racing, it’s the best form of racing for the coyote platform in the form of drag racing because it is a top end motor. Build the LS for strictly dig racing as it’s the best option because of their close torque and horsepower numbers which makes this more one of the best for dig racing. 🤷♂️
For anyone interested, the chaparral cars and a few zl1 engines are on display in the petroleum muesem in midland tx. There are several cars on display and they still seem to be completely intact. Very cool display for anyone wondering where they went. My little boy loves to go sit in the display replica next to the real ones.
Ford Coyote Engine! I have a F 150 that has over 370 k and still goes to work every single day.
I put more than that on a '88 350
I work for gm and took the class on the LT6 I can’t wait to work on one
the TBI system was the best system Instill habe 2 of does in a 91 and a 94 dump truck both over 200k miles and almost no problema at all both original engines.. the Vortec injectors go out. and the Ls is sensitive to stuck lifters Oil pump and the pcv passeges get clogged its all in the valve covers then creats crank case pressure and make tje rear main leake. 350 with TBI 88 to 94 was amazing.
You young guys can keep the LS. I'll take the Gen 1 SBC and the Mk IV Big Block.
No complaints about the 41 year old 305 in my C10 truck. All original as is the 3 speed transmission. Quite remarkable to me for a vehicle that sits outside in all weather yards from saltwater.
You're the best content creator I have seen so far .
Knowledgeable, great background graphics, organized, clear speaking ,good editing, and no umms ,ers ,circle backs ,etc.
I like you so much that I subscribed.
I absolutely love the LT6. GM basically abandoned their entire history (and decades of experience, R&D, and tooling) to create what’s basically the polar opposite of their already excellent V8. They tried with the Northstar, did a great job with the early LT5 (although a complete sales failure) but the LT6 is just insanity from a corporate giant like GM. Revs to the moon, FOUR cams, bespoke materials, state-of-the-art engine management, fairly minor displacement (among GM V8s, at least) and a freaking warranty. The OHV design they’ve been using for the better part of a century is a truly excellent engine, but I think this N/A monster might just be GM’s Magnum Opus for performance engines before the big push to smaller, turbocharged performance and HEV/EV drivetrains. Will it be anywhere near as reliable as your average gen 1/2 small block, big block or LS/LT? Not a chance. But that’s not the point. This is GM’s high-water mark before the EV craze murders our ICE performance cars for good.
No offense but I would choose the LT5 dohc v8 over the lt6 any day because the LT5 wasn’t copying an other engine it was all new an dohc engine with an 350 sbc displacement it is unique rare and is awesome 😏 let’s be honest the LT6 is just Chevrolet copying fords home work on the voodoo from the Shelby gt350R it has very little to anything it shares in common with the 458 engine the only things they share in common is sound /crankshaft /dohc instead of that the LT6 is like GMs attempts at trying to beat the Ford modular engines specifically the coyote series of engines 😬😬 .do you really believe Ferrari the company that try’s to sue people for putting shoes next to their car on an ad and other stuff would let gm make an direct rip off of the 488 gtb that’s what an twin turbo LT6 ZR1 will be 😮
@@xx_ironman77_xx1 Very difficult to follow anything you said, with it being written in one endless sentence.
What about the W Block 348/409 .An engine worthy of a song from the Beach Boys is surely worth a casual mention
Agreed! An awesome engine!
Really enjoyed this episode!!! 👍
Please 🙏 keep up the great work!!! ✌️😎
But can you tell me what would the correct ignition timing be on a 55 Bel Air Chevrolet with the 327 cubic inch engine and a 4 barrel carburetor?
Lol...these two yutes.
Ayyye! You know Vinnie?
They didn't make that motor then but it b 8°btc
It was 4btd iff my old memories don't fail me
I don’t know how you had all that information in your head but it was very interesting I have a Chevy Silverado 2500 HD with the L8T it’s a horse a little thirsty but it can pull thanks for sharing I enjoy listening to it
If you punctuated your comment it would be much easier to understand. Doesnt take that much more effort.
@@giggiddy Happy to see the grammar Nazi is on duty today! I had absolutely no trouble understanding the comment without punctuation.
I would like to know more about the 1970 LS7 454 rated at 522HP!! Why chevy made it, & why it wasn't installed in the chevelle or corvette as planned.
Great videos, keep up the good work.
What about 348-409-427 W motor ?
My favorite V-8 Chevy is
the 1961 Corvette 315 hp 283 cu in Fuel Injected !
But I like them all !
18:10 me being the jdm guy thought the same words you said 😂 and if u rlly want to see our 2.0L do that the K20a2 accepts the challenge lol
350 TBI. Not crazy power but super reliable and simple
But still decent in power and easy to modify for a bit more power. Cheap and reliable.
180 hp I wouldn’t call that decent power by todays standards, but they were super reliable
@@rikk7263
Try 210. 190 for the 2500/3500s. The same era TPI Corvette made 250.
@@dadgarage7966 still unimpressive numbers
TBI poor air flow from injectors plugging throtle body a customer brought me a gizmo called Tornado which went under air filter and creates vortek air flow and I could not believe how it boosted power
My father had a few cars & trucks with V-8s.A 56 car with a 265, a 64 Pontiac with a 283 and a couple of pickups with 350s. Also him & I had the 350 Olds diesel, which is not worth talking about. I think the winner was the 283 , with the 350 a close second
Love the Big Blocks!!!
Another reason for the higher HP ratings in the older cars was because they used to measure/state gross HP numbers (essentially an engine with no accessories under perfect conditions), they changed to net HP in the 70’s.
I hope he meant to say iron cylinder liners not aluminum?????
You missed the most important part the 15 deg heads. On the ls vs 23 on the SBC p
I know iy is not the main take from the video but you said the starter in the valley of the block is not something seen in the modern age. I think BMW and or AUDI have engines that are reversed so to speak with the exhaust coming out the top of the engine. These engines have the starter in the valley now instaed of the traditional placement due to space constraints. Hope this is helpful
Toyota/Lexus 4.3, 4.6, 4.7 all have starter under the intake i believe, as well as some nissan/infinitis i think. Probably a better location for starter life and ease of access to remove/replace in a cramped engine bay, especially when you consider how bad corrosion can get from age and road salt when mounted conventionally. But worse for testing, and can't bang on in an emergency to make it work.
Everyone always overlooks the 90s lt1/ lt4 - they were the predecessor to the ls1 and basically just as powerful and reliable (except for the optispark)
Billy's List: 1. l71 427, 2. 350 LT-1-4V, 3. 350 LT1-EFI, 4. 379 LS9, 5. 427 LS7.👍🔧🛠️
I prefer the Ford Coyote to the Chevy LS... but I'm not much of a wrench guy. I've just owned more Fords than Chevys and I love new Fords. I prefer the Ford 3.5 TT to the Ford Coyote though. The EcoBoost that's in the Ford GT makes 700 ponies in an engine that weighs 450 pounds. I think that's pretty awesome. And unlike the Hellcat motor, it can idle without starving itself of oil.
Sadly every ecoboost sounds like hot poo, impressive little engines tho.
I was going to tease you because it is Chevy Caprice not Chevy Capri but it is a very well put together video you did there
Ford Caprice 😊
LS9. Basically the same as the LSA but all forged internals. Only came in the 2009 to 2013 ZR1 Corvettes in the US and made 638 hp in stock form. They are now available as crate engines from GM for around 21K.
I used to like hot rods, now I like practicality and think hot rods r a waste of money. With age comes wisdom.
The Chevy 307 CID Oil Drinker and Cam Eater!
The C4 ZR1 LT5 engine has aluminum cylinder liners?
The coyote is better technically speaking. More efficient, good technology. But the LS will always go down as the best swap engine. They are plentiful, make great power, and are crazy reliable. I’ve always said that GM V8s can run like shit longer than most other engines.
The 6.2 liter V-8 ecotec engine employing 420HP and 460LBFT of torque is my favorite
Well done brother. But I'm biased as I like all your videos.
Good video I have the LT1 2015 Vette 54000 miles and it's a runner
The best is the 302 SB. 4" bore 3" stroke. Buddy had one in 68 Z28. He shifted at 7000 all day. And the best sound stock exhaust. Good Old Days.🤠
The 302 sb was named the zapper. I would love to hear the story behind that
@@daleryan7882 Never heard that. But everything was running 14's in the quarter in Pure Stock. My GTO ran 14.15, my buddies Z28 was mid 12's. That's fast for a stock vehicle, in 1971.
@@crevnoid hmmm, maybe the nick name ' 302 zapper' was used in Canada only ??
@@crevnoid 14.15 is still fast today. People dont relise how quick that really is
The totally overlooked and bastard child of the Chevy small block world is the Gen II LT-1, produced from 1991-1997.
Not bad for the time and the Caprice/Impala SS cars were the hot thing on the road.
Everything old school is better than now! Because it was a hundred percent American made not the new engines today!
LS over the coyote hands down, more reliable, better aftermarket support, easier to work on and mod, not to mention far and away more affordable to source
It you want to just slap a blower or turbo kit on your car coyote is the way to go. If you want to build a motor to be fast LS/LT is the way to go whether you go NA boost or nitrous. Personally I like the LS more and I hate how the coyote sound.
How was the 375 hp in the LT5 bad? You have to remember in 1972 we switched to net horsepower. 375 net is more powerful than 425 hp gross. Even the base Gen 2 LT1 with 300 hp was more powerful than the 370 hp LT-1 in the '70 Vette
small engines with big turbos will make great HP with big fuel usage - same all over performance means more fuel ! we just need a better fuel - i am sure there must be some organic juice we could squeeze into the petrol engines = i mean just put a match to orange skin and squeeze it = great fire ! = i have a subaru = oh cams hemi combustion boxer design and forced induction ! great.
Gasoline and diesel fuel ARE organic. They're hydrocarbon fuels, sometimes with some ethanol mix in with gas. They're 100% organic.
For a given power output, a small turbo engine generally uses less fuel than a big NA one because thermal and frictional losses are lower.
The typical driver, on their daily commutes, might spend the vast majority of their time in the lower RPM ranges. This is the one of the few areas where OHV might be advantageous. And OHV engines probably have a lower center of gravity.
Ever heard of the lady that blew up a BUNCH of the 4 cam vettes? Every time she started one and drove it off the line she'd mash the gas pedal while starting them and send them immediately to redline! Can't make this stuff up
i’d be cool to swap a LT6 into a fox body or something similar
Drag racers do it regularly. I saw the editor of Mustang Magazine complain about it once.
Dam it's crazy to see from were Gm started to were it's at today 😯😯😯
Kinda surprised that the 8.1 wasnt on the list, has ls cathedral intake ports and the sheer amount of tq from the get go.
The ls6 name was reused because at the time muscle cars from the 60’s and 70’s saw their values peak at absurd levels ($2 million for a Hemi Cuda at one point). Boomers with lots of disposable income wanted to by the cars they had in high school or just when they were young, and Chevy decided to capitalize (those just entering the work force or those in college weren’t buying corvettes) by using the recognizable monicker ls6 for those they knew had the cash. Thankfully the engine lived up to its predecessor I have an 02 Z06 and it is by far the best performance buy on earth right now
Is anybody know if you could get a 302 Z28 crate motor?
Try speedway
Most people think the hp ratings were low, that’s not true, they just quoted the hp at an rpm less than the one where max hp occurred.
Also don't forget the chevy 409 as well.
Voted Best boat anchor, by legendary Smokey Yunik.
But they were Cool!
@@dionrau5580 They sure we're brother, not only the 409s powered the 61-65 Impala SS's but they also powered the 61-65 Pontiac Parisiennes as well.
Slight correction, the lt6 is the most powerful N/A production engine. There is the ZZ632 that came out around the same time as the C8 (unsure of exact time/date)
Crate engine only 1008 hp NA sweet
Informative and educational, with the exception of the sooking bout being our done by milk and juice.
Brilliant work
Chevy 572 big block should have been mentioned. Maybe in the future?
I bet those puppies burn fuel like a space shuttle
Anyone thinks an dohc hemi V8 with an real hemisphere combustion chamber would out preform the coyote and the LT6 😳
You missed the So fine 409!!
What about the small block 400
cts v does not have an LS1. it is an LSA, some similarities but not the same power plant.
Gen 1 CTSV has an LS6
SYNTHETIC OIL CHANGES IS WHAT MAKES THE DEFENSE.
Sorry to say, but you forgot several small blocks. A few where iconic, like the 327. And the 400 donated it's forged steel crank to many 383 builds using nothing but GM parts. Let's not forget there were two different 350s as well/ Both two and four bolt mains. I still don't think one was much better than the other, but some engine builders looked for the four bolt.
Ford Coyote beats the GM LS hands down. You yourself said in another video that cam in block engines develop less HP per liter than an OHC engine.
@@mjflores4170 Ha!
Efficiency, Power, Reliability = *GenV LT1* (WITHOUT AFM/Displacement on demand).
The Ford Coyote engine is better in the sense that you can make more HP per liter than the LS and it responds much better to boost because it Revs higher in a shorter amount of time. That said I like the LS in the sense that it's a smaller profile and it only needs one cam vs 4 cams in the Coyote. Both engines are fabulous and most diehard lovers of either brand will tell you this. GO USA!!
Whic onenis the best between the Ford 5.0 and this corvette engine
Coyotes heads flow insane amounts of air which makes them pretty powerfull for a small cubic inch v8. But when it comes to power production ease of installation and versatility the ls engines dominate
Hey can you give us some insight on the Cummins n14 order its problems order its advantages
LS imo because you can spank just about anything on the road for one hell of a price making tons of power with a single cam engine keeping it simple
GM made lotus redesign the LT1 because it didn’t have the same bore spacing as the standard small block…. 🙄 killing the power output
Well i had to stop with the LS6 story... You missed the LS7, it was the 454 version of the ZL1.
They put the LS7 engine in the Holden Commodore before GM closed the down 2018
The LS, any of them
The Gen 2 small block ( 92-96 ) LT1/LT4
The L88 big block ( mad underrated )
The LS7 454
The 327/365 hp small block
What about that 90s TDI he described or the M40 automatic transmission
@@jasonstinson1767 I'll play your game.....
The Audi twin turbo V8 and V10 diesels
The GM Powerglide
L98 TPI. Thats my favorite. 👍
LS is a 90s design that is still whooping as* and coyote is the ALL new and very well engineered
Starter in the valve body is very common Toyota Northstar
LS wins on size, cost, packaging and simplicity over the Coyote.....hands down!
And I'm a MOPAR guy.
chevy sells a 632 crate engine ,and GM built a 638 CI engine for truck use in the 60-70
The LK / LS engine is better than the Coyote. The GM engines are simpler and have shown their reliability and low cost. Try putting 7.0L in a Coyote engine? It can be done in the LS and the Dodge Gen lll HEMI.
Try going 7’s with a bone stock LS? It’s been done in a Coyote. LS is great for cheap power but motor vs motor the coyote is better.
@@169abrThat’s because LS has way milder cams lmao, Fastest Stock bottom end Coyote runs a 7.8 by Aldo, Guess what LS is running? 7.1 seconds lmao.
@@aimxdy8680 SBE is irrelevant to me cause I want to touch the motor the least amount possible, the less work I have to do to go pretty quick the happier I am. Coyote doesn’t need cams, head work, or anything involving opening the engine to runs 8-9 seconds or decent 60-130, LS/LT does and most LS stuff is swaps which is more I don’t wanna do if I don’t have to.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN LT6 Z28 CAMARO !!!! THEY NEED TO MASS PRODUCE THESE ENGINES PLEASE GM !!!!! ALSO WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CROSSPLANE CRANK LT6 FOR THE CAMARO Z28 VERSION AND HELL THROW IT INTO ANYTHING ELSE, WE WILL TAKE IT !!
there has already been a couple of competitions between the two motors, LS came out on top every time.
You missed the 5.4 327 great engine
90s small blocks smashed the 60s small blocks. Gross and net horsepower give drastically different numbers. 1992 LT1 285 net horsepower, but 365 gross horsepower.
300 net
That lt5 with the right tuner could really do some damage
Love the coyote engine
Not bad if you can't get a LS ! Lol 😆
Small block 350 and big block 454 are king in terms of power and longevity
Uummm,he forgot a lot of small block Chevy engines.